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Guest 08-16-2016 02:52 PM

It's just a 2-point race, Clinton 38%, Trump 36%
 
The convention polling bumps for Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton and Republican Donald Trump are over, and they are practically even, according to a new poll of likely voters.

A Zogby Analytics survey provided to Secrets Tuesday shows:

Hillary Clinton 38%

Donald Trump 36%

https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HB...kpDoEcWEML35mA

Guest 08-16-2016 05:51 PM

From the survey linked above:
Another interesting development is over the years we have tracked voting habits among NASCAR fans and Weekly WalMart shoppers. Ten years ago these groups tended to slant conservative and Republican. That trend has been reversed during the Obama Presidency, and these consumers tend to be more liberal and supporters of Democrats today. Trump has reversed this trend. Both NASCAR fans and WalMart shoppers favor Trump over Clinton. Donald Trump is winning NASCAR fans (44% to 36%) and weekly WalMart shoppers 41% to 36%.

Guest 08-16-2016 05:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1272895)
The convention polling bumps for Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton and Republican Donald Trump are over, and they are practically even, according to a new poll of likely voters.

A Zogby Analytics survey provided to Secrets Tuesday shows:

Hillary Clinton 38%

Donald Trump 36%

https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HB...kpDoEcWEML35mA

Just keep in mind. This is an ONLINE POLL

Guest 08-16-2016 08:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1272895)
The convention polling bumps for Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton and Republican Donald Trump are over, and they are practically even, according to a new poll of likely voters.

A Zogby Analytics survey provided to Secrets Tuesday shows:

Hillary Clinton 38%

Donald Trump 36%

https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HB...kpDoEcWEML35mA


oh my someone found an outlier.

Guest 08-16-2016 08:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1272962)
From the survey linked above:
Another interesting development is over the years we have tracked voting habits among NASCAR fans and Weekly WalMart shoppers. Ten years ago these groups tended to slant conservative and Republican. That trend has been reversed during the Obama Presidency, and these consumers tend to be more liberal and supporters of Democrats today. Trump has reversed this trend. Both NASCAR fans and WalMart shoppers favor Trump over Clinton. Donald Trump is winning NASCAR fans (44% to 36%) and weekly WalMart shoppers 41% to 36%.

Trump has a commanding lead on old white people who despise change and people not white like them. He also leads with people who fly the confederate flags on their pickups. And has a commanding lead over people who have few teeth left. He also leads with all Village Residents who have their 40 year old kids living back with mom and dad and causing trouble in the Bubble.

Guest 08-16-2016 09:25 PM

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It's just a 2-point race, Clinton 38%, Trump 36%

Yeah riiiiiight! :1rotfl:...:1rotfl:...:1rotfl:


Good one. :thumbup:





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CNM

Guest 08-16-2016 10:10 PM

If Trump has thousands turn out for his rallies, and Hillary has a hard time getting a hundred or so to show up, how does she expect to get a voter turnout in order to win in Nov? Trump is the obvious winner.

Guest 08-16-2016 10:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273096)
If Trump has thousands turn out for his rallies, and Hillary has a hard time getting a hundred or so to show up, how does she expect to get a voter turnout in order to win in Nov? Trump is the obvious winner.

Just because right-wingnut zealots show up to kneel at their demigod, certainly doesn't indicate what the broad middle of this great country are dumb enough to vote for him.

The party will end early in the evening on 8th for Trump.

You can bank on it. :thumbup:


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CNM

Guest 08-17-2016 03:08 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273096)
If Trump has thousands turn out for his rallies, and Hillary has a hard time getting a hundred or so to show up, how does she expect to get a voter turnout in order to win in Nov? Trump is the obvious winner.

any study of the history of American politics and the size of your crowd vs your election results will readily show that one means nothing to the other.

8 years ago McCain was getting big loud crowds mostly like to quitter Sarah Palin. We know how that turned out.

Guest 08-17-2016 03:22 AM

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...tion-forecast/

Guest 08-17-2016 03:22 AM

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...tion-forecast/

Guest 08-17-2016 03:49 AM

I prefer to wait and have the law of large numbers speak, meaning we will know on election day. Polls are not meant to be accurate only used as propaganda for those pitching their candidate. Beside its still a long way to November and anything can happen in politics

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 08-17-2016 07:14 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273107)
any study of the history of American politics and the size of your crowd vs your election results will readily show that one means nothing to the other.

8 years ago McCain was getting big loud crowds mostly like to quitter Sarah Palin. We know how that turned out.

History excludes Trump

he's a new phenomenon.

Not sure if McCains crowds were as large.

