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Guest 04-11-2016 12:02 PM

Obama "guarantees" justice department will not protect Clinton!?
 
I know hw was responding to a question but why the emphasis on "guarantee" that they will not protect her?

I would have expected him to say something more lawyerly like he would support what ever the findings of the FBI and the justice system dictate.

And in the lawyerly terminology if someone else in his administration does in fact protect her somehow......he has deniability.

I have no confidence and do not trust anything from him or his administration. They all earned that!!!

Obama: I 'guarantee' Justice Dept. won’t protect Hillary - POLITICO

Guest 04-11-2016 12:20 PM

I seem to also recall him 'guaranteeing' that if we like your doctor and health care provider that we could keep them. How did that work out?

Guest 04-11-2016 12:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211257)
I know hw was responding to a question but why the emphasis on "guarantee" that they will not protect her?

I would have expected him to say something more lawyerly like he would support what ever the findings of the FBI and the justice system dictate.

And in the lawyerly terminology if someone else in his administration does in fact protect her somehow......he has deniability.

I have no confidence and do not trust anything from him or his administration. They all earned that!!!

Obama: I 'guarantee' Justice Dept. won’t protect Hillary - POLITICO

Obama also said that Clinton's personal email use "has not jeopardized America’s national security," even though they contained classified information. "Now, what I’ve also said is that — and she has acknowledged — that there’s a carelessness, in terms of managing e-mails, that she has owned, and she recognizes," Obama said.

The president also noted that not all "classified" material is created equal.

"There’s classified, and then there’s classified," Obama said. "There’s stuff that is really top-secret, top-secret, and there’s stuff that is being presented to the president or the secretary of state, that you might not want on the transom, or going out over the wire, but is basically stuff that you could get in open-source."

That is an admission of guilt and punishable as a criminal violation of federal law. It does not matter if she claims carelessness, that's not a valid excuse or defense.

Is Obama really that stupid or does he think that Americans are stupid? Open source information is NOT classified. Classified information is based on source or timeliness of intelligence information. You may get the same information as classified from an open source, but that does not make that information classified. AND he should know that. Otherwise, he should not be in that position. We already know he is a liar, but he really shouldn't reinforce that finding, by further lies.

He says that there was no violation of national security when he knows that there was a hacker that had the information related to Ambassador's travel itinerary. Classified information. If that is how the terrorists knew where and when he was going to be, and they were able to assault and kill him, then I would consider that a violation.

Talk about a corrupt administration. They make Nixon look like a boy scout.

Guest 04-11-2016 12:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211275)
Obama also said that Clinton's personal email use "has not jeopardized America’s national security," even though they contained classified information. "Now, what I’ve also said is that — and she has acknowledged — that there’s a carelessness, in terms of managing e-mails, that she has owned, and she recognizes," Obama said.

The president also noted that not all "classified" material is created equal.

"There’s classified, and then there’s classified," Obama said. "There’s stuff that is really top-secret, top-secret, and there’s stuff that is being presented to the president or the secretary of state, that you might not want on the transom, or going out over the wire, but is basically stuff that you could get in open-source."

That is an admission of guilt and punishable as a criminal violation of federal law. It does not matter if she claims carelessness, that's not a valid excuse or defense.

Is Obama really that stupid or does he think that Americans are stupid? Open source information is NOT classified. Classified information is based on source or timeliness of intelligence information. You may get the same information as classified from an open source, but that does not make that information classified. AND he should know that. Otherwise, he should not be in that position. We already know he is a liar, but he really shouldn't reinforce that finding, by further lies.

He says that there was no violation of national security when he knows that there was a hacker that had the information related to Ambassador's travel itinerary. Classified information. If that is how the terrorists knew where and when he was going to be, and they were able to assault and kill him, then I would consider that a violation.

Talk about a corrupt administration. They make Nixon look like a boy scout.

All politicians alternate initals are....CYA.

