America, the food stamp nation
 

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Any comments? You know how long the line would be for 44 million people waiting in a bread line? Over 8,000 miles.

Things are going GREAT!

Another problem, the homeless. Cities are being inundated.

"On any given night, there are approximately 643,067 people experiencing homelessness in America"

Google

Those numbers are worse than the great depression.

One of Obama's shing accomplishments.

His real legacy.

Said another way....the cost of obtaining and maintaining votes!!!

You certainly got that right! :bigbow:

Another reason to get rid of the socialist party. Democrat liberals even make socialists cry.

A reality check for you right-wingnuts. :D


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/13/bu...yway.html?_r=0

Almost 3/4 of those needing public assistance have a worker as the head of the family...yet not one peep out of you on the right about how your tax money is being spent subsidizing BILLION dollar companies?

Why is that?

Never mind, we know why...it's called 'Flaming Hypocrisy.' :boom:

You're welcome. :ho:



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CNM

You conveniently forgot to mention that the head of family worker is uneducated and unskilled and most likely an illegal!

Liberal left policies have grown the number of people totally dependent on the government.

Obama has the worst food stamp record in history. Whether it was already happening when he took the job or not is not pertinent. He asked for and campaigned for the job. He made promises that he did not or was unable to keep. Obama let the nation down, not someone else. He dropped the ball. He had two whole years to do anything he wished and he concentrated on Obamacare which is going to put us into another recession next year and has not helped millions that he promised. Liberals can make up all the excuses for him they wish and call us racists because we criticize the policies. These are feeble excuses made for an inadequate leader, and for their poor choice. Sorry, but no matter what job you take, if you make promises that you can do the job and can't, you get fired. In this case, he failed that they reelected him. That is considered very poor management. Even though Hillary can't get elected now, for imagination purposes, lets say she did get elected. Would anyone listen to her use the excuse that Obama gave her this problem, so we shouldn't blame her? That it is Obama's fault?

Our economy is getting ready to tank again. This administration has insisted that everything is OK. This administration has NEVER had a month of average 3% GDP growth. That is the worst record of any president in history. That is a bad economy. If you don't believe me when I say we are not doing well, go to any of the gov websites and get the real information. Go to the U.S. National Debt Clock site and look at all the information they give you on unemployment, national debt, food stamp recipients, welfare, etc. There is a button that allows you to compare the information with past years.

Oh really?

So, I guess you're in favor of putting those management people who hired, or allowed the hiring, of the undocumented workers.....in jail for breaking the law?

Nahhh...I didn't think so. :oops:

Flaming hypocrite. :boom:




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CNM

I am, because that would stop a lot of illegal invaders from crossing the border unlawfully. If they are breaking the law, they should pay the penalty.

I wouldn't feel sorry for a guy robbing a bank to feed his kids, so I am not going to feel sorry for people that are too impatient to stand in line like other good immigrants. And I am not going to feel sorry for a guy that wishes to save money by hiring illegals. You liberals say you are pro-union and then you want to undercut them with illegals. You are hypocrites.

Well said! :agree:

Your post indicates you simply do not comprehend
 

When, you talk about subsidies to billion dollar companies you are talking about CORPORATIONS.

First of all a corporation is a paper document NOT A HUMAN BEING.
The money that a corporation earns is distributed to the owners-STOCKHOLDERS-and they pay tax on that money.
GE a major blue chip company paid zero or close to zero tax. How could that be-you ask. Due to GOVERNMENT tax policies all kinds of tax breaks were given to companies involved in our current HYSTERIA for green energy. GE is one of the largest manufacturers of wind turbines, the government tax breaks reduces the tax that GE pays.
MORE FACTS FOR YOU-I own stock in GE. I bought it with INCOME on which I had already paid INCOME TAX ON. I bought it because it has a good DIVIDEND. I am currently paying my living expenses with stock dividends. Even that money-dividends on stocks purchased with already taxed money-DOES NOT COME TO ME TAX FREE.

I will guess from your post that you have a pension of some kind.

Throughout history no one wants to pay tax, Yet, everyone wants to get the benefits paid for with tax collected. REALIZE-IF YOU DO AS i HAVE GUESSED HAVE A PENSION, A 401K, A 403B-UNLIKE ME WHAT YOU ARE RECEIVING IS ON UN-TAXED MONEY.

