VA governor allows 200,000 felons to vote!?!?!!!??
 

Clinton jumps right in and compliments him for removing obstacles prohiting voters ability to do so.

I didn't know it was an obstacle. I thought it was part of the punishment. You remember? Taking away privledges reserve for the law abiding.

Removing obstacles in front of voters!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

How many democrats are proud of this move. Or doesn't it matter anymore as long as it benefits the party.

Watering down, dumbing down, de-moralizing, permissiveness rules as long as the party benefits.

The Cigar Exchange Wilmington, NC

Anybody that does not think America is headed in the wrong direction either has their head up their orifice or is a party fanatic.

As stated by their illustrious felony leader.....WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

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How about a wild guess?
If it involves millions of felons/ex-felons what would be the guess who comprises the most of these?

Hint: these folks make up the highest percent of the prison population!!

And if they were allowed to vote again, how do you think they would vote?

A couple of more hints? Clinton is all for it! (what the hell she is one too)

Eric Holder was a proponent of getting the laws changed.

Seems to be a pattern emerging....all too familiar pattern.

MAP: States Where Felons Can’t Vote | The Lowdown | KQED News

This directive will allow former republican governor Bob McDonnell to vote again as soon as he completes his sentence and is released from prison. Evidently, posters think he should never vote again and gave up his rights when he was found guilty by a jury of his peers.

I believe that you would find that Republicans would agree that Bob McDonnell should not be allowed to vote again . He forfeited that right when he became a Felon .

So now please explain to us why convicted Felons should be allowed to vote and help out your Party`s nominees !

You really should look at the states that have the toughest laws against current, and former felons being allowed to vote. 3.4 million of the 6 million come from 10 states. Virginia is one of them. All the rest are Republican strongholds. What the hell if you are going to have strict voter id laws, you might as well have strict laws against former felons being allowed to vote.

40 states allow former felons to vote. When one of the ten tries to join the majority, they are only doing it for political reasons. However, Republicans in Virginia trying to stop their Democrat governor from allowing former felons from voting, they don't have any political motive in doing so. Hell no! The Republicans are way above that.

Is talking out of both sides of your mouth at the same time a requirement for all Republicans running for political office?

If a non-violent felon has served his/her sentence, why shouldn't they be allowed to vote?

Correction, there are 11 states. Delaware is a little hard to see.

39 states allow convicted felons that have served their time to vote. Flip that coin. Why hasn't Virginia joined the other 39 states that allow convicted felons that have served their time to vote?

Get off your pedicle. The harshest voter id laws are in Republican control states. That doesn't help their nominee. Gerrymandering in states doesn't help people from their party running for Congress. A level playing field is the last thing either party wants.

What is the asinine reason that someone who has a felony cant vote? I cant wait to hear a valid reason....not going to hold my breath however.

Oh, and I firmly beleive that you should have to be a property owner, business owner or make equal or greater than your local median income to vote. Too many people with no skin in the game voting. No issue with felons voting however if they meet the criteria.

I can't say I like the reason (getting more Democratic voters) but I do believe that felons who have done their time and successfully completed their parole shouldn't continue to be punished. They've been punished (probation or jail and frequently parole). Why should the punishment continue for the rest of their lives? Let them vote, let them hold government jobs, give them the same rights as any other citizen. They pay taxes just like the rest of us. They did the crime and paid the time.

In the far majority of States a Felon once released can never again own or poses a gun . So you are for restoring their right to full citizenship including the right to vote and apparently also own and poses firearms ?

You don't have to hold your breath on our account.

All you need to do is google why felons can't vote and get educated.

There was and still is good reason for them not to be allowed......at least until the Dems turned it into a political crap storm in the name of getting more votes.

There is definitely a pattern;
Allowing illegal aliens in by the millions to get more voters.
Allowing felons to vote.
Eliminating voter id.
Doesn't take an Einstein to figure out the agenda.

This bit of news is not a surprise given Terry Mc Auliffe , Governor of Virginia history. He was chair for Bill Clinton's reelection campaign, chair for the DNC for five years and Chair for Hillary's 2008 campaign. As stories abound about the Clinton illicit political machine you can add Mc Auliffe as one of their co-conspirators. So given the allegation of illegal activity of the aforementioned it not a surprise they are for allowing felons to vote.

Vote fraud despite what progressive say abounds now. It can be stopped or at least drastically reduced but politics stand in the way. Felons coming in a variety of ways and one must differentiate a career criminal to one who committed a crime of passion, etc the latter likely to never offend again
Perhaps the government should employ some of these felons to help them sort out the ways law abiding citizens rig the voting system to favor their candidate?

Personal Best Regards

If they were convicted of a non-violent, non-drug related crime, I would say yes to their being allowed to own a weapon for protection. There has to be some common sense in returning full rights to felons but to totally disenfranchise them the way many states do is one of the reasons recidivism is so high in this country. People make mistakes. Young people do foolish things. People change as they mature. So, if they successfully complete their sentence, yes, let them vote, let them find real jobs if they have the skills and, depending on the conviction, let them carry a weapon if they have the need. As I said previously, they did their time.

