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mswalsh 12-13-2008 07:23 PM

How do you enforce the leash law?
 
How do you enforce the leash law in the Villages? I live in the village of Santiago (Sumter County) & one of my neighbors lets their dog out without a leash & they do not come out to watch the dog. So, he roams everyone's yard & does you know what. The people have been asked to please keep an eye on the dog & they "yes" us to death & still don't watch the dog.

chuckster 12-13-2008 08:26 PM

Won't have much impact, but call neighborhood watch and at least you and the neighbors will be on record with a complaint regarding the roaming dog. And the neigborhood watch can.............watch.;)

barb1191 12-13-2008 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mswalsh (Post 177560)
How do you enforce the leash law in the Villages? I live in the village of Santiago (Sumter County) & one of my neighbors lets their dog out without a leash & they do not come out to watch the dog. So, he roams everyone's yard & does you know what. The people have been asked to please keep an eye on the dog & they "yes" us to death & still don't watch the dog.

Since the leash law is enforced by the County, I would imagine that you should contact the Sheriff's office and issue a complaint. Would also help if your neighbors joined in on the complaint.

In accordance with the County law, I would also complain to TV as they also enforce this law. It's no doubt part of TV Covenants. If the complaint is ignored by the perpetrator, then possibly TV would or maybe even the County would fine them, or even make them remove the dog from the premises completely.

You have the law on your side, go for it.

handieman 12-13-2008 08:51 PM

Leash Law
 
:jester:
Quote:

Originally Posted by mswalsh (Post 177560)
How do you enforce the leash law in the Villages? I live in the village of Santiago (Sumter County) & one of my neighbors lets their dog out without a leash & they do not come out to watch the dog. So, he roams everyone's yard & does you know what. The people have been asked to please keep an eye on the dog & they "yes" us to death & still don't watch the dog.

Ok heres the cure!

Carefully lift the doo doo into a brown paper bag.
Sit the bag with contents in front of the neighbors front door.
Light the bag on fire about 12 inches from the door
Ring the door bell when you know they are home (TIP! do this at night for greater effect)
The home owner will promply answer the door and stomp out the bag.

Hey what did you expect, I'm sitting here in a motel on I95 with time to kill
Handie

another Linda 12-13-2008 08:54 PM

Handi, what are you doing on I-95? Not coming back here are you?

handieman 12-13-2008 08:57 PM

its me
 
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Originally Posted by another Linda (Post 177572)
Handi, what are you doing on I-95? Not coming back here are you?


YES:cus:
handie

another Linda 12-13-2008 09:02 PM

Not * a * good * idea!!!! It's cold up here.

Talk Host 12-14-2008 11:16 AM

Neighborhood watch has nothing to do with dog leash violations. They will do nothing. You can call the deed compliance office and they will send somebody out to talk to the people....if you give them specific information on the owners. However, deed compliance has no authority. They will come out twice, then they will tell you to call the Marion County Animal Control office in Ocala. The county will send an officer to the offenders house and give them a warning. They will return on a second compaint and give them a citation.

You can choose to bypass the deed compliance office and go directly to the County. That will get things done more quickly.

I recently called the deed compliance office about a guy who walks his dog every day without a leash. They told me that I had to "secretly follow him home" to get his address. I said I would not put myself into that situation, that should be a job for Neighborhood watch. I was informed that it was "not" and that it was up to me to gather the information.

golfnut 12-14-2008 04:29 PM

never mind

Talk Host 12-14-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by golfnut (Post 177678)
talk host, seems to me if it's too much of an inconvenience to follow this person home (at a safe distance) to get their address it can't be that big of a problem.

Under the law, following somebody can be considered stalking. Secondly, it is not a matter of inconvenience, it is a matter that a mere warning that it should be done at a "safe" distance denotes danger attached to such activity. Why are the compliance office and neighborhood watch in existance if it is up to the residents to do their work. I told them where it was and the exact time it occurs each day. That should have been enough for action of their part.

I can hear it now! Me, "Hello, police, somebody just robbed the bank." Police, "did you follow them home to get an address for us." Me, "NO" Police, "...well it can't be that much of a problem if you didn't follow them home."

SteveZ 12-14-2008 06:38 PM

Why worry about being a "good neighbor" on this?

This problem is solved the same as anywhere else in the country.

Call the county sheriff on the NON-emergency number and report the fact that the dog is loose and runs through the area and the owner knows about it and encourages the action. By the way, you can't tell if the dog is tagged or not. County animal control will check to see if the dog has a county tag.

If the county sheriff keeps getting calls (on the NON-emergency number), there will be a "stop by and see" with the dog's owner.

Talk Host 12-15-2008 09:57 AM

If there is any member here who has never said something they thought was funny, but turned out it wasn't, please raise your hand.

I for one, have said lots of things in my lifetime that I thought were funny but they weren't. I'm glad that most people realize they have done the same thing and have forgiven me.

drdodge 12-15-2008 01:45 PM

dogs
 
Not a villages leash law its a county law so call Sumter county dog officer and he will tell you he is to busy to come out here.

drd

Taltarzac 12-15-2008 03:17 PM

What kind of dog is this Talk Host?
 
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Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 177680)
Under the law, following somebody can be considered stalking. Secondly, it is not a matter of inconvenience, it is a matter that a mere warning that it should be done at a "safe" distance denotes danger attached to such activity. Why are the compliance office and neighborhood watch in existance if it is up to the residents to do their work. I told them where it was and the exact time it occurs each day. That should have been enough for action of their part.