Guest 04-11-2016 02:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211275)
Obama also said that Clinton's personal email use "has not jeopardized America’s national security," even though they contained classified information. "Now, what I’ve also said is that — and she has acknowledged — that there’s a carelessness, in terms of managing e-mails, that she has owned, and she recognizes," Obama said.

The president also noted that not all "classified" material is created equal.

"There’s classified, and then there’s classified," Obama said. "There’s stuff that is really top-secret, top-secret, and there’s stuff that is being presented to the president or the secretary of state, that you might not want on the transom, or going out over the wire, but is basically stuff that you could get in open-source."

That is an admission of guilt and punishable as a criminal violation of federal law. It does not matter if she claims carelessness, that's not a valid excuse or defense.

Is Obama really that stupid or does he think that Americans are stupid? Open source information is NOT classified. Classified information is based on source or timeliness of intelligence information. You may get the same information as classified from an open source, but that does not make that information classified. AND he should know that. Otherwise, he should not be in that position. We already know he is a liar, but he really shouldn't reinforce that finding, by further lies.

He says that there was no violation of national security when he knows that there was a hacker that had the information related to Ambassador's travel itinerary. Classified information. If that is how the terrorists knew where and when he was going to be, and they were able to assault and kill him, then I would consider that a violation.

Talk about a corrupt administration. They make Nixon look like a boy scout.

Zounds! The Gang of Three :loco: is talking to themselves again! You can tell by their constant blithering blather. :a20:

Guest 04-11-2016 02:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211304)
Zounds! The Gang of Three :loco: is talking to themselves again! You can tell by their constant blithering blather. :a20:

There very well might be only three of us on here now. Better than one Sybil the multi-blathering idiot liberal that talks to HIMSELF.

You are very good at one line disparaging, but why not join the fun with some substantial commentary? It might do you good to think outside the troll box.

Guest 04-11-2016 03:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211316)
There very well might be only three of us on here now. Better than one Sybil the multi-blathering idiot liberal that talks to HIMSELF.

You are very good at one line disparaging, but why not join the fun with some substantial commentary? It might do you good to think outside the troll box.

I wish someone else will speak up. Everything this person reads he thinks is me.
Unless this a one your tricks.

For the record I did like some of Sybil's personalities. The ones in italics are the ones I would have dated in the good old days. Yowzer

Sybil Isabel Dorsett (1923), the main personality
Victoria Antoinette Scharleau (1926), nicknamed Vicky, self-assured and sophisticated young French girl
Peggy Lou Baldwin (1926), assertive, enthusiastic, and often angry
Peggy Ann Baldwin (1926), a counterpart of Peggy Lou but more fearful than angry
Mary Lucinda Saunders Dorsett (1933), a thoughtful, contemplative, and maternal homebody
Marcia Lynn Dorsett (1927), an extremely emotional writer and painter
Vanessa Gail Dorsett (1935), intensely dramatic is the musical one of them and fun loving.
Mike Dorsett (1928), one of Sybil's two male selves, a builder and a carpenter [I would have hired him]
Sid Dorsett (1928), the second of Sybil's two male selves, a carpenter and a general handyman. Sid took his name from Sybil's initials (Sybil Isabelle Dorsett),
Nancy Lou Ann Baldwin (date undetermined), interested in politics as fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and intensely afraid of Roman Catholics [this would have never worked out]
Sybil Ann Dorsett (1928), listless to the point of neurasthenia
Ruthie Dorsett (date undetermined), a baby and one of the less developed selves
Clara Dorsett (date undetermined), intensely religious and highly critical of Sybil
Helen Dorsett (1929), intensely afraid but determined to achieve fulfillment
Marjorie Dorsett (1928), serene, vivacious, and quick to laugh
The Blonde (1946), a nameless perpetual teenager with an optimistic outlook

Guest 04-11-2016 05:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211257)
"guarantee" that they will not protect her?

He is saying she is not going to be prosecuted. If you are not going to be prosecuted, you don't need protection.

