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Guest 08-11-2016 04:36 PM

Seniors pay twice
 
We raised our own kids, sacrificing along the way. Now that we do not have that burden along comes Crooked Hillary telling us we now have to pay for the "Village" to raise someone else's kids. DAY CARE, PRE K AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, AND FREE COLLEGE, all of which we will pay through increased taxes.

Guest 08-11-2016 04:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270199)
We raised our own kids, sacrificing along the way. Now that we do not have that burden along comes Crooked Hillary telling us we now have to pay for the "Village" to raise someone else's kids. DAY CARE, PRE K AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, AND FREE COLLEGE, all of which we will pay through increased taxes.

Excellent points and of course many many of the kids in question have " Baby Mamas " who have 5 children with 5 different " Baby Daddy`s " some of whom " be in prison " . :crap2:

Guest 08-11-2016 04:59 PM

Woman with ten sons name Leroy. Call them all for dinner she calls Leroys. Wants just one she calls him by his last name.

Guest 08-11-2016 05:08 PM

Good friend of mine was doing his residency at the University of Michigan .
A very young teenage mother had just given birth to twins after a lengthy and difficult labor .
Later when she had recovered he stopped in to check on her . There was a dinner tray next to her bed .
He asked her what she was going to name her twin baby boys --- " I got no idea " she giggled .
My friend noticed two different containers of Jello on her tray and just for the fun of it he said " How about " Or-ange-ello " and " Lem-on-gello " and she repeated his tounge-in -cheek offering and said " those be good names that be them" !
AS he said to me at the time " in about 10 years I`m going to be looking for a college football player named " Orange-ello " and a basketball player named " Lemon-gello " to show up some Saturday on my TV screen .

Guest 08-11-2016 05:20 PM

Obama is about to proceed with waiving government school loans that going to cost taxpayers in the millions and millions. The basis for forgiveness is that these students claim that they could not get a job. A college education use to be solely to teach kids how to think that is education for the sake of education itself.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 08-11-2016 05:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270199)
We raised our own kids, sacrificing along the way. Now that we do not have that burden along comes Crooked Hillary telling us we now have to pay for the "Village" to raise someone else's kids. DAY CARE, PRE K AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, AND FREE COLLEGE, all of which we will pay through increased taxes.



The price we pay for being human.

Guest 08-11-2016 05:28 PM

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Obama is about to proceed with waiving government school loans that going to cost taxpayers in the millions and millions. The basis for forgiveness is that these students claim that they could not get a job. A college education use to be solely to teach kids how to think that is education for the sake of education itself.



Personal Best Regards:



I bailed on college to get nuclear training in the Navy. They paid, I made.

Guest 08-11-2016 06:00 PM

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The price we pay for being human.

The price we pay for being a taxpayer!

Guest 08-11-2016 06:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270226)
Good friend of mine was doing his residency at the University of Michigan .
A very young teenage mother had just given birth to twins after a lengthy and difficult labor .
Later when she had recovered he stopped in to check on her . There was a dinner tray next to her bed .
He asked her what she was going to name her twin baby boys --- " I got no idea " she giggled .
My friend noticed two different containers of Jello on her tray and just for the fun of it he said " How about " Or-ange-ello " and " Lem-on-gello " and she repeated his tounge-in -cheek offering and said " those be good names that be them" !
AS he said to me at the time " in about 10 years I`m going to be looking for a college football player named " Orange-ello " and a basketball player named " Lemon-gello " to show up some Saturday on my TV screen .

It's more likely that you will see them on the evening news.

Guest 08-11-2016 07:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270226)
Good friend of mine was doing his residency at the University of Michigan .
A very young teenage mother had just given birth to twins after a lengthy and difficult labor .
Later when she had recovered he stopped in to check on her . There was a dinner tray next to her bed .
He asked her what she was going to name her twin baby boys --- " I got no idea " she giggled .
My friend noticed two different containers of Jello on her tray and just for the fun of it he said " How about " Or-ange-ello " and " Lem-on-gello " and she repeated his tounge-in -cheek offering and said " those be good names that be them" !
AS he said to me at the time " in about 10 years I`m going to be looking for a college football player named " Orange-ello " and a basketball player named " Lemon-gello " to show up some Saturday on my TV screen .

Your story has been around for a long time. Nice attempt to personalize it.

You know those twins named Lemonjello and Oranjello?

Guest 08-11-2016 07:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270284)
Your story has been around for a long time. Nice attempt to personalize it.

You know those twins named Lemonjello and Oranjello?

Actually my friend told me the story probably 20 years ago and up until today I actually believed him !

