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TheDude 11-24-2016 04:54 PM

District 10
 
What do people think of District 10. What are the positives and negatives? Just wondering if anyone had opinions.

CWGUY 11-24-2016 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JLS33 (Post 1325424)
What do people think of District 10. What are the positives and negatives? Just wondering if anyone had opinions.

Better question: How many people (including those that live there) know where District 10 is?

:shocked: VCDD District Map

TheDude 11-24-2016 05:36 PM

okay, add that to my questions...

Daddymac 11-24-2016 06:01 PM

South of 466A

TheDude 11-24-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Daddymac (Post 1325438)
South of 466A

lol. Okay, cross that one off the list.

rustyp 11-24-2016 06:35 PM

It will be a long time before you have your own representatives.

JoMar 11-24-2016 09:59 PM

Have been here over 2 years.....have no issues at this point although when we get our own representation is could change.

twoplanekid 11-25-2016 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1325444)
It will be a long time before you have your own representatives.

I believe that we have four elected representatives on the board and only one landowner representative who's term will expire in 2018.

VCDD Board of Supervisors

rustyp 11-25-2016 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1325637)
I believe that we have four elected representatives on the board and only one landowner representative who's term will expire in 2018.

VCDD Board of Supervisors

I think you are correct. Shows how long I've been here. It seems like district 10 was recently formed. I just looked it up - established 2004.

dbussone 11-25-2016 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Daddymac (Post 1325438)
South of 466A



Districts 9 & 11 are also south of 466A. And soon to be District 12 is WAY south of 466A

WhoDat 11-25-2016 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1325693)
I think you are correct. Shows how long I've been here. It seems like district 10 was recently formed. I just looked it up - established 2004.

I think we just elected a landowner representative in the recent election, Bill Lorenz.

NavyNJ 11-25-2016 07:26 PM

Life's definitely better than in District 9!!!!! :)

District 9 - Trailer - YouTube

Goldwingnut 11-28-2016 04:01 PM

District 10 has had elected representatives since 2014 - Myself (Don Wiley) and Tim Sennett, two additional representatives were elected, Pat McDonald and Bill Lorenz, this year and were sworn in at the November District 10 meeting. The final land owner elected representative, J. R. Rebecky, is also a resident of District 10 in the Dunedin.

District 10 is currently the largest of the 12 numbered districts and will likely have the largest population upon final buildout of the planned residents of the current 12 residential districts.
The District was built from the west to the east end and as a result the western villages are a little more established than the eastern villages. Not that one end of the district is any better than the other, only that there is no longer any primary construction in the western end and all the amenities are now complete while at the eastern end of the district home construction is ongoing and some of the amenities and commercial areas are still being built.

The western end is close to the Brownwood area and the Pinellas and Grand Traveras shopping areas. For the eastern end the shopping availability is mainly the Colony area (very busy) and the new shopping area still being built at the south end at SR44. For the eastern end Brownwood is about a 15-25 min golf cart drive depending on the area where you may live. Not a long trip but definitely not the 5 min jaunt that it is from Hillsborough or Collier.

In my opinion, what Osceola Hills, Soaring Eagle, and LaBelle lack in convenience to Brownwood they make up for in the picturesque landscape that surrounds these villages.

District 10 (and 9) is very spread out being 4.5+ miles east to west gives it easy access to not only the 5 rec centers in it but also the rec centers (3) in District 9.

Where the districts differ significantly in the southern end from the northern end of the villages is the major roads are wider and there is more green space both near the major roads, on the golf courses, as well as in general, or at least so it looks and feels.

In my opinion the most unjustified complaints I've heard are those comparing Brownwood to LSL and SS as well as the lack of shopping. The south end is still very young, 3-4 years old, as compared to LSL (10-12 years) and SS (20+ years). Give it time to grow and mature like the northern portions. If the "Developer" holds true to form there is a lot of growth yet to go down here that we know nothing about yet. (and No I don't have any inside knowledge of what is to come, one must assume that the "Developer" will continue to develop properties in order to stay in business and they have a formula that appears to be working well so why change)

District 10 is also very close to the Turnpike and I-75 making access to Orlando, Tampa, and beyond a bit easier. Not a major issues, but if you're a Disney fan or like me, still working, those extra 15-20 min of driving each way everyday start to add up quickly.

