Are Elections Rigged?
 

History records that in 1876 that Rutherford Hayes/ aka Rutherfraud Hays stole the election from Samuel Tilden. JFK was reported to have stolen the election from Richard Nixon thanks to the mob. And in the 2000 election Al Gore claimed blacks were discouraged from voting and the ballots unfair causing Hillary Clinton to tell a crowd that Bush had been selected rather than elected. Today's news is tomorrow's history and of late reports of voter fraud have been frequent the latest scandal coming out of Indiana. Further:

The debate commission prohibits anyone other than candidates from the two main parties from participating in the debates, which denies them equal access to the electorate.

Recall as Trump won the primary, instructions were sent out by the GOP establishment that Republicans in elected office must run away from Trump.

Remember that the Department of (In)Justice (DOJ) and the Free Billary from (In)Justice (FBI) gave Clinton a pass on numerous flagrant and blatant criminal acts regarding mishandling classified information and pay-to-play schemes, which maintained her viability as a candidate.

And while Obama’s Department of Homeland Security said last month it may classify the election system as “critical infrastructure” because of the danger that hackers may tamper with (i.e. rig) the elections. The DHS was also a part of the same regime that cleared the table in order to keep Clinton’s election prospects alive.

WikiLeaks exposed that Clinton and DNC operatives have been working with a complicit propaganda media to misreport on Clinton’s health, the disruption of Trump rallies and the Benghazi/email scandal. WikiLeaks also has exposed that the DNC and Clinton campaign conspired to steal the election from Bernie Sanders.

Undercover video shot by Project Veritas shows that the Clinton campaign and DNC funded criminals for the expressed purpose of disrupting Trump rallies and admitted they have been rigging elections “for 50 years” and were intentionally registering illegals to vote. And the criminal heading up the operation was a frequent visitor to Obama in the White House. Meet Bob Creamer, a convicted felon who was paid to rig elections for the Democrat Party. He also visited the White House over 300 times, including repeated meetings with President Obama.

And are you aware that a company connected to George Soros contributed millions of dollars to Clinton, Obama, Black Lives Matter and progressive organizations backing Clinton and Obama and their policies, provide electronic voting machines to 16 states?

Indeed like our monetary system, elections are confidence games. When people lose confidence in the system, the system will collapse. The system only has legitimacy as long as the people believe it has legitimacy You’re darn right it’s rigged. and we haven't even discussed the Electoral College

(Information provided by an article appearing in Personal Liberty Bob Livingston 10/21/16)

Personal Best Regards:

I believe that to some extent, the election process is corrupt. Not necessarily rigged, but corrupt. There is plenty of evidence that some voters vote more than once, illegals or foreigners vote and even cases of dead voters. Probably not enough to sway the course of the election, unless it is close. There should not be ANY election corruption. We are a model for other countries and we should have a totally corruption free election. Democrats are the only ones that are worried about a voter ID law. Federal law mandates that ONLY American citizens can vote in our elections. Therefore, it is not asking too much that one provide proof that they are an American Citizen, either when they register or by some means at the polls. The honor system can not be expected to work any better than you could expect the honor system when alcohol is purchased.

Wow...you have ompletely and totally bought in to the Breitbart way, conspiracy theories and all. Shame.

There is a reason that in this huge county only one newspaper endorsed Trump......THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

Are you trying to tell us that the National Enquirer is the ONLY newspaper that is NOT owned by SOROS?

Proof that Trump was right when he spoke at the Al Smith dinner the other night.

Well, please define rigged.

Is rigged the media misrepresenting some facts and hiding other facts?

Is rigged illegal aliens voting?

Is rigged felons, without voting rights voting?

Is dead people voting rigged?

Is rigged not requiring a simple voter ID?

Is rigged a governor abusing his power to mass grant felons voting rights?

Is rigged foreign monies pouring in to the election?

You may agree it's "rigged" or not but all above seem to favor the Democrat.

Interesting!

Can't argue with that. :thumbup:

I forgot to add, when a sitting president devotes nearly all of his time and policy decisions (including mosul) to helping one candidate, is that rigged?