Red

Exactly. What is funny - many are not liberals at all....not even close (even if they were before they got "in the system")

You don't have to hold your breath on our account.

All you need to do is google why felons can't vote and get educated. - I would consider myself a graduate of Kindergarten


There is definitely a pattern; Yes, of ignorance in people who make assumptions based on opinions
Allowing illegal aliens in by the millions to get more voters.absolutely correct. However, CONSTITUTIONALLY an illegal alien SHOULD BE THROWN OUT, even arrested at a voting place for trying to commit another crime (illegal voting)
Allowing felons to vote. This is where you make ZERO sense and have nothing to back your opine
Eliminating voter id. Two way street. "Voter ID" should be a property deed and or proof of employment
Doesn't take an Einstein to figure out the agenda. Also does not take Ienstien to understand that some of your premises are patently false. I know the fact is that what you are "really" saying is that "Black people should not vote" (partly because most are liberal under-educated criminals, partly because you figure if someone is a felon they must be a black liberal)

There appear to be only 3 states that permanently disenfranchise a felon.

The other states will allow felons to vote either upon release from prison or when their parole is over.

Because that is what you said not me

I hope you have not passed your genes on to future generations. Your posts show you are definitely in the shallow end of the gene pool and you would be having reverse evolution if you had offspring. Have a banana and stop posting.

Key word "felons." Most felons don't go to jail until they have been arrested at least three or four times. But, the word "felon" should be a no brainer. A felon may have served his time, his punishment but does that mean that his ability to make good choices or reason as normal folks has improved? The reason he loses his rights is because of his mental ability to reason normally is impaired in some manner, where his judgement cannot be trusted. If a pedophile has served his sentence, would you ask him to babysit for you?

"Most", ahhh, such a typical word word for the uninformed to use.


Babysit? What would you prefer? Martha Stewart to watch your grandkids or Tyree from the projects who has never had a job and yet to be arrested for many felonies?

Hint: One is a felon, one is not.

Maybe just maybe if the term "Class A" or "Violent" was added, but in some states a Felony is smacking your kids ass in a room with a gun safe...

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Oh, and I firmly beleive that you should have to be a property owner, business owner or make equal or greater than your local median income to vote. Too many people with no skin in the game voting. No issue with felons voting however if they meet the criteria.


Actually, it is "you" the liberal at the shallow end of the gene pool...that's why you're always fighting to "equalize" everything, fighting for quotas, affirmative action. Because "you" DON'T have the intellectual wherewithal to make it WITHOUT that "extra help". Am I right?

Speaking of reverse evolution. You're erasing 50,000 years of evolution. Like decades of careful breeding for the "perfect rose", only to have some fool backcross it too far back. Destroying all that careful work. YOU are condoning the reverse evolution.

A banana? A strange reference. What eats bananas?

I mostly agree with the post you commented on. People who can't run their own life without assistance, shouldn't be telling others how they should live their lives. If you want a say in things, you produce more than you take.

Only 3 states permanently disenfranchise felons. Get over it.

Neither one of them. I live in a world of choice until the commies take over. You have a very racist view and I am surprised and horrified at your racist choice of name. Not very liberal of you.

"Babysit? What would you prefer? Martha Stewart to watch your grandkids or Tyree from the projects who has never had a job and yet to be arrested for many felonies?

Hint: One is a felon, one is not. "



You live in a world of choice? You think so? How about your "choice" for president? Your "choice" is going to be between two HAND SELECTED "candidates" who will proceed to rob the public blind. If Trump gets elected, he too will initiate all kinds of programs to "fix things". Lots of money will be spent "fixing things".

A racist view? If YOU could pick just one, you'd pick Martha, I KNOW you would, and you should. It's a much smarter decision than Laquisha or whatever her name is.

That is the problem now. Mothers are working and they ARE picking Laquanda to raise their children in "daycare". Who's values do you think these kids are learning? Not yours...hers. You want to know why kids are screwed up, no respect, no common sense? Laquanda raised them. 10 hours a day, SHE was there, either ignoring them, or "teaching" them.

Minority kids already outnumber white kids in public school registrations. A new baby boom is coming, it will change everything, and not for the better. YOU let this happen. "You arrogant *******, you killed us". It's from Red Oktober I think. You killed "us" by foolishly propping "them" up. I weep for the grandchildren.

You seem to fail to understand the criteria in the question at hand. I can from that presume that your spouse was the one with the intellect to earn a place in TV. That said, come on now...answer the question. One or the other...who gets to baby sit your grandkids? Martha? Tyree? Two options...now, pick the Felon or what you presume is a black guy....


(What is wrong with the name Tyree? It is not like his name is "Marijuana Pepsi Cola Jackson" - yes, that is a real womans name)

I wonder where Oliver North fits into this conversation.

