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Bogie Shooter 04-09-2016 09:01 AM

Villages Guest issued Passes Soars in March
 
In case you missed it, the Daily Sun compared guest passes issued in 2015 to 2016.
January (2015) 23427 (2016) 22548
February 32785 36900
March 49369 51362

villagerjack 04-09-2016 09:04 AM

And your point is?

graciegirl 04-09-2016 09:25 AM

Well that is why we had so many folks ahead of us in line and clogging the streets. Yesterday I saw something that I have never seen before here in The Villages. On 466 cars in the middle of the intersection at Buena Vista blocking a green light. Just like Orlando. Booo.


It was nice of you to visit y'all. Now go home.

Bogie Shooter 04-09-2016 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1210616)
And your point is?

I was just giving this information to those who don't get the DS, seasonal folks and those unfamiliar to The Villages. I thought it was interesting and was new to me....and maybe others.
Why do you ask? Or better still what is your point?

villagerjack 04-09-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1210630)
Well that is why we had so many folks ahead of us in line and clogging the streets. Yesterday I saw something that I have never seen before here in The Villages. On 466 cars in the middle of the intersection at Buena Vista blocking a green light. Just like:welcome: Orlando. Booo.


It was nice of you to visit y'all. Now go home.

I believe that comment is uncalled for and very surprising coming from Graciegirl. As The Villages grows so will the number of residents and families who visit them. Frankly I love to see all the visitors especially the children having fun in The Villages. And I am sure you do too. :welcome:

villagerjack 04-09-2016 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1210636)
I was just giving this information to those who don't get the DS, seasonal folks and those unfamiliar to The Villages. I thought it was interesting and was new to me....and maybe others.
Why do you ask? Or better still what is your point?

No offense. As the Villages grows so will the number of families and children who visit. All support the local businesses so we can have these businesses open all year long. It will be up again next year if we are all still lucky enough to be here.

dewilson58 04-09-2016 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1210614)
In case you missed it, the Daily Sun compared guest passes issued in 2015 to 2016.
January (2015) 23427 (2016) 22548
February 32785 36900
March 49369 51362

B
Educate me...............does this include renters??.........or just guests.
Thanx
dew

Bonny 04-09-2016 10:06 AM

I for one love the snowbirds and renters. Without them we would not have the stores & restaurants that we have here. They spend a lot of money while they are here so businesses, restaurants & wait staff can make some good money.
Also, keep in mind that almost all places around the world deal with seasonal people.
We are going to St, Maarten in May for 3 weeks. We always take our big vacations in May because every where is coming out of high season. May is always perfect. Not too busy, but not too dead.
They will all be gone soon and we will have it all to ourselves til next season. :D

villagerjack 04-09-2016 10:09 AM

I heard that next year everyone who rents will have to wear a big red R on their back so we can easily identify them. This will be on a trial basis until we figure out why we really want to do this in the first place. This action, of course will confuse all those folks from NJ will will be wondering why we have so many Rutgers Fans in The Villages.

Kirsten Lee 04-09-2016 10:13 AM

I suspect guest passes will be down in April 2016 this year compared to last year. Why? Easter was in April last year and in March this year.

Bogie Shooter 04-09-2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1210644)
B
Educate me...............does this include renters??.........or just guests.
Thanx
dew

The article indicated guest ID's.

dewilson58 04-09-2016 10:26 AM

50,000 in March, that's a nice sized city.

:clap2:

Quietman 04-09-2016 10:40 AM

I was surprised at the attacks on the OP and Gracie for just giving out interesting stats. What's going on?

dewilson58 04-09-2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Quietman (Post 1210674)
I was surprised at the attacks on the OP and Gracie for just giving out interesting stats. What's going on?

Unfortunately, it happens..............happens too much.

yabbadu 04-09-2016 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1210649)
I for one love the snowbirds and renters. Without them we would not have the stores & restaurants that we have here. They spend a lot of money while they are here so businesses, restaurants & wait staff can make some good money.
Also, keep in mind that almost all places around the world deal with seasonal people.
We are going to St, Maarten in May for 3 weeks. We always take our big vacations in May because every where is coming out of high season. May is always perfect. Not too busy, but not too dead.
They will all be gone soon and we will have it all to ourselves til next season. :D

Agree....:BigApplause:

Yea..MSU....:clap2:

villagerjack 04-09-2016 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quietman (Post 1210674)
I was surprised at the attacks on the OP and Gracie for just giving out interesting stats. What's going on?

Can you point out the "attacks" so appropriate comments can be made?

villagerjack 04-09-2016 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1210690)
Unfortunately, it happens..............happens too much.

