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Guest 08-03-2016 04:37 PM

" Planeload of Cash for Iran " WSJ 8/3/16
 
Headline Article in Today`s Wall Street Journal :

" Tehran freed Americans as U.S. flew in $400 million in foreign bills to settle old claim " .

" The Obama Administration secretly organized an airlift of $400 million worth of cash to Iran that coincided with the January release of four Americans detained in Tehran according to U.S. and European officials and congressional staff briefed on the operation afterwards .

" Wooden pallets staked with euros , Swiss francs and other currencies were flown into Iran on an unmarked cargo plane , according to these officials . "

Senior U.S. officials denied any link between the payment and the prisoner exchange . They say the way the various strands came together simultaneously was coincidental , not the result of any quid pro quo ".

Guest 08-03-2016 05:06 PM

Just another " head-shaker ". No end to how the Obama / Clinton / Dem Mafia operates .

Guest 08-03-2016 05:13 PM

Same with this article -- just Right Wing Tool this so called newspaper . Why should we not be surprised .

Guest 08-03-2016 05:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1265822)
Same with this article -- just Right Wing Tool this so called newspaper . Why should we not be surprised .

Amazing you can form an opinion considering how deep your head is buried in the sand. Cash arrived the same day of the hostage release. Confidence. Really????

Guest 08-03-2016 06:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1265822)
Same with this article -- just Right Wing Tool this so called newspaper . Why should we not be surprised .

$400M Payment to Iran as Americans Freed Not a Ransom: White House - NBC News

A liberal paper for you, so you won't be blinded when you read it.

Four hundred million bucks for four released prisoners. One hundred million each. Time to get into hostage taking.

Guest 08-03-2016 07:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1265822)
Same with this article -- just Right Wing Tool this so called newspaper . Why should we not be surprised .

WSJ = Rupert Murdoch

Guest 08-03-2016 07:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1265880)
WSJ = Rupert Murdoch


Yes -- " The Wall Street Journal " :

Nothing but biased reporting for over 100 years .

No one reads it anymore except a few Nerds / Geeks .

Guest 08-03-2016 09:13 PM

Cash for Terrorists : Brought to us by the LEAST Transparent Administration in modern history .

Guest 08-03-2016 09:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1265930)
Cash for Terrorists : Brought to us by the LEAST Transparent Administration in modern history .

:bigbow:

Guest 08-03-2016 10:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1265828)
Amazing you can form an opinion considering how deep your head is buried in the sand. Cash arrived the same day of the hostage release. Confidence. Really????

Ahhhh....I don't think the sand is where the head is buried!!

Guest 08-04-2016 03:49 AM

They always have an excuse. They can justify ANY law broken. The FBI told the administration NOT to do it, then they came back later and said that they still supported the administration doing it.

Guest 08-04-2016 11:35 PM

Now we learn that the plane taking the hostages out was not allowed to leave until after the cash arrived .

Source ? Look it up for yourself .

And NOW a useless word from CNM ................

Guest 08-05-2016 06:01 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1266631)
Now we learn that the plane taking the hostages out was not allowed to leave until after the cash arrived .

Source ? Look it up for yourself .

And NOW a useless word from CNM ................

Still living in your head rent free I see. :thumbup:

While I believe the money was in fact part of the payment for the nuclear deal reached (with more to come) than paying $100M for each of four hostages, I also think the timing of making the first payment was really dumb on the Administration's part.

Although I think they should have made it further apart from the hostage release date, to some of the right-wingnuts even a month difference would have still initiated the conspiracy theory of ransom for the hostages...so it wouldn't have really mattered anyway. :shrug:


:wave:

CNM

Guest 08-05-2016 06:17 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1265817)
Just another " head-shaker ". No end to how the Obama / Clinton / Dem Mafia operates .

It's true, the donald saw the plane deliver the cash. LOL What an imbecile trump is. It's the start of Alzheimers, just like Reagan.

Guest 08-05-2016 07:57 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1265822)
Same with this article -- just Right Wing Tool this so called newspaper . Why should we not be surprised .

Unfortunately, your CLOSED MIND is obvious.

CHECK and you will discover that the WALL STREET JOURNAL is not right wing.

But, then for those of us who cannot separate FACT from our preconceived OPINION-it is a waste of time replying.

Guest 08-05-2016 08:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1266706)
Unfortunately, your CLOSED MIND is obvious.

CHECK and you will discover that the WALL STREET JOURNAL is not right wing.

But, then for those of us who cannot separate FACT from our preconceived OPINION-it is a waste of time replying.

Here's a fact. The WSJ is owned by News Corp.

Guest 08-05-2016 09:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1266656)
Still living in your head rent free I see. :thumbup:

While I believe the money was in fact part of the payment for the nuclear deal reached (with more to come) than paying $100M for each of four hostages, I also think the timing of making the first payment was really dumb on the Administration's part.

Although I think they should have made it further apart from the hostage release date, to some of the right-wingnuts even a month difference would have still initiated the conspiracy theory of ransom for the hostages...so it wouldn't have really mattered anyway. :shrug:


:wave:

CNM

Actually, regardless of why they gave them that money, they should not have agreed to give them the money at all. Even if it was money via their nuclear arms agreement, they should not have given that money back. Who cares what they think? They are radicals and will do as they choose anyway. To believe you can trust that agreement is to prove to them that America is weak.
Apparently, some folks do not remember the embassy hostage situation that was an embarrassment to Carter.

