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Villager Joyce 05-17-2016 09:09 AM

Request of Guard Gate Attendants
 
Please time the opening of the guest gate so the guest isn't going through the gate at the same time as a resident is going through the resident gate. We were almost side swiped this morning by a person holding a phone and driving a car with license pkate UK..1. Her gate went up and she never looked to her right to see us half way through our gate. Not our first near collision at the gate.

redwitch 05-17-2016 09:18 AM

Good luck with that one! Some of the gate attendants are awesome. They look, they care. Others just don't. If I see that an attendant just waves cars through, I proceed very cautiously. If I see a caring attendant, I just go through cautiously. You never know what will jump out after going through the gate.

TomOB 05-17-2016 09:35 AM

I think a driver should pay attention to their surroundings. Gates and roundabouts seem to be a problem because of lack of attention.

flyerguy 05-17-2016 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TomOB (Post 1227895)
I think a driver should pay attention to their surroundings. Gates and roundabouts seem to be a problem because of lack of attention.

That's a big 10-4. Timing of the gates won't help if those proceeding thru don't pay attention to what the heck they are doing 'cause they are busy on the phone or doing some other stupid thing while driving.

Villager Joyce 05-17-2016 10:19 AM

I have never driven as cautiously as I do here.

Bogie Shooter 05-17-2016 10:51 AM

You can call and share your concerns.
Community Watch
Address: 1135 Bonita Blvd, The Villages, FL 32162
Phone: (352) 750-8201

kcrazorbackfan 05-17-2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1227950)
You can call and share your concerns.
Community Watch
Address: 1135 Bonita Blvd, The Villages, FL 32162
Phone: (352) 750-8201

:agree: Pleading for that on TOTV probably won't get it done; calling CW might. My wife called Community Watch a couple of months ago and asked if they would please train the gate attendants on how to direct large amounts of traffic thru gates and, from what I was recently told, they had that training.

dbussone 05-17-2016 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1227924)
I have never driven as cautiously as I do here.



Neither have I. And I know my age is part of the reason.

Polar Bear 05-17-2016 07:33 PM

Request of Guard Gate Attendants
 
We had a presentation from Community Watch at our last CIC meeting. All gate attendants are trained to control traffic as the OP describes.

No system is perfect and I'm sure some attendants simply perform better than others. There is plenty of video at all gates, which is reviewed as needed. I'm convinced CW is always trying to make it work.

From my experience, the gate attendants do a very good job the vast majority of the time. Plus...even with perfect gate operation...there is no guarantee driver inattention will not cause a problem.

Villager Joyce 05-17-2016 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1228271)
We had a presentation from Community Watch at our last CIC meeting. All gate attendants are trained to control traffic as the OP describes.

No system is perfect and I'm sure some attendants simply perform better than others. There is plenty of video at all gates, which is reviewed as needed. I'm convinced CW is always trying to make it work.

From my experience, the gate attendants do a very good job the vast majority of the time.

Because the other driver in our case was holding her phone in her right hand, she blocked her ability to see our car which was on her right. She was more at fault than the attendant.

I should have given more credit to the attendant. They generally are pretty good. They are dealing with the same people as we are, just lots more of them.

57ChevyFI 05-17-2016 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1227867)
Please time the opening of the guest gate so the guest isn't going through the gate at the same time as a resident is going through the resident gate. We were almost side swiped this morning by a person holding a phone and driving a car with license pkate UK..1. Her gate went up and she never looked to her right to see us half way through our gate. Not our first near collision at the gate.

They do stagger the cars. 100% of the time they can't predict the human element. Some drivers swipe and go forward. Some swipe, and then start going forward only to stop to put their gate card away.. Some people accelerate slow, some accelerate too fast. If people would be patient then there wouldn't be a problem it's actually easy put a lot of people out there want to be problem creators and this is what you get. It's just easy to blame the gate attendants which is wrong.

joesin 05-17-2016 09:20 PM

The gate at Morse by 466 is the worst. The guard is constantly waving the visitor thru, just past the gate is the golf cart crossing. Cars just keep coming. It is nearly impossible to get across to go south on the golf cart path.

CFrance 05-17-2016 10:29 PM

At least at the St. James gate, the visitor lane has the right of way. The resident lane is a merging lane.