Nobody can beat Hillary, it is mathematically impossible. The 52% on gov assistance are voting for no cuts in their checks. They don't care how many emails she destroyed or how many top secret documents she handled improperly. They are idiots themselves, they would probably screw up to if they had a job...they don't want to go to work. They can identify with her being a **** up!

When this country goes bankrupt, you will have wished you followed my advise: STOCK UP ON AMMO!!

Guest 04-11-2016 06:19 PM

Obama proves time and time again his poor judgement.
Specifically being presidential and keeping his mouth shut.

And now that he is a lame duck and no election for him to lose he could care less.

Since when does a president make a judgement on public information?

January 2017 cannot get here fast enough.

Guest 04-11-2016 06:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211387)
Since when does a president make a judgement on public information?

Yes, I think it's unpresidented.

Guest 04-11-2016 09:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211371)
He is saying she is not going to be prosecuted. If you are not going to be prosecuted, you don't need protection.

Nobody can beat Hillary, it is mathematically impossible. The 52% on gov assistance are voting for no cuts in their checks.

When this country goes bankrupt, you will have wished you followed my advise: STOCK UP ON AMMO!!



Oh, by the way, your advise on stocking up on ammo is the kind of thing that is being looked for by the NSA and other Federal surveillance agencies.

If you sound like a clear and present danger (and you is getting mighty close), the knock on your door may be someone inviting you for a chat.

Guest 04-11-2016 09:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211428)
Oh, by the way, your advise on stocking up on ammo is the kind of thing that is being looked for by the NSA and other Federal surveillance agencies.

If you sound like a clear and present danger (and you is getting mighty close), the knock on your door may be someone inviting you for a chat.

Please define how I am "getting mighty close"

I am no danger, just like to be prepared to defend myself. As an American, I do still have the right to bear arms don't I?

Guest 04-11-2016 09:57 PM

Stock up on ammo!

Guest 04-11-2016 10:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211371)
He is saying she is not going to be prosecuted. If you are not going to be prosecuted, you don't need protection.

Nobody can beat Hillary, it is mathematically impossible. The 52% on gov assistance are voting for no cuts in their checks. They don't care how many emails she destroyed or how many top secret documents she handled improperly. They are idiots themselves, they would probably screw up to if they had a job...they don't want to go to work. They can identify with her being a **** up!

When this country goes bankrupt, you will have wished you followed my advise: STOCK UP ON AMMO!!


When the country goes bankrupt? 19 trillion? What call that? New flash, we are already bankrupt! As far as Hillary, the fed gov. Full of liberal democrat in charge will plenty of scratch my back I'll scratch yours management. She will never be charged by the liberal controlled justice system. They don't eat their own.

Guest 04-11-2016 10:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211371)
He is saying she is not going to be prosecuted. If you are not going to be prosecuted, you don't need protection.

Nobody can beat Hillary, it is mathematically impossible. The 52% on gov assistance are voting for no cuts in their checks. They don't care how many emails she destroyed or how many top secret documents she handled improperly. They are idiots themselves, they would probably screw up to if they had a job...they don't want to go to work. They can identify with her being a **** up!

When this country goes bankrupt, you will have wished you followed my advise: STOCK UP ON AMMO!!

You have no idea how stupid you sound, when you make a post like this. You throw out percentages, but have no idea who is included in the 52%.

Warren Buffet receives social security checks monthly. Do you really think that he will be voting for Hillary, because he is on the government dole?

People receiving social security, and Medicare are more likely to vote Republican than Democrat. They are included in the 52%.
7 Facts About Government Benefits and Who Gets Them - The Atlantic

Families receiving welfare checks as their only income is around 2.5 million. That is less than 1% of the total population.

Guest 04-11-2016 10:22 PM

And what do you imagine the ammo is for? Who scares you?

Guest 04-11-2016 10:38 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211444)
You have no idea how stupid you sound, when you make a post like this. You throw out percentages, but have no idea who is included in the 52%.

