Tell a lie, see if it sticks
 

If every one on this website would fact check, you would be amazing how many lies are spread. Political party is really insignificant now, vote for the man, and thank pray!

If you would fact check, you'd know that you ARE voting for "the party" and NOT "the man". Because the electors, the electoral college is the ONLY vote that counts. You elect an elector, that's ALL your vote does. That elector is PLEDGED to his party and normally they vote for whom you voted for...or thought you were voting for. BUT...the electors are under NO...I repeat...NO binding requirement to vote along party lines.

That's the "beauty" of the founders system...ALL the meaningful "elections" are fixed. The "house", the "system", the "ruling class" always wins. WHY is the SCOTUS "elected" by the Senate? It's another branch, we should be voting for them too. But the founders knew that "we" couldn't be trusted and the "ultimate arbitrators" must be controlled.

It's all fixed and we can't change it. And they're really screwing us over with immigration. The country will be a minority majority within 30 years. It'll be Mexico II.

I think we are all frustrated
 

RE: party
I am a centrist. The democratic party has taken a sharp turn to the LEFT and the republican party has taken a sharp turn to the right. NEITHER is a good fit for me.

I believe it is and was my duty to EARN MY OWN WAY and to save for my FAMILY-REPUBLICAN.
I. so that I could pay for it, went to a community college and then completed my four year degree. On graduation I, in addition to spending years of my savings doing everything from mowing lawns, to yes washing dishes, I graduated owing 13,000-IN TODAYS DOLLARS THAT IS 78,000. I worked 6-7 days a week AND I PAID IT OFF.
I never thought someone else should pay MY BILLS-UNDEMOCRATIC PARTY.
I believe it is my duty to protect myself AND MY FAMILY-thus I believe in the right to bear arms-REPUBLICAN.

I believe in the FIRST AMENDMENT as well as the SECOND.
For the REPUBLICANS who seem to choose to simply ignore the FIRST AMENDMENT-it outlaws the establishment of a state religion-UN-REPUBLICAN-DEMOCRATIC PARTY
I believe in PRO CHOICE-It is THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE-not forced abortion. REREAD FIRST AMENDMENT-DEMOCRATIC PARTY VIEW.
Like our inability to come to peace on racial issues, we have not been able to come to peace on birth control.
Sadly, birth control is controlled by the CRISTIAN CHURCH.
READ AGAIN THE FIRST AMENDMENT. While we have THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE, medicare, medicade-WILL NOT PAY FOR AN ABORTION. How can you people not see the irony?? This is not a NEW PROBLEM-In WWII our government issued condoms to the troops. They were in deference to the CHURCH marked NOT FOR BIRTH CONTROL but to prevent venereal disease.

FAIR TAX? Throughout history the view has always been the same. WE should get and SOMEONE else should pay.
THE VOTERS ON BOTH SIDES ARE TRULY STUPID OR PERHAPS NAIVE IS THE POLITE TERM-THEY WANT TO BELIEVE. Obama-WHO PROUDLY I DID NOT VOTE FOR-will leave office with a TEN TRILLION DOLLAR OVERDRAFT ON THE DESK. Obama hitched his wagon to the CANCER OR RACIAL DIVIDE-clearly rather than using his unique position as the first black american president, HE USED HIS POSITION TO FAN THE SPARKS INTO FLAMES. AND, Obama has turned his YOU O MEEEEEEE-GIMMMMMMMEEEEEE VOTERS to the belief that working hard, saving hard AS I HAVE LIVED MY LIFE is somehow EVIL

Fact check and you?????
 

RE: ruling class
READ some HISTORY. First of all should Hillary win this presidential election in will be the first time in 128 years that one party won the presidency for a second term.

For Obama's first two years, the democrats controlled not only the president but BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS.
Our government is designed to be confrontational and BALANCED. Thus, we have never had the rise of a dictator
such as HITLER, MUSSOLINI, OR HIROHITO. According to ME, the two closest to dictatorship was FDR and OBAMA.
Several of the DICTATES of FDR were found to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL by the SUPREME COURT. OBAMA a LAW PROFESSOR, was skilled enough to GO AROUND OUR AS DESIGNED SYSTEM. To my dismay, the American voters did elect him for a second term. BUT, clearly they gave control of congress to the Republicans.

This country has been led sharply to the LEFT. The normal reaction is a sharp turn to the RIGHT.

I had blamed where we are on OBAMA. It has become sadly clear to me that Obama, a skilled politician, hitched his wagon to the LIBERAL beliefs of too many people led by our LIBERAL controlled press. The close polls. A large number of VOTERS who will vote for a THIRD ILLEGAL TERM FOR THE CLINTON GANG, has made me come to realize that OBAMA is not the only problem. Should Hillary win, will they still be blaming BUSH? Will they blame the REPUBLICANS or will they SEE the fault is our well meaning SOCIALISTS?