We both chose a path-HOW DARE YOU THINK MY PATH AND NOT YOURS SHOULD BE TAXED.

Re: Food stamps being called snap
 

Food stamps is begging others to, or forcing others to PAY YOUR BILLS.

Today we have renamed it SNAP to make it ACCEPTABLE.

My anger-I've worked all my life. Being self employed I paid not the 7% that most pay to social security but 13%.

I just filed for medicare and due to my previous income I PAY TWICE THE MINIMUM AND I AM NOT COVERED AGAINST INCREASES.

I'VE PAID MY FAIR SHARE-I'VE PAID FAR MORE THAN MY FAIR SHARE.

Ya just cannot put a price on buying votes.....need any more proof?

Excellent, we're on the same page then. :thumbup:

Now, please explain why your party is loathe to even mention putting those people who hire illegal's in jail?

Let's start with the developer here...shall we? ;)

Or did you really think all those people working here, are actually legal American citizens...that just can't speak English? :1rotfl:

So go ahead and state it, that you are FOR putting the Morse family in jail...for hiring undocumented workers. :coolsmiley:

I'll wait. :popcorn:





Are you sober? :oops:

You really think it is just those on the left...that want to continue to use low-paid workers?

Are you even slightly cognizant of the conservative business community...that love having undocumented workers to increase their profit margin?

More importantly, are you ready to pay a higher price for everything from farm products, to golf....to your amenity fees?

I am. :ho:




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CNM

Open borders, we can all see how well it's working!
The answer is simple, secure our borders and
enforce all of our current immigration laws!
Who do you think is paying for SNAP and many other
welfare costs!

Dems want the Hispanic vote, so they do nothing
to stem the flow of illegals.
Repub business interests want cheap labor so
they also do nothing.
Basically, that's why Trump appeals to millions of
Americans fed up with the lack of action!

Your post is so rambling, incoherent and an obvious attempt at obfuscation...I'll have to break it up to save you. :D


And this has what to do with anything?

Or maybe you think that upper management of these corporations don't get a big piece of their enumeration from stock options...that are tied directly to profits?

Hint, these folks ARE HUMAN BEINGS. :ohdear:



That is correct.

So now you're saying that you prefer to have those American taxpayers that DON'T own these stocks...to subsidize YOUR investment income?

How selfish are you?


Wrong again.

The main reason they didn't pay any taxes a few years ago, was because they were shielding it in other countries.

Here...want proof? ;)

General Electric Avoids Taxes By Keeping $108 Billion Overseas | Huffington Post

But hey, you don't give a $hit if they hide it in other countries as long as your dividend income is maintained a high level...right?

And for those who don't know, dividend income from stocks are either tax-free...or taxed at a much lower rate than personal income.

So once again, you're simply being selfish...and UN-American. :thumbup:




So I was dead on, when I said you want American taxpayers that don't own stock to subsidize YOUR dividends?

And although GE doesn't employee that many undocumented workers compared to corp's such as MickeyD's, Walmart, Etc...your same logic applies.

You think it's just fine that hard working American citizens, who don't own these stocks, should share in subsidizing them...so you can maximize YOUR dividends/stock appreciation?

Not that I'm surprised, as this type of flaming hypocrisy...is a base platform of Republicans/conservatives.




Here's where you are so goofy, that you don't even understand what I've been saying. :oops:

It is perfectly acceptable to me to have my investment income reduced...and have these companies pay a living wage to their workers.

I simply see it as my patriotic duty, to sacrifice a little for a higher good...and pay a living wage to American citizens.

Why are you so selfish? :popcorn:

Never mind, that was a rhetorical question, as after all... you're a Republican/conservative and that flaming hypocrisy comes naturally.

"I got mine, screw you" ...right?





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CNM

I'll bet you've never even heard of this analysis...have you?

After all, those who depend on 'Faux News' for their info... have been repeatedly shown as being the LEAST informed of the FACTS. :D

Illegal immigrants benefit the U.S. economy | TheHill

OUCH...that's gonna leave a large bruise. :1rotfl:



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CNM

YES. There has already been a study of how much more the average household would have to spend per year to compensate for the higher price of not having Illegals in the work force. It's outdated now, but it was not even noticeable any more than a bit of inflation.
On the other hand, how many billion is wasted because of all the illegals in our country? I forgot what it comes to but I do remember thinking that just one year's worth of savings could pay to build Trump's wall.
Yes, prosecute anyone knowingly hiring an illegal. If enough are jailed, we won't have an illegal alien invasion problem anymore.

