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Equal pay?
Hillary is attempting to run her campaign with one of her themes being "equal pay for women."
I have tried, but I cannot find an area, other than sports that pays women less than men for the same job. Is that what she is referring to? If she is attempting a claim that women don't get the same jobs, but want the same wages, then I believe she is barking up the wrong tree. She does bark you know. I have read where women only receive about 79 cents on a dollar that men make, but they don't suggest that the women have the same jobs. Does a female doctor make less than a male doctor? Does a female lawyer make less than a male lawyer? Does a female Captain in the military make less than a male? Maybe a female teacher makes less than a male teacher? If the female does not have the same job, then I hardly see how she deserves the same pay. A male secretary does not make as much as female executive. A male nurse does not make as much as a female doctor. Articles suggest that there is a general difference in income, male versus female. I wonder who's fault that would be. I believe that Hillary is pandering for the female vote with the only ammo available, wage inequity. Her party would be better off trying to work on minority unemployment figures. Since Obama, the black unemployment has risen, not lowered. She needs to concentrate on getting families off of food stamps. Since Obama, we have a record high of those on food stamps. Bernie is pandering to the young by promising them something he can't give them, FREE college. And it seems to be working for him. If the deck wasn't so stacked against him by the DNC, then he would be more competition for Hillary. But, even though she is just barely beating him with the popular vote, she has bought enough Super Delegates to carry her to the nomination. It's a done deal. Bernie is just to make her look like she worked for it. Window dressing. |
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They hardly ever do an "equal" job. If the entire job involves sitting at a desk, they do equal jobs. Anything else, hardly equal.
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So, other than sports, there is no validity to the statement that females do not get equal pay for equal positions. The whole idea that Hillary is attempting to exploit is noting more than a sham. That's like saying, high school graduates do not get paid equally with college grads. Or, the dog catcher doesn't get paid as much as a police officer. Hillary is a con artist.
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Here's a Department of Labor Video that was made for children, I guess.
Equal Pay | United States Department of Labor |
Well I will give you the short answer first. Predominately in divorces women always have the edge over men. In death women outlive men and thus here are a lot of rich widows out there.:D
I spent a good part of my career dealing with employee compensation and benefits. This entailed conferencing with employers from all industry in a community in order to understand prevailing market values for executive, professional managerial and clerical . Performance evaluations, starting salaries, salary schedules, promotions retention of employees reducing turnover and more require equality. The differences come in the career choices people make, balancing their work life vis a vis their personal life, their competitiveness, etc. For public/privates union shops its easier because it is all fixed by contract. People will never learn. Politicians intentionally create controversy and division because it draws people to them (collectives) (herds). that's what presidential candidates do, that 's what race baiting leaders do that, that's what unions do, etc. Class distinctions, race distinctions, religious distinctions, equal pay, income redistributions, the 1% the 99%, the fat cats war on women............ These are the type of people that like nanny government TOO MANY AMERICAN HAVE LOST OR NEVER ACHIEVED THEIR INDIVIDUAL IDENTITY. Personal Best Regards: |
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Actually, the difference between the MEDIAN pay rate is more like 19% today. It is rare for two individuals of the opposite sex doing the same job for the same employer to have different pay scales, but that doesn't mean it doesn't still occur. Because men are not usually the primary caregivers, they can work longer hours and aren't forced to put their careers on hold as much as women. This is where the majority of the disparity comes from today and, being female and having a daughter, I'd like to see something worked out.
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So, the way I see it, there is no disparity between male and female wages other than in sports. Women feel that they deserve breaks because they have to take off to have babies, even though that is their choice, not the employers. When I say breaks, I mean they feel that by having a baby, they believe that they should continue to get the same increases in pay and positioning as anyone that has not missed months off for having a baby. Other than that, what is the big deal? If females do not wish to take the high risk or high stress jobs of men, then why do they feel they deserve to get paid more than their employer is willing to pay them? After all, a nurse should not get paid as much as a doctor. A secretary should not expect to get paid as much as the executive. Male or female, the position and job dictates, not the gender. The government has been giving paternity leave for some time. If I was a female, I believe I would object to that. After all, who had to endure the long months of discomfort and the body stress of producing another life form? Not the male. But, that is just my opinion and has nothing to do with the subject.