Warren Buffet receives social security checks monthly. Do you really think that he will be voting for Hillary, because he is on the government dole?

People receiving social security, and Medicare are more likely to vote Republican than Democrat. They are included in the 52%.
7 Facts About Government Benefits and Who Gets Them - The Atlantic

Families receiving welfare checks as their only income is around 2.5 million. That is less than 1% of the total population.

Warren Buffet will vote for Hillary because she opposes the Keystone Pipeline. By doing so she will ensure that his railroad, the Burlington Northern Santa Fe will continue to transport the oil by rail, therby, continuing to line good old Warren's pockets.

Guest 04-12-2016 03:08 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211450)
Warren Buffet will vote for Hillary because she opposes the Keystone Pipeline. By doing so she will ensure that his railroad, the Burlington Northern Santa Fe will continue to transport the oil by rail, therby, continuing to line good old Warren's pockets.

Good point. Hillary will get Hollywood's votes also, AFTER they realize that Bernie is not really in the game, just more show business. Bernie was never really in the game. Democrats wouldn't even allow Bernie in the nomination process if they had planned a fair election process. All those democrat votes were just for show. The DNC has already made their choice way before Bernie entered the fray. Hillary will be coronated if she is not incarcerated.

Guest 04-12-2016 04:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211450)
Warren Buffet will vote for Hillary because she opposes the Keystone Pipeline. By doing so she will ensure that his railroad, the Burlington Northern Santa Fe will continue to transport the oil by rail, therby, continuing to line good old Warren's pockets.

Buffet's doing the right thing. I wonder if we can get the rest of the 1/10 of 1%'rs to have a social conscience?


"Warren Buffett, the world's second-richest man, is making an unprecedented donation to the foundation run by the world's richest man, Microsoft CEO Bill Gates.

Buffett, 75, the CEO of the Omaha, Neb.-based company Berkshire Hathaway, is worth $44 billion, according to Fortune magazine.

Fortune reports that Buffett will donate 85 percent of his fortune amassed from stock in the Berkshire Hathaway company to five foundations.

The donations, which will come from Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway shares, would amount to about $37 billion, based on current values.

Five-sixths of the money reportedly will go to The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which specializes in finding cures for diseases that plague impoverished nations."

That still leaves him a few billion so his ancestors will never need to work. Isn't that enough? Enough so that your family can be as wealthy as a royal family never needing to work. How healthy will that be for them?

Guest 04-12-2016 06:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211465)
Buffet's doing the right thing. I wonder if we can get the rest of the 1/10 of 1%'rs to have a social conscience? ...How healthy will that be for them?

Warren Buffett is far from sainthood.

Warren Buffett is a businessman with very little social conscience. Consider his opposition to that pipeline for his own financial gain. Don't believe for a moment he gives a **** about ecology and wetlands, because if he did he would clean up Burlington Northern's emissions with some of the 37 billion he is planning to give away.

Buffett never passes up a farm subsidy or a wind energy subsidy, when he has amassed so much wealth already, only so he can take the money and give it to others in his name (bit of a philanthropist ego)? He could just not apply for the subsidies reducing the countries debt, he could just not take the tax deductions for the charity donations reducing the countries debt.

He is definitely voting for Hillary. He is fine with the idea of giving away someone else's money as Hillary is not planning on giving away much of her and Bill's wealth, just other people's money (that they do not know, or like).

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Guest 04-12-2016 06:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211439)
Please define how I am "getting mighty close"

I am no danger, just like to be prepared to defend myself. As an American, I do still have the right to bear arms don't I?

You don't have to get defensive with me. Just a friendly tip to prepare yourself for the inevitable knock on the door - or battering ram. Quien no sabe?

Guest 04-12-2016 06:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211444)
You throw out percentages, but have no idea who is included in the 52%....Families receiving welfare checks as their only income is around 2.5 million. That is less than 1% of the total population.