I will freely admit that when we first looked at buying in The Villages four years ago we looked at the area that now makes up Districts 9 & 10 and thought it was way out in the middle of nowhere and said no way not for us. Reality check, LSL & SS are not the center of the universe we thought they were during our lifestyle preview and as the last two and a half years have passed we've found ourselves looking north less and less for our fun and excitement and more to what is immediately around us.

I couldn't say if District 10 is any better than any other area of The Villages, it is definitely no worse than any other area. All the areas of The Villages have a lot to offer and their own appeal. For me, I'm a frog, here till I croak!

Bogie Shooter 11-28-2016 05:55 PM

What a well presented answer to the OP's original question. Good job!

justjim 11-28-2016 05:56 PM

Good information
 
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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 1326892)
District 10 has had elected representatives since 2014 - Myself (Don Wiley) and Tim Sennett, two additional representatives were elected, Pat McDonald and Bill Lorenz, this year and were sworn in at the November District 10 meeting. The final land owner elected representative, J. R. Rebecky, is also a resident of District 10 in the Dunedin.

District 10 is currently the largest of the 12 numbered districts and will likely have the largest population upon final buildout of the planned residents of the current 12 residential districts.
The District was built from the west to the east end and as a result the eastern villages are a little more established than the western villages. Not that one end of the district is any better than the other, only that there is no longer any primary construction in the eastern end and all the amenities are now complete while at the western end of the district home construction is ongoing and some of the amenities and commercial areas are still being built.

The eastern end is close to the Brownwood area and the Pinellas and Grand Traveras shopping areas. For the western end the shopping availability is mainly the Colony area (very busy) and the new shopping area still being built at the south end at SR44. For the western end Brownwood is about a 15-25 min golf cart drive depending on the area where you may live. Not a long trip but definitely not the 5 min jaunt that it is from Hillsborough or Collier.

In my opinion, what Osceola Hills, Soaring Eagle, and LaBelle lack in convenience to Brownwood they make up for in the picturesque landscape that surrounds these villages.

District 10 (and 9) is very spread out being 4.5+ miles east to west gives it easy access to not only the 5 rec centers in it but also the rec centers (3) in District 9.

Where the districts differ significantly in the southern end from the northern end of the villages is the major roads are wider and there is more green space both near the major roads, on the golf courses, as well as in general, or at least so it looks and feels.

In my opinion the most unjustified complaints I've heard are those comparing Brownwood to SL and SS as well as the lack of shopping. The south end is still very young, 3-4 years old, as compared to LSL (10-12 years) and SS (20+ years). Give it time to grow and mature like the northern portions. If the "Developer" holds true to form there is a lot of growth yet to go down here that we know nothing about yet. (and No I don't have any inside knowledge of what is to come, one must assume that the "Developer" will continue to develop properties in order to stay in business and they have a formula that appears to be working well so why change)

District 10 is also very close to the Turnpike and I-75 making access to Orlando, Tampa, and beyond a bit easier. Not a major issues, but if you're a Disney fan or like me, still working, those extra 15-20 min of driving each way everyday start to add up quickly.

I will freely admit that when we first looked at buying in The Villages four years ago we looked at the area that now makes up Districts 9 & 10 and thought it was way out in the middle of nowhere and said no way not for us. Reality check, LSL & SS are not the center of the universe we thought they were during our lifestyle preview and as the last two and a half years have passed we've found ourselves looking north less and less for our fun and excitement and more to what is immediately around us.

I couldn't say if District 10 is any better than any other area of The Villages, it is definitely no worse than any other area. All the areas of The Villages have a lot to offer and their own appeal. For me, I'm a frog, here till I croak!

Good information. We currently live in LaBelle North and it's a very friendly neighborhood. Goldwingnut, you got your directions mixed. Brownwood is on the western edge and LaBelle is on the eastern edge of District 10.

We like our location very much. Close to Colony, lots of golf opportunity close by, 15-20 minutes via golf cart to Brownwood and easy access to State Rt. 44 and soon an exit off Morse to the Florida Turnpike. It's all good.

