AR-15 style rifles
 

This seems to be a very popular weapon among mass shooters. High capacity magazines that can be taped back to back for easy reloading. .223 bullets that are lightweight and have high velocity do massive damage.

Not a sporting rifle by any means. No, not an assault rifle due to tiny tweaks made by manufacturers. Can be converted to full automatic by some minor reworking but not necessary.

Full background checks plus several day waiting period should be required. Possibly, this terrorist event would not have happened if the background check had turned up the domestic abuses and the FBI interviews before allowing the terrorist to take posession.

Doubtful.

I guess a lot of folks fail to remember that guy in D.C. that went on a shooting rampage in the Navy Yard, using a SHOTGUN. If someone wants to kill, they will kill. Rather they use a gun than a pressure cooker bomb.

The issue is not the type of rifle, pistol or shotgun or knife or bomb.

It is the USA pemissiveness, don't hurt anybody's feelings lack of due enforcement.

And while it is convenient, the categorizing of weapons based on the most recent event is political media anti gunner BS.

Anyone with half a brain in positions of authority have by now enough information to profile and categorize the persons and the weapons. They have had the information for years. Yet what has been done to change the lack of enforcement?

Nothing.

We have become an anti enforcement, with a blind tolerance for the obvious violators.

And oh by the way....all the political and media and anti gunner BS has no effect on those intent on doing harm.

The other 99% of us who obey the rules and act responsibly DO NOT need any more laws than are on the books.

And the case study of all case studies that proves day after day that more gun rules do not fix anything. The csae study? Chicago, ILL....strictes gun controls in the country. Highest gun murder rate in the country.

So what is the point again?

POLITICAL, MEDIA, ANTI GUNNER BS!

The point that EVERYONE fails to see is that 90% of gun crimes are committed by minorities. Ban THEM from having weapons. The crime and death rate will drop by 90%. Why does nobody ever mention the REAL violence problem?

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Put that in your politically correct, permissive, do not offend anybody (especially if not white) pipe and smoke it!

That deserves another....:BigApplause:

Shhhh, don't tell anyone. Do you want to offset the balance?

Timothy McVeigh was a minority? He was a Muslim?

No, McVeigh was white and an Army veteran.

Oh, he does not count. McVeigh used a fertilizer bomb and bot a gun.

The Columbine students used guns. The Sandy Hook shooter used a gun.

Oh, they do not count. They were crazy.

Crazy? Someone is crazy alright.

Gotta love it when liberals stick up for Muslim terrorists. Blame it all on the gun. Do not blame it on radical Muslims that hate gays. That couldn't be. And to top it with a cherry, many of them are blaming it on Trump...ha,ha.

And they wonder why we call them "libtards."

And the Regressives wonder why they will lose the Presidential election!

I have no issue with banning AR-15 rifles.

But what would be the discussion if the killer used an explosive vest? Or poison gas? Or drove his car into the club? Or set fire to the place? Or used a pressure cooker bomb?

Could we then freaking figure out that we need to control 18-30 year old radical Muslims!!!!

Once again, the Regressive redirects to a "what if" situation.

What are you going to do? Build interrment camps for all Muslims - even American born Muslims?

How about we stop importing them, and the ones that are in GITMO, keep them in GITMO.

This is what make me crazy.
"It was during this probe, which ended in 2014, that Mateen was placed on a terrorism watch list. Comey, speaking to reporters at the Justice Department, declined to say whether he was also placed on a no-fly list. After the shooting, Congress again began debating whether to prevent people on such lists from buying guns."
FBI says Orlando gunman had been on watchlist; six wounded in shooting still critically injured - The Washington Post

What's the NRA position? They have the right to buy guns just like everyone else?

Sounds like a libtard, acting like restricting a radical group is such a big deal. It has been done before. You want to ban a stupid gun that isn't even a military weapon. Just another of a multitude of guns that a RADICAL used to kill. So, if up to you, we would punish the gun instead of the killer, IF that was possible. You are so afraid of Muslims that you fear their anger if you say anything against them.

Libtards are so stupid that they think that by getting rid of one gun, it's going to stop the killing. They forget about bombs and they forget about Paris recently. You know, the place where they have strict gun control?

Try to get it through your heads, liberals. AR-15 is not a military weapon and it is NOT an assault weapon. The M-16 is the military assault weapon. The AR-15 just looks like one. It does not operate like one.

