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Guest 07-20-2016 09:10 PM

Voter ID Struck Down
 
The restrictive Voter ID law in Texas has been struck down in Texas!

Texas must allow voting for people without ID. This follows Wisconsin's Voter ID law which was also struck down!

Is Florida the next for us to change?

Guest 07-20-2016 09:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257225)
The restrictive Voter ID law in Texas has been struck down in Texas!

Texas must allow voting for people without ID. This follows Wisconsin's Voter ID law which was also struck down!

Is Florida the next for us to change?

"A federal appeals court has ruled that Texas's strict voter ID law illegally discriminates against blacks and Hispanics in violation of the Voting Rights Act -- but it stopped short of saying the law must be struck down."

Guest 07-20-2016 09:42 PM

As long as there are democrats there will be no voter IDs. If there was voters IDs and verification there would be no democrats.:BigApplause: thank you, please hold the :BigApplause:

Guest 07-20-2016 09:45 PM

Yeah that`s a really great idea to allow anyone to vote anywhere they want as often as they want and with no ID .

I`m sure that it is exactly what the framers of our Constitution had in mind !

Guest 07-21-2016 05:02 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257236)
Yeah that`s a really great idea to allow anyone to vote anywhere they want as often as they want and with no ID .

I`m sure that it is exactly what the framers of our Constitution had in mind !

What Constitution? That old parchment was shredded by this administration almost eight years ago. Where have you been?

Jan 20, 2017 The End of an ERROR

Guest 07-21-2016 05:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257236)
Yeah that`s a really great idea to allow anyone to vote anywhere they want as often as they want and with no ID .

I`m sure that it is exactly what the framers of our Constitution had in mind !

I wonder if the same court would strike down the requirement of photo ID needed to enter the Democratic National Convention arena?????

Guest 07-21-2016 05:58 AM

Voter ID laws a solution in search of a nonexistent problem - CSMonitor.com

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A new study shows that the kind of fraud that voter IDs can stop is extraordinarily rare, suggesting that the burden such laws put on the poor, elderly, and minorities might be worse than the actual problem.

This week, Loyola University Law School Professor Justin Levitt reported on the results of a comprehensive study which concluded that in-person voter impersonation is an incredibly rare occurrence:


:wave:


CNM

Guest 07-21-2016 05:58 AM

Well, according to liberals, you shouldn't have show ID to purchase medicine, liquor, purchase a firearm, or fly on an airlines. Now that is what I call real freedom.....:a20:

Guest 07-21-2016 06:12 AM

I do wonder why would voter ID be a burden to the poor, elderly, and minorities? Are they suggesting these people are too stupid to carry ID?

:sad:

CNM

Guest 07-21-2016 06:22 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257290)
I do wonder why would voter ID be a burden to the poor, elderly, and minorities? Are they suggesting these people are too stupid to carry ID?

:sad:

CNM

What id do you need?

Guest 07-21-2016 06:30 AM

"Additionally, voter ID requirements generally apply to in-person voting, not to absentee ballots or mailed ballots."

So, just stay home and commit the "fraud". The sky is falling. Quote some figures on voter fraud or butt out. It must be in the billions.

Guest 07-21-2016 06:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257290)
I do wonder why would voter ID be a burden to the poor, elderly, and minorities? Are they suggesting these people are too stupid to carry ID?

:sad:

CNM

Doesn't seem to be a problem when it comes to buying beer and cigarettes.

Guest 07-21-2016 06:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257293)
What id do you need?

I need my drivers license when I drive my car...
I need my concealed carry permit when I carry my firearm...

:undecided:

CNM

Guest 07-21-2016 06:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257304)
I lost my license to drive a car...

I need my concealed carry permit to make me feel like a real man...

I need help in being original, because I'm not that smart.


The Fake CNM


It's OK, we already knew that. :1rotfl:


:wave:

The REAL CNM

Guest 07-21-2016 06:53 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257307)
It's OK, we already knew that. :1rotfl:


:wave:

The REAL CNM

I knew it wasn't you. He made a valid point.....:D

Guest 07-21-2016 06:54 AM

I realize it's a pipe dream and unconstitutional, but I would really like to see a study of let's say 200 voters, 4 from each state, that were permitted to vote without photo ID. Run DMV records, see if they have a valid driver's license. Run credit cards (or more likely EBT cards) and see if there were any alcohol or tobacco purchase. Check the video cameras from their local convenience stores looking for the same. Heck, it might be as easy as setting up a camera at the polling place to see how many arrived by driving their own car. Then, if they don't have a license at least they could be arrested for aggravated unlicensed operation, 3rd degree

Guest 07-21-2016 06:57 AM

We won in Texas and in Wisconsin. We are now targeting Florida to change their racist laws. BP :spoken:

Guest 07-21-2016 07:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257296)
"Additionally, voter ID requirements generally apply to in-person voting, not to absentee ballots or mailed ballots."

