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CatskillBill 04-29-2016 07:42 AM

Is reclaimed water safe for a vegetable garden?
 
How tainted with chemicals is the reclaimed water? Do you think it's safe if you water your vegetable plants with it?

KayakerNC 04-29-2016 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CatskillBill (Post 1219099)
How tainted with chemicals is the reclaimed water? Do you think it's safe if you water your vegetable plants with it?

Have you considered a rain barrel to collect water for your veggies?

graciegirl 04-29-2016 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CatskillBill (Post 1219099)
How tainted with chemicals is the reclaimed water? Do you think it's safe if you water your vegetable plants with it?

I was under the impression that it was from the retention ponds. Animals live in the retention ponds.

joec3 04-29-2016 10:02 AM

Home Irrigation:
•North of CR 466, homes are irrigated with potable water.
•South of CR 466, homes are irrigated with non-potable water which is comprised of storm water runoff that is collected in water retention areas and groundwater from the lower Floridan aquifer when storm water supplies are not available.

Golf Course Irrigation:
•North of CR 466, golf courses are irrigated with a combination of reclaimed wastewater, storm water runoff that is collected in water retention areas, and groundwater (some upper Floridan and some Lower Floridan, depending on the specific course).
•South of CR 466 all golf courses are irrigated with a combination of reclaimed wastewater and lower Floridan groundwater.

Chi-Town 04-29-2016 10:02 AM

From Wikipedia:

Reclaimed water or recycled water is former wastewater (sewage) that is treated to remove solids and impurities, and used in sustainable landscaping irrigation.........

CatskillBill 04-29-2016 10:21 AM

I do have a rain barrel, but that's only good if it rains. We haven't had much lately.

I'm south of 466 so our irrigation water is reclaimed and not potable like it is north of 466. It sinks like heck, and I hate working on my sprinklers.

I'm wondering if that water would contaminate my veggies with the chemical runoff that comes off our lawns and golf courses?


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Originally Posted by KayakerNC (Post 1219106)
Have you considered a rain barrel to collect water for your veggies?


graciegirl 04-29-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CatskillBill (Post 1219214)
I do have a rain barrel, but that's only good if it rains. We haven't had much lately.

I'm south of 466 so our irrigation water is reclaimed and not potable like it is north of 466. It sinks like heck, and I hate working on my sprinklers.

I'm wondering if that water would contaminate my veggies with the chemical runoff that comes off our lawns and golf courses?

When it is hot and the water has been sitting in the pipes, tiny germy things are growing due to the heat and darkness and they are stinky. You don't notice it so much when the temperature isn't this hot...That doesn't mean it will harm your plants...as you see it doesn't harm the grass or bushes, but you aren't eating things from your grass and bushes. It is possible that the chemicals used on your lawn would affect your vegetables. Buy them at the store where they have probably used similar ones.

If you want to know more, go to the jailhouse on 466 near Morse and they have experts there on how things grow, they are from The University Agricultural Extension. My husband just got advice on our Holly Bushes being kinda not lovely.

borjo 04-29-2016 09:12 PM

I wish I could remember where I saw it but somewhere in TV literature it said to NOT use the irrigation water for gardens. I had my irrigation heads adjusted so my garden veggies would not get wet from the lawn irrigation. I use my garden hose to water each plant with a dribble every couple days. I've got some tiny tomatoes starting.

Addendum: It was in the deed restrictions in the irrigation section.

Sandtrap328 04-29-2016 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by borjo (Post 1219495)
I wish I could remember where I saw it but somewhere in TV literature it said to NOT use the irrigation water for gardens. I had my irrigation heads adjusted so my garden veggies would not get wet from the lawn irrigation. I use my garden hose to water each plant with a dribble every couple days. I've got some tiny tomatoes starting.

You have the best idea! The amount of water from your garden hose is not going to jack up your water bill and most likely is a lot safer than the reclaimed water. Good luck on the tomatoes- homegrown ones have great flavor compared to the cardboard taste of supermarket tomatoes.
:MOJE_whot:

Shimpy 04-30-2016 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by borjo (Post 1219495)
I wish I could remember where I saw it but somewhere in TV literature it said to NOT use the irrigation water for gardens.

I can only imagine what the veggies you buy in Publix, or Winn Dixie that came from Mexico or Peru are covered with.

kettlecove 05-01-2016 02:50 AM

I had an herb garden in a pre-owned home we bought. I emailed a similar question to the U if FL agricultural dept about eating herbs watered by non-potable water. The consensus from the U of FL was that they wouldn't eat them. They didn't have direct studies they could quote but they kicked the question around to colleagues for a few weeks and said they could not recommend eating the herbs.

Walter123 05-01-2016 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 1219917)
I can only imagine what the veggies you buy in Publix, or Winn Dixie that came from Mexico or Peru are covered with.