He is a graduate of Harvard Medical School and did his Fellowship at University of Michigan in pediatric surgery .
Today he is the Chief Medical Officer at a very famous hospital .
I am going to send him an email and " give him the business " .

Guest 08-11-2016 07:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270299)
Actually my friend told me the story probably 20 years ago and up until today I actually believed him !

He is a graduate of Harvard Medical School and did his Fellowship at University of Michigan in pediatric surgery .
Today he is the Chief Medical Officer at a very famous hospital .
I am going to send him an email and " give him the business " .

Ha ha ! I just followed the link . I`m going to copy it and send it to him right now ----- he`s busted !

Guest 08-11-2016 08:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270199)
We raised our own kids, sacrificing along the way. Now that we do not have that burden along comes Crooked Hillary telling us we now have to pay for the "Village" to raise someone else's kids. DAY CARE, PRE K AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, AND FREE COLLEGE, all of which we will pay through increased taxes.

Not to worry, without a real balanced budget amendment it will not cost you a cent, just get passed to our grandchildren like last 20 years.

Guest 08-11-2016 08:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270326)
Not to worry, without a real balanced budget amendment it will not cost you a cent, just get passed to our grandchildren like last 20 years.

Perhaps but dollars are fungible so we cannot make that claim

Guest 08-11-2016 08:16 PM

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Excellent points and of course many many of the kids in question have " Baby Mamas " who have 5 children with 5 different " Baby Daddy`s " some of whom " be in prison " . :crap2:

A minority baby boom is taking place, from age 6 down THEY are the majority...this is our future, a majority of 3rd worlders!

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270226)
Good friend of mine was doing his residency at the University of Michigan .
A very young teenage mother had just given birth to twins after a lengthy and difficult labor .
Later when she had recovered he stopped in to check on her . There was a dinner tray next to her bed .
He asked her what she was going to name her twin baby boys --- " I got no idea " she giggled .
My friend noticed two different containers of Jello on her tray and just for the fun of it he said " How about " Or-ange-ello " and " Lem-on-gello " and she repeated his tounge-in -cheek offering and said " those be good names that be them" !
AS he said to me at the time " in about 10 years I`m going to be looking for a college football player named " Orange-ello " and a basketball player named " Lemon-gello " to show up some Saturday on my TV screen .

You'll see their names on the news...as another failure. Less than 1% amount to anything.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270235)
Obama is about to proceed with waiving government school loans that going to cost taxpayers in the millions and millions. The basis for forgiveness is that these students claim that they could not get a job. A college education use to be solely to teach kids how to think that is education for the sake of education itself.

Personal Best Regards:

You're not even CLOSE! There are $trillions in student loans, these defaults will cost $billions and $billions.

They suckered minorities to take the easy money for school. They weren't capable even with quotas, and dropped out, unable to get a job, they can't pay.

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The price we pay for being human.

The price we pay for trying to drag non-humans along with us.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270326)
Not to worry, without a real balanced budget amendment it will not cost you a cent, just get passed to our grandchildren like last 20 years.

Yup, they'll be borrowing over $2 trillion a year soon.

And you wonder why interest rates are so low...so the government can make their "minimum payment" of over $600,000,000,000 a year.

Guest 08-12-2016 01:11 PM

Oh, how about that Medicare program...just how much does that cost? Trillions. With all the numerous prescriptions, unneeded tests, not to mention nursing home care, that some have given their assets to family so the government, taxpayer can pick up the tab.

I think that they should kill everyone over 65, problem solved.

Guest 08-12-2016 01:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270647)
Oh, how about that Medicare program...just how much does that cost? Trillions. With all the numerous prescriptions, unneeded tests, not to mention nursing home care, that some have given their assets to family so the government, taxpayer can pick up the tab.

I think that they should kill everyone over 65, problem solved.

When you reach the age of 65, you can always step in front of a moving bus - problem solved.

Guest 08-12-2016 02:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270647)
Oh, how about that Medicare program...just how much does that cost? Trillions. With all the numerous prescriptions, unneeded tests, not to mention nursing home care, that some have given their assets to family so the government, taxpayer can pick up the tab.

I think that they should kill everyone over 65, problem solved.

It is obvious that you know NOTHING of Medicare. Medicare that you pay for all your working life, pays ONLY for hospitalization. Not doctor visits, and not prescriptions. So, if you are like me that has private insurance that pays everything, you really do not need Medicare. So, how much have I wasted being taxed for Medicare?