So, all the screaming about equality is just a Hillary sham to get more female votes. That seems rather sexist, doesn't it? |
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The theme of the equal pay for women is suppose to be equal pay for equal jobs. There are hardly any jobs that don't pay the same for male versus female workers. Entertainment is probably the only sector that comes to mind. Just because they take an average pay for the gender population, does not mean that all those women had the same job as men. They didn't. They chose to take lower paying jobs for differing reasons, whether it was more convenient for the family or because of their lack of skill set. The only disparity today is in the mind of those that wish to exploit the non-issue. |
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Lilly Ledbetter vs Goodyear Tire and Rubber: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/06pdf/05-1074.pdf Every employer, for which I have worked, required me to never discuss my pay rate with another employee. This makes it quite difficult to find out if men are making more than women in the same level or band. |
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You can advance in the band based on performance and years of experience. These factors will affect the rate of pay to different people. But if the title, experience and performance is the same men and women have to be equal. |
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The point is that there is really no current evidence that women are being discriminated upon when it comes to men and women in the same job positions. If there is any evidence, it is rare. So, friend it appears that if you are willing to believe Hillary without any evidence that she is telling the truth, then you probably also believe that she is not guilty of mishandling classified information, or using her private unsecured computer to transmit classified information. You probably also believe that the Clintons did not steal go property when they left the White House, even though they were forced to pay the gov back thousands of dollars. And you probably don't believe that she lied to the families of the victims of Benghazi. So, I bet your use of "head in the sand" is ironic, considering. |
The government is not a union. Why does everyone insist that the gov regulate every aspect of private business. They can't even run their own business (Gov.) properly. I have seen female owned businesses discriminate against men by only hiring women. I have seen minority owned businesses only hire minorities. We only have a free country if the gov allows Freedom. Hillary is exploiting an old problem, thinking that women are stupid enough to believe her and support her. She has a very low opinion of women, but after the exploits of her husband, I can understand why and almost sympathize.
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If the government didn't force us, they'd be sitting on the side lines, unable to compete. Women would be home raising their own children instead of passing that job onto some 3rd world immigrant. Men could go back to doing what they do best, taking care of their family. Leveling the playing field would be a good thing. |
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"Predominately in divorces women always have the edge over men. In death women outlive men and thus here are a lot of rich widows out there.:D" What does this have to do with wages, if you were the average department of human resources person we are in trouble with that type of thinking. |
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Do you ever read your post and see how stupid your examples are? |
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'A federal law, the Equal Pay Act (EPA), requires employers to pay men and women equally for doing the same work -- equal pay for equal work. The Equal Pay Act was passed in 1963 as an amendment to the Fair Labor Standards Act and can be found at 29 U.S.C. § 206." If what you say is true, why do we need this law. Also, I am not your friend, but its okay for trump and cruz to lie and lie. If you are going to accuse one don't be a hypocrite. Your a typical repub babbler, but what can you expect from the minority party, lie and then swear to it. |
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Before the feminist supporters jump in I believe the same goes for ANYBODY in equal jobs....I just followed suit in the gender nature of the posts. The person who who the better in the same job should and will get better ratings and better ratings will result in more of a pay increase, thus leading to different people in the same job getting different rates of pay. If there is an issue that a female should get the same because of being female........not on my watch they would not!! |
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Men and women are different. VERY different. We shouldn't be putting square pegs into round holes. Some things men are better at, some things women are better. Use those differences as nature intended, don't think we're going to win the fight against nature. Women should raise their children as best they can. Men should provide the family support. It's worked for thousands of years, our way has NOT been working. The amount of people receiving food stamps, 50 million (mostly women/children), would make a soup line 9,500 miles long. That's 3 times across the US. So, lets go back to the traditional family and traditional roles. |
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Other than sports, can you give me an example of women getting paid less than men for the same work? Hillary is jut attempting to provoke because she has no platform to run on other than some form of perceived equal rights. |
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I wonder what she would say on current issues? We do know that she said she would continue Obama's failed policies. I guess that means that she would continue the illegal Executive Order policy, if she didn't get her way. Just like Obumbag. Think she would continue his policy of "leading from behind?" I can understand Obumbie getting behind it, since he is the first "Gay President." Of course, Chillary may very well be our first transgender president, if she doesn't go to jail before the election.
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This should do the trick.....just filed today.
USWNT Files Lawsuit Against U.S. Soccer In Fight For Equal Pay |
The stupidity of you people is just beyond imagining. And you all are so clueless. Just totally hard to believe.
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If you had followed the link you would know that Women's soccer made 20 MILLON dollars more than that sucky team we sent to Brazil. Does it make you feel more MANLY when you bash women? Or is it only those little blue pills you need! |
I remember when the girls were winning the world soccer cup. At the time, the highest american player was making $100k. Some girls, women, the best in the world are making $35kin America.
I feel sorry for the girls being in this position and going to the Olympics. I hope they win the case and don't need to make personal sacrifices to get the money they deserve now. They are getting old. The men play on grass and they make the women play on astroturf. Their career could end in an instant. These women are the role models you want for your girls. Why is this even an issue? |
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