Only crybaby losers constantly talk about something being 'rigged'...when they lose.

Trump's entire career has embraced this philosophy...so who really thinks it will change?

Especially when he loses to a woman. :thumbup:

Rigged does not have to mean the voting itself is somehow involved, although there is evidence there is some.

I think the above post is a good start on the list of realities that do infact influence/support/rig the process.

How can the media for example highlight only negatives of Trump and covertly ignore any and all negatives involving Clinton?

The media just like Washington is controlled by the establishment (both R & D).

And at this point in time in their experience the establishment, the crony, lifetime job holders, politics as ususal way of life/existence, special interest, minority groups freebies is being threatened by an outsider.

So, I will assume you had the same thoughts about Hillary when she complained about the election being rigged for the two years following having her @ss handed to her by Obama?

George Soros has ties to over 30 major news outlets | America's Watchtower

George Soros: Media Mogul | Media Research Center

Top Journalists that Serve on Soros-Funded Boards of Directors or Advisers | Media Research Center

So far most posters share my meaning. Clearly the progressives desire an international community. While it is reasonable to work and get along with your international neighbors it does not mean that we have to lose our identity as a sovereign nation.

Consider that the disdain for religion by radical progressives is because religious people have a conscience and thus thinking for themselves as respects the social justice agenda. If you are bent on total control you can't have individuals thinking for themselves, you need collectives and this is where the liberal media comes in as that "Master Switch"turning on their truth and turning off the real truth

The War of Independence, The War of 1812 were fought to remove authority from Britain and the Civil War to continue to keep this nation united. Now we find progressives and so called Republicans in bed with the likes of George Soros and his ilk. why because they desire to be a part of the aristocracy/aka political ruling class.

So Trump is right;albeit it could be more tactful and insightful in explaining the why and the who.

Look at the regulation and policies enacted over the last 50 years. Most of them unnecessary, unwanted or plain overkill and meant to keep the Hoi Polli in line. Nine unelected attorneys make decision on abortion, same sex marriage, etc and yes even on religion without one idota of thought as to the affect it will have on our society. The EPA Fed, etc act like another branch of government and the IRS, DOJ and FBI have lost all credibility. The system is corrupt to the core. While I would never invoke a physical revolution we do need a populist revolution of word and actions that demonstrate beyond a doubt that we will no longer be ignored and taken for granted.

The best manner to do so is to shrink big government and return the rights of states to states. the power grab continues and our freedoms further restrict.

Personal Best Regards:

Good post!

Curious how you feel about another country, not an ally, hacking our computers and.....

Neither party really raises a fuss.

ONE PARTY embraces this action and uses it daily, even when it is altered.

I was, and stress was.....a Republican and now am a bit ashamed that my party is reveling in and using an illegal act by Russia on a daily basis as if it were simply a every day action.

B.S.!

There is NO/NO evidence that the email has been altered and none of the Democrats have denied that the emails were theirs. Just because the evidence was obtained by questionable means, does not make it less incriminating. Laws and ethics were violated and the embarrassed parties have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

The recording of Trump's private conversation was done without his permission, making it obtained illegally. Apparently, he has not denied the recording was real and I have not heard anyone suggest that it was obtained illegally. Even though it was.

Time for the left to quit crying about their emails being obtained illegally and own up to their lack of ethics and morality as portrayed by their own written evidence. It was easy for them to throw stones at Trump, but they act injured by accusations against them.

A dead body obtained by an illegal search does not make that body any less dead and it is still evidence of a crime committed.

If you are ashamed of the Republican party, I wonder how you feel about the evidence proving that the Democrats in the Hillary campaign are corrupt and closet bigots, racists.

This is deeply troubling. And I assume that the FBI has looked already at many of these e-mails if they are still on the system somewhere where the FBI could have found them.

Hillary Clinton did mess up with her handling of the e-mails. We should move on as that has been thoroughly investigated by pretty much everyone whom the Republicans could get to investigate it.

Trump would be rigging a kangaroo court if he went after Hillary Clinton yet again on these e-mails and would make us even look more foolish.

