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Bryant 07-09-2016 08:58 AM

Seco Electric Bill
 
In March moved from designer home to courtyard villa. My recent electric bill is $43.50 higher than last year. Husband is concerned it is the unit (older than designer home unit). I say it's hotter this year. How does your electric bill compare to last years? Thank you.

John_W 07-09-2016 09:22 AM

We have a 2011 built 2 BR Masonry CYV Woodlawn model, now called a Durham. Our last SECO bill was $93, our highest in quite sometime. Normally it has been in the $85 range. Even in winter our bill has never hits $100 except in our first year. When we moved in we had a 50" Panasonic Plasma TV and our bill was normally about $110 to $115. In 2012 we replaced that TV with an Vizio 60" LED HD TV and our bills as I mentioned earlier are in the $80 - $90 range. We also operate a 42" Samsung LED HD TV in the bedroom since the beginning. It seems a Plasma TV was adding 75 cents to a $1 per day to our electricity. We have the Carrier unit that came with our home, I believe it's a 2 ton unit, which is really more than necessary for our 1150 SF.

Chatbrat 07-09-2016 10:00 AM

If you really want to save $$ put your hot water off when you go to sleep & put it on when you get up--or install a timer

Boomer 07-09-2016 10:13 AM

Same Time Last Year.........

Our bill was lower last year for the same time period.

The compared bills show we are using an average of 8 kwh per day more this year, for the same month. But I don't know where we set the thermostat at the same time last year. That's a big unknown.

The average daily temperature chart on the SECO website shows 82 degrees for the billing period -- for both years.

The only thing I know for sure is we have not varied the temperature this summer and this bill is 30 dollars higher than last month.

Bryant 07-09-2016 10:48 AM

Seco Electric Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1251705)
We have a 2011 built 2 BR Masonry CYV Woodlawn model, now called a Durham. Our last SECO bill was $93, our highest in quite sometime. Normally it has been in the $85 range. Even in winter our bill has never hits $100 except in our first year. When we moved in we had a 50" Panasonic Plasma TV and our bill was normally about $110 to $115. In 2012 we replaced that TV with an Vizio 60" LED HD TV and our bills as I mentioned earlier are in the $80 - $90 range. We also operate a 42" Samsung LED HD TV in the bedroom since the beginning. It seems a Plasma TV was adding 75 cents to a $1 per day to our electricity. We have the Carrier unit that came with our home, I believe it's a 2 ton unit, which is really more than necessary for our 1150 SF.

$93? That's awesome. My unit is original (1999). Seems to run quite a lot lately. Bill for 5/26 to 6/27 (32 days) is $144.86. It shows 39 KWH/Day. 1286 sq. ft. CYV. Last year in designer 1540 sq. ft., usage was 26 KWH/Day (30 days) and bill was $98.36. Thought the move would save me money

rexxfan 07-09-2016 10:52 AM

For what its worth, for May 8 to June 9 2015 (32 days) with us up north for the summer and the thermostat left set to 82F we used 243 kwh. For May 10 through June 8 2016 (29 days) with us up north for the summer and the thermostat left set to 84F we used 205 kwh. Doing the arithmetic, that's 7.6 kwh/day last year versus 7.1 this year. The half a kwh/day drop this year is likely nearly completely explained by the slightly higher setting we left the thermostat at this year versus last, so there doesn't appear to be anything unusual going on with the rates and the average temperatures look about the same this year as last.
--
Bob C

P.S. Just received June bill and the usage was up significantly, from 7 kwh/day to 12.88 for the period. That seems like a lot, but if you look at the ratio of cooling degree days data they have for TV (at Weather Underground) for June versus May (541/362) its in the same ballpark, so not terribly surprising.

debow 07-09-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryant (Post 1251692)
In March moved from designer home to courtyard villa. My recent electric bill is $43.50 higher than last year. Husband is concerned it is the unit (older than designer home unit). I say it's hotter this year. How does your electric bill compare to last years? Thank you.