What happens too much?

joldnol 04-09-2016 12:19 PM

not surprising, it's called spring break. As the population continues to grow so will the spring break visitors.

graciegirl 04-09-2016 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirsten Lee (Post 1210660)
I suspect guest passes will be down in April 2016 this year compared to last year. Why? Easter was in April last year and in March this year.



You are probably correct. I got a couple of PMs from some folks on the forum who wanted to know why I was grumpy.


I love the visitors but I also love having this place to ourselves.

joldnol 04-09-2016 12:21 PM

especially now before the weather gets worse

plrbr1120 04-09-2016 12:24 PM

Interesting information. Thanks for sharing.

villagerjack 04-09-2016 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1210649)
I for one love the snowbirds and renters. Without them we would not have the stores & restaurants that we have here. They spend a lot of money while they are here so businesses, restaurants & wait staff can make some good money.
Also, keep in mind that almost all places around the world deal with seasonal people.
We are going to St, Maarten in May for 3 weeks. We always take our big vacations in May because every where is coming out of high season. May is always perfect. Not too busy, but not too dead.
They will all be gone soon and we will have it all to ourselves til next season. :D


What about their good looks and personalities? Just kidding Bonnie, you are right on. And we cannot forget that Seasonal residents pay Anenity Fees all year long, without which we would not have half the amenities we all enjoy in this wonderful place. I am happy that I have lived another year to enjoy the fun and witness the fun others are having in The Villages. Now if we could just keep those pesky permanent residents off 466? Can't they see that the seasonal residents want to get by?:1rotfl::1rotfl::clap2::1rotfl:

Bonny 04-09-2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1210718)
What about their good looks and personalities? Just kidding Bonnie, you are right on. And we cannot forget that Seasonal residents pay Anenity Fees all year long, without which we would not have half the amenities we all enjoy in this wonderful place. I am happy that I have lived another year to enjoy the fun and witness the fun others are having in The Villages. Now if we could just keep those pesky permanent residents off 466? Can't they see that the seasonal residents want to get by?:1rotfl::1rotfl::clap2::1rotfl:

LOL :clap2:

villagerjack 04-09-2016 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1210710)
You are probably correct. I got a couple of PMs from some folks on the forum who wanted to know why I was grumpy.


I love the visitors but I also love having this place to ourselves.

How does one become a member of "ourselves"? Is there a club and if so what kind of credentials does one have to show? Would a deed to a home be sufficient?

Rango 04-09-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1210616)
And your point is?

I think the point is that snow birds are not the only cause of traffic etc in The Villages.

villagerjack 04-09-2016 03:50 PM

Exactly. Permanent residents also use their cars.

kansasr 04-09-2016 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1210614)
In case you missed it, the Daily Sun compared guest passes issued in 2015 to 2016.
January (2015) 23427 (2016) 22548
February 32785 36900
March 49369 51362

I really wouldn't consider a 4% increase to be a soaring increase!

OBXNana 04-09-2016 08:52 PM

I find stats interesting. Bogie, please keep them coming for those of us that find there is more to the forum than complaining.

CFrance 04-09-2016 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1210738)
How does one become a member of "ourselves"? Is there a club and if so what kind of credentials does one have to show? Would a deed to a home be sufficient?

I think by "ourselves," Gracie is referirng to permanent residents. And I don't think she is intending any kind of slam on non-permanent residents. As far as traffic and crowded-ness is concerned, it just is what it is. No judgements.

graciegirl 04-09-2016 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1210820)
I think by "ourselves," Gracie is referirng to permanent residents. And I don't think she is intending any kind of slam on non-permanent residents. As far as traffic and crowded-ness is concerned, it just is what it is. No judgements.



C is right. It is fun and exciting to be at full capacity and good and nice too to have less of crowds and traffic. It is a cycle. We were snowbirds and became frogs and then we will perhaps leave for the village of Heavenly. Then more snowbirds will come and the old snowbirds will become frogs except for folks like our beloved Barefoot who goes home to Canada. And on and on. There are few folks who don't love company and then enjoy the peace of not having to be so busy.


No offense meant. I wasn't trying to be mean. If any of you go from being a snowbird or a snowflake or a fruit fly to being a frog, then you will see the delight the whole year brings.

T-325 04-10-2016 04:45 AM

I was thinking that these guest passes may have actually been for guests... not renters. My guess is new owners have many guests over the course of the year, especially the first few as their family and friends want to see where they have settled in retirement. This is not a linear relationship with the number of new homes being built and more a function of demographics.