Guest 08-12-2016 05:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270199)
We raised our own kids, sacrificing along the way. Now that we do not have that burden along comes Crooked Hillary telling us we now have to pay for the "Village" to raise someone else's kids. DAY CARE, PRE K AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, AND FREE COLLEGE, all of which we will pay through increased taxes.

You are kidding with this "we" statement. The tax increase that she is putting forward only effects the super rich. If you are one, what are you doing living in the villages? You should have ocean front property in a million dollar + home. Then, you could sit there with your rich crowd, and bitch about how hard things are for you.

Guest 08-12-2016 06:51 PM

We now live on country that's giving everything away for votes. There no stopping it. You can't compete with free and open borders. All for the democrat to have TOTAL control.

Guest 08-12-2016 07:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270821)
We now live on country that's giving everything away for votes. There no stopping it. You can't compete with free and open borders. All for the democrat to have TOTAL control.

That's not true.

Guest 08-12-2016 07:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270838)
That's not true.

Oh my, you must get your head out of your @ss,
because it is very true!

Guest 08-12-2016 07:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270774)
You are kidding with this "we" statement. The tax increase that she is putting forward only effects the super rich. If you are one, what are you doing living in the villages? You should have ocean front property in a million dollar + home. Then, you could sit there with your rich crowd, and bitch about how hard things are for you.

It is not possible to fund all the increased
government programs simply by taxing the
so-called super rich, everyone knows this but you!
Haven't you caught on that Hillary is a liar!

Guest 08-12-2016 07:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270841)
Oh my, you must get your head out of your @ss,
because it is very true!

What we know about illegal immigration from Mexico | Pew Research Center

Do you ever do any reading?

The head and the ass thing. Are you joking or being sarcastic? It's hard to tell anymore.

Guest 08-12-2016 08:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270821)
We now live on country that's giving everything away for votes. There no stopping it. You can't compete with free and open borders. All for the democrat to have TOTAL control.

You are 100% correct with your comment that the country is giving everything away for votes. I'm not completely on board with borders but understand. You are also correct "you can't compete with free".

Guest 08-12-2016 09:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270843)
It is not possible to fund all the increased
government programs simply by taxing the
so-called super rich, everyone knows this but you!
Haven't you caught on that Hillary is a liar!

Maybe you should go back and look at his post. He was crying that his taxes were going to go up to pay for Hillary's programs. That is not the case.

Maybe you haven't caught all politicians forever have been lying. It is the nature of the beast. "Lying" maybe be a too strong a word, but probably not. They present numbers to back up their proposals that always can be questioned. They make assumption to suit their needs.

Hillary's programs have been look at by independent group. Her proposals increase the debt under 500 billion over ten years. Trump proposals will increase the debt 7 to 9 trillion over ten years. Don't worry Trump will revise his proposals, and say he was just kidding with the first proposals. He had to get everyone's attention.

Rule one in politics say anything or do anything to get elected. Then run for reelection on your record. Lying certainly falls into the anything category.

Guest 08-12-2016 09:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270821)
We now live on country that's giving everything away for votes. There no stopping it. You can't compete with free and open borders. All for the democrat to have TOTAL control.

You know a better way for the Democrats to get TOTAL control. It is for the Republicans to have Trump as the nominee. Democrats will hope for an encore performance with Cruz in 2020.

The Democrats are not going to gain control of the house until 2020's. That will only happen if they do something about Gerrymandering.

Guest 08-12-2016 09:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270844)
What we know about illegal immigration from Mexico | Pew Research Center

Do you ever do any reading?

The head and the ass thing. Are you joking or being sarcastic? It's hard to tell anymore.

The average person is so brainwashed by the Clinton media machine. Let me make it simple, media works for Clinton, Clinton works for media, they are one and the same. The institutions all work together for each, against change, against trump.

The pew research group has given to the Clinton foundation and has gotten favors for the secretary of state. Do your own research, here is a start....181 Clinton Foundation donors who lobbied Hillary's State Department - Vox

Guest 08-12-2016 09:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270774)
You are kidding with this "we" statement. The tax increase that she is putting forward only effects the super rich. If you are one, what are you doing living in the villages? You should have ocean front property in a million dollar + home. Then, you could sit there with your rich crowd, and bitch about how hard things are for you.

Have you looked at her tax plan? Actually My Villages home is just one of many. I have beach properties as well. I bought here because I like it here. It has zero to do with my net worth. I do not bitch about my success, I celebrate it and thank God every day every day and I share it with others. I do not need the Government to redistribute it for me. I saw what happened to the trillion in Stimulus which never made it to the shovel ready projects so Hollary is trying it again. I see from your comments that you are fooled again.