Trump has hit I think 35,000 at times

Guest 08-17-2016 07:28 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273103)
Just because right-wingnut zealots show up to kneel at their demigod, certainly doesn't indicate what the broad middle of this great country are dumb enough to vote for him.

The party will end early in the evening on 8th for Trump.

You can bank on it. :thumbup:


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CNM

Not in your bank, that's for sure. You enjoy calling conservative "right-wing zealots" but you think you are slurring them. It's a compliment, and you don't even realize it. On the other hand, liberals are socialists and that really is a slur, a truth but still a slur. Socialism is not American, therefore when someone suggests that you are a socialist, you are being compared to a soviet commie.

Your excuse for Hillary's poor rally showing is pretty pitiful. If it is an indication of a left side motivated voter turnout, then you have a lot of work cut out for your side. If Trump's large rally turnouts are indicative of voter support, then once again, the left has a lot of work to do if they wish have enough votes to win. Of course, I am not taking into consideration the past performance of the walking dead voters that use the local cemetery has their home of record.

Guest 08-17-2016 07:38 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273061)
Trump has a commanding lead on old white people who despise change and people not white like them. He also leads with people who fly the confederate flags on their pickups. And has a commanding lead over people who have few teeth left. He also leads with all Village Residents who have their 40 year old kids living back with mom and dad and causing trouble in the Bubble.

How much does the narrow mind affect hat size?

Guest 08-17-2016 07:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273103)
Just because right-wingnut zealots show up to kneel at their demigod, certainly doesn't indicate what the broad middle of this great country are dumb enough to vote for him.

The party will end early in the evening on 8th for Trump.

You can bank on it. :thumbup:


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CNM

There is something telling about a person who is unable to respect any other position than their own.

They also exhibit an inability to communicate without disparaging, discourteous, aggravating, monotonous discourse.

Guest 08-17-2016 07:46 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273168)
Not in your bank, that's for sure. You enjoy calling conservative "right-wing zealots" but you think you are slurring them. It's a compliment, and you don't even realize it. On the other hand, liberals are socialists and that really is a slur, a truth but still a slur. Socialism is not American, therefore when someone suggests that you are a socialist, you are being compared to a soviet commie.

Your excuse for Hillary's poor rally showing is pretty pitiful. If it is an indication of a left side motivated voter turnout, then you have a lot of work cut out for your side. If Trump's large rally turnouts are indicative of voter support, then once again, the left has a lot of work to do if they wish have enough votes to win. Of course, I am not taking into consideration the past performance of the walking dead
voters that use the local cemetery has their home of record.

Will you be betting your house on a trump win? You are very un-American with your statement. Will you be leaving the country when Hillary wins? Somalia is a good place for you to go.

Guest 08-17-2016 07:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273168)
Not in your bank, that's for sure. You enjoy calling conservative "right-wing zealots" but you think you are slurring them. It's a compliment, and you don't even realize it. On the other hand, liberals are socialists and that really is a slur, a truth but still a slur. Socialism is not American, therefore when someone suggests that you are a socialist, you are being compared to a soviet commie.

Your excuse for Hillary's poor rally showing is pretty pitiful. If it is an indication of a left side motivated voter turnout, then you have a lot of work cut out for your side. If Trump's large rally turnouts are indicative of voter support, then once again, the left has a lot of work to do if they wish have enough votes to win. Of course, I am not taking into consideration the past performance of the walking dead voters that use the local cemetery has their home of record.

Can you say, I'm in the minority and irrelevant? You need to practice that statement.

Guest 08-17-2016 09:14 AM

I want to go to a Trump rally if it's convenient especially if Palin is doing the warm-up. It's unpredictable.

Remember the Dean Scream? That hurt him badly. It was embarrassing. But compared to what you might see or hear at a Trump rally, it's nothing.

Why would I want to go to a Clinton rally? I know the whole story and I know she will not be saying or doing anything remarkable or off point. Why bother? I like predictable for the person in charge.

Guest 08-17-2016 09:33 AM

where do you get your info?
 
From a FISHING "Pole"!!!!!!!!!!

Guest 08-17-2016 09:59 AM

Hey Can't NO MOre, why did you make so many comments above and not put your signature on them all? Didn't have time? No one else would back you up so you had to try to make it look like there were more libtards on here?

Guest 08-17-2016 10:03 AM

The Sybille theory has resurrected.

Guest 08-17-2016 10:21 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273263)
The Sybille theory has resurrected.

And she lives in CNM, Can't No More.

Guest 08-17-2016 10:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273175)
There is something telling about a person who is unable to respect any other position than their own.

They also exhibit an inability to communicate without disparaging, discourteous, aggravating, monotonous discourse.

