Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1212710)

Way too early to say what measures will be taken to avoid such issues. Although I'm confidant measures will be taken...if necessary.

But I'm not sure any unusual measures will be needed. I don't see where trucks would be coming from that they would want to take Morse to 441? If they're from 301, why wouldn't they stay on 301? If there from the turnpike, they have an interchange at 441 already? Am I missing something?

Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1212713)

South bound trucks could take the new exit...Also, truckers not familiar with the area may take the new exit.

Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1212703)

Yes, I had all of these concerns when this was first announced over a year ago, then saw that the extension was for Morse and not Buena Vista. But is any case your concerns are valid. Large trucks cannot stay in one lane on the roundabouts, and can you imagine them yielding to a car in the left lane making a right turn (after going 3/4 around the roundabout)? I had not thought about the short cut aspect or the possible wear and tear to the bridge. A LOCAL DELIVERIES ONLY sign would be a good idea, IF it would be enforced......

Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1212724)

Why, with an interchange with 441 just a short way ahead?

And truckers taking wrong exits won't be truckers for long.

Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 1212765)

I believe the closest 441/Turnpike interchange is near the Florida Mall in Orlando.

Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1212694)

Thinking about the new 468 interchange and widening of 468 into a 4 lane divided highway. Will any size truck use this as a shortcut to 27/441 ? What will this do to Morse Blvd. and it's adjacent Villages ? What about the roundabouts ? What about these trucks crossing over the Lake Sumter Bridge onto northern Morse Blvd. ? Not to mention the additional hundreds/thousands of cars per day coming off the turnpike that now use the 301 exit. Will living in the Morse Blvd. area become a traffic and safety nightmare ? :22yikes:

Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 1212845)

Maybe there will be a "truck route" around The Villages.

Originally Posted by GaryW (Post 1212791)

WOW nothing like worrying about spilled milk before it is put in the carton or jug:throwtomatoes:

There always has been truck and heavy car traffic on 468, CR-501 and the 301 468 area. Nothing will change that. The Villages can not control State and CR usage. No need to fret over what might and will be. I am sure a lot of vehicles will use any interchange off the turnpike to 44 and 301. Trucks delivering to Leesburg will most likely continue to use 470 interchange depending on where they deliver. I am sure they will come in on new one also.

Heck I do not worry about big trucks at the round-a-bouts. I worry more about regular motorist who do not know how to drive in them. Big trucks just stay away and give room. Wether it be a 48 or 53 foot trailer, got to give them big rigs room.

Just sayin

Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 1212845)

Maybe there will be a "truck route" around The Villages.

Originally Posted by Harry Gilbert (Post 1213070)

It will all come down to what route the truckers GPS takes. Local drivers will know the area and where to avoid but non local truckers will follow their GPS

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1214510)

Not to be nitpicky, but it's US 301 and has been since I can remember. All through the 60's before I-95 and I-4 were built, it was our main road from Tampa to Baltimore. It now starts in Sarasota and in Maryland it crosses the Chesapeake Bay Bridge bypassing Baltimore and ends in Delaware, 1100 miles from it's start.



So for one thing, it won't have the nationwide prestige of US 301. I don't see a big need for truckers to get off in this area when you have a large truck stop at the SR44 and I-75 exit, most likely they would want to hit that first. If going to Leesburg and points south such as Clermont or Winter Garden, they have turnpike exits already. If going to Ocala there is exits already. Local deliveries I believe would continue to take US 301 if going north or south. If going east, they may take the new exit but if they have concerns, they could easily post signs at the Morse entrance on 44 with weight limits or axel limits. I think we should give the designers time to figure things out.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1212865)

I always listen to every WORD this poster has to say. He is fair, smart, and has a lot of knowledge about the workings of this place. I wish he was running for president.

Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1212694)

Thinking about the new 468 interchange and widening of 468 into a 4 lane divided highway. Will any size truck use this as a shortcut to 27/441 ? What will this do to Morse Blvd. and it's adjacent Villages ? What about the roundabouts ? What about these trucks crossing over the Lake Sumter Bridge onto northern Morse Blvd. ? Not to mention the additional hundreds/thousands of cars per day coming off the turnpike that now use the 301 exit. Will living in the Morse Blvd. area become a traffic and safety nightmare ? :22yikes:

Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 1214705)

If I were coming from Orlando and trying to get to the Home Depot in Lady Lake (or any other store in that area), I would take the new interchange and follow Morse north until 466A, take a right and go to Micro Racetrack and then continue on to Home Depot. Despite the roundabouts and 35 MPH speed limit, I expect it to be a lot faster than dealing with all the traffic lights up 27/441 which is likely the current best route. If I would do this to save time, why wouldn't a trucker for whom time is money?

Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 1214705)

If I were coming from Orlando and trying to get to the Home Depot in Lady Lake (or any other store in that area), I would take the new interchange and follow Morse north until 466A, take a right and go to Micro Racetrack and then continue on to Home Depot. Despite the roundabouts and 35 MPH speed limit, I expect it to be a lot faster than dealing with all the traffic lights up 27/441 which is likely the current best route. If I would do this to save time, why wouldn't a trucker for whom time is money?

Originally Posted by looneycat (Post 1214576)

to me it seems ridiculous to worry about a nonissue. i am not about to sprout another grey hair (although i could use as many as i could get) over a problem that doesn't exist and would be a logistic nightmare for any trucker foolish enough to use this 'shortcut'.

Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1214710)

Not only will Home Depot shoppers do this, anyone living south of Sumter Landing will take it to get home. North and west homeowners will take Morse to Stillwater to points north including all the shopping west of Buena Vista on 466.
Morse will be the primary feeder for south of Sumter Landing heading north off the turnpike. Not a bad thing, especially for the "traffic" on Buena Vista south of LSL. I remember when Hillborough Trail was nothing but construction vehicles, now most times it's an effort to turn left onto it. Busier then Pinellas in fact. Just wait till Labelle, Osceola & Pine Hills are built out. Brownwood will be their destination, the smart ones will take 44, not Hillsborough.

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1214742)

I would like to place a sign at the east end of Hillsborough Trail that says " Not a Thru Street". Or, have signs suggesting everyone should use 44 "Brownwood this way ->". :icon_wink:

Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 1214705)

If I were coming from Orlando and trying to get to the Home Depot in Lady Lake (or any other store in that area), I would take the new interchange and follow Morse north until 466A, take a right and go to Micro Racetrack and then continue on to Home Depot. Despite the roundabouts and 35 MPH speed limit, I expect it to be a lot faster than dealing with all the traffic lights up 27/441 which is likely the current best route. If I would do this to save time, why wouldn't a trucker for whom time is money?

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1214742)

I would like to place a sign at the east end of Hillsborough Trail that says " Not a Thru Street". Or, have signs suggesting everyone should use 44 "Brownwood this way ->". :icon_wink:

Originally Posted by GaryW (Post 1214752)

Not sure why one would be going from Orlando to a Home Depot in Lady Lake??

Truckers know that a straighter line is not always the fastest in the west. You might have a few that try not knowing, but once will be enough for them.

Originally Posted by GaryW (Post 1214754)

All construction subs have been warned not to use the gate at Hillsborough and Buena Vista. But with that being said, as long as you have construction going on off of Hillsborough, you will get traffic.

Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1214710)

Not only will Home Depot shoppers do this, anyone living south of Sumter Landing will take it to get home. North and west homeowners will take Morse to Stillwater to points north including all the shopping west of Buena Vista on 466.
Morse will be the primary feeder for south of Sumter Landing heading north off the turnpike. Not a bad thing, especially for the "traffic" on Buena Vista south of LSL. I remember when Hillborough Trail was nothing but construction vehicles, now most times it's an effort to turn left onto it. Busier then Pinellas in fact. Just wait till Labelle, Osceola & Pine Hills are built out. Brownwood will be their destination, the smart ones will take 44, not Hillsborough.

Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 1214768)

I would assume that much of what ends up on the shelves in that shopping corridor comes from the south up the turnpike.

Your second statement is precisely my point. The straightest line from the turnpike to that area would be up 27/441. However, that route is littered with traffic lights. Slowing to 20 MPH to navigate a roundabout beats sitting at light after light for a minute at a time.

Originally Posted by GaryW (Post 1214784)

Most of the stuff on the shelf's comes from the north and the midwest on large trucks. Not sure on the thought about navigating round-s-bouts beats lights. If you have never driven a Large Car, Rooster Crusin, Chicken Truck, then you will understand one will do anything to stay away from round-a-bouts and the traffic.

Most of these cats that deliver to these stores around here are local drivers and already know the way of the road. Just like Fedex or Ups drivers, they know which routes to avoid.
Local deliveries such as Publix,, Winn-Dixie I am sure the trucks servicing those stores will use Morse and BV to 466a when delivering. Publix has stores all over, so they go every which away.

Every now and then you also get bed buggers, I mean trucks delivering household goods for people that are moving from the north or what have you to The Villages driving thru here, but that is expected.

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1214775)

Many will use Hillsborough if my signs don't work! :a040:
Car and golf cart traffic is heavy at times. Not so much after 9 P.M.