So, just stay home and commit the "fraud". The sky is falling. Quote some figures on voter fraud or butt out. It must be in the billions.

It's the electronic voting machines, they can be programmed in advance to produce the "correct" winner. That's why nobody cares who votes, the votes don't matter. Remember: It's not who votes or how they vote that matter, it's WHO COUNTS the votes.

electronic voting and fraud - Google Search

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257318)
I realize it's a pipe dream and unconstitutional, but I would really like to see a study of let's say 200 voters, 4 from each state, that were permitted to vote without photo ID. Run DMV records, see if they have a valid driver's license. Run credit cards (or more likely EBT cards) and see if there were any alcohol or tobacco purchase. Check the video cameras from their local convenience stores looking for the same. Heck, it might be as easy as setting up a camera at the polling place to see how many arrived by driving their own car. Then, if they don't have a license at least they could be arrested for aggravated unlicensed operation, 3rd degree

It's racist. At least that's what they'll say. Licenses are racist because they're too hard to get, they're too white.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257320)
We won in Texas and in Wisconsin. We are now targeting Florida to change their racist laws. BP :spoken:

Go ahead, speed up the inevitable decline and collapse of this ONCE GREAT nation by encouraging the losers to determine the tempo. Have THEM begin making the decisions sooner rather than later. They can't run their OWN lives, and you want them having a say in how you run YOUR life? Unbelievable how stupid some people are. BET you are a woman. Only a woman could be PROUD to have such a harmful take on news like this.

Vote early and often to get "your way" by hook or by crook...the ends justifies the means?

You're so foolish...giving this all up to "help" the retarded be "equal".

Guest 07-21-2016 07:41 AM

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Liberals do not want voter ID because it will disenfranchise the dead voters.............

Guest 07-21-2016 07:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257320)
We won in Texas and in Wisconsin. We are now targeting Florida to change their racist laws. BP :spoken:

Congratulations!!!! You win the most idiotic post of this thread award!!!!!:eclipsee_gold_cup::eclipsee_gold_cup::e clipsee_gold_cup:

Take your "racist" BS and place it where the sun does not shine. When you apply for a driver's license, are you required to state if you are black, white, or green??? Have you seen a minority on line at the store buying beer denied the purchase because of race? Perhaps the next flying saucer can give you a ride back to planet Earth.
And that is not to mention the utter hypocrisy of your post. If the Republicans were loading the voting booths with Scandinavian and Scottish voters with no ID, would you feel the same way???? I doubt it.

Guest 07-21-2016 07:54 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257357)
Congratulations!!!! You win the most idiotic post of this thread award!!!!!:eclipsee_gold_cup::eclipsee_gold_cup::e clipsee_gold_cup:

Take your "racist" BS and place it where the sun does not shine. When you apply for a driver's license, are you required to state if you are black, white, or green??? Have you seen a minority on line at the store buying beer denied the purchase because of race? Perhaps the next flying saucer can give you a ride back to planet Earth.
And that is not to mention the utter hypocrisy of your post. If the Republicans were loading the voting booths with Scandinavian and Scottish voters with no ID, would you feel the same way???? I doubt it.

"Win" at any cost...even the destruction of your own nation. "They'll be EQUAL even if we have to destroy everything to do it!"

Guest 07-21-2016 08:19 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257364)
"Win" at any cost...even the destruction of your own nation. "They'll be EQUAL even if we have to destroy everything to do it!"

One problem is the misinterpretation of the Declaration of Independence line "All men are created equal". Read what the founding fathers had to say about it. The meaning was "all men are created equal UNDER THE LAW". It is obvious that we are not all equal. Miss America is prettier. Einstein was smarter. Spieth plays better golf. Lady Gaga sings better. But the difference is talent and actions, not skin color or religion. The equality (is supposed) to come if you are standing before a judge and jury, and justice is blind. Apparently not true if your name is Clinton, and I suspect not true if you are an inner city minority, but it cannot be proven by the bogus statistics put out by the left.

Guest 07-21-2016 08:26 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257379)
One problem is the misinterpretation of the Declaration of Independence line "All men are created equal". Read what the founding fathers had to say about it. The meaning was "all men are created equal UNDER THE LAW". It is obvious that we are not all equal. Miss America is prettier. Einstein was smarter. Spieth plays better golf. Lady Gaga sings better. But the difference is talent and actions, not skin color or religion. The equality (is supposed) to come if you are standing before a judge and jury, and justice is blind. Apparently not true if your name is Clinton, and I suspect not true if you are an inner city minority, but it cannot be proven by the bogus statistics put out by the left.