Did you just log on for the first time? Enlighten yourself by scanning only the Guest posts.

Guest 08-17-2016 11:32 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273180)
Will you be betting your house on a trump win? You are very un-American with your statement. Will you be leaving the country when Hillary wins? Somalia is a good place for you to go.

Why do you ALWAYS choose Somalia? You know...it's 99% black. Is THAT the black paradise I've been asking for? Because it's the WORST possible place you could be. Why not choose Norway or Sweden? Somewhere full of white people. You just want to torture us.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273183)
Can you say, I'm in the minority and irrelevant? You need to practice that statement.

And you'll SOON say...Sh!t...what have we done?!? We let it all fall apart and now there's nobody left who CAN rebuild it all. Why did we get rid of those smart white people?

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273238)
I want to go to a Trump rally if it's convenient especially if Palin is doing the warm-up. It's unpredictable.

Remember the Dean Scream? That hurt him badly. It was embarrassing. But compared to what you might see or hear at a Trump rally, it's nothing.

Why would I want to go to a Clinton rally? I know the whole story and I know she will not be saying or doing anything remarkable or off point. Why bother? I like predictable for the person in charge.

The MEDIA made a big deal about the scream, they took him out with t.

Guest 08-17-2016 11:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273293)
Did you just log on for the first time? Enlighten yourself by scanning only the Guest posts.

:shrug:

Guest 08-17-2016 12:05 PM

off topic
Is the political forum searchable? I used the regular search and that didn't seem to work.

Guest 08-17-2016 12:37 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1273168]Not in your bank, that's for sure. You enjoy calling conservative "right-wing zealots" but you think you are slurring them. It's a compliment, and you don't even realize it. On the other hand, liberals are socialists and that really is a slur, a truth but still a slur. Socialism is not American, therefore when someone suggests that you are a socialist, you are being compared to a soviet commie.
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not american, oh really, do we have to school you on all the things socialist that are already running, and running well, in the US?

Guest 08-17-2016 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1273355]
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Posted by Guest (Post 1273168)
Not in your bank, that's for sure. You enjoy calling conservative "right-wing zealots" but you think you are slurring them. It's a compliment, and you don't even realize it. On the other hand, liberals are socialists and that really is a slur, a truth but still a slur. Socialism is not American, therefore when someone suggests that you are a socialist, you are being compared to a soviet commie.
[/QUOTE

not american, oh really, do we have to school you on all the things socialist that are already running, and running well, in the US?

I know that at least half of what you would list would not be considered socialist programs. But, if you feel froggy go for it. When I get back around to catching up on this post, I might even give it a glance. Sorry, but socialism is NOT American no matter whether or not you have it here. And just because we have gov run programs, does not mean that those programs are American standard. You can wear Italian made shoes, but that does not make them American just because you wear them in the U.S.A. You can drive a Honda but that does not make it American.
So, make up your list if you wish. It I get a chance, I might comment on it.

Guest 08-17-2016 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1273380]
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Posted by Guest (Post 1273355)

I know that at least half of what you would list would not be considered socialist programs. But, if you feel froggy go for it. When I get back around to catching up on this post, I might even give it a glance. Sorry, but socialism is NOT American no matter whether or not you have it here. And just because we have gov run programs, does not mean that those programs are American standard. You can wear Italian made shoes, but that does not make them American just because you wear them in the U.S.A. You can drive a Honda but that does not make it American.
So, make up your list if you wish. It I get a chance, I might comment on it.

By definition, the military

Guest 08-17-2016 04:03 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1273470]
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Posted by Guest (Post 1273380)
By definition, the military

I have some bad news for you, the military and the entire U.S government is funded by the private sector which is antithetical to socialism. The government has no money and produces nothing but debt.

Socialism is a system of economy. To call the military a true economy is ridiculous.

Voluntary enlistment and you can leave it behind you when you wish. Unlike socialism/communism in various countries of the world where you are born a slave and you will die a slave unless you are lucky enough to find a way out.

In a socialist collective each person is the same. In their utopia there is no hierarchy. Is there any better example of an upwardly mobile career ladder than the US military? Exceptionalism is the norm in the US military. In socialism, as Obama envisions it of course, no one should be more remarkable than another.

Guest 08-17-2016 04:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273175)
There is something telling about a person who is unable to respect any other position than their own.

They also exhibit an inability to communicate without disparaging, discourteous, aggravating, monotonous discourse.