Why would Putin want Trump as President when hewalks all over Obama and walked all over Clinton when she was Secretary of State?

Joe De Genova said it best " Coney is a dirty cop"

The Democrats are working with Putin to pin it on Trump. This is just as true as them attempting to pin collusion between Trump and Putin. It's called PSYOPS. Putin makes Trump look culpable or complicit in the email hacks, therefore making Trump the villain and Hillary the victim.

:agree:

So, it seems the consensus is that it is fine for a foreign country to hack our emails, make them public...UNLESS those are going to hurt our guy. Got it.

This is Russia hacking emails...has nothing to do with Clinton servers...hacking private emails, making them public and then used by one party to try and win an election.

I am hearing all you people say that is just fine with you..a FOREIGN country.

Then in other posts praise that Veritas group who criminally altered tapes, while being hired and paid for by the Trump foundation.

Amazing logic, but that is what you folks are saying.

The NY times said they would pay to have someone provide them trumps tax returns illegally.

They actually got some and published them.


Is the fbi investigating?


What the wiki did show is that the system is rigged

State department
FBI
Media
All of it!

Typical liberal to take something out of context OR twist what one says to suit their agenda. No one said it was OK for Russia or anyone else to hack our systems. No one, not even fellow Americans hacking is "OK." But, you go ahead on your rant like a small child and maybe even add a "hate" accusation in for effect.

On the other hand, we have a radical left candidate that criminally violated national security and has the FBI and AG in her pocket. She also deleted tens of thousands of her emails that were evidence, after being subpoenaed. Were we supposed to take her word for it that there was nothing there to see? Would anyone believe the extent of her corruption, if not for the hacking?

I think that you should back up and regroup. You are the one that is supporting a felonious criminal. Don't blame Russia or Trump for what Hillary is responsible for.

Wow..my question was simple. It was about the Russians hacking private emails, not Clinton but private emails. Then those emails, some altered by the hackers being used by one party for attacks with NO condemnation of the hacking.

Responses were about Clinton emails which are not related at all. Or about the tapes, proven altered and criminally obtained paid for from a charitable foundation...a comment about NY Times offering money for Trump tax returns, which I never head before, and a comment that they have them.. Nobidy has seen Trumps tax returns,

Again, is it ok for a foreign government like Russia to havk private emails, and one party to use those stolen emails daily in their campaig ?

Like I said, B.S.! Not even worthy of more consideration in my response.

Fine..In your opinion it is fine

Wouldn't one think that a successful businessnan would have a leg up when it came to understanding the hows if a rigged system? All this talking of the election being rigged is just preparation for the exit interview.

Have it your way. You aren't my 13 year old grand daughter are you? You sound just like her.

I wonder if Bernie thinks the system was rigged. Those evil emails sure seemed to indicate some collusion going on. Debbie didn't get fired for doing a great job, I'm sure.

If my granddad had the same response to questions.....BS.....then I would say that is great.

If i were her, I would stop asking you any intelligent questions.

When you respond BS, and that is it....well, then you have nothing to add then you must agree

BUT, Trump walks away when he is uncomfortable with the question as well so .....

Of course he does!
And so does anybody else with half a brain and some research and thinking ability.

Rigged election language back in 2007/2008 when the Obamas were whinning about it was/is OK. Of course it was/is...they are democrats!!

Sorry...was behind in reading and missed this....

"In the latest edition of the KKK’s official newspaper, “the Crusader,” the one with a picture of Donald Trump gracing the cover, the editors gave Donald J. Trump a “glowing endorsement” and support for his candidacy and promised that Trump is finally bringing about “a resurgence of white supremacy.”

"the point is that Trump has incited the white supremacist sect in America and now that he is their champion, he can stop the pretense that he is not a white supremacist that fits perfectly with the KKK mold. This endorsement should not be a surprise because barely two weeks ago the editor of the white supremacist website Daily Stormer, Andrew Anglin, told the Los Angeles Times that “Virtually every alt-right Nazi I know is volunteering for the Trump campaign.”