Yes I am aware that SS recipients is included in the 52% and those checks will stop coming when Hillary bankrupts the country too. Social Security Disability claims escalated during the recession...

The key word in your 1% claim is "only", so they work 20 hours in a year and now welfare is not their only source of income...

If you think that 52% is nothing to be concerned with, just go about your day.

But I am STOCKING UP ON AMMO!

Guest 04-12-2016 07:01 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211491)
You don't have to get defensive with me. Just a friendly tip to prepare yourself for the inevitable knock on the door - or battering ram. Quien no sabe?

Not defensive at all, I just asked you to define "mighty close" as you seem to know what the criteria is for NSA to batter down a person's door because they typed and advised to STOCK UP ON AMMO on a forum. Do you believe I have the right to prepare to defend myself, to bear arms?

If they knock on my door I will answer, for I have done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide (not like I emailed classified government documents on my IPhone or anything).

Guest 04-12-2016 07:46 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211491)
You don't have to get defensive with me. Just a friendly tip to prepare yourself for the inevitable knock on the door - or battering ram. Quien no sabe?

He hasn't said anything on here that warrants a knock on the door. Scare tactics only work on liberal sissies that need a gov nanny to protect them. PC is not yet law, so the 1st Amendment is still valid.

Guest 04-12-2016 08:06 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211491)
You don't have to get defensive with me. Just a friendly tip to prepare yourself for the inevitable knock on the door - or battering ram. Quien no sabe?

So, that's the nation we've become? Are you happy about that? So little could get your door broken down?

Guest 04-12-2016 08:16 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211450)
Warren Buffet will vote for Hillary because she opposes the Keystone Pipeline. By doing so she will ensure that his railroad, the Burlington Northern Santa Fe will continue to transport the oil by rail, therby, continuing to line good old Warren's pockets.

Mr. Ammo's quote was 52% of the people will vote for Hillary, because they are on government dole. He is saying Buffet will vote for Hillary, because he is receiving social security checks from the government, and doesn't want to lose the money. And you think that is a sane comment? You danced away from his comment, and gave an alternative reason why Buffet will vote for Hillary.

A majority of people receiving social security, and Medicare checks vote Republican. I have say this a number of times, "figures lie, and liars figure".

When you don't get into the detail that makes up the numbers, you will be misled. Take a look at the person that is throwing out the numbers. Do they have political agenda? In this political climate, every candidate, and news outlet has a political agenda. You can't believe a damn thing any Republican, Democrat, or news outlet has to say.

55% of people said that they received money from a government program in their lifetime. 45% said they never received anything for the government. I was in the 45% until I retired, and start receiving SS, and Medicare. Many of the 55% received checks for a short period of time.

52% of the 55% are still receiving money. That doesn't make any sense. Unemployed people received government checks, and probably food stamps, when they were unemployed. As soon as they got a job, those benefits probably disappeared.

Guest 04-12-2016 08:25 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211491)
You don't have to get defensive with me. Just a friendly tip to prepare yourself for the inevitable knock on the door - or battering ram. Quien no sabe?

It must be very stressful being a liberal, living in a world of fear and paranoia.

Guest 04-12-2016 08:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211495)
Yes I am aware that SS recipients is included in the 52% and those checks will stop coming when Hillary bankrupts the country too. Social Security Disability claims escalated during the recession...

The key word in your 1% claim is "only", so they work 20 hours in a year and now welfare is not their only source of income...

If you think that 52% is nothing to be concerned with, just go about your day.

But I am STOCKING UP ON AMMO!

What programs are Hillary going to institute, that will bankrupt the country? The Republicans in Congress won't do anything to stop these programs! Come on man! You continue to make statements of fact, that are just plain nonsense.

A person works 20 hours a year, so they aren't included in the 1%. People had a yard sale, and made $10., so welfare isn't their only source of income. So, they aren't included in the 1%.