Lots,of variables to consider. My CYV is up from last year for June but still not too unreasonable. Pretty sure this has been a hotter month. I'd wait a couple of months to see if bills even out. Good luck.

Topspinmo 07-09-2016 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by debow (Post 1251760)
Lots,of variables to consider. My CYV is up from last year for June but still not too unreasonable. Pretty sure this has been a hotter month. I'd wait a couple of months to see if bills even out. Good luck.

Yes one being what's the a/c themostat set on. It will be considerable more set below 74 degrees, if will have to run almost 24 hours day to keep house that cool especially when the evening temp. don't cool down much below 80 and the day time temps are mid 90s. I think brick or concrete build home hold heat for the sun longer hand wood frame home?

Nucky 07-09-2016 12:13 PM

About half of where we moved from. To good to be true!

Chatbrat 07-09-2016 12:50 PM

69 @ night, 74 during the day---$177. last month, still way cheaper than NC

kcrazorbackfan 07-09-2016 01:19 PM

76 all day/night long; Seabreeze Cottage, $127 last mo., we do use small Vornado fans to keep the air moving.

jebartle 07-09-2016 01:40 PM

another suggestion
 
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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1251720)
If you really want to save $$ put your hot water off when you go to sleep & put it on when you get up--or install a timer

after running your car, leave it outside of garage until car cools off.

RickeyD 07-09-2016 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 1251830)
after running your car, leave it outside of garage until car cools off.



Yes, considerable amount of BTU's stored in a cast iron block.

Topspinmo 07-09-2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1251804)
69 @ night, 74 during the day---$177. last month, still way cheaper than NC

How many bed sheets/covers do you sleep under? :cold:

Topspinmo 07-09-2016 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1251838)
Yes, considerable amount of BTU's stored in a cast iron block.

Most blocks are aluminum now:$::p

photo1902 07-09-2016 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1251890)
Most blocks are aluminum now:$::p

Not to mention how would placing a recently driven vehicle in the garage, dramatically affect the inside temp of a home?!!

Topspinmo 07-09-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1251822)
76 all day/night long; Seabreeze Cottage, $127 last mo., we do use small Vornado fans to keep the air moving.

$118 set on 77 with ceiling fans moving air. Set it any lower my lungs fluid up.

Topspinmo 07-09-2016 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1251891)
Not to mention how would placing a recently driven vehicle in the garage, dramatically affect the inside temp of a home?!!

Heats up garage which radiates heat to inside of house and attic is my guess?

photo1902 07-09-2016 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1251894)
Heats up garage which radiates heat to inside of house and attic is my guess?

The inside of my garage door is presently 116 degrees. The door from the garage to my laundry room (interior side) is 78 degrees (as measured with a laser digital thermometer). Next time, soon after parking my car inside, I'll do an experiment and check. My guess, the result would be neglible.

Fredster 07-09-2016 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryant (Post 1251739)
$93? That's awesome. My unit is original (1999). Seems to run quite a lot lately. Bill for 5/26 to 6/27 (32 days) is $144.86. It shows 39 KWH/Day. 1286 sq. ft. CYV. Last year in designer 1540 sq. ft., usage was 26 KWH/Day (30 days) and bill was $98.36. Thought the move would save me money

Your CYV is older, does it have thermopane Windows?
The other thought is if the AC unit is older it may not be as efficient as a newer unit.
Has your AC unit been checked out it may be low on refrigerant.

asianthree 07-09-2016 04:24 PM

Up north set at 80. Bill was $68. For a Lilly

Boomer 07-09-2016 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1251896)
The inside of my garage door is presently 116 degrees. The door from the garage to my laundry room (interior side) is 78 degrees (as measured with a laser digital thermometer). Next time, soon after parking my car inside, I'll do an experiment and check. My guess, the result would be neglible.