Guest 08-12-2016 09:22 PM

*from the secretary of state

Guest 08-12-2016 09:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270877)
Have you looked at her tax plan? Actually My Villages home is just one of many. I have beach properties as well. I bought here because I like it here. It has zero to do with my net worth. I do not bitch about my success, I celebrate it and thank God every day every day and I share it with others. I do not need the Government to redistribute it for me. I saw what happened to the trillion in Stimulus which never made it to the shovel ready projects so Hollary is trying it again. I see from your comments that you are fooled again.

We are honored to be in your company.

The top 0.1 percent was composed of 160,000 families with average wealth of $72.8 million. All told, they owned 22 percent of the nation’s wealth.

Meanwhile, the bottom 90 percent -- 144 million families with average wealth of $84,000 -- owned only 22.8 percent of the wealth.

Where did the middle class go? The old ones, boomers went to the villages.

Guest 08-12-2016 09:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270871)
Maybe you should go back and look at his post. He was crying that his taxes were going to go up to pay for Hillary's programs. That is not the case.

Maybe you haven't caught all politicians forever have been lying. It is the nature of the beast. "Lying" maybe be a too strong a word, but probably not. They present numbers to back up their proposals that always can be questioned. They make assumption to suit their needs.

Hillary's programs have been look at by independent group. Her proposals increase the debt under 500 billion over ten years. Trump proposals will increase the debt 7 to 9 trillion over ten years. Don't worry Trump will revise his proposals, and say he was just kidding with the first proposals. He had to get everyone's attention.

Rule one in politics say anything or do anything to get elected. Then run for reelection on your record. Lying certainly falls into the anything category.


Maybe you should look at my original post and stop distorting it. Hillary will make all of us pay again for things we already paid for raising and educating our own families.

Guest 08-12-2016 09:38 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270880)
We are honored to be in your company.

The top 0.1 percent was composed of 160,000 families with average wealth of $72.8 million. All told, they owned 22 percent of the nation’s wealth.

Meanwhile, the bottom 90 percent -- 144 million families with average wealth of $84,000 -- owned only 22.8 percent of the wealth.

Where did the middle class go? The old ones, boomers went to the villages.

Maybe this will answer part of it.


Workers have not seen increases in wages in the last 20 years which coincides somewhat what the creation of The Village raising your child. The reality is that we pushed married women into the workforce at an alarming rate and employers took full of advantage of this. The concept of supply and demand works 100% of the time so the more workers the lower the salaries. As costs began to rise out pacing wages, the mantra became that we need two people to carry the load which in essence was an accurate statement. However had not two members of the family been working, there would've been fewer workers and higher salaries, perhaps as much as 50% higher. Add this It is to lower tax brackets and lower taxes and no need for expensive childcare etc. and we would have been better off in the system that worked for a hundred years where one family member stayed home to raise the family and not be put in the Village Day Care where you drop your kids off to be handled ( not nurtured) by some of the lowest paid workers in Society where turnover rates are horrific.

Women's liberation has been a disaster for our country and the financial effects are still being felt. You notice the word Liberation is no longer used since no one was liberated while kids are in prison like Day Care away from their mothers.

Supporters of Women's Liberation were saying they wanted equal rights not special rights however they are continually demanding special rights such as the cost of raising children (FREE PRE K, DAY CARE, AFTER SCHOOL, ETC.)has been transferred to all taxpayers especially seniors, instead of remaining with the family.

How ironic is it that the only mothers you see taking care of their children are those immigrant women who are having loads of kids supported by government largess while The modern woman is limiting the number of children she has and at the age of three months turns them over to someone else to race.

Guest 08-12-2016 10:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270882)
Maybe this will answer part of it.


Workers have not seen increases in wages in the last 20 years which coincides somewhat what the creation of The Village raising your child. The reality is that we pushed married women into the workforce at an alarming rate and employers took full of advantage of this. The concept of supply and demand works 100% of the time so the more workers the lower the salaries. As costs began to rise out pacing wages, the mantra became that we need two people to carry the load which in essence was an accurate statement. However had not two members of the family been working, there would've been fewer workers and higher salaries, perhaps as much as 50% higher. Add this It is to lower tax brackets and lower taxes and no need for expensive childcare etc. and we would have been better off in the system that worked for a hundred years where one family member stayed home to raise the family and not be put in the Village Day Care where you drop your kids off to be handled ( not nurtured) by some of the lowest paid workers in Society where turnover rates are horrific.

Women's liberation has been a disaster for our country and the financial effects are still being felt. You notice the word Liberation is no longer used since no one was liberated while kids are in prison like Day Care away from their mothers.

