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nyclicker 02-01-2009 02:36 PM

New home Prices Continue Down
 
Anyone have any idea how low prices will go. I just saw a new 1527 Sq Ft Bougainvillea with a Florida room for 162,352 in the February listings. I though the winter months was the best for selling.

Bogie Shooter 02-01-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nyclicker (Post 186411)
Anyone have any idea how low prices will go. I just saw a new 1527 Sq Ft Bougainvillea with a Florida room for 162,352 in the February listings. I though the winter months was the best for selling.

???????Now really. Do you think anyone can answer that question?

samhass 02-01-2009 04:10 PM

I think summer is a better time for selling a home in TV. People visit in the winter, they go home and try to sell their homes, then..if successful, they return and buy their new or resale home. Prices have dropped in TV, but not as much as in many other areas of the country. Should I decide to buy yet another home down here, I would definitely go resale. Some people have no clue how much they will spend after the sale on myriad improvements...many of which are necessary. Factor in bond savings and you may find a fabulous deal.
Everything is cyclical. One day in the not so distant future, I think houses in TV will be a hot ticket. Get 'em before they are hot!;) Every Grandkid I know wants to live here now!!

Laker14 02-01-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nyclicker (Post 186411)
Anyone have any idea how low prices will go. I just saw a new 1527 Sq Ft Bougainvillea with a Florida room for 162,352 in the February listings. I though the winter months was the best for selling.

Just curious,
is that a brand new unit, sold through TV? or new as in a new listing in one of the MLS realtors?

nyclicker 02-01-2009 06:18 PM

It's a brand new unit, sold through TV

Russ_Boston 02-01-2009 06:50 PM

NY - I see that one right here:http://www.thevillages.com/homes/new...&sid=799196964

I think that one may have a little issue (looks like power lines right behind?). It is the only one much under 200K.

But I do agree that there are some good prices on new right now (plus bond of course).

I like this style here: http://www.thevillages.com/homes/new...&sid=799190685

Halle 02-01-2009 06:54 PM

Russ,

I like the Begonia too. When at our house in TV in December we were able to tour that model, I liked the floorplan. That particular house has barely enough room to walk around without stepping in your neighbors yard. Way too close for me.

Russ_Boston 02-01-2009 07:13 PM

That would be why it's only 230K. I do like the layout but not with back to back lanais.

Laker14 02-02-2009 06:15 AM

Russ,
do you have your heart set on a brand new unit? Some friends of mine recently bought brand new, and they were showing me the closing sheet.

Add the bond, and the various fees that come along with buying brand new, and while the "sale price" was 240g, by the time they were done the actual cost was more like 280.

BTW, that IS a nice house.

Dan L

graciegirl 02-02-2009 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nyclicker (Post 186411)
Anyone have any idea how low prices will go. I just saw a new 1527 Sq Ft Bougainvillea with a Florida room for 162,352 in the February listings. I though the winter months was the best for selling.


I saw one at 169K in Hadley. This style you step immediately into the living room. It has a square tiled area but no defined entry.

Russ_Boston 02-02-2009 08:34 AM

I won't be buying until (at least) next year. I know, from TOTV, that there will be some extras when purchasing new so I'll take that into consideration. I'm open to either new or preowned.

nyclicker 02-02-2009 08:37 AM

This is the one I saw in the low 160's

http://www.thevillages.com/homes/new...00711404&from=

F16 1UB 02-02-2009 09:05 AM

2 years ago friends in Sable Chase bought an Amarillo that paid 20K more didn't even get blinds or fans. Good ol economy. :yuck:

MMC24 02-02-2009 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 186459)
NY - I see that one right here:http://www.thevillages.com/homes/new...&sid=799196964

I think that one may have a little issue (looks like power lines right behind?). It is the only one much under 200K.

But I do agree that there are some good prices on new right now (plus bond of course).

I like this style here: http://www.thevillages.com/homes/new...&sid=799190685

Russ:

I agree this is the new concrete construction home they are starting to build.

downeaster 02-02-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 186506)
Russ,
do you have your heart set on a brand new unit? Some friends of mine recently bought brand new, and they were showing me the closing sheet.

Add the bond, and the various fees that come along with buying brand new, and while the "sale price" was 240g, by the time they were done the actual cost was more like 280.

BTW, that IS a nice house.

Dan L

Unless the bond is paid off the unpaid balance will be included in the closing statement on a pr-owned sale. The amount will depend on the original amount and number of payments. The original amount will be much less on an older home and more payments will have been paid.

A critical question when buying a pre-owned home: "What is the balance of the bond?"

Some homeowners have elected to pay off the bond. There is an opportunity to do this once a year.

villages07 02-02-2009 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 186573)
Unless the bond is paid off the unpaid balance will be included in the closing statement on a pr-owned sale. The amount will depend on the original amount and number of payments.