I don't know what that is but I want one.

justjim 07-09-2016 05:20 PM

No question about it the new AC units are much more efficient than an older unit. OP, your husband may be correct regarding an older AC unit. Our designer home (one year old) SECO bill for 5/26 -6/27 (32 days) was $70.14. Thermostat set at 78 and I believe humidistat set at 50%. Very reasonable.

photo1902 07-09-2016 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1251916)
I don't know what that is but I want one.

LOL. I got mine at Lowe's for $29.99. Caution though, you find yourself checking the temperature of everything! Walmart has them as well.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/16491328?w...&wl13=&veh=sem

golfing eagles 07-09-2016 06:06 PM

Total energy cost for our Laurel Oak, 2540 sq ft, 7/15-6/16 = $1809.09. Total energy cost NY home 7/14-6/15 = $5978.29. Lots of variables, but substantial difference---I'm not going to worry if it's $20 higher next year

biker1 07-09-2016 06:18 PM

Our designer home averages 27 kWhs per day for the entire year.16 kWhs per day are what I call "baseline" (everything but HVAC). HVAC averages 11 kWhs per day for the entire year.

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1251928)
No question about it the new AC units are much more efficient than an older unit. OP, your husband may be correct regarding an older AC unit. Our designer home (one year old) SECO bill for 5/26 -6/27 (32 days) was $70.14. Thermostat set at 78 and I believe humidistat set at 50%. Very reasonable.


patfla06 07-09-2016 07:58 PM

Our designer Ivy (2600 sq ft) runs about $150/month.
Our Tampa house used to run us about $500/month.
Another reason we love T.V. 😉

Chatbrat 07-09-2016 11:40 PM

According to med research the best temp for sleeping is between 60-67, I would like it lower than 69 we use, but I don't want to go to battle stations with the admiral

PennBF 07-10-2016 07:01 AM

What Planet
 
What planet am I living on? Designer home 77 during day and 70 at night. March bill $82, June Bill $267. Called SECO to ask what
is going on and then looked at prior years and they ran the same as this one. Called A/C guy and had the unit examined inside home and out and his conclusion all is running fine. Called SECO and told them to forget it as it looks like it is normal. (In fact in a prior year, same period price was $20 higher.) Will wait until it drops dead and then buy a more efficient unit.:popcorn:

Chatbrat 07-10-2016 10:17 AM

A laser gun is a remote reading thermometer, used it a lot when we lived on a motor yacht to check engine manifold- & exhaust temps very useful tool, great when using a grill for pizza

Chatbrat 07-10-2016 10:20 AM

You don't want to have to replace anything until it drops dead--they you MUST have it & you really are in no position to negotiate

Be prepared to move out of your house if the AC craps out and has to be replaced, happened to use back in 95 when we were in St.Pete

Bryant 07-10-2016 11:26 AM

Seco Electric Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1251908)
Your CYV is older, does it have thermopane Windows?
The other thought is if the AC unit is older it may not be as efficient as a newer unit.
Has your AC unit been checked out it may be low on refrigerant.

Double pane windows. AC unit serviced right after we moved in. Will be checked 2x per year per contract. It probably isn't very efficient. Keep thermostat at a steady 78 degrees and keep blinds closed when sun coming in.

2BNTV 07-10-2016 12:14 PM

I had friend over and try to lower my temp to 72 and it took awhile to get several degrees lower. I thought I had a problem.

I had my A/C checked by Chuck Farrell and he said everything was fine. He said even newer units were having problems in this extreme heat. My unit is 18 years old.

I said it must have one foot on the banana peel and the other foot in the coffin. :D He recommended having it replaced in the winter months and to watch my bills as they will be higher than usual in this extremely hot summer.

Man, it's been hot, hot, hot. :smiley:

RickeyD 07-10-2016 01:40 PM

Seco Electric Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1251890)
Most blocks are aluminum now:$::p



Don't care, my 327 is iron [emoji51] actually it's a 331 ( .030 over )

Nucky 07-10-2016 02:11 PM

We just moved from Jersey, our electric bill on the budget plan was $220 a month and the Oil bill which also supplied the hot water averaged $3600 per year. Total $6240 a year. $520 a month and I don't know the square footage. PSE&G was the electric provider...a fantastic company. They gave our power back 4 days after The Sandy Storm. Great stock to own....always steady with penny's from heaven.