Goldwingnut 11-28-2016 06:12 PM

You're right, got my east and west mixed up, fixed now.

Packer Fan 11-28-2016 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JLS33 (Post 1325424)
What do people think of District 10. What are the positives and negatives? Just wondering if anyone had opinions.

Great area. More pools and better green space. Love it. Have a house in Hillsborough

TheDude 11-28-2016 10:02 PM

When home closes, I will be in Dunedin and may be interested in becoming a representative someday also. The above review is great, thanks. Even when I was looking for homes I met someone who said they loving this area.

Question: In District 10, what is the snowbird population? Ballpark of course, and opinions of course. I ask because I see a lot of homes for sale in Dunedin being advertised as a perfect rental.

TheDude 11-28-2016 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NavyNJ (Post 1325803)
Life's definitely better than in District 9!!!!! :)

District 9 - Trailer - YouTube

District 10 is in 'The Hunger Games' Bigger movie :spoken:

asianthree 11-29-2016 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JLS33 (Post 1327049)
When home closes, I will be in Dunedin and may be interested in becoming a representative someday also. The above review is great, thanks. Even when I was looking for homes I met someone who said they loving this area.

Question: In District 10, what is the snowbird population? Ballpark of course, and opinions of course. I ask because I see a lot of homes for sale in Dunedin being advertised as a perfect rental.

Snowbird population is a mystery wherever you live. Maybe on your street or your block but other than that districts are really large. I know at night you can't even count on lights during off-season to tell you if someone's home now that there's new technology and/or the old fashion timer, to tell if someone's home.

rustyp 11-29-2016 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JLS33 (Post 1327049)
When home closes, I will be in Dunedin and may be interested in becoming a representative someday also. The above review is great, thanks. Even when I was looking for homes I met someone who said they loving this area.

Question: In District 10, what is the snowbird population? Ballpark of course, and opinions of course. I ask because I see a lot of homes for sale in Dunedin being advertised as a perfect rental.

A very interesting question. My opinion watching my friends move in over the years is that the further south the less the snowbird population. Again my opinion. When I first arrived here many of my friends were buying second homes. Now it seems they are all selling up north and purchasing home here. I suspect the higher prices of the houses are driving this.

Bogie Shooter 11-29-2016 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JLS33 (Post 1327049)
When home closes, I will be in Dunedin and may be interested in becoming a representative someday also. The above review is great, thanks. Even when I was looking for homes I met someone who said they loving this area.

Question: In District 10, what is the snowbird population? Ballpark of course, and opinions of course. I ask because I see a lot of homes for sale in Dunedin being advertised as a perfect rental.

What does this mean???

justjim 11-29-2016 10:35 AM

Snowbirds and Snowflakes
 
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Originally Posted by JLS33 (Post 1327049)
When home closes, I will be in Dunedin and may be interested in becoming a representative someday also. The above review is great, thanks. Even when I was looking for homes I met someone who said they loving this area.

Question: In District 10, what is the snowbird population? Ballpark of course, and opinions of course. I ask because I see a lot of homes for sale in Dunedin being advertised as a perfect rental.

What is the Snowbird population of District 10---good question. I can give you an opinion. BTY, we have lived in 4 different Villages in the last 10-11 years and they have all been new homes. The Snowbird population about the same in 3 Villages of mostly designer homes but our Villa neighborhood had more Snowbirds.

First, there are at least two labels put on part-time Village residents. Snowbirds and Snowflakes. A Snowbird is one who rents (usually winter months) and does not own a home in The Villages. A Snowflake is one who owns and "comes and goes" in The Villages but they do not rent their homes. A Snowflake may let friends or relatives occasionally use their home while they are gone. That "loosely" describes the two. Sometimes the two groups get mixed up and it's easy to see why.

As far as Snowbirds in my neighborhood of LaBelle. They are few. Villas perhaps, as a general rule, have the most Snowbirds and we only have one group of Courtyard Villas in LaBelle.

There are more Snowflakes than Snowbirds in my neighborhood. Again, not many. On my street and back street there are 4 Snowflakes (including us) and only 1 Snowbird home. I know there are Snowbirds and Snowflakes in Harlow Villas but I don't have a good idea how many.

