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bobfl 12-12-2008 11:08 PM

How often to cut?
 
My zoysia grass has pretty much stopped growing now. My question is how often does it need cutting in the Summer? One lawn service gave one price for twice a month cutting and another for once a week. Since we are snowbirds what do you think is correct?

chuckinca 12-13-2008 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bobfl (Post 177453)
My zoysia grass has pretty much stopped growing now. My question is how often does it need cutting in the Summer? One lawn service gave one price for twice a month cutting and another for once a week. Since we are snowbirds what do you think is correct?


Twice a month should be less money than once a week, and I don't think it would get too unsightly - save the bread.

l2ridehd 12-13-2008 10:09 AM

I have the St Augustine grass and I find that once a month from October to March works fine. So I do it myself for those 5 or 6 months. Than hire a lawn service for the other months. Now because I only use them for the busy months, I pay $10 a month more then the normal rate. But still save about $250 a year. And mowing the lawn once a month during the cooler months is pretty easy. Now I already had a lawn mower. If I had needed to go buy one I may not have done it this way.

NJblue 12-13-2008 02:20 PM

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Twice a month should be less that once a week, and I don't think it would get too unsightly - save the bread.
Does zoysia really grow that much slower than northern grasses? With fescue/blugrass/rye in the north I have to cut at least once a week and during the spring twice a week.

Also, what's with the zoysia going dormant and brown for 3 or 4 months during the winter? I know it has other qualities, but who wants to live in Florida and have brown grass all winter long? Can someone remove their zoysia south of 466 and replace with a grass that stays green?

Bogie Shooter 12-13-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 177512)
Does zoysia really grow that much slower than northern grasses? With fescue/blugrass/rye in the north I have to cut at least once a week and during the spring twice a week.

Also, what's with the zoysia going dormant and brown for 3 or 4 months during the winter? I know it has other qualities, but who wants to live in Florida and have brown grass all winter long? Can someone remove their zoysia south of 466 and replace with a grass that stays green?

And what grass would that be? Even the St Augustine goes dormat. The golf courses overseed with rye grass in the winter and it stays green. Only problem with using in your lawn is the matting that can occur.

NJblue 12-13-2008 05:03 PM

Does it go brown as well as dormant? Maybe I'm just not familiar with the climate and grasses around TV, but I don't recall coming to other parts of Florida and seeing brown grass. Even my grass in NJ stays green most, if not all, of the winter.

NJblue 12-13-2008 05:18 PM

How dos this grass sound?
http://www.landscape-america.com/grasses/palmetto.html

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Palmetto grass will remain green longer than any other variety of St. Augustine, and will stay green much longer than Bermuda grass and Centipede grass. Palmetto grass will slowly become dormant after several heavy frosts, and will remain evergreen in temperatures below freezing if there are no hard frosts. It will first go "off color" (e.g., the bottom layer of stolons will maintain green leaves while the top leaves develop the brown tinge characteristic of frost damage) before it lapses into total dormancy. In many parts of the South (Zones 7 — 9), Palmetto grass will be semi-evergreen.

Palmetto grass has demonstrated very good drought tolerance in field tests. Some turfgrass producers have been growing Palmetto grass in non-irrigated production fields since 1993, enduring droughts in excess of 2 months. Palmetto grass will wilt as any other St. Augustine grass, but will recover if water is applied. Palmetto St. Augustine grass has endured drought conditions as well as or better than any other variety of St. Augustine grass.

Seems like it has the drought tolerance of zoysia but retains its green color through most or all of the winter.

Bogie Shooter 12-13-2008 07:05 PM

You may find something here you like. The cost to replace your lawn will probably be significant.
http://www.sodsolutions.com/t_empire.shtml

Aceskaters 12-14-2008 05:51 PM

Empire Zoysia
 
I think that it is Empire Zoysia that we have here in Hemingway. It will look duller in the winter, but will come back in the spring. I use a battery-powered Neutron mower set at about 1 1/2 inches (as you mow zoysia much lower than St. Augustine) and, although I moved in about mid August, only needed to mow about once every 3 to 4 weeks. I quit mowing in October as the grass quit growing.

NJblue 12-14-2008 08:39 PM

That's interesting about your mower. How much grass do you have? I assume the battery lasts long enough to do the whole lawn? Would you recommend this arrangement to others with zoysia? I would like to do my own grass, but I prefer not to deal with a gas engine.

Aceskaters 12-15-2008 01:48 PM

NJBlue, It is my brother's Neutron electric battery mower and I borrow it when needed. I have an interior lot Amarillo with the fenced in back yard. I have always been able to mow it with one battery's worth of charge. My lawn is not large and this zoysia grass is so slow-growing and short that I am able to push the mower easily. Supposedly, the company is coming out with a self-propelled mower this spring and then I hope to buy this one from my brother (he lives in Tierra del Sol and he uses it on his St. Augustine lawn).

