Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1230802)

I think the truth lies somewhere between the two stories. It would not have happened in the first place had an adult been operating the golf cart. As wonderful as the offended family are portrayed by the author, makes me wonder if the author has an axe to grind with Bald Head Island officials. I've been there a few times and it's very quiet, peaceful and isolated.

Originally Posted by flyerguy (Post 1230899)

I've seen this video on the News several times. Don't know the whole story, but I do know that if it was me or my wife I wouldn't be kicking, screaming, and causing a major incident . We would just cooperate with the Police and follow their instructions.

It seems, to me, that the mother was purposely causing a scene because she knew it was being taped and they would be getting a lot of press. She may be up for best supporting actress.

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1230805)

After reading the article and watching her husband's video of the arrest, it appears to me she was totally out of control. she was lucky these were not NYC or Chicago cops. The three cops were trying to cuff/restrain her as she was screaming and flailing her legs. It looked like they were being as gentle as possible. I chalk this up to a couple that has been spoiled their whole life and have no respect for anyone.

Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1230955)

What a field day their personal injury attorney is going to have. I'm sure there is a line at the door.

Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1230945)

The cops were out of control, and pretty scary,
three of them to a small woman.
And all over an underage golf cart driver!
Great PR for Bald Head, NC

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1230967)

Not scary at all. Did you watch the video? She was acting like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum.

Originally Posted by flyerguy (Post 1230899)

I've seen this video on the News several times. Don't know the whole story, but I do know that if it was me or my wife I wouldn't be kicking, screaming, and causing a major incident . We would just cooperate with the Police and follow their instructions.

It seems, to me, that the mother was purposely causing a scene because she knew it was being taped and they would be getting a lot of press. She may be up for best supporting actress.

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1231048)

:agree:

Originally Posted by zonerboy (Post 1231144)

Moral of the story: when being cited by a police officer it does not pay to yell and shake your finger in his face. If you think you have been wrongly cited, just go to court and plead your case before a judge. That's what normal people do. Screaming, lying on the ground kicking and flailing also do not help the situation. iMNSHO.
(In My Not So Humble Opinion)

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1231146)

Put yourself in her shoes though and these cops look like the equivalent of lifeguards with badges and guns. Pay attention to the context of the story in other words.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1231146)

Put yourself in her shoes though and these cops look like the equivalent of lifeguards with badges and guns. Pay attention to the context of the story in other words.

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1231205)

Maybe you should pay attention to the context. The parents were breaking the law. The woman acted like a complete @zz, and if you watch the video, you can see the three cops were minimally restraining her during her tantrum. I hope she was also charged with resisting arrest. You are monday morning quarterbacking, trying to blame the cops for this woman's belligerent behavior. As much as you want to make this a Rodney King moment, it just isn't. Based on only the video, these cops acted very professionally. I never saw anything close to abuse or excessive force.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1231072)

She does not seem to be the type of attention craving person that would imply from what she said in the article. She seems to be very upset with how the police treated her.

I would also be interested in what type of training these cops have in that community. Just because someone is wearing a uniform and has a badge does not make them a good or honest person.

Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1231213)

Http://www.baldheadassociation.com

It appears they receive training far beyond lifeguards.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1230784)

Mother lets son drive golf cart at resort, gets jailed for child abuse | The Charlotte Observer

What do you think of this? I know people's life experiences will color how you see these events.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1231216)

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Ahhhh I have explained this to my children. I know this speech by heart. They are the ones in authority, you do what they say if you are ever stopped. And do it immediately. They are in command in this situation and they are stopping you or asking you questions because they represent the law. Don't ever argue with them, or run from them or God Forbid mouth off to them. Or you could be dead or in a jail cell. Right or wrong, in this situation, they are in charge.

Tal, it takes a strong person with a great deal of common sense to raise children. You want to protect them in every way and keep all bad things from happening. You have to accept that sometimes they will lie to you, to escape the heat you will give them. You have to raise them to act in a way that other people will find them to be pleasant to be around and other people will hire them someday and other people will marry them and enjoy their lives with them. It is a hard job being a parent, one that people now hand over to people they would not allow to drive their car.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1231303)

Actually, I do not think you should do anything they say especially if it seems wrong according to your ethical codes. I usually do anything a law enforcement officer asks me to do but if they take the law into their own hands that would be another story.

Case in point. I remember that a casino security officer was telling me that he would plant evidence on people if they really pushed his buttons. He might have been joking; but he may not have. He did have a badge and a gun and he was in charge of security.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1231314)

I think THAT goes without saying that a person would not let a law enforcement sexually abuse them or direct them to do what is illegal. AND....I don't think of a casino security officer as law enforcement. I try to obey the rules and laws of the place I am in, be it school, work, driving, etc. etc. I am not saying I have never broken the rules, we all have, but in the last year we have seen young people shot to death when they would have been alive if they had followed directions by law enforcement.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1231318)

A lot of those cases involve community's which have deeply ingrained distrust of the police as when you have a very lucrative drug trade corruption often is there as well. No checks-and-balances really in other words.

These problems vary community-to-community and there does not seem to be an easy answer.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1231072)

She does not seem to be the type of attention craving person that would imply from what she said in the article.

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1231205)

Maybe you should pay attention to the context. The parents were breaking the law. The woman acted like a complete @zz, and if you watch the video, you can see the three cops were minimally restraining her during her tantrum. I hope she was also charged with resisting arrest. You are monday morning quarterbacking, trying to blame the cops for this woman's belligerent behavior. As much as you want to make this a Rodney King moment, it just isn't. Based on only the video, these cops acted very professionally. I never saw anything close to abuse or excessive force.

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1231336)

Tal, with all due respect, I think the opposite. The woman knew her husband was taping the incident, and acted accordingly.
To me, it seems that she craves attention. She could have sanely cooperated with Police, and avoided confrontation.
Instead she chose to shriek and flail around. IMHO, theatrical, overdone and excessive.


:agree:

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1230794)

The whole thing sounds strange. No question the parents showed poor judgment in allowing the son to drive the cart but a citation should have been sufficient. What police officer doesn't have his ticket book with him? Seems like they held the woman there an awfully long time if you consider that the niece left with the kids and the husband left to get bug repellant and returned. And why was just the mother charged? The father was also in the cart sitting next to the boy. My gut feeling is that the true story is somewhere between the two versions given. Regardless, the charges didn't fit the crime. Child endangerment, okay, but not child abuse.