The 52% is exaggerated to fit someone's political agenda. What I am concerned about is the parties are so far apart that nothing is getting done. The country is not going to go bankrupt. Get my man Kasich in there, and things will get better. The parties will begin to talk to each other. Compromise will no longer be a swear word.

Guest 04-12-2016 08:38 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211546)
It must be very stressful being a liberal, living in a world of fear and paranoia.

And why do you need the ammo? Who do you suppose will attack you?

Guest 04-12-2016 08:47 AM

Who Would Have Thunk It?
 
I have read all of the posts on this thread and in my view perhaps one of the most important aspects of why a president and a law professor allegedly well schooled in the US Constitution took it upon himself to publicly speak out about an investigation underway in one of the his federal agencies.

He is signaling to the FBI that he does not want Hillary prosecuted meaning his Department of Justice will not prosecute Hillary irrespective of the FBI's supporting evidence and conclusion.

His pattern of saying one thing and acting in the opposite manner is replete with examples from before 2008 and to present day.

If you look at his foreign and economic policies he is so wrapped up in his ideology that he rather fail then admit he is wrong.

From President Clinton to present day has provided an open window as to why a presidential candidate must have military service listed on their resume' Because Clinton, Bush and Obama have failed miserably along these lines and it is costing us dearly.

Finally let me say that when growing up the threat of communist take over of America was evident and addressed.

Who would have ever believed that a strong possibility of a communist take over is in the making by way of the American Democrat Party. And like Hillary many Americans simply resemble bubble heads bubbling at the communist propaganda being spewed by Hillary and Sanders.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 04-12-2016 08:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211557)
I have read all of the posts on this thread and in my view perhaps one of the most important aspects of why a president and a law professor allegedly well schooled in the US Constitution took it upon himself to publicly speak out about an investigation underway in one of the his federal agencies.

He is signaling to the FBI that he does not want Hillary prosecuted meaning his Department of Justice will not prosecute Hillary irrespective of the FBI's supporting evidence and conclusion.

His pattern of saying one thing and acting in the opposite manner is replete with examples from before 2008 and to present day.

If you look at his foreign and economic policies he is so wrapped up in his ideology that he rather fail then admit he is wrong.

From President Clinton to present day has provided an open window as to why a presidential candidate must have military service listed on their resume' Because Clinton, Bush and Obama have failed miserably along these lines and it is costing us dearly.

Finally let me say that when growing up the threat of communist take over of America was evident and addressed.

Who would have ever believed that a strong possibility of a communist take over is in the making by way of the American Democrat Party. And like Hillary many Americans simply resemble bubble heads bubbling at the communist propaganda being spewed by Hillary and Sanders.

Personal Best Regards:

McCarthy era?

Guest 04-12-2016 08:59 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211553)
And why do you need the ammo? Who do you suppose will attack you?

I never said that I needed to stock up on any ammo. But, if I felt a need to purchase some, I wouldn't be paranoid and live in fear that some government agency would raid my home. It must be difficult living with a persecution complex.

Guest 04-12-2016 09:06 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211542)
Mr. Ammo's quote was 52% of the people will vote for Hillary, because they are on government dole. He is saying Buffet will vote for Hillary, because he is receiving social security checks from the government, and doesn't want to lose the money.

See post #20, and if you don't think they are voting for Hillary for the Government Assistance she has promised, you must think they are voting for her because of her stellar job as Sec of State...HA!

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211542)
A majority of people receiving social security, and Medicare checks vote Republican. I have say this a number of times, "figures lie, and liars figure".

When you don't get into the detail that makes up the numbers, you will be misled. Take a look at the person that is throwing out the numbers. Do they have political agenda? In this political climate, every candidate, and news outlet has a political agenda. You can't believe a damn thing any Republican, Democrat, or news outlet has to say.

Absolutely you have an agenda when you throw out the numbers you do!