DE..... maybe I'm interpreting this incorrectly....are you saying on a resale, that the new buyer MUST pay off the existing bond balance? Or, does he/she just inherit the balance and can elect to pay it off in total or pay it down yearly just as the original owner did?

downeaster 02-02-2009 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by villages07 (Post 186586)
DE..... maybe I'm interpreting this incorrectly....are you saying on a resale, that the new buyer MUST pay off the existing bond balance? Or, does he/she just inherit the balance and can elect to pay it off in total or pay it down yearly just as the original owner did?

07,

I don't know. I am not saying the bond must be paid off. However, the bond balance, if any, will be addressed.
Any local RE broker would have the correct answer.

Bogie Shooter 02-02-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 186609)
07,

I don't know. I am not saying the bond must be paid off. However, the bond balance, if any, will be addressed.
Any local RE broker would have the correct answer.

The buyer assumes the same obligation as the original owner.

Peggy D 02-02-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 186459)
NY - I see that one right here:http://www.thevillages.com/homes/new...&sid=799196964

I think that one may have a little issue (looks like power lines right behind?). It is the only one much under 200K.

But I do agree that there are some good prices on new right now (plus bond of course).

I like this style here: http://www.thevillages.com/homes/new...&sid=799190685

Russ,

TV is building the Bigonia with poured concrete walls instead of CB I
understand. A friend of ours was talking to the contractor. He said they
were trying this.
I like this house too. I'm told there are two other new models.

uujudy 02-02-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by F16 1UB (Post 186525)
2 years ago friends in Sable Chase bought an Amarillo that paid 20K more didn't even get blinds or fans. Good ol economy. :yuck:

Yes F16, but consider that they've been living in the house and enjoying the Villages Lifestyle for those 2 years. $20K divided by 24 is less than $1,000 a month.

Judy
Not an accountant or an English major, neither ;)

Skip 02-02-2009 05:49 PM

Closing Costs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 186506)
Add the bond, and the various fees that come along with buying brand new, and while the "sale price" was 240g, by the time they were done the actual cost was more like 280.
Dan L

You got that right. Closing costs on a new house are insane! (So is the total bond amount.)

Skip

JohnN 02-02-2009 06:13 PM

My closing costs were a couple hundred bucks, and the bond was about $10K

course I had a patio villa, but still not so bad in my mind,

I shopped a lot of Florida real estate and for the lifestyle and the home, I think TV is just a bargain, IMHO

NJblue 02-02-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip (Post 186620)
You got that right. Closing costs on a new house are insane! (So is the total bond amount.)

Skip

I didn't find that to be the case at all. Other than prorated stuff like amenity fees, taxes and bond (all stuff that is rightfully associated with the purchase of the house) and buyers' title insurance (which is optional) there were no other closing costs. However, we paid cash. If we had financed the purchase, then the mortgage company would have assessed quite a lot of fees as I recall; but I assume that they would have assessed those same fees regardless of whether it was a new or resale.

jeffy 02-02-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip (Post 186620)
You got that right. Closing costs on a new house are insane! (So is the total bond amount.)

Skip

As the others said, all our closing costs of our in-laws new home were covered by TV (with the exception of prepaids and optional title insurance.)

This is different than when we closed several years ago. When we bought in 2005 we did have a LOT of closing costs. They dont do that anymore.

jeffy

Laker14 02-02-2009 08:06 PM

Here's what I have from the aforementioned sale..brand new , this is March 2007. A Camelia, the purchase price was $237,000

$5525 in closing costs associated with the mortgage (20% down conventional)

in addition to those, the pro-rated county taxes..which of course you pay no matter what,,

here are the costs associated with the new house purchase=

Mail Box Fee ..........................$190
Deed recording fees. ................156
Documentary Stamps...............1660
Utility Hook up........................2300
wAter hook up..........................700

underground electric Service Fee...165
Water and wastewater fee.......... 90
electric meter fee...................100

Building Permits....................3998

That came to a total of ......$9498

as far as I know that $9498 is from buying a new place. You wouldn't pay that on a resale...

In addition to those fees is the bond, which in this case was $20500.

So, in addition to the purchase price in this example, one would add the bond price (which may or may not be a factor in the purchase of a resale) and the $9498 that would not be a factor in a resale.

My understanding is that some of these charges may be picked up by the developer at certain times, depending upon market conditions, to "sweeten" the deal. I don't know if that's true or not. I heard that. Could be BS.

Correct me if I'm messed up on this. I think I get it, but I'm still crunching these numbers.

Dan L

Laker14 02-02-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffy (Post 186636)
As the others said, all our closing costs of our in-laws new home were covered by TV (with the exception of prepaids and optional title insurance.)

This is different than when we closed several years ago. When we bought in 2005 we did have a LOT of closing costs. They dont do that anymore.

jeffy

Jeffy, I should have read that before I wrote. THat would make a big difference when comparing new vs. resale, fer shur.


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