Jeff Bieberfeld 12-19-2008 11:35 PM

battery mower
 
tell us some more; this sounds very appealing; some people think that i should just get a non motorized reel-type mower; there have been major improvements in technology since the 1950's; still, seems like too much work really.
neutron mower.....website?
thanks.:

Jeff Bieberfeld 01-10-2009 12:28 AM

neuton mower
 
just got information on this mower; sounds great, the pricetag is not so great. had an idea..get 3 neighbors to buy it together and split the cost 3 ways.....if these lawns grow so slowly, we would not be wearing this one out so quickly...
will have to talk to some of my neighbors.....
or buy one and rent it out?
hmmmm?

zcaveman 01-03-2010 01:34 PM

I go with weekly in the summer and every other week betweeen November and April.

Larryandlinda 01-03-2010 02:44 PM

Lawn slaves?
 
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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 240971)
I go with weekly in the summer and every other week betweeen November and April.

Wow, sounds like someone loves mowing!

I know someone that shaves a couple times a day, more power to y'all.

Though one of us grew up as a lawnmower and small engine mechanic and installed several of the motors on bicycles,
we repented and got a rechargeable knowing that mowers pollute far more than cars and can smell up the garage.

Frequency?
We keep the 6 acres up yonder at 4" but in TV 'they' want it shorter, but since bought the places in March, we've only mowed four times and had someone do it once, responding to a 'too high' warning, and that was just about 3"

more grass=more 02

If we can pull it off we would like to try the xeriscape and get rid of the lawn - too many a man spends too many a day as a slave to the 'carpet'

Back up north, we grow things we can eat in as many places as we can.
If we played croquet, football, or other lawn sports, we might appreciate a fine lawn.

For now, we appreciate the ones we see as we bike around - so all you lawnkeepers thanks for your efforts!!
L&L

dadspet 01-03-2010 03:54 PM

Has anyone tried green dye to make grass look good?
 
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Originally Posted by truscapeturf (Post 240968)
You can overseed a cool season northern grass with your zoysia to get a year round green in your lawn.

I had a neighbor who did this last winter and in the summer fall his zoysia grass looks nearly 40% dead. I think he had a problem with his empire zoysia grass before he did the over seading so not sure if that had anything to do with it. To me Empire Zoysia is a long way from the perfect grass. Most lawns I see with Empire Zoysia are pretty marginal. For my lawn the Villages and lawn people can't seem to agree on what to do (cut it short, cut it long, not enough water, too much water etc) Perhaps its my frame of reference grass in NY which is dense green.

My Empire Zoysia lawn gets cut about 3 times a week in the spring summer fall and only 1x a mt in winter and I don't think it needs it then.

Has anyone tried green dye to keep their grass looking good?

golfnut 01-03-2010 04:12 PM

dadspet, you cut your lawn 3 times a week spring thru fall?????...gn

Larryandlinda 01-03-2010 04:17 PM

Has anyone tried green dye to make grass look good?
 
We assume that this is some kind of a tongue-in-cheek thing?

Sounds like something for St Patrick's Day!

We've had that green beer 40 years ago, but 'Clairol for grass"?

Like the lustrous, distinguished silver tops we have been sporting atop our heads for years, we happen to like the natural look of whatever grows out front.

We'd rather throw our green money at something other than green dye, especially with so many more important things.


But, whatever greens your grass we say, and who knows, we might enjoy it as we pedal by.

L&L

bluedog103 01-03-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Larryandlinda (Post 240995)
We assume that this is some kind of a tongue-in-cheek thing?

Sounds like something for St Patrick's Day!

We've had that green beer 40 years ago, but 'Clairol for grass"?

Like the lustrous, distinguished silver tops we have been sporting atop our heads for years, we happen to like the natural look of whatever grows out front.

We'd rather throw our green money at something other than green dye, especially with so many more important things.


But, whatever greens your grass we say, and who knows, we might enjoy it as we pedal by.

L&L

Do you need a special permit to be a peddler in TV?

Larryandlinda 01-03-2010 07:40 PM

Cutting it up with Bluedog
 
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Originally Posted by bluedog103 (Post 241021)
Do you need a special permit to be a peddler in TV?

Shhhhh bluedog!
When the time comes to peddle our
pedals, we'll make sure we go into a properly zoned location.
We look terrible in stripes and those handcuffs never felt good.
ciao paisano!
L&L

F16 1UB 02-24-2010 07:47 AM

No Need To Mow Yet
 
I haven't mowed since 12/21/09. If you have a lawn service that's mowing you're throwing away your money. The edges of my yard are just starting to turn green. I'll start mowing again in March. My yard is brown like everyone else's except for the houses on Odell & Stillwater that had their lawns painted.


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