With all the baby boomers just starting to retire I would think the number of passes used for this purpose will go up significantly.

asianthree 04-10-2016 05:21 AM

We are not contributing to numbers in January, February, March or April. Boys come in May, no kids in tow. How do the guest pass numbers look in summer?

rubicon 04-10-2016 05:39 AM

Florida's Friendliest HomeTown
 
In the event it escaped some the marketing from The Villages has and continues to depict idyllic retirement living worthy of a millionaire and on retirement savings.

How any one can celebrate a departure from that implied promise is surprising. Perhaps overcrowded streets, multi-modal paths, restaurants, stores, golf courses etc is someone's idea of a good time but to me there is this thing called over saturation. Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder and many of us left congested cities for a more relax life style but for the previous four or five month I was just not feeling the love.

As to the economic benefit I do understand but The Villages and surrounding area has grown so much I suspect the year around population would sufficiently support the business community without many businesses missing a beat. And as to your personal investment does all of this add or subtract from it?

The saddest aspect of all is that build out continues ad nauseam

Cést la vie

Bonny 04-10-2016 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1210841)
In the event it escaped some the marketing from The Villages has and continues to depict idyllic retirement living worthy of a millionaire and on retirement savings.

How any one can celebrate a departure from that implied promise is surprising. Perhaps overcrowded streets, multi-modal paths, restaurants, stores, golf courses etc is someone's idea of a good time but to me there is this thing called over saturation. Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder and many of us left congested cities for a more relax life style but for the previous four or five month I was just not feeling the love.

Quote:

As to the economic benefit I do understand but The Villages and surrounding area has grown so much I suspect the year around population would sufficiently support the business community without many businesses missing a beat.
And as to your personal investment does all of this add or subtract from it?

The saddest aspect of all is that build out continues ad nauseam

Cést la vie

Totally disagree with this. In the summertime the restaurants & shops are not busy at all. I see so many of the young service staff struggling to make ends meet as their hours get cut or they drive all the way here just to be cut early and told to go home. Several of the restaurants cut down on the entertainment a few nights a week because not as much money coming in. Thank goodness for season when they can make some money.

graciegirl 04-10-2016 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1210848)
Totally disagree with this. In the summertime the restaurants & shops are not busy at all. I see so many of the young service staff struggling to make ends meet as their hours get cut or they drive all the way here just to be cut early and told to go home. Several of the restaurants cut down on the entertainment a few nights a week because not as much money coming in. Thank goodness for season when they can make some money.



That is a very good point. It is of course what it is. I like it when we have things busy and I like the less busy times.


The whole state of Florida has experienced an uptick in population. Florida is now the third most populous state.

Jima64 04-10-2016 06:59 AM

Passes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rango (Post 1210765)
I think the point is that snow birds are not the only cause of traffic etc in The Villages.

Maybe when the snowbirds are here reflects how busy the villages would be if they ere here year round. Would reflect the true population.

graciegirl 04-10-2016 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jima64 (Post 1210855)
Maybe when the snowbirds are here reflects how busy the villages would be if they ere here year round. Would reflect the true population.



I wonder if that will ever be, all of us who own living here all of the time. Some of us are leaving all of the time. This has been a sad week for us for friends leaving us. They say it happens in threes and it did.


And as we age and die, new folks will come and join The Villages, probably at first as part timers.


I hope in the future that some of the changes some folks want to make here won't make this place just ordinary. I hope that when the inmates run the asylum that somehow it will stay the same. I hope Janet Tutt lives forever so generation after generation of people who carefully planned and sacrificed will have the same kind of fourth quarter to their game of life that we all do now.

Bogie Shooter 04-10-2016 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1210663)
The article indicated guest ID's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-325 (Post 1210835)
I was thinking that these guest passes may have actually been for guests... not renters. My guess is new owners have many guests over the course of the year, especially the first few as their family and friends want to see where they have settled in retirement. This is not a linear relationship with the number of new homes being built and more a function of demographics.

With all the baby boomers just starting to retire I would think the number of passes used for this purpose will go up significantly.

Yep!

asianthree 04-10-2016 02:26 PM

I do find it much quieter on the lanai mid April

rubicon 04-10-2016 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OBXNana (Post 1210813)
I find stats interesting. Bogie, please keep them coming for those of us that find there is more to the forum than complaining.

Perhaps you would be so kind as to explain your definition of complaining vis a vis disagreement/and difference of opinion? And perhaps you would further qualify it with the difference between either it being legitimate or illegitimate?

I politely ask this because it seems too often on this forum if one does not conform with the opinion of some members then it is taken as an affront, and an illegitimate one at that. It seems some favor collective thought rather than individual thought. Do you suppose this is a byproduct of political correctness?

Do you suppose that if one labels an opposing opinion as "complaining" it accomplishes the same goal as political correctness ending free speech in its tracks?

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