Sorry, but you will excuse me if I say you're lying...without providing some type of proof?

I know, I know...I should just take your word for it. :oops:

Go read post #20, provide commiserate proof/links to prove your case...then come back and post again. :ho:

Quit being so damned lazy. :D



Quit being so lazy...and prove it. :popcorn:



On that we agree. :thumbup:

Starting with the Morse family...right? :D





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CNM

Why doesn't Mexico take care of its own citizens?
Does Mexico have a SNAP program?

Suit yourself. It seems that you are calling someone else lazy when it is you that doubts the veracity of the comment. It's reminiscent of a child saying "nuh uhh!" or even a teen saying "not true." In a discussion, if you wish to dispute someone's statement, it works a lot better if you have evidence to DISPROVE them. But, you are very good at snide remarks, not so good at facts.

Your lying is pathetic. :oops:

I provide legitimate sourced links backing my statements...you and others do not. :ohdear:

Enough said. :ho:


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CNM

Sure you do. "Legitimate sourced links" ha, ha. :ohdear:

"Enough said" for you is NEVER enough said for you. You wouldn't know how to shut your mouth for a minute to save your self. I was going to say save your marriage, but that would have been in poor taste and personal. :ho:

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Not a C-tard

And once again, out of desperation...you're lying. :1rotfl:

Let me guess, you don't think the CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE, USDA or the United States Department of Labor....are 'legitimate sources?' :oops:

Particularly funny, since these conclusions were drawn under The Simpleton's administration. :ohdear:

You're welcome. :ho:



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CNM

The post was correct, you have to have the last word. Bet your husband, past or present is glad you are on here instead of with him.

Good use of a "reliable source".

Using contaminated food to serve in a restaurant.

Statement from owner....all our food is federally innspected by USDA.......

and now for the use and abuse of "reliable sources"......the food failed inspection.....which would obviously be witheld from the public ( restaurant owner...H. Clinton).

From Wikipedia:
The Feb 2011 report "The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on US Taxpayers" from the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a non-profit group that advocates limiting both legal and illegal immigration, "estimates the annual costs of illegal immigration at the federal, state and local level to be about $113 billion; nearly $29 billion at the federal level and $84 billion at the state and local level. The study also estimates tax collections from illegal alien workers, both those in the above-ground economy and those in the underground economy. Those receipts [apx $13 billion] do not come close to the level of expenditures..."[58]

The Center for Immigration Studies, reported in 2004: "Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household."[59]

Editorialist Robert Samuelson points out that poor immigrants strain public services such as local schools and health care. He points out that "from 2000 to 2006, 41 percent of the increase in people without health insurance occurred among Hispanics", although he makes clear that these facts are true of legal as well as illegal immigrants.[60]


Trump's wall is estimated to cost us about $10-15 billion, but some say it would cost up to $25 billion. It would be paid for within one year from the savings of stopping illegal immigration.

It's all moot if the >50 million anchor babies get to stay.

Please include a link when you quote from a source, so that everyone can read it in its entirety...for themselves.

That way everyone knows if someone is actually quoting correctly. :ho:

Like this:

Economic impact of illegal immigrants in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Looking on Wiki, I did not find the exact same info you quoted, so how about you showing us where you got it from?



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CNM

ON the other hand, why don't you kiss my ...........

The study also estimates tax collections from illegal alien workers, both those in the above-ground economy and those in the underground economy. Those receipts [apx $13 billion] do not come close to the level of expenditures..."[58]

The Center for Immigration Studies, reported in 2004: "Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household."[59]

Can't you read.............DEFICIT AFTER taking any beneficial taxes they may pay. They are leaches on the AMERICAN tax payer.

You are much too kind to CNM!

:1rotfl:

You got busted for lying and trying to make up your own facts...gotta love it! :D

Thanks. :thumbup:




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CNM

Thank God for you CNM . It must be a burden for you to have to carry out the mission on this earth each and every day that your father sent you here to carry out for him .

:agree: CNM wants so badly to be the all knowing chosen one!

The Democratic Party is as close to socialist as it can get.