Barefoot 05-17-2016 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1228278)
They generally are pretty good. They are dealing with the same people as we are, just lots more of them.

:agree: Attendants get paid a pittance and are normally cheerful and helpful. It behooves us all to be very cautious at gates.


Villager Joyce 05-18-2016 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 57ChevyFI (Post 1228307)
They do stagger the cars. 100% of the time they can't predict the human element. Some drivers swipe and go forward. Some swipe, and then start going forward only to stop to put their gate card away.. Some people accelerate slow, some accelerate too fast. If people would be patient then there wouldn't be a problem it's actually easy put a lot of people out there want to be problem creators and this is what you get. It's just easy to blame the gate attendants which is wrong.

Read my post 10 and respond.

rubicon 05-18-2016 04:34 AM

Thank you gate attendants for your pleasant greeting I do enjoy the brief expressions of pleasantries as I pass through.

I do acknowledge that you have a thankless job but an essential one. I appreciate and believe there is a need for gates

It is indeed troubling for you when there is more traffic at the gates than one can bear. This is especially true at Morse where through no fault of your own the designers believed or perhaps had no choice in merging cars and carts.

Thank you again and have a pleasant day

Personal Best Regards:

ConnieNonnie 05-18-2016 05:39 AM

Question- the Del Mar Gate (leaving Spanish Springs town Sq) is now a manned gate.
There is no visitors lane, as it was always a "resident only gate from 20 yrs ago.
Do you think attendant should open gate for you if they are standing there watching
You swipe card or press button? Just an ongoing discussion in our car EVERY time we
Enter there. TY in advance for your opinions, Connie

Taltarzac725 05-18-2016 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1228337)
Thank you gate attendants for your pleasant greeting I do enjoy the brief expressions of pleasantries as I pass through.

I do acknowledge that you have a thankless job but an essential one. I appreciate and believe there is a need for gates

It is indeed troubling for you when there is more traffic at the gates than one can bear. This is especially true at Morse where through no fault of your own the designers believed or perhaps had no choice in merging cars and carts.

Thank you again and have a pleasant day

Personal Best Regards:

Well said. My late friend from Doggie Doo Run Run Bill Davis was one of these gate attendants. I probably know others as well.

Marathon Man 05-18-2016 06:46 AM

OK. Let's think about this. The left lane (visitor) continues straight onto the road after the gate. The right lane (resident) merges into the left lane after the gate. Now, we all know that when merging you must yield to any traffic in the lane that you are merging into. Therefore, it would seem that those entering the resident gate must yield to anyone entering the visitors gate. At least, that's what I do.

JoelJohnson 05-18-2016 07:33 AM

If you are behind the wheel, you are responsible to watch out for the other guy.

Polar Bear 05-18-2016 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1228332)
Read my post 10 and respond.

You are a patient and tolerant person, VJ. :)

dewilson58 05-18-2016 07:51 AM

I haven't met a gatekeeper I didn't like.

Chellybean 05-18-2016 08:32 AM

Please signal when going over into a car lane when the golf cart lane ends and restarts.
Also folks the GOLF CARTS DO NOT have the right of way and i can't tell you how many times i have had to slam on my brakes to keep from killing someone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also the GOLF CART PATHS going across a road in front of the gate houses; GOLF CART DO NOT have the right of way and i have had also to lock up my breaks to keep from killing someone.
Also the Idiots that sit in a gate lane waving golf carts through aren't using there head.
Due to the bushes walls etc.... the other car traveling through the gate sometimes can not see the other driver at the gate waving on the carts. I understand they are trying to be courteous BUT you may be waving on the GOLF CART TO THEIR DEATH!
Use your head Folks.

57ChevyFI 05-18-2016 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1228278)
Because the other driver in our case was holding her phone in her right hand, she blocked her ability to see our car which was on her right. She was more at fault than the attendant.

I should have given more credit to the attendant. They generally are pretty good. They are dealing with the same people as we are, just lots more of them.

I guess just some people have problems. I would never "almost" get sideswiped coming out of a gate, because I have a gas pedal, a brake, a steering wheel and adjust as needed. I see that a lot on here though, and I am always amused how many people almost died, or were almost killed from vehicles when avoiding an accident. Seems more theatrical, why weren't they "almost had a bruise on their arm" if they would have been in an accident?