The Democrat party DID turn further left, bordering and moving toward socialist. The Republican party has been moving left toward the center and has stepped over the center line into left field. Now, when they are being pushed back to the right, everyone thinks they are moving to the ultra right. Not true. If you compare our conservatives to the conservatives a few decades ago, you would see that we are not even back to being conservative. Conservatives believe in a balanced budget. These RINOs do not. Conservatives have Judeo-Christian beliefs. These agnostics do not. No, our Republicans are not far right wing, let alone even conservative. The whole country wants the gov to babysit them and make decisions for them. America is the weakest right now than its been in history. Morally, ethically and socially. Immoral temptations rule Americans. How long has it been since vulgar language has popped up on TV and is tolerated? How long has sexuality been shown on prime time TV? When did we suddenly have bikini shavers, condoms and male enhancement shown on TV and cigarettes banned? How long has the gay deviant lifestyle become part of prime time TV? That's liberalism. When no one is offended by these things, the country has lost it's moral values. Why is Hillary's use of an unsecured Internet email server for transmitting classified information tolerated at all? Why did they not incarcerate her immediately instead of nominating her to run our country, like some third world banana republic dictator? This would not be tolerated 40 years ago. America is weak and almost ripe for the picking of some more powerful nation. It may not happen in my lifetime, but it is just a matter of time. Wonder who will be playing the fiddle when our Rome is burning.

No NO No...NOT the whole country...just the women and minorities. White men still want freedom and to be treated fairly and NOT discriminated against with quotas. White men WANT equal treatment and we also want to enjoy the spoils when we excel. We don't want affirmative action and to be denied because of a quota.

We've never been so weak because we've never had so many losers in positions they got via affirmative action and quotas. You have to use the best, white men, if you want to be the best. When you use the losers and put them in via quotas, you don't get the best, you get mediocre.

This isn't rocket science, it's simple causation. Black people increasing in number brings the quality of life down...always. Disagree? Show me.

And what makes the facts the truth? Someone's policial opinion. Probably need to check the policial association of the fact Doctor? Any words over two sylebols can fall on either side of the fence.

Facts are FACTS...as in "what's really happening".

Blacks REALLY live like animals when left to their own devices...everywhere. Show me the black paradise. It's a FACT that wherever they live, conditions deteriorate...quality of life goes down...crime and poverty increases...the place just starts to SUCK. That's a FACT. Disprove it with your black paradise if you don't agree.

I can say the same about "education". As we've tried to mainstream blacks, as we've tried to get them to PASS, all we've done is lowered the standards. There is NO "top black school" that beats all the others.

There's NO BEST BLACK ANYTHING. They're ALWAYS way behind the Asians and whites in EVERYTHING except sports. Because THAT is what they're good at. Running, jumping, and humping. The black legacy. Nothing else of mention except destroying EVERYWHERE they concentrate in large numbers.

Disagree? Show me my error?

YOUR lies are the lies that stick. There is NO equality. Diversity destroys. There are two truths for you.

Hillary is running around in circles, yelling "that does not compute. Danger Will Robinson!"

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Liberals are so easy. They believe any lie told to them. They are also the most likely to be victims. I fact checked that...:icon_wink: After all, which party insists on more and more gov involvement? More rules and laws? Insist on others to contribute more of their paycheck? Need more? Are victims of crime more? Liberals need us. Do we need them? I don't think so.

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I have to ask are you talking about Conservatives like Ron Reagan?
Because you said the conservatives believe in a balanced budget, and IF Reagan was the type of Conservative you are talking about you should know that it took 31 years after WWII to run the national debt up to 998 Billion dollars and Reagan ran it up that much in 5 years.
Balanced budgets?
He cut taxes ran the debt up from 998 Billion to 2.8 Trillion in 8 years. and that is even after he raised taxes 11 times.
He was the first President to have a spending budget of OVER a trillion dollars
Then PAPA Bush took over and he ran the budget up 1.554 Trillion in 4 years to 4.4 Trillion dollars
Clinton came in and being a DEM. you would think the way Republicans talk he would have rune the debt up at least as much as Bush did in 4 years but NO Clinton increased the debt by 1.39 Trillion 158 Billion less then Papa bush did in 4 years.
Just thought I would ask if those are the Conservatives you were talking about

Clinton cheated...he robbed the SS "trust fund" of over a $trillion through creative accounting tricks. You can add that to his debt because it'll need to be paid back too.

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Can you show us where you got your info?
Here is some info from Factcheck
The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton
Clinton’s large budget surpluses also owe much to the Social Security tax on payrolls. Social Security taxes now bring in more than the cost of current benefits, and the "Social Security surplus" makes the total deficit or surplus figures look better than they would if Social Security wasn’t counted. But even if we remove Social Security from the equation, there was a surplus of $1.9 billion in fiscal 1999 and $86.4 billion in fiscal 2000. So any way you count it, the federal budget was balanced and the deficit was erased, if only for a while.
Like it says if you took SS out ithere still would have been a surplus

Huh? Clinton ADDED to the deficit EVERY year. There hasn't been a year the total government debt DECREASED in a long long time.

Don't believe the propaganda.

He stole from SS and he STILL had a deficit. Not a big one (because he stole from SS) but it was still a deficit.

Let's see the documentation on that. Just like trump, throw it against the wall and see if it will stick.

Are you replying to any post in particular, or just blathering to the air?
Did anyone suggest or include Reagan in any of the above posts?

The national debt has not been reduced since Eisenhower, period. Clinton had a budget surplus ONLY because his administration wrote a budget for Bush's first year. Anyone can write a budget and make it look good UNTIL you have to pay the bills. There was no surplus other than on paper. I can promise not to spend money on groceries next year and thus have a surplus. But, if I then decide next year to go out every night to eat, I invalidate that budget. If Clinton EVER had a surplus, do you not think that the national debt would have been paid down, even a little? Sorry, but it has not been paid down since Eisenhower.