Supporters of Women's Liberation were saying they wanted equal rights not special rights however they are continually demanding special rights such as the cost of raising children (FREE PRE K, DAY CARE, AFTER SCHOOL, ETC.)has been transferred to all taxpayers especially seniors, instead of remaining with the family.

How ironic is it that the only mothers you see taking care of their children are those immigrant women who are having loads of kids supported by government largess while The modern woman is limiting the number of children she has and at the age of three months turns them over to someone else to race.

Your head is stuck where the sun don't shine. Keep it there.

Uncle Junior

Guest 08-12-2016 11:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270844)
What we know about illegal immigration from Mexico | Pew Research Center

Do you ever do any reading?

The head and the ass thing. Are you joking or being sarcastic? It's hard to tell anymore.

That's about the biggest bull**** I've ever read. So, drops few hundred thousand, STILL millions hopping the border. And guess what parties they will evidently vote for? the pandering party for votes. DEMORATS.

Guest 08-13-2016 06:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270821)
We now live on country that's giving everything away for votes. There no stopping it. You can't compete with free and open borders. All for the democrat to have TOTAL control.

From age 6 down...minorities are the majority

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270844)
What we know about illegal immigration from Mexico | Pew Research Center

Do you ever do any reading?

The head and the ass thing. Are you joking or being sarcastic? It's hard to tell anymore.

Hispanics are the MAJORITY from age 6 down.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270882)
Maybe this will answer part of it.


Workers have not seen increases in wages in the last 20 years which coincides somewhat what the creation of The Village raising your child. The reality is that we pushed married women into the workforce at an alarming rate and employers took full of advantage of this. The concept of supply and demand works 100% of the time so the more workers the lower the salaries. As costs began to rise out pacing wages, the mantra became that we need two people to carry the load which in essence was an accurate statement. However had not two members of the family been working, there would've been fewer workers and higher salaries, perhaps as much as 50% higher. Add this It is to lower tax brackets and lower taxes and no need for expensive childcare etc. and we would have been better off in the system that worked for a hundred years where one family member stayed home to raise the family and not be put in the Village Day Care where you drop your kids off to be handled ( not nurtured) by some of the lowest paid workers in Society where turnover rates are horrific.

Women's liberation has been a disaster for our country and the financial effects are still being felt. You notice the word Liberation is no longer used since no one was liberated while kids are in prison like Day Care away from their mothers.

Supporters of Women's Liberation were saying they wanted equal rights not special rights however they are continually demanding special rights such as the cost of raising children (FREE PRE K, DAY CARE, AFTER SCHOOL, ETC.)has been transferred to all taxpayers especially seniors, instead of remaining with the family.

How ironic is it that the only mothers you see taking care of their children are those immigrant women who are having loads of kids supported by government largess while The modern woman is limiting the number of children she has and at the age of three months turns them over to someone else to race.

Yup, a 3rd world loser is RAISING our children!

Yes, it has been a DISASTER...nothing is BETTER now compared to then.

They want their cake AND eat it too. They want "wquality" and also keep their "feminine perks".

Immigrants, 3rd worlders are raising, teaching our kids.


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That's about the biggest bull**** I've ever read. So, drops few hundred thousand, STILL millions hopping the border. And guess what parties they will evidently vote for? the pandering party for votes. DEMORATS.

They're breeding us out!

Thay keep harping on "illegals" that are here. They don't mention the millions and millions of anchor babies that are "citizens". We're being invaded, below age 6 THEY are the MAJORITY.

Guest 08-13-2016 06:11 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270893)
That's about the biggest bull**** I've ever read. So, drops few hundred thousand, STILL millions hopping the border. And guess what parties they will evidently vote for? the pandering party for votes. DEMORATS.

So, is your sky falling? You don't feel safe?

Guest 08-13-2016 06:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270925)
So, is your sky falling? You don't feel safe?

It is...hispanics are the MAJORITY from age 6 down.

Not outside the bubble...the country is becoming "seedy" as minorities become the majority.

Guest 08-13-2016 01:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1270235)
Obama is about to proceed with waiving government school loans that going to cost taxpayers in the millions and millions. The basis for forgiveness is that these students claim that they could not get a job. A college education use to be solely to teach kids how to think that is education for the sake of education itself.

Personal Best Regards:

Yes, but you love trump giving the 1% a big tax break. Who do you think is going to pay for it, it's you. Oh, trickle down will do it LOL ask Kansas about that.

Guest 08-13-2016 03:24 PM

We are a Nation heading full tilt toward perpetual single party rule . Same as in other totalitarian states .


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