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Posted by Guest (Post 1211542)
55% of people said that they received money from a government program in their lifetime. 45% said they never received anything for the government. I was in the 45% until I retired, and start receiving SS, and Medicare. Many of the 55% received checks for a short period of time.

52% of the 55% are still receiving money. That doesn't make any sense. Unemployed people received government checks, and probably food stamps, when they were unemployed. As soon as they got a job, those benefits probably disappeared.

Lot of numbers there, and then it all comes down to "as soon as they get a job"...Why would they want to do that???

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Guest 04-12-2016 09:08 AM

Go back to Idaho.

Guest 04-12-2016 09:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211563)
I never said that I needed to stock up on any ammo. But, if I felt a need to purchase some, I wouldn't be paranoid and live in fear that some government agency would raid my home. It must be difficult living with a persecution complex.

That doesn't answer my question.

Guest 04-12-2016 09:13 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211445)
And what do you imagine the ammo is for? Who scares you?

Those people that have gained a sense of entitlement from the handouts they have been given for generations might get desperate when the country is broke and unable to extend the debt any further. I am not scared of anyone in particular, but prefer to be ready if needed (rather than to be sorry and suckin hind tit).

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Guest 04-12-2016 09:16 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1211557)
I have read all of the posts on this thread and in my view perhaps one of the most important aspects of why a president and a law professor allegedly well schooled in the US Constitution took it upon himself to publicly speak out about an investigation underway in one of the his federal agencies.

He is signaling to the FBI that he does not want Hillary prosecuted meaning his Department of Justice will not prosecute Hillary irrespective of the FBI's supporting evidence and conclusion.

His pattern of saying one thing and acting in the opposite manner is replete with examples from before 2008 and to present day.

If you look at his foreign and economic policies he is so wrapped up in his ideology that he rather fail then admit he is wrong.

From President Clinton to present day has provided an open window as to why a presidential candidate must have military service listed on their resume' Because Clinton, Bush and Obama have failed miserably along these lines and it is costing us dearly.

Finally let me say that when growing up the threat of communist take over of America was evident and addressed.

Who would have ever believed that a strong possibility of a communist take over is in the making by way of the American Democrat Party. And like Hillary many Americans simply resemble bubble heads bubbling at the communist propaganda being spewed by Hillary and Sanders.

Personal Best Regards:

You REALLY think that HE is the guy running the free world? The nation? Even the White House? Hell no. He's a talking head like they've all been for a long long time. Others SET the policy, sure, he agrees with it...most of it...and can therefore seem enthusiastic. He just may be gay, that's why he's so enthusiastically pushed for gay issues. He's an actor. The .gov spokesperson.

Who is president, who gets elected, just changes some of the names of the corporations making money off the taxpayer. Social issues are the only real difference between the D and R party. The money keeps being spent. They live like Gods and you pay for it by giving them half of your labor.

About half the cost of everything is taxes. Think about it. The mining operation and equipment, the land, the ore, the fuel used, is all taxed. The railroad who ships the ore to the steel mill is taxed, the business, the train, the operators, fuel. The steel mill is taxed, the equipment, workers, corporation that owns it. The manufacturer who works the metal into a product is taxed, his equipment, his workers. The truckers were taxed who moved everything around, their truck was taxed, the fuel, their company. The store who sold it was taxed, the building, the business itself, the merchandise when bought. Each pays about 10% the cost of the item in taxes, 10% gets added to the price in the chain because of taxes.

We pay enough in taxes, AND they borrow $1 trillion every year, they live like royalty. They don't LEAD us, they DECEIVE us. And we're so stupid we "elect" them again and again, to rob us. Because they've convinced us, the "other guy" is even worse.

Ignorant rabble, the lot of you. All the Ds and Rs. You vote for "the lesser of two evils" and then complain when you're taken advantage of? Duh! STOP voting for ANY D or R, if we can stick together, we can win. Otherwise, it'll be meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Same as it ever was. Nothing good will happen.