Oh the irony! :1rotfl:

Given that the majority around here are on the right and are constantly name-calling, denigrating and displaying sexism/misogyny/sexism/racism/xenophobia/etc....your post is beyond being hypocritical. :oops:

Not that you had any to begin with, but that ignorant and myopic post just completely destroyed any hope you might have harbored that you have any credibility.

In spite of the supposed 600+ 'friends' you claim. ;)

Now run along....before you start crying. :cryin2:





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CNM

Guest 08-17-2016 04:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273261)
Hey Can't NO MOre, why did you make so many comments above and not put your signature on them all? Didn't have time? No one else would back you up so you had to try to make it look like there were more libtards on here?

Every comment I make...I put my 'sig.' ;)

I recall forgetting once, but I went back, quoted it...THEN put my sig.

It must really suck for you to realize that there are a lot more decent, intelligent and tolerant folks here....than you thought. :ho:

Sorry, but you're just going to have to live with it. :D



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CNM

Guest 08-17-2016 05:03 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1273503]
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Posted by Guest (Post 1273470)

I have some bad news for you, the military and the entire U.S government is funded by the private sector which is antithetical to socialism. The government has no money and produces nothing but debt.

Socialism is a system of economy. To call the military a true economy is ridiculous.

Voluntary enlistment and you can leave it behind you when you wish. Unlike socialism/communism in various countries of the world where you are born a slave and you will die a slave unless you are lucky enough to find a way out.

In a socialist collective each person is the same. In their utopia there is no hierarchy. Is there any better example of an upwardly mobile career ladder than the US military? Exceptionalism is the norm in the US military. In socialism, as Obama envisions it of course, no one should be more remarkable than another.

Would you agree that the military is government run? Everyone gets government provided housing, health care, and even government clothing.

Guest 08-17-2016 05:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273293)
Did you just log on for the first time? Enlighten yourself by scanning only the Guest posts.

Nahhh, she's not new here and knows exactly what she's doing. :)

Choosing only my posts and ignoring the resident racists, bigots, misogynists and sexists....is the big giveaway. ;)

Completely unsuccessful in trying to bully me upstairs...she now tries it anonymously down here.

It must really suck to be lonely, fat, ugly and not nearly as smart as one thinks they are. :D

The PM's should start flying any minute now. :1rotfl:

Poor thang. :cryin2:




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CNM

Guest 08-17-2016 05:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273526)
Every comment I make...I put my 'sig.' ;)

I recall forgetting once, but I went back, quoted it...THEN put my sig.

It must really suck for you to realize that there are a lot more decent, intelligent and tolerant folks here....than you thought. :ho:

Sorry, but you're just going to have to live with it. :D



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CNM

I'm pretty sure it's you Sybille sounding like other people. I know in the last few years a lot of people have moved down here from the northeast but I think they had to sign a liberal opinion waiver.

Guest 08-17-2016 05:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273503)
Would you agree that the military is government run? Everyone gets government provided housing, health care, and even government clothing.

The military has become the enabler for rich contractors who continue to come up with weapons we don't need at prices we can't afford.

Guest 08-17-2016 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1273380]
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Posted by Guest (Post 1273355)

I know that at least half of what you would list would not be considered socialist programs. But, if you feel froggy go for it. When I get back around to catching up on this post, I might even give it a glance. Sorry, but socialism is NOT American no matter whether or not you have it here. And just because we have gov run programs, does not mean that those programs are American standard. You can wear Italian made shoes, but that does not make them American just because you wear them in the U.S.A. You can drive a Honda but that does not make it American.
So, make up your list if you wish. It I get a chance, I might comment on it.

Nah, you have already convinced yourself that there is nothing good about socialism and that we are not a socialist country. why waste my time with you.

Guest 08-17-2016 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1273536]
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Posted by Guest (Post 1273380)

Nah, you have already convinced yourself that there is nothing good about socialism and that we are not a socialist country. why waste my time with you.

I bet you feel that is a safe answer. Have a great evening.

Guest 08-17-2016 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=Guest;1273528]
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Posted by Guest (Post 1273503)
Would you agree that the military is government run? Everyone gets government provided housing, health care, and even government clothing.

Apparently, you didn't read the whole comment. Go back and take a remedial civics class, because you seem to be a bit foggy on your ideology and economic systems. Don't get upset though, because I am not an expert either.

I think that you will agree that it is because of our "socialist" themed programs that we have an ever increasing deficit. One of these days, someone in D.C. is going to suddenly wake up and realize that everyone cannot have an unearned middle class standard of living, by means of gov subsidy. Even with the mandatory payroll taxes going toward Social Security and Medicare the socialized programs can't sustain themselves. Proof of failed policies, regardless of the fault of one party or the other. Socialism is a shortcut to bankruptcy.


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