That is true. Kind of like going to a restaurant and not knowing what's going on in the kitchen we still eat out but, I wouldn't use irrigation water on something I was going to eat.

ColdNoMore 05-01-2016 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 1219917)
I can only imagine what the veggies you buy in Publix, or Winn Dixie that came from Mexico or Peru are covered with.

Exactly.

While I'm not an expert on the subject, I have also read that those 'organic' products that we pay more for are often fertilized with manure.

I would think that the bottom line is to always wash your veggies and fruits before consuming and not really worry about it (except for maybe lettuce, as mentioned in this article).

https://www.organicconsumers.org/old...tamination.php

graciegirl 05-01-2016 06:08 AM

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ColdNoMore 05-01-2016 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1220055)
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I've seen that done a few times now by a couple of different people and am wondering what it means?

asianthree 05-01-2016 06:19 AM

Our garden when I was a child we used cut up table scraps, coffe grounds, and cow manure for our vegetables garden. It was only half an acre, cause the chicken coop took up a good area. When we picked fruit from our orchards we just ate it. Times were different then. What kind of water does the locals use to raise their crops in the area?

graciegirl 05-01-2016 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1220057)
Our garden when I was a child we used cut up table scraps, coffe grounds, and cow manure for our vegetables garden. It was only half an acre, cause the chicken coop took up a good area. When we picked fruit from our orchards we just ate it. Times were different then. What kind of water does the locals use to raise their crops in the area?

Us too.

dbussone 05-01-2016 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1220056)
I've seen that done a few times now by a couple of different people and am wondering what it means?

When you write a post, but change your mind.

dbussone 05-01-2016 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1220083)
When you write a post, but change your mind.

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virgind 05-01-2016 09:01 AM

Didnt know vegetable gardens were allowed in TV. I guess I'm wrong. Does that also mean you need a fence around it to keep the rabbits out.

rubicon 05-01-2016 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1220109)
Didnt know vegetable gardens were allowed in TV. I guess I'm wrong. Does that also mean you need a fence around it to keep the rabbits out.

fences aren't allowed either. Need to talk to those in authority

ColdNoMore 05-01-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1220083)
When you write a post, but change your mind.

I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm not following.

It was done within a few minutes of the original post, so why not just go back and delete or edit it?

And if you've changed your mind, it seems to me you would want to explain what it was you changed your mind about.

Oh well, thanks for at least having the courtesy to answer. :)

bagboy 05-01-2016 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1220196)
I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm not following.

It was done within a few minutes of the original post, so why not just go back and delete or edit it?

And if you've changed your mind, it seems to me you would want to explain what it was you changed your mind about.

Oh well, thanks for at least having the courtesy to answer. :)

When someone edits their post, or wants to erase it, 3 letters/numbers/symbols must be entered for the edit to take place.

dbussone 05-01-2016 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1220196)
I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm not following.



It was done within a few minutes of the original post, so why not just go back and delete or edit it?



And if you've changed your mind, it seems to me you would want to explain what it was you changed your mind about.



Oh well, thanks for at least having the courtesy to answer. :)



Once you create a post you cannot delete it. The closest you can come to a deletion is to edit the post. The convention is to leave 3 marks of some kind after deleting what was originally written.

There is a method to leave an explanation if you wish, but few do that.

ColdNoMore 05-01-2016 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1220083)
When you write a post, but change your mind.

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1220202)
When someone edits their post, or wants to erase it, 3 letters/numbers/symbols must be entered for the edit to take place.

So you can't just delete the entire post (like if you wrote something you decided wasn't appropriate), you can only edit and you have to put three of something in there?

I have never heard of that, but at least I think I understand now.

Thank you. :)

ColdNoMore 05-01-2016 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1220205)
Once you create a post you cannot delete it. The closest you can come to a deletion is to edit the post. The convention is to leave 3 marks of some kind after deleting what was originally written.

There is a method to leave an explanation if you wish, but few do that.

Got it now.

Thank you. :)

dbussone 05-01-2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1220210)
So you can't just delete the entire post (like if you wrote something you decided wasn't appropriate), you can only edit and you have to put three of something in there?



I have never heard of that, but at least I think I understand now.



Thank you. :)



Correct

borjo 05-01-2016 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1220109)
Didnt know vegetable gardens were allowed in TV. I guess I'm wrong. Does that also mean you need a fence around it to keep the rabbits out.

I have a private area against a wall in my flower garden where I put a small raised bed. So far, no rabbits, herbs are growing like crazy.

BK001 05-01-2016 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1220213)
Correct

I too have wondered and assumed that eventually I would figure it out -- NOT.

Thanks for the explanation.

What about Bump -- does that mean the same thing?

Shimpy 05-01-2016 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BK001 (Post 1220296)
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What about Bump -- does that mean the same thing?