My son-in-law has a Glock 9mm semi-automatic pistol. He has a 30 round magazine. It is not an assault weapon, but it has the same ability as the AR-15 to kill 30 people before reloading. I have a S&W 9mm pistol with a 16 round magazine. Many shotguns are semi-automatic and they even sell some that look like military weapons. Are you going to ban all semi-automatic weapons? Does that mean that my six shot 357 magnum is ok? Because with speed loaders, I can reload faster than some folks with semi-automatic pistols.

Please, will one libtard speak up and explain exactly how far you will go to limit the 2nd Amendment. And by the way, technically by the 2nd Amend. we should be able to have any weapon that the military has. After all, it is there to protect us from an over reaching government.

Ideally you [and all like minded people] want to be armed with automatic weapons just like our Military just in case our Military is ordered to attack you will have equal firing power. Is that right? How about a tank? Do you want one of those too?

And it's reasonable for someone, a Muslim in this case to be on a FBI watch list and not restrict selling any weapon he wants to purchase because that might be the slippery slope of total gun control. Is that right?

Cry me a river. Name me just one gun that went out and killed someone. If you liberals would just push law enforcement and strict penalties, you wouldn't have to fear the big mean guns. Tell you what, if you agree to voter ID, I'll agree to banning the infamous AR-15. Deal?

No you just don't let Muslims in the country
until they have been vetted, especially
if they come from countries that supports
terrorist activities. Is that really hard to understand.
If it is, you are definitely a Libtard!

A government is more apt to be tyrannical if the people are not able to bear arms.
Tanks are not necessary since History has shown,
that a smaller number of armed people can change a country's course!

Liberals don't know anything about fighting a war. Give-em a break. I am surprised one of them mentioned a tank. Must have learned of them on a video game because they certainly are reluctant to serve their country.

Why didn't you answer my questions?
I'll agree to voter ID.

They've been bred out of the majority by the minorities.

We need to ban 18-30 minorities too. THAT is where the problems originate.

A dangerous group is a dangerous group. Ban mosques, where they're radicalized, and hopefully they'll go away.

We're also supposed to be "allowed" to form local "well regulated militias". Look how well that has gone. They're treated like an enemy. Because they ARE an enemy to the liars and thieves running government.

Who creates the "watch list" and under what criteria? It seem ANYONE can be added to this "list" and then denied basic civil rights. Don't believe all the propaganda.

Just don't let them in period. What GOOD will they add? What value? None that I can see.

The difference between a citizen and a slave is a citizen can defend themselves.

And you'll lose half the D voters. Hopefully. They're becoming the majority, so this may be our last hope.

Who? Our revolution? The government we were fighting was across the ocean.

France? More than just a small number.

We need another France style here.

Say's the ignorant and naive child...

It appears that YOU are the one that needs professional assistance, if you fear sharp words. :1rotfl:

For your safety, I hope your parents don't allow you near sharp objects.

Awwww! He used a bad word....whackadoodle. That should illicit a lot of smart responses and definitely put fear in the subject of his accusation.

The Gang of Three (former 6 PAC) are talking to themselves. :1rotfl:

How sweet, but really, have an original idea. :1rotfl:

Yesterday I posted this including a link to entire article and it wasn't embraced very well.

Today - Trump suggests talking to the NRA and now it's a reasonable idea.
hmmmmmmmmm

From what I have discerned, this nutcase was on the no-fly list and then taken off again. I don't know how that works or how you get off the list, but if so then not selling to someone on the no-fly list would not have applied in this case.

Liberals just don't get it. Guns or not having guns available do not have any bearing on these mass killings. Guns do not account for a person's mental mindset and evil intent. Are we going to ban the sale of dangerous, assault pressure cookers? Are we going to ban knives, axes and arrows? If someone wishes to kill a group of people, they will and all you are going to do is create another Paris attack here, if you start a war on guns and not on the real enemy.

So much hate here! Must be Trump lovers!

So much stupidity here. Must be A Chillary lover!

I bet you accused your momma of "hating" you too. Sounds like something a juvenile would say when they can't get their way.

The answers are in the online newspapers if you feel like reading them.

Yes, I can tell how valid and accurate they are when Grayson tells the news reporter that the gun that idiot had could fire 700 rounds a minute. My advice to you is to take every news comment with a grain of salt, or a pinch of it.

And I have yet to see one liberal reporter that knew the difference between an automatic assault weapon and a semiautomatic weapon. But, how would any liberal know? Liberals are not required to be knowledgeable on a subject to expound on it.

If you enjoy reading about the AR 15, the NRA and other comments about mass shootings that might be informational. If you see gun errors point them out.
Gun control AR-15 rifle: The NRA claims the AR-15 rifle is for hunting and home defense. Not exactly.