Okay, you can see that when you take in the entire District 10 you have only a guess as to Snowbirds and, as one poster put it, a "mystery". Overall a Ballpark figure might be 8-12%.

RickeyD 11-29-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1327221)
What is the Snowbird population of District 10---good question. I can give you an opinion. BTY, we have lived in 4 different Villages in the last 10-11 years and they have all been new homes. The Snowbird population about the same in 3 Villages of mostly designer homes but our Villa neighborhood had more Snowbirds.



First, there are at least two labels put on part-time Village residents. Snowbirds and Snowflakes. A Snowbird is one who rents (usually winter months) and does not own a home in The Villages. A Snowflake is one who owns and "comes and goes" in The Villages but they do not rent their homes. A Snowflake may let friends or relatives occasionally use their home while they are gone. That "loosely" describes the two. Sometimes the two groups get mixed up and it's easy to see why.



As far as Snowbirds in my neighborhood of LaBelle. They are few. Villas perhaps, as a general rule, have the most Snowbirds and we only have one group of Courtyard Villas in LaBelle.



There are more Snowflakes than Snowbirds in my neighborhood. Again, not many. On my street and back street there are 4 Snowflakes (including us) and only 1 Snowbird home. I know there are Snowbirds and Snowflakes in Harlow Villas but I don't have a good idea how many.



Okay, you can see that when you take in the entire District 10 you have only a guess as to Snowbirds and, as one poster put it, a "mystery". Overall a Ballpark figure might be 8-12%.



I thought the opposite. Flakes being the renters and birds the owners ?

CFrance 11-29-2016 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1327246)
I thought the opposite. Flakes being the renters and birds the owners ?

I agree. Snowflakes are the renters. Snowbirds are the owners who don't live here full time.

And someone who shall remain nameless recently made up the term "seasonal residents" to get around the snowbird label!!!!:a20:

Barefoot 11-29-2016 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1327221)
First, there are at least two labels put on part-time Village residents. Snowbirds and Snowflakes. A Snowbird is one who rents (usually winter months) and does not own a home in The Villages. A Snowflake is one who owns and "comes and goes" in The Villages but they do not rent their homes.

There are many definitions of Birds, Flakes and Seasonal Residents.
I agree with Jim's definition of Snowbirds.
But I always thought Flakes were renters who drift in and out.
On the other hand, a Seasonal Resident owns a home in The Villages and lives there seasonally.
They pay amenities and taxes all year long and are pleased to do so.
A Seasonal Resident probably has a home up North where they spend summers. Generally speaking of course.
I'd guess that 30 to 40% of residents are seasonal. Some may rent their homes; many do not.

justjim 11-29-2016 06:16 PM

Snowbirds and Snowflakes
 
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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1327246)
I thought the opposite. Flakes being the renters and birds the owners ?

I have heard the term Snowbird for many years. It was a person from the northern part of the country who went south in the winter to get away from the cold and snow----thus they flew like a bird to a warmer climate to get away for the winter. Because they came back north when the snow melted and it got warmer they rented a "place" for the winter. In addition, some Snowbirds drove their Motorhome or pulled a trailer south for the winter.

On the other hand, I personally never heard of the term Snowflake until about 5 years ago while living here in The Villages. I have been told that a Snowflake is an owner of a home in The Villages who "comes and goes" and owns a second property where he may go at anytime of the year including winter or summer.

As I previously said in my former post, people often get the two mixed up and I totally understand why.

The OP, wanted to know a ballpark figure for the number of Snowbirds in District 10. My guess it is less than older Districts and it is in the 8-12% range. This is based on a Snowbird being a person (s) who comes to The Villages in the winter and rents a "place" to get away from the snow and cold up north.

asianthree 11-29-2016 08:45 PM

I am a snowflake I own a home in TV I am still working. I float in and out of TV as often as I would like. My other half was a Snowbird obviously an owner of a house who came down to get out of the snow. Now retired, leaves to go up north to our summer home, to get out go the Florida heat. So i would consider that seasonal, or three seasons. So our home has all of the above and been an owner since 2010.


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