You're kidding, right? Only a liberal is so stupid to stipulate a ridiculous scenario as yours. If given a limit of your two choices, I would babysit them myself. There, how does that sit with your scheme?

If not for us conservatives, you liberals would not even exist. Someone has to babysit you from yourselves. Someone has to protect you from yourselves. It's you that wish to live in our world, not the other way around. So, go ahead with your fantasy football type Utopia of make believe, while the rest of us try to protect you from yourselves.

And you didn't fool anyone with your racist name that you inadvertently, but subconsciously used. WE KNOW what you meant.

Martha Stewart? I wouldn't give her the time of day, let alone allow her near my family.

So, go back to your defensive driving of the community forum, but try not to sabotage your own comments by revealing the REAL racist, YOU.

Well CHI, other than a diversion I doubt he does fit in. What is your point? Or, do you have a point?

I believe the other liberal is trying to equivocate ex-Con voting with babysitting children. SO, feel free to inject Col. North into the equation.

What's ironic about this discussion of Virginia enactment of restoring rights to felons is that Texas has a substantial percentage (approx 45%) of felons who gain parole whereas Virginia is less than 3% who are granted parole. so the good news is they can vote the bad news is they will probably never get out of jail so won't be able to vote.

a felon by any other name.....Felon A a career criminal who continually gets arrested for robbery/burglary. given parole he/she is likely to offend again. Felon B is DUI kills some in a car accident gets 25 years without parole is now an old guy release who will never commit a crime again.....and what about the guy who was wrongly convicted in the first place.

what the amount of fraud going on now by so called responsible citizens I don't know that restoring felon's rights makes an appreciable difference.

By the way Mc Auliffe attended Bishop Ludden Junior/Senior High School which has an outstanding academic record. If Bishop Ludden was listed on a resume it was certain the applicant would be given an employment interview because those who graduated from Bishop Ludden went to some of the best colleges in the country

Felons vote? Why? They don't believe in other person's rights when they violate them, so why should we be concerned with their rights?

I am for three strikes and you're executed. If you are convicted of three felonies, that means that you have done a lot worst and have not been caught. If you are convicted three times, then you are useless and a threat to civil order. You have been given three chances and have decided that you wish to die, so we should accommodate your wish. No need to worry about voting in this case.

Your presumption could not be any further from the truth and had zero to do with Race . I was thinking about White Felons who would be returning to mostly rural communities in Northern States .

It just amazes me that you would jump to such a conclusion and be so self-righteous and so very smug about it .

Liberals are the real racists, and always have been. They ALWAYS assume that minorities are in need of assistance. They are looking down their noses at minorities. Conservatives believe that ALL should be treated the same, and let them fail or succeed according to their ability. Liberals don't believe anyone is able to succeed unless GIVEN assistance, but they are not the ones assisting. They want their betters to assist, regardless of whether their betters wants to or not. Liberals are racists because they do not feel that a minority can succeed without their assistance. They do not consider them equal.

And because this thread is about FELONS and voting, Liberals automatically resort to the race issue. Why? Because they consider all felons that are incarcerated to be minorities.

What would we do without Liberals? Probably live in a Villages like community, happily.

Liberals are Racists? Watch this.

Republicans would never allow a felon to babysit their children. They are much too smart for that. However, they have no problem with a child molester holding the third highest office in the country, speaker of the house, for the longest period in US history.

Are you kidding? IS that the best argument a liberal has, the past? Wow, can I bring up all kinds of liberal violators. Let's just name the most popular LEADER and his sexploits and how his wife feels about it. Or does she?

You are finally right on something. I would bet that you wouldn't let a felon babysit for you either. But, go ahead and act all liberal and indignant. We've got your number, and it is all odd numbers.

So, it is just Liberal states that allow felons to vote after being released from prison and completing their parole and probation?

There are only 3 states that do not allow felons to vote after completing parole and probation.

Maine even allows prisoners to vote - and they have a very conservative governor.

Texas allows the voting by felons - ask Lyin' Ted Cruz about that! Texas never had a liberal governor.

Did you know about the Speaker`s past history when he was in office ? No you did not . None of us did . Also he was from a very Liberal State was he not ?
You are trying to state that those on the Right knew all about this man`s immoral and illegal past behavior . You are trying to say that those on the Right not only were aware of his history but strongly supported him .

You know that what you are trying to say and blame Republican`s for is not true and could not be further from the truth . Same as the story with Anthony Weiner .
No Republican has ever posted on this site finger pointing at Dems and alleging that Dems were fully aware of Weiner`s misbehavior but continued to support and enable him .
The only Dems who apparently have no serious issues with Weiner`s behavior are Huma , HRC , and Slick Willie !

If we had a decent judicial system, we wouldn't have to worry about Felons voting rights. They would either stay in jail where they belong or be executed like they should be if they are recurrent offenders. Save the taxpayer some money and aggravation.