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graciegirl 09-19-2016 10:58 AM

They caught the bombing S.O.B. Alive!
 
I am sure everyone is breathing a sigh of relief now that he is in custody and I imagine there will be more arrests. If you see something say something worked today and all Law Enforcement agencies worked like clockwork together.

Congratulations to all.

village dreamer 09-19-2016 11:08 AM

to bad he is alive. he will be out in a few hours, his lawyers will say he did not kill anyone.

jclrxman 09-19-2016 11:34 AM

He has rights, But he is a terrorist. Do the type of justice they would use in the mid east. He lost all his rights.

ColdNoMore 09-19-2016 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jclrxman (Post 1291812)
He has rights, But he is a terrorist. Do the type of justice they would use in the mid east.

He lost all his rights.

Not in the great country I live in. :ohdear:

While I hope they have caught the person responsible, the authorities can prove it and he never sees the light of day for the rest of his life (along with any accomplices)...he still has 'rights.'

Any less and we're no better than those countries ruled by dictators/despots...that decent American citizens view as so abominable. :shrug:

graciegirl 09-19-2016 12:04 PM

I remember the towers and I am feeling more like gnashing my teeth than those who are thinking fairness.

At this point I am on the side of profiling and locking all doors to potential trouble like this.

But that is because I am not a young idealist anymore.

I was once.

.

ColdNoMore 09-19-2016 12:55 PM

I believe this bears repeating, considering some folks may want to forget or ignore...that we have a Constitution and the first ten amendments to it. :ohdear:


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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1291829)

Any less and we're no better than those countries ruled by dictators/despots...that decent American citizens view as so abominable. :shrug:


TNLAKEPANDA 09-19-2016 03:49 PM

If I were the Gov of NY or NJ I would contact the local Mob Bosses and give them a free hand to clean things up in the area. No questions asked.

kcrazorbackfan 09-19-2016 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 1291792)
to bad he is alive. he will be out in a few hours, his lawyers will say he did not kill anyone.

$5,000,000 bail; don't think he'll be out in a couple of hours (unless he was here in The Villages; the "slap on the wrist" probation happy judges probably would let him out on his own recognizance).

graciegirl 09-19-2016 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1292098)

Dang. You are right and I must apologize for thinking your spelling was in error, but I still am far more adamant against the nasty terrorists than you seem to be. I really do want all people entering this country as refugees to be carefully, CAREFULLY vetted because folks who hate us can and do slip in.

kcrazorbackfan 09-19-2016 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1291837)
I remember the towers and I am feeling more like gnashing my teeth than those who are thinking fairness.

At this point I am on the side of profiling and locking all doors to potential trouble like this.

But that is because I am not a young idealist anymore.

I was once. .

What I've been saying for a loooooooooong time; I interact with people, play golf with them, go to driveway parties with them, but do I trust anyone besides my family? Nope. Do a search for the song "Smiling Faces" by The Undecided Truth and you'll understand why.

Even though a lot of people think we live in Mayberry, and I don't believe you think that, they need to read the online news and rediscover that there are violent people that live amongst us and my wife and I refuse to be victims.

ColdNoMore 09-19-2016 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1292118)
Dang. You are right and I must apologize for thinking your spelling was in error,

,,/,,

Please read my signature for further guidance. :D

Thank you. :ho:



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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1292118)
but I still am far more adamant against the nasty terrorists than you seem to be. I really do want all people entering this country as refugees to be carefully, CAREFULLY vetted because folks who hate us can and do slip in.

I loathe ALL terrorists and mass murderers, such as Timothy McVeigh, Robert Hansen, Adam Lanza, etc., etc.

Guess what those three have in common?

I just don't choose to only loathe the ones from a particular religion.

But, apparently I am much more concerned about our Constitution and Bill of Rights than some folks...when dealing with them.

graciegirl 09-19-2016 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1292142)
,,/,,

Please read my signature for further guidance. :D

Thank you. :ho:




I loathe ALL terrorists and mass murderers, such as Timothy McVeigh, Robert Hansen, Adam Lanza, etc., etc.

Guess what those three have in common?

I just don't choose to only loathe the ones from a particular religion.

But, apparently I am much more concerned about our Constitution and Bill of Rights than some folks...when dealing with them.


I am more concerned with Muslim extremists because there are more occasions to be concerned about them.

And we are at war with them.

ColdNoMore 09-19-2016 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1292182)
I am more concerned with Muslim extremists because there are more occasions to be concerned about them.

And we are at war with them.

The 'extremists' and 'hate groups' yes, we should all be concerned with those...both domestic and abroad.

Hate & Extremism | Southern Poverty Law Center

karostay 09-20-2016 07:28 AM

Should have used a few more bullets..Would have saved taxpayers millions

Bay Kid 09-20-2016 07:30 AM

They live among us.... More to come.

outlaw 09-20-2016 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1291873)
I believe this bears repeating, considering some folks may want to forget or ignore...that we have a Constitution and the first ten amendments to it. :ohdear:

We could do a lot less and still be better than those countries to which you refer.

outlaw 09-20-2016 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1292202)
The 'extremists' and 'hate groups' yes, we should all be concerned with those...both domestic and abroad.