Topspinmo 05-19-2016 07:04 PM

I just go through the visitors gate from now on. Don't have to find my card or roll down my window. Being that gate has the right of way makes me feel like someone important:popcorn:

bagboy 05-20-2016 06:51 AM

I would think that a driver that has to "slam" on the brakes and "lock up" the brakes is driving too fast. When I am approaching a golf cart in the golf cart lane nearing a merging spot with cars, I'm fairly certain they are not going to hang a right and jump the curb. They are going to merge, so slow down and let them.

OCsun 05-20-2016 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1228391)
Please signal when going over into a car lane when the golf cart lane ends and restarts.
Also folks the GOLF CARTS DO NOT have the right of way and i can't tell you how many times i have had to slam on my brakes to keep from killing someone!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow! If you see a golf cart in a lane that is merging, and notice they do not have their blinker on and you have to slam on your brakes to keep from killing someone . . . . you may be going to fast. Or even worse, you may be one of those people who speeds up so the golf cart can't merge in front of you.

We all live in a golf cart community. I find that most of the time it is not the car's or the cart's that are the problem. It's the lack of patients we sometimes have for each other here in TV.

At this age, we sometimes suffer from Critical Parent Syndrome or grouchy spells however you choose to describe them. It helps me to just try to be safe and be kind to each other.

Chellybean 05-20-2016 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCsun (Post 1229170)
Wow! If you see a golf cart in a lane that is merging, and notice they do not have their blinker on and you have to slam on your brakes to keep from killing someone . . . . you may be going to fast. Or even worse, you may be one of those people who speeds up so the golf cart can't merge in front of you.

We all live in a golf cart community. I find that most of the time it is not the car's or the cart's that are the problem. It's the lack of patients we sometimes have for each other here in TV.

At this age, we sometimes suffer from Critical Parent Syndrome or grouchy spells however you choose to describe them. It helps me to just try to be safe and kind to each other.

I am sorry you are missing the point, folks that are merging in a reasonable factor i have no problem with.
It is the ones who merge 100 yards before they have to and then yell at the driver of a car for not yielding to them after they don't use there signal and then merge over immediately without any warning, so folks don't act stupid it has happen to everyone and the fact of entitlement to rule the road by the golf cart community.
It is a privilege for golf carts to share the road with the cars Period and Carts don't have the right of way.
This is all i am saying PERIOD.
I do not speed and always do the speed limit of 30 or 35 depending on where you are driving.
And Slamming on your brakes is a must when some idiot merges over without any warning.
Including when some golfer isn't patient enough to get across the road to get to the next hole.
There has even been security helping a crossing area during heavy times or when there are gate problems to keep golf carts from being hit.
Just talk to the security gate folks and see if the drivers are the problem or impatient golf cart drivers.
Get a grip golfers the hole isn't going anywhere!

Bogie Shooter 05-20-2016 07:31 AM

[QUOTE=Chellybean;1229187]I am sorry you are missing the point, folks that are merging in a reasonable factor i have no problem with.
It is the ones who merge 100 yards before they have to and then yell at the driver of a car for not yielding to them after they don't use there signal and then merge over immediately without any warning, so folks don't act stupid it has happen to everyone and the fact of entitlement to rule the road by the golf cart community.
It is a privilege for golf carts to share the road with the cars Period and Carts don't have the right of way.
This is all i am saying PERIOD.
I do not speed and always do the speed limit of 30 or 35 depending on where you are driving.
And Slamming on your brakes is a must when some idiot merges over without any warning.
Including when some golfer isn't patient enough to get across the road to get to the next hole.
There has even been security help a crossing area during heavy times or when there are gate problems to keep golf carts from being hit.
Just talk to the security gate folks and see if the drivers are the problem or inpatient golf cart drivers.
Get a grip golfers the hole isn't going anywhere![/QUOTE]

Well, not all cart drivers are golfer's..............