I can hear it now! Me, "Hello, police, somebody just robbed the bank." Police, "did you follow them home to get an address for us." Me, "NO" Police, "...well it can't be that much of a problem if you didn't follow them home."


Maybe, the dog owner and/or friends of the dog owner use TOTV? What kind of dog is this Talk Host?

I hope this is a big dog that would scare of an alligator like a Great Dane, Mastiff, German Shepard, Doberman, or something along those lines.

Hate to think if it is a Yorkshire Terrier or a Chihuahau?

I have not seen any dogs in my neighborhood of Lynnhaven wandering any further than their immediate vicinity of their own houses.

SABRMnLgs 12-18-2008 01:09 PM

Beagle
 
We have a beagle and I believe I can count on one hand the number of times she has been on a leash, other than going to the vets, etc. She is allowed to roam free anywhere in our yard but is not allowed outside it's boundaries.
Taught to her beginning as an eight week old puppy.

rshoffer 12-18-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SABRMnLgs (Post 178224)
We have a beagle and I believe I can count on one hand the number of times she has been on a leash, other than going to the vets, etc. She is allowed to roam free anywhere in our yard but is not allowed outside it's boundaries.
Taught to her beginning as an eight week old puppy.

Well try this one on for size... We have an 8 year old yellow lab... the kindest and most gentile creature I've ever known. We live on a corner lot and he's very well trained... when we are outside he just lolly-gags around the yard (our yard), sleeps and takes in the sights. The other day my wife was out in OUR yard with our dog and a lady is walking down the street and she starts barking (pun intended)... "is that dog on a leash, is that dog on a leash.... there's a leash law you know"... . Well my wife tried to talk to the lady and of course our lab strolled over to get the expected pat on the head which he feels is his God given right and she was beside herself. Anyway, her point (I assume incorrect) was that any time your dog is outside the confines of your home they must be on a leash... even if you are with them in your yard and they are snoozin beside you while you are pulling weeds. Huh?

graciegirl 12-18-2008 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rshoffer (Post 178230)
Well try this one on for size... We have an 8 year old yellow lab... the kindest and most gentile creature I've ever known. We live on a corner lot and he's very well trained... when we are outside he just lolly-gags around the yard (our yard), sleeps and takes in the sights. The other day my wife was out in OUR yard with our dog and a lady is walking down the street and she starts barking (pun intended)... "is that dog on a leash, is that dog on a leash.... there's a leash law you know"... . Well my wife tried to talk to the lady and of course our lab strolled over to get the expected pat on the head which he feels is his God given right and she was beside herself. Anyway, her point (I assume incorrect) was that any time your dog is outside the confines of your home they must be on a leash... even if you are with them in your yard and they are snoozin beside you while you are pulling weeds. Huh?

I know for a fact that you are a psychiatrist. I think that you should have said, "This dog is well trained. Allow me to introduce myself. I am Dr. Pavlov."

Taltarzac 12-18-2008 03:06 PM

Here is a link about the leash law in Sumter County.
 
http://sumtercountyfl.gov/cs/animal/ordinance.htm

It looks like FL is one of the states which authorizes local communities to enact local laws covering pets. There are state laws too.

rshoffer 12-18-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 178237)
I know for a fact that you are a psychiatrist. I think that you should have said, "This dog is well trained. Allow me to introduce myself. I am Dr. Pavlov."

Classic response!!!

rshoffer 12-18-2008 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac (Post 178244)
http://sumtercountyfl.gov/cs/animal/ordinance.htm

It looks like FL is one of the states which authorizes local communities to enact local laws covering pets. There are state laws too.

Case closed... wuf-wuf

downeaster 12-19-2008 09:15 AM

I may know you.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rshoffer (Post 178230)
Well try this one on for size... We have an 8 year old yellow lab... the kindest and most gentile creature I've ever known. We live on a corner lot and he's very well trained... when we are outside he just lolly-gags around the yard (our yard), sleeps and takes in the sights. ?

One of my walking routes takes me by a home with a yellow lab. He lays on the lawn looking at me as to say "If you would care to stop and visit, I would enjoy a pat". Not wanting to interfere with the owners desires, I decline and move on.
Having once been owned by a yellow lab I am a great admirer of the breed.
I am also an admirer of those dog owners who take a few extra minutes ti train their dogs properly.
Hats off to you and those like you!!!

rshoffer 12-19-2008 09:45 AM

That does create a dilemma for the poor dog. He is firmly disciplined to NOT leave the yard.... yet hes such a loveable creature that most who walk by call him over for a pet... and he, unfortunately meanders beyond his borders to get that so much desired neck scratch. But then looks at me, head low, knowing he's in trouble. I can see why people who own and love pets live longer. They ask for so little and give back so much.

billethkid 12-19-2008 08:12 PM

If Handi's suggestion does not work, simply pick up the dog.....
 
return to the owner indicating the next time it will be delivered to the humane society.

BTK

F16 1UB 12-19-2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SABRMnLgs (Post 178224)
We have a beagle and I believe I can count on one hand the number of times she has been on a leash, other than going to the vets, etc. She is allowed to roam free anywhere in our yard but is not allowed outside it's boundaries.
Taught to her beginning as an eight week old puppy.

Man - aint you the lucky one. I coulda taught this to Sadie Mae in the womb and she still wouldn't have got it. :undecided:


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