Hate & Extremism | Southern Poverty Law Center

SPLC!? Really? What next; white privilege is to blame?

outlaw 09-20-2016 08:01 AM

I'm not sure why this guy isn't guilty of treason, since he attacked the US in support of our enemy. Maybe because we haven't officially declared war? Anyway, the death penalty seems appropriate as it is clear he is "irredeemable".

Chi-Town 09-20-2016 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1292310)
SPLC!? Really? What next; white privilege is to blame?

Uh-oh. Moderator alert.

graciegirl 09-20-2016 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1292331)
Uh-oh. Moderator alert.

Just when it was getting good. With all the high flying human rights rhetoric from all kinds of well meaning people, who among us didn't think of Islamic Terrorism when we read a bomb went off in Manhattan?

I thought so.

outlaw 09-20-2016 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1292331)
Uh-oh. Moderator alert.

Thanks! tattletale.

ColdNoMore 09-20-2016 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1292310)
SPLC!? Really? What next; white privilege is to blame?

The SPLC monitors hate groups and other extremists throughout the United States and exposes their activities to the public, the media and law enforcement.

I do understand however, that doing so...is not everyone's cup of tea. :shrug:

graciegirl 09-20-2016 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1292339)
The SPLC monitors hate groups and other extremists throughout the United States and exposes their activities to the public, the media and law enforcement.

I do understand however, that doing so...is not everyone's cup of tea. :shrug:

Who did you first think of when you heard about the bombing in Manhattan? Did you think it was an ultra conservative Baptist group?

Me either.

ColdNoMore 09-20-2016 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1292343)
Who did you first think of when you heard about the bombing in Manhattan? Did you think it was an ultra conservative Baptist group?

I don't jump to conclusions...I wait for facts to emerge.

Just as when 19 poor, innocent children were killed...in Oklahoma City. :(

leftyf 09-20-2016 08:34 AM

And this morning I heard the news say he hates the USA.

graciegirl 09-20-2016 01:59 PM

picture of skittles - Bing images

Allegiance 09-20-2016 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1292531)

I have to start using bing. Google is un-American.

ajbrown 09-20-2016 03:05 PM

You shoot at police, two officers hit, no need for a trial. The only reason to keep this person alive is to see if he has intel of any value.

My opinion is harsh, yes, illegal, yes, but just how I feel... I will ask for forgiveness Sunday.

Sandtrap328 09-20-2016 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1291837)
I remember the towers and I am feeling more like gnashing my teeth than those who are thinking fairness.

At this point I am on the side of profiling and locking all doors to potential trouble like this.

.

I believe the culprit is a US citizen and therefore has all the same Constitutional rights as you or me. He came to the US at age 9.

However, when someone of Afghani or Pakistani origin goes to one of those troublesome countries for an extended time, they should be on a watch list for some time period after returning to the US. That would seem to make sense.

So, I guess that is a form of profiling and I am for it.

Carla B 09-20-2016 04:43 PM

On Sunday I visited the Murrah Memorial and Museum in Okla City. It is a very emotional experience that is beautifully presented. The block-long street in front of the building, where McVeigh parked the Ryder truck, has been removed and in its place is a reflecting pool. On a berm along side the pool sit 168 empty stone chairs of the victims placed in order by the floor on which they died. Most of the children perished on the 2nd floor.

It's a shame how much our lives have negatively changed since these terror attacks started, and if we can't figure out how to find the radicals before they act, memorials in many cities across the USA will have to be erected.

graciegirl 09-20-2016 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 1292604)
On Sunday I visited the Murrah Memorial and Museum in Okla City. It is a very emotional experience that is beautifully presented. The block-long street in front of the building, where McVeigh parked the Ryder truck, has been removed and in its place is a reflecting pool. On a berm along side the pool sit 168 empty stone chairs of the victims placed in order by the floor on which they died. Most of the children perished on the 2nd floor.

It's a shame how much our lives have negatively changed since these terror attacks started, and if we can't figure out how to find the radicals before they act, memorials in many cities across the USA will have to be erected.

Like in Boston when the two Brothers planted bombs that blew limbs off of 87 people and killed the little grandson of a fellow Villager. His sister lost her leg.

picture of little boy who died in the boston marathon - Bing

San Bernardino. Boston. Orlando. Chattanooga, beheading in Moore, OK. I ask again. When you heard there was a bombing in Manhattan, did you think it was caused by a group of nuns?

Me either.

Here's the list of terror attacks.

Terrorism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Shimpy 09-20-2016 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1292343)
Who did you first think of when you heard about the bombing in Manhattan? Did you think it was an ultra conservative Baptist group?
Me either.

You hit the nail on the head GG.

Shimpy 09-20-2016 05:57 PM

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billethkid 09-20-2016 06:07 PM

I believe in the constitution.

I also believe we are at war with terrorists.

Regarding the bomber, there is sufficient evidence to consider him an enemy combatant and US citizen or not, he is not entitled to the protection of the constitution.

So far they have not read him his rights, which a US citizen is entitled to have. As an enemy combatant, the rights are not to be read.

He is an enemy combatant who so far being uncooperative and may well have information leading to more threats to folks like us, folks like our family members, folks like our friends......no lawyering up....he is the enemy!!
:spoken:

ColdNoMore 09-20-2016 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1292727)
I think it's a left wing organization that unfairly labels conservative and traditional religious groups as hate groups and extremists.

While totally untrue, you are still of course... entitled to your opinion. :shrug:


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