Donald Trump Finally Wins a Newspaper Endorsement - From the KKK

Sorry I missed this important and long worked for endorsement

Do you really want to go there? Hillary has avoided answering more questions than OJ Simpson. Even on the last debate, she refused to answer questions and went off on a diatribe dedicated to another subject. Get real.

But, when you reply to a comment that someone posts with a teenage girl answer, I just say it as I see it. B.S!

You are VERY confused, among other things.

I ASKED the question about your comfort level on Russians hacking private emails (unrelated to Clinton) and in some cases altering them, and thosenstolen private emails being used by ONE SINGLE party and campaign.

All of that is factually true.

Your response was.....

BS

I avoided no question.

Friend, with all due respect if you wish to get snarky, that's totally up to you. You did not like my answer because it was not one that you were expecting, so you got all huffy like a little girl and responded like one. That's fine, but don't forum stalk me and think that you are going to get the better of me. Because the only way you could would be if I cared. I don't, so go play your little girl games on facebook or with the other kids.

Next time you wish an answer from me, ask civilly and I will respond in kind. If you then don't like or agree with my reply, simply say so but don't try to put words in my mouth. That is why I called you antics, childish.

I am glad whoever is hacking the emails made them public, I would have had no idea most of these things were being done behind my back. I am mad at the people we trusted (when we elected them) for doing this absolute corrupt behavior.

But, that is just me.

What evidence do you have any of the emails where altered?

Did Hillary say so?? The same Hillary that said she never used her server for classified emails, said she had no idea what happened to 33,000 emails, said she never took donations from foreign countries while she was Sec of State??

You do realize...

1. ONLY ONE party has been hacked and ONLY ONE party has these emails made public.

Are you so naive that you think emails not hacked and not released from the other side are all peaches and cream ? Do you really in your heart think that this kind of thing AND WORSE occur within the other party ? You cannot actually believe this

2. You do understand that the hacking and choice of who to hack and disclose was done by the RUSSIANS ? You are aware that just based on what you posted the Russians have some control over our electoral system ?

It, to me anyway, is shocking how blasé some like you are about this.

"New evidence is emerging that content from the DNC emails accessed by Russian hackers may have been altered before being released to Wikileaks. This added layer of information joined with the timing of the release and Trump’s cozy relationship with Putin paint a picture of deep collusion and planning aimed at fracturing any potential Democratic unity at the most crucial point in the 2016 presidential election cycle.

Thomas Rid at Motherboard Vice reported on the discovery this morning:"

"The metadata show that the Russian operators apparently edited some documents, and in some cases created new documents after the intruders were already expunged from the DNC network on June 11. A file called donors.xls, for instance, was created more than a day after the story came out, on June 15, most likely by copy-pasting an existing list into a clean document.

Although so far the actual content of the leaked documents appears not to have been tampered with, manipulation would fit an established pattern of operational behaviour in other contexts, such as troll farms or planting fake media stories. Subtle (or not so subtle) manipulation of content may be in the interest of the adversary in the future. Documents that were leaked by or through an intelligence operation should be handled with great care, and journalists should not simply treat them as reliable sources."
Russian Hackers Altered Emails Before Release to Wikileaks

Prove anything beyond a shadow of a doubt..of course not.

But you do know they are shared within hours of release with no context.

And most alarming is your non concern for the act itself, that you would be concerned more about what Clinton said or didnypt say.

Why does not the sheer act of Russia stealing and attempting to sway your vote concern you ?

Sounds like you are questioning yourself hear, I did not say or infer anything of the kind. I said I was mad that these people we elected betrayed our trust. appears you are mad it was your party that got put on display.



I am not certain who did the hacking, don't care either. Again; I am mad at those elected that betrayed us all

I am shocked your outraged at the hackers and not outraged at those that have betrayed the trust we gave them thru election. We did not entrust the hackers, the hackers did not betray us.

Another thing evident; these hackers have shown how those entrusted with our national security have been foolish with internet security. Too busy campaigning for their party the last 1 1/2 years...absolute B.S.