Guest 08-05-2016 11:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1266777)
Actually, regardless of why they gave them that money, they should not have agreed to give them the money at all. Even if it was money via their nuclear arms agreement, they should not have given that money back. Who cares what they think? They are radicals and will do as they choose anyway. To believe you can trust that agreement is to prove to them that America is weak.
Apparently, some folks do not remember the embassy hostage situation that was an embarrassment to Carter.

Good Post . Carter became feckless and was embarrassed each and every day during the Hostage Crisis .
It led to his reelection loss to Reagan and that is how the system should work .
Ford although a very fine man and a long time hard working Congressman was tagged with for a bad economy and rampent inflation .
Remember the silly " WIN " Buttons he introduced ? Stood for
" Whip Inflation Now " which was about as helpful as a rabbit`s foot !
So Ford got " Whipped " by Carter . When Carter allowed himself to become a victim to the Middle-East powers and the economy and inflation worsened --- remember when the Prime Rate was around 18 to 19% ?

The Voters invited Carter to find other employment and gave the reign to Reagan .

And frankly that is what should happen this time but " this time " may end up being the exception which could easily make HRC a one term president .

Guest 08-05-2016 01:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1266734)
Here's a fact. The WSJ is owned by News Corp.

Here`s a fact : The Washington Post is owned by very liberal

Jeff Bezos who believes that his Internet success has made him an expert at politics .

Guest 08-05-2016 02:02 PM

Very Liberal " NY Times "is owned and controlled by Mexican Businessman and America hater " Carlos Slim ".

Shall we continue ............. ?

Guest 08-05-2016 02:16 PM

The " Optics " on this story get worse and worse each passing day . Also the efforts of the State Department " Talking Head " would be hilarious if was not trying to be serious .

Guest 08-05-2016 04:30 PM

No one could have made such a story up it so defies believability .

Guest 08-05-2016 04:35 PM

Obama Bribed Iran $400 Million to Release U.S. Prisoners : snopes.com

Maybe it's an optical illusion.

Guest 08-05-2016 04:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1267038)

All that site does is to " parrot " the Administration`s Talking Points and then you "pointy heads " point to it as the final arbiter of " Truth ".

What a CROCK ---- Snopes is more like Pravda than Pravda was .

Guest 08-05-2016 04:57 PM

Even that talking Head from the Dept of State had difficulty trying to explain this w/out laughing at himself .

Guest 08-05-2016 05:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1267042)
All that site does is to " parrot " the Administration`s Talking Points and then you "pointy heads " point to it as the final arbiter of " Truth ".

What a CROCK ---- Snopes is more like Pravda than Pravda was .

Show the group where Snopes has it wrong and you may get some traction with that theory.

Of course that may require reading for information, suggesting a counter point and providing sources. It's not as easy as saying Hillery wears too many pants suits.

Guest 08-05-2016 07:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1267061)
Show the group where Snopes has it wrong and you may get some traction with that theory.

Of course that may require reading for information, suggesting a counter point and providing sources. It's not as easy as saying Hillery wears too many pants suits.


Troll Bait

Guest 08-05-2016 08:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1267122)
Troll Bait

Why say anything?

No one expected you to say "I'll pass because it's too much work?"

That's what everyone is thinking when you say troll.

Guest 08-05-2016 08:08 PM

This smells no matter what logo you have on your cap .

Guest 08-05-2016 08:26 PM

This issue isn`t just going to " blow over ".

Guest 08-05-2016 08:37 PM

What really bothers me is that the Obama administration believes that we are STUPID enough to believe it. I guess some are.

Guest 08-06-2016 04:02 AM

You'll never get a truthful answer from this "transparent" administration. Nope, no corruption here folks.

Guest 08-06-2016 09:36 AM

Day after day and month after month and lie after lie and the Citizens just accept it with nary a whimper .

Guest 08-06-2016 11:53 AM

For some reason, the media is conveniently forgetting Obama has an established history of paying ransom for hostages. Remember he traded 5 top level terrorists from Gitmo for a worthless army deserter.

Guest 08-06-2016 12:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1267382)
For some reason, the media is conveniently forgetting Obama has an established history of paying ransom for hostages. Remember he traded 5 top level terrorists from Gitmo for a worthless army deserter.

Excellent point !

Guest 08-06-2016 12:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1267311)
Day after day and month after month and lie after lie and the Citizens just accept it with nary a whimper .

No wonder Eastwood thinks you're all pussys.
Who talks like that?

Guest 08-06-2016 12:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1267382)
For some reason, the media is conveniently forgetting Obama has an established history of paying ransom for hostages. Remember he traded 5 top level terrorists from Gitmo for a worthless army deserter.

Unless the intelligence he gets does not come from the Fox News Team.

Guest 08-06-2016 01:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1267412)
No wonder Eastwood thinks you're all pussys.
Who talks like that?

Well educated people speak that way from time to time . Apparently you only know people who can speak with " dis ", " dem " , " dos " , " der " and four letter cuss words .

Guest 08-06-2016 01:01 PM

And " dats " .

Guest 08-06-2016 01:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1267311)
Day after day and month after month and lie after lie and the Citizens just accept it with nary a whimper .

And they KEEP voting for them over and over too...thinking THIS TIME it WILL be different. Go ahead, vote for Trump and see if anything changes. A vote for Hillary means you threw in the towel and you give up...take whatever you want from me.


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