CFrance 05-20-2016 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1229187)
I am sorry you are missing the point, folks that are merging in a reasonable factor i have no problem with.
It is the ones who merge 100 yards before they have to and then yell at the driver of a car for not yielding to them after they don't use there signal and then merge over immediately without any warning, so folks don't act stupid it has happen to everyone and the fact of entitlement to rule the road by the golf cart community.
It is a privilege for golf carts to share the road with the cars Period and Carts don't have the right of way.
This is all i am saying PERIOD.
I do not speed and always do the speed limit of 30 or 35 depending on where you are driving.
And Slamming on your brakes is a must when some idiot merges over without any warning.
Including when some golfer isn't patient enough to get across the road to get to the next hole.
There has even been security helping a crossing area during heavy times or when there are gate problems to keep golf carts from being hit.
Just talk to the security gate folks and see if the drivers are the problem or impatient golf cart drivers.
Get a grip golfers the hole isn't going anywhere!

It's the ambassadors' fault. They make them play ready golf.:evil6:

Chellybean 05-20-2016 07:44 AM

[QUOTE=Bogie Shooter;1229192]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1229187)
I am sorry you are missing the point, folks that are merging in a reasonable factor i have no problem with.
It is the ones who merge 100 yards before they have to and then yell at the driver of a car for not yielding to them after they don't use there signal and then merge over immediately without any warning, so folks don't act stupid it has happen to everyone and the fact of entitlement to rule the road by the golf cart community.
It is a privilege for golf carts to share the road with the cars Period and Carts don't have the right of way.
This is all i am saying PERIOD.
I do not speed and always do the speed limit of 30 or 35 depending on where you are driving.
And Slamming on your brakes is a must when some idiot merges over without any warning.
Including when some golfer isn't patient enough to get across the road to get to the next hole.
There has even been security help a crossing area during heavy times or when there are gate problems to keep golf carts from being hit.
Just talk to the security gate folks and see if the drivers are the problem or inpatient golf cart drivers.
Get a grip golfers the hole isn't going anywhere![/QUOTE]

Well, not all cart drivers are golfer's..............

Sorry you are correct!

JohnN 05-20-2016 11:44 AM

Happens all the time. The guards are about as worthless as the community watch folks. Best bet is to just be careful and be suspect.h

CritterLover 05-20-2016 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1227924)
I have never driven as cautiously as I do here.

Amen to that!

dbussone 05-20-2016 07:05 PM

Request of Guard Gate Attendants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 1229307)
Happens all the time. The guards are about as worthless as the community watch folks. Best bet is to just be careful and be suspect.h



They really are not guards at all, and don't pose as guards. And I actually find them to be helpful and friendly. Think of them as "entry ambassadors." They have no authority and put up with all matter of insults from the same people who probably abuse golf course ambassadors- who also have no authority and put up with all matter of insults. Have a nice day! [emoji41]

twoplanekid 05-20-2016 07:26 PM

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Let’s keep it simple!

dbussone 05-20-2016 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1229484)
Let’s keep it simple!



Excellent. Each lane has its own red and green lights. [emoji106]

Barefoot 05-20-2016 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1229475)
They really are not guards at all, and don't pose as guards. And I actually find them to be helpful and friendly. Think of them as "entry ambassadors." They have no authority and put up with all matter of insults from the same people who probably abuse golf course ambassadors- who also have no authority and put up with all matter of insults.

:agree:

graciegirl 05-21-2016 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1229475)
They really are not guards at all, and don't pose as guards. And I actually find them to be helpful and friendly. Think of them as "entry ambassadors." They have no authority and put up with all matter of insults from the same people who probably abuse golf course ambassadors- who also have no authority and put up with all matter of insults. Have a nice day! [emoji41]

Sometimes I just like you but most of the time I just love you, but tell the Mrs....not in a bad way.

rubicon 05-21-2016 05:54 AM

referring back to the OP's post. The fact of the matter is that every driver has an obligation. I am not picking the fly p---p out of the pepper when I see this. for example at a four way intersection you are given the green light you still have an obligation to proceed with caution looking peripherally in both direction before proceeding. for simplicity sake if an accident occurs its usually the guy who ran the red light fault for a number of reasons. In law its called the "last clear chance doctrine" No I am not a lawyer but I think like one:D I'd be honored to handle your claim:D

rubicon 05-21-2016 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1228371)
I haven't met a gatekeeper I didn't like.

Yea some of my best friends are gatekeepers:D


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