Guest 04-12-2016 09:44 AM

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I have read all of the posts on this thread and in my view perhaps one of the most important aspects of why a president and a law professor allegedly well schooled in the US Constitution took it upon himself to publicly speak out about an investigation underway in one of the his federal agencies.

He is signaling to the FBI that he does not want Hillary prosecuted meaning his Department of Justice will not prosecute Hillary irrespective of the FBI's supporting evidence and conclusion.

His pattern of saying one thing and acting in the opposite manner is replete with examples from before 2008 and to present day.

If you look at his foreign and economic policies he is so wrapped up in his ideology that he rather fail then admit he is wrong.

From President Clinton to present day has provided an open window as to why a presidential candidate must have military service listed on their resume' Because Clinton, Bush and Obama have failed miserably along these lines and it is costing us dearly.

Finally let me say that when growing up the threat of communist take over of America was evident and addressed.

Who would have ever believed that a strong possibility of a communist take over is in the making by way of the American Democrat Party. And like Hillary many Americans simply resemble bubble heads bubbling at the communist propaganda being spewed by Hillary and Sanders.

Personal Best Regards:

Obama has admitted that he was wrong in Libya.
Obama Admits Haphazard U.S. Intervention in Libya 'Worst Mistake' of His Presidency - Hit & Run : Reason.com

What Obama is saying is you have to have a plan for the day after.
You might not need military experience, but you better have a plan for your military intervention after it is started.

The idea that any president could have the power to make this country a communist country is beyond stupid. To try to convince a Republican with this type of thinking is a waste of time, because they have cement between their ears.

Guest 04-12-2016 10:06 AM

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You REALLY think that HE is the guy running the free world? The nation? Even the White House? Hell no. He's a talking head like they've all been for a long long time. Others SET the policy, sure, he agrees with it...most of it...and can therefore seem enthusiastic. He just may be gay, that's why he's so enthusiastically pushed for gay issues. He's an actor. The .gov spokesperson.

Who is president, who gets elected, just changes some of the names of the corporations making money off the taxpayer. Social issues are the only real difference between the D and R party. The money keeps being spent. They live like Gods and you pay for it by giving them half of your labor.

About half the cost of everything is taxes. Think about it. The mining operation and equipment, the land, the ore, the fuel used, is all taxed. The railroad who ships the ore to the steel mill is taxed, the business, the train, the operators, fuel. The steel mill is taxed, the equipment, workers, corporation that owns it. The manufacturer who works the metal into a product is taxed, his equipment, his workers. The truckers were taxed who moved everything around, their truck was taxed, the fuel, their company. The store who sold it was taxed, the building, the business itself, the merchandise when bought. Each pays about 10% the cost of the item in taxes, 10% gets added to the price in the chain because of taxes.

We pay enough in taxes, AND they borrow $1 trillion every year, they live like royalty. They don't LEAD us, they DECEIVE us. And we're so stupid we "elect" them again and again, to rob us. Because they've convinced us, the "other guy" is even worse.

Ignorant rabble, the lot of you. All the Ds and Rs. You vote for "the lesser of two evils" and then complain when you're taken advantage of? Duh! STOP voting for ANY D or R, if we can stick together, we can win. Otherwise, it'll be meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Same as it ever was. Nothing good will happen.

No, one half of everything isn't taxes.
How do US taxes compare internationally? | Tax Policy Center

Right now, you have dueling banjos. Republicans want to cut social programs. Democrat want to reform the tax code to pay for social programs. In plain English, they want to increase taxes to pay for social programs. No one is budging. So, we are on road to nowhere.

Stick together and do what? not vote! What the hell does that accomplish?
Vote for a Tea Party person, or whatever they are calling themselves now. People that do not want to govern, and just want to make a lot of unless noise. That will certainly turn the country around.

Guest 04-12-2016 10:34 AM

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That's great link.
Where did the middle class go?
Goodbye Middle Class: 51 Percent Of All American Workers Make Less Than 30,000 Dollars A Year Washington's Blog


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