At the time the "founding fathers" wrote "all men are created equal", there was slavery, in the census a slave did not count as a whole person, women could not vote, only properly owners could vote.

The equality was for white male property owners only.

God given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? How were slaves given liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Guest 07-21-2016 09:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257290)
I do wonder why would voter ID be a burden to the poor, elderly, and minorities? Are they suggesting these people are too stupid to carry ID?

:sad:

CNM

And why is there no burden for these same folks to get a lisence....or get medical care...etc.

Political BS!

Guest 07-21-2016 09:50 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257382)
At the time the "founding fathers" wrote "all men are created equal", there was slavery, in the census a slave did not count as a whole person, women could not vote, only properly owners could vote.

The equality was for white male property owners only.

God given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? How were slaves given liberty and the pursuit of happiness.


Yes, at the time. For thousands of years, slavery, not only of Africans, was considered acceptable. Slaves were property, not people. Then as civilization "evolved" it was no longer acceptable and ex-slaves were now considered people and given equal rights. Same became true of women. Now it is true for gays as well.
So, at least in theory, all lingering prejudices aside, almost everyone is equal in front of a court.
Except, to paraphrase Orwell, --All animals are created equal, only some Clintons are more equal than others

Guest 07-21-2016 10:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257357)
And that is not to mention the utter hypocrisy of your post. If the Republicans were loading the voting booths with Scandinavian and Scottish voters with no ID, would you feel the same way???? I doubt it.



Scandanavian voters vote for socialist programs.

Scots are too stupid to know how to make a mark on a ballot. Only good thing from Scotland is Scotch whisky.

Guest 07-21-2016 10:32 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257454)
Scandanavian voters vote for socialist programs.

Scots are too stupid to know how to make a mark on a ballot. Only good thing from Scotland is Scotch whisky.

Wow! I'm glad I'm not of Scottish or Scandinavian ancestry.
Thank you for sharing your bigoted opinion of millions of people with the rest of us. You better hope the angel at the gates of heaven isn't Scottish.

Guest 07-21-2016 10:40 AM

Felons should be able to vote if even if they are in prison .
Anyone with a Green Card should be able to vote .
Anyone who is 18 or over should be able to vote but they should not need to provide proof of age or any form of ID .
People in comas should be able to vote by proxy --- anyone can be their proxy -- no ID required
Anyone who is a citizen of a foreign country but has at one time visited the US as a Tourist or has thought that they might someday wish to visit the US should be able to Vote via the Internet or by Proxy .
There is no need to prove that any person has the Proxy of another !
All " Trans " people should be able to vote at least twice --- one as a man and once as a woman .

The Real CNM !

Guest 07-21-2016 10:44 AM

Oh I almsot forgot .
Out of respect for the dead their votes will be taken before that of those who can still fog a mirror .
The Polls will be open for the dead from 30 days prior to the Vote of the living .
Anyone who can demonstrate that they are a registered Dem can claim the Proxy of any dead person .

The Real CNM !

Guest 07-21-2016 10:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257475)
Felons should be able to vote if even if they are in prison .
Anyone with a Green Card should be able to vote .
Anyone who is 18 or over should be able to vote but they should not need to provide proof of age or any form of ID .
People in comas should be able to vote by proxy --- anyone can be their proxy -- no ID required
Anyone who is a citizen of a foreign country but has at one time visited the US as a Tourist or has thought that they might someday wish to visit the US should be able to Vote via the Internet or by Proxy .
There is no need to prove that any person has the Proxy of another !
All " Trans " people should be able to vote at least twice --- one as a man and once as a woman .

The Real CNM !

I'd be ROFL if this sadly wasn't the position of many on the left. Maybe Sanders can get it worked into the Democrats platform?

Guest 07-21-2016 10:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257382)
At the time the "founding fathers" wrote "all men are created equal", there was slavery, in the census a slave did not count as a whole person, women could not vote, only properly owners could vote.

The equality was for white male property owners only.

God given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? How were slaves given liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Their were also Black slave owners!

Guest 07-21-2016 11:00 AM

Only about 5% of the people in the South actually had slaves .

During the far majority of the many years of slavery on this continent it existed with the approval and encouragement of the British Monarchy .
Do the math . We were not even a Nation until 1789 . The Federal Gvt was very weak by design until Lincoln . The States were superior to the Federal Gvt .
The Fed Gvt was still fighting off the Brits until 1814 . Yes it took another 51 years for slavery to end which was sad but the Fed Gvt had very limited power to do anything .