No.....bump only moves an old post to a new post to keep it alive.

There used to be a way to "delete" a post that we changed our mind about but not any more so the required 3 characters or symbols is taken care of by simply using ///. Actually any 3 symbols or characters will work.

dbussone 05-01-2016 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BK001 (Post 1220296)
I too have wondered and assumed that eventually I would figure it out -- NOT.



Thanks for the explanation.



What about Bump -- does that mean the same thing?



No. Bump is to move a post back toward the top of the post list. For example, if you want to move a post about a lost dog back into view to keep it fresh in folks' minds.

dbussone 05-01-2016 05:27 PM

Is reclaimed water safe for a vegetable garden?
 
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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1220301)
No. Bump is to move a post back toward the top of the post list. For example, if you want to move a post about a lost dog back into view to keep it fresh in folks' minds.



Bump. (Got it?)

ColdNoMore 05-01-2016 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1220301)
No. Bump is to move a post back toward the top of the post list. For example, if you want to move a post about a lost dog back into view to keep it fresh in folks' minds.

I've been on boards where you weren't allowed to bump threads or posts (I can certainly understand wanting to do it for a lost dog however), but haven't seen where it's not allowed here (I've been looking).

I guess with this system, a person could just post /// for the purpose of bumping it without anyone (except maybe the mods) knowing.

Anyway, thanks for the help. :)

Barefoot 05-01-2016 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1220210)
So you can't just delete the entire post; you can only edit and you have to put three of something in there?

Yes, you cannot delete a post anymore. You can delete the contents of the post, but you must use three symbols
(because that's a TOTV "rule"), e.g., *** $$$ ### %%%.


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Originally Posted by BK001 (Post 1220296)
What about Bump -- does that mean the same thing?

You can use "bump" or ttt (to the top) or any symbol at all (***).
It just means the post zooms to the top. Useful for lost pets.

wendyquat 05-01-2016 10:49 PM

We live south of 466. Honestly, I never gave using the irrigation water a thought until recently. I bought a new verbena hanging basket which hung on a low hanger where it could receive irrigation. The sprinkler provided water to that plant, the grass and one more nearby vine. I looked last week and the verbena and the vine looked like they had been sprayed with Roundup (they hadn't) on the side nearest the sprinkler. The verbena has since died and I trimmed the bad side from the vine. It just could not have been anything but whatever came out of that particular sprinkler head! Makes me think twice about what I water with the reclaimed water!

spring_chicken 05-02-2016 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1220056)
I've seen that done a few times now by a couple of different people and am wondering what it means?

It's pretty much a virtual bird (middle finger). They say wrote a post and changed their mind, but that's a pretty lame explanation since they could have just used the back button on the browser instead of hitting the post button, lol. Kind of like a secret handshake when you were in 6th grade.

ColdNoMore 05-02-2016 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1220467)
It's pretty much a virtual bird (middle finger). They say wrote a post and changed their mind, but that's a pretty lame explanation since they could have just used the back button on the browser instead of hitting the post button, lol. Kind of like a secret handshake when you were in 6th grade.

Given the circumstances where I've seen it, that was exactly what came to mind.

Thanks for confirming my hunch. :ho:

graciegirl 05-02-2016 08:57 AM

//1

graciegirl 05-02-2016 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wendyquat (Post 1220384)
We live south of 466. Honestly, I never gave using the irrigation water a thought until recently. I bought a new verbena hanging basket which hung on a low hanger where it could receive irrigation. The sprinkler provided water to that plant, the grass and one more nearby vine. I looked last week and the verbena and the vine looked like they had been sprayed with Roundup (they hadn't) on the side nearest the sprinkler. The verbena has since died and I trimmed the bad side from the vine. It just could not have been anything but whatever came out of that particular sprinkler head! Makes me think twice about what I water with the reclaimed water!

Wendy...I would lean toward that the plant was not getting enough water from the sprinklers. Hanging plants dry out fast and sometimes during windy hot days they need to be watered twice a day from a pitcher because many don't have big enough drip pans. Sprinklers don't give enough water to offset the evaporation on most hanging plants.

Sable99 05-02-2016 09:21 AM

I have a relative who was diagnosed with MS last fall. She is 32, has a two year old and has a doctorate in the medical field. They have already taken away her driver's license. Her retired parents drive her to work as her husband also works. If you saw her you wouldn't think there was anything wrong with her -- she is vibrant and beautiful. She has done a lot of research and talked to a lot of friends in the medical field since her diagnosis. Through her research she has found there is a high rate of cancer, leukemia, etc in her area. Most of the affected people were also young! I asked if if was because it was a farming community. She said yes and also because of the large gardens! Pretty scary!

By the way, she grew up on her parent's farm and now lives on her late grandparent's farm.


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