Chatbrat 07-10-2016 03:18 PM

Had a 336, .060 over-knocked out 538 HP with that engine--not streetable- was an 8500 RPM drag car only

Roaddog53 07-10-2016 06:15 PM

Here is a site for heating and cooling degree days comparison years for any zip code. For zip code 32162, it was only 2% hotter for June 2015, than June 2016. So that leaves setting thermostats lower this year versus last year, not having humidistat set for those who have them at 50% as recommended. AC doesn't have to be set as low than. Maybe an appliance was added, company was over this year which takes more AC to keep house cooler, more water heater usage ,more dishwasher usage, lights on more...,Many variables have to be considered. My bill was up about 9% this month versus last year but I also added a spa last month, so pretty flat.
Btw. Insulating my garage door dropped the heat in garage significantly. I also have a thermal gun and it showed 115+ before on door versus 90s now.

Weather Data Depot: free downloads of heating & cooling degree days
Monthly Degree Day Comparison (Station: FLVI View Map)
Base Year (2015) Comparison Year (2016) Comparison Percentages
Month HDD CDD TDD HDD CDD TDD HDD CDD TDD
January 116 75 191 148 53 201 27% -29% 5%
February 117 34 151 97 97 194 -17% 185% 28%
March 9 339 348 9 318 327 -6% -6%
April 0 475 475 0 380 380 -20% -20%
May 0 564 564 0 537 537 -4% -4%
June 0 681 681 0 696 696 2% 2%
July 0 710 710
August 0 707 707
September 0 631 631
October 0 463 463
November 6 419 425
December 8 345 353
Through June 242 2168 2410 254 2081 2335 5% -4% -3%
Annual Total 256 5443 5699

sunset seeker 07-10-2016 09:13 PM

Just moved in.... Des SECO put you on a budget plan after a year or is it an actual bill every month. Have been worried about the bill... I think the A/C is running 100% of the time!!! :-O

KittyKat 07-11-2016 12:58 AM

Welcome, sunset seeker(s)! I've been here 9 years and have never been offered a budget plan so I don't think so. You are not going to have such a swing in temperatures as up North so no "surprise" high bills. You will like your bill during the winter down here.

daca55 07-11-2016 05:56 AM

Humidistat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1251705)
We have a 2011 built 2 BR Masonry CYV Woodlawn model, now called a Durham. Our last SECO bill was $93, our highest in quite sometime. Normally it has been in the $85 range. Even in winter our bill has never hits $100 except in our first year. When we moved in we had a 50" Panasonic Plasma TV and our bill was normally about $110 to $115. In 2012 we replaced that TV with an Vizio 60" LED HD TV and our bills as I mentioned earlier are in the $80 - $90 range. We also operate a 42" Samsung LED HD TV in the bedroom since the beginning. It seems a Plasma TV was adding 75 cents to a $1 per day to our electricity. We have the Carrier unit that came with our home, I believe it's a 2 ton unit, which is really more than necessary for our 1150 SF.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rexxfan (Post 1251740)
For what its worth, for May 8 to June 9 2015 (32 days) with us up north for the summer and the thermostat left set to 82F we used 243 kwh. For May 10 through June 8 2016 (29 days) with us up north for the summer and the thermostat left set to 84F we used 205 kwh. Doing the arithmetic, that's 7.6 kwh/day last year versus 7.1 this year. The half a kwh/day drop this year is likely nearly completely explained by the slightly higher setting we left the thermostat at this year versus last, so there doesn't appear to be anything unusual going on with the rates and the average temperatures look about the same this year as last.
--
Bob C

Do you have a humidistat? I think you would save a bit more if you had one.


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