Guest 07-21-2016 12:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257382)
At the time the "founding fathers" wrote "all men are created equal", there was slavery, in the census a slave did not count as a whole person, women could not vote, only properly owners could vote.

The equality was for white male property owners only.

God given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? How were slaves given liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

At the time, NOBODY considered blacks as people. Therefore, the rights of people did not apply. They were seen as draft animals, chattel.

The 3/5ths ruling was to limit the impact of slaves on Congressional representation, it was political. Slaves gave the south "too many" representatives due to the slave population. It wasn't for the census.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257431)
Yes, at the time. For thousands of years, slavery, not only of Africans, was considered acceptable. Slaves were property, not people. Then as civilization "evolved" it was no longer acceptable and ex-slaves were now considered people and given equal rights. Same became true of women. Now it is true for gays as well.
So, at least in theory, all lingering prejudices aside, almost everyone is equal in front of a court.
Except, to paraphrase Orwell, --All animals are created equal, only some Clintons are more equal than others

Africans, the one's who sold "us" the slaves, STILL practice slavery, why does nobody mention that?

The slaves were "released" for one reason and one reason only...mechanization. Machinery replaced the slaves, tractors could do the work of 100 men. it wasn't altruism or philanthropy that freed the slaves, it was politics backed up by their mechanized replacements waiting in the wings.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257475)
Felons should be able to vote if even if they are in prison .
Anyone with a Green Card should be able to vote .
Anyone who is 18 or over should be able to vote but they should not need to provide proof of age or any form of ID .
People in comas should be able to vote by proxy --- anyone can be their proxy -- no ID required
Anyone who is a citizen of a foreign country but has at one time visited the US as a Tourist or has thought that they might someday wish to visit the US should be able to Vote via the Internet or by Proxy .
There is no need to prove that any person has the Proxy of another !
All " Trans " people should be able to vote at least twice --- one as a man and once as a woman .

The Real CNM !

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257479)
Oh I almsot forgot .
Out of respect for the dead their votes will be taken before that of those who can still fog a mirror .
The Polls will be open for the dead from 30 days prior to the Vote of the living .
Anyone who can demonstrate that they are a registered Dem can claim the Proxy of any dead person .

The Real CNM !

If voting mattered, they wouldn't let anyone do it, since it doesn't matter, they'll let anyone do it. It does nothing but make you feel good about getting ripped off.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257482)
Their were also Black slave owners!

There still are...plenty of them...in AFRICA! The same people who sold us ours are still enslaving others. And WE'RE the "bad guys"?

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257488)
Only about 5% of the people in the South actually had slaves .

During the far majority of the many years of slavery on this continent it existed with the approval and encouragement of the British Monarchy .
Do the math . We were not even a Nation until 1789 . The Federal Gvt was very weak by design until Lincoln . The States were superior to the Federal Gvt .
The Fed Gvt was still fighting off the Brits until 1814 . Yes it took another 51 years for slavery to end which was sad but the Fed Gvt had very limited power to do anything .

Slavery wasn't popular in the north because the industries were different. In the north you had more of a skilled industrial society, it didn't lend itself well to mindless idiot slaves who couldn't do...well much of anything other than lifting and carrying. The south was a different story and why it had many more slaves, it was agrarian, it relied on slaves to work the vast fields.

In the north slaves were seen as unfair competition, workers who didn't get paid kept the cost of production down. Other business owners didn't want the unfair competition. And here you thought the slave/free state arguments were about human rights and equality...you were wrong.

The slavery issue was a political issue. Lincoln used it to seize state power. Not unlike Constantine using Christianity.

Guest 07-21-2016 02:23 PM

If you know anything about history you should know a lot of black men owned slaves.

Guest 07-21-2016 03:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257562)
If you know anything about history you should know a lot of black men owned slaves.

The FIRST slave owner in America was a black man from Virginia. For some reason, this seems to be kept a secret.

Not that this relates to the thread.

Guest 07-21-2016 04:53 PM

The people making the racists remarks in this post, are you Christians?

Guest 07-21-2016 04:58 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257618)
The people making the racists remarks in this post, are you Christians?

"What difference does it make?" says the wicked witch of Chicago.

Guest 07-21-2016 05:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257618)
The people making the racists remarks in this post, are you Christians?

NO ! We are all CNM !!

Guest 07-21-2016 06:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1257641)
NO! CNM is just totally, completely and irreversibly in our heads!!



:ho:

:wave:


CNM


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