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billethkid 11-25-2016 10:16 AM

Petraues is a better pick for Secretary of State than Romney
 
Others in ooposition had their moment where they ran against or disagreed with Trump.

Romney made it a spectacle which of course the media went nuts over and gave wide distribution. He personally attcked Trump:

Mitt Romney: Donald Trump is a 'phony, a fraud' - CNNPolitics.com

Romney should be brought to the fore and then dumped for Petraeus, who is better suited for the job in the first place.

janmcn 11-25-2016 10:56 AM

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Others in ooposition had their moment where they ran against or disagreed with Trump.

Romney made it a spectacle which of course the media went nuts over and gave wide distribution. He personally attcked Trump:

Mitt Romney: Donald Trump is a 'phony, a fraud' - CNNPolitics.com

Romney should be brought to the fore and then dumped for Petraeus, who is better suited for the job in the first place.


This is so amusing coming from the side that criticized Hillary Clinton for leaking classified material. What General Petraeus did with classified material was far worse and cost him his job.

billethkid 11-25-2016 11:13 AM

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This is so amusing coming from the side that criticized Hillary Clinton for leaking classified material. What General Petraeus did with classified material was far worse and cost him his job.

No actually what is amusing is how one can ignore what Clinton has done and be so specific about another's violations.

The only difference is Obama wanted Petraus gone and he continues to cover for Clinton.....at least up to her losing that is.

janmcn 11-25-2016 11:51 AM

The facts remain Petraeus passed around books full of classified material to his girlfriend/biographer. This cost him his job and almost cost him his marriage.

This doesn't look good on the old resume. Even Trump is smart enough to know not touch this one with a ten foot pole.

billethkid 11-25-2016 12:02 PM

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The facts remain Petraeus passed around books full of classified material to his girlfriend/biographer. This cost him his job and almost cost him his marriage.

This doesn't look good on the old resume. Even Trump is smart enough to know not touch this one with a ten foot pole.

So what does this view of wrong doing have to say with Clinton's mis handling and the loss of American lives and jeopardizing the security of the USA due to "MISHANDLING' of classified material.

He is no more disqualified than Clinton and his were lessor allegations.

What he did not have was Obama backing him and covering for him like he did/does for Clinton.

He is the better choice for the job of secretary of state....setting aside the BS guilty of what ever claims.

rubicon 11-25-2016 12:06 PM

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The facts remain Petraeus passed around books full of classified material to his girlfriend/biographer. This cost him his job and almost cost him his marriage.

This doesn't look good on the old resume. Even Trump is smart enough to know not touch this one with a ten foot pole.

I agree it sets bad precedent to go forward with Petraeus as Secretary of State. and as much as I like Rudy Giuliani he also would be a bad pick.

Romney would be the best pick because compared to most in Washington he is squeaky clean and he is intellectually up to the task.
He has different views than Trump on many issues which is a good thing because Trump needs people willing to speak up and to challenge his position. However Romney is also professional enough to do his due diligence when the final decision is made.

Personal Best Regards:

Paper1 11-25-2016 12:20 PM

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I agree it sets bad precedent to go forward with Petraeus as Secretary of State. and as much as I like Rudy Giuliani he also would be a bad pick.

Romney would be the best pick because compared to most in Washington he is squeaky clean and he is intellectually up to the task.
He has different views than Trump on many issues which is a good thing because Trump needs people willing to speak up and to challenge his position. However Romney is also professional enough to do his due diligence when the final decision is made.

Personal Best Regards:

For what it's worth I agree with your logic. Romney is the best pick as Trump has all hawks right now, they are great at war but totally ignorant to the cost of it. Everyone is salivating antisipating a giant unfunded spending spree. Romney would bring some level of reality to the party.

Don Baldwin 11-25-2016 01:04 PM

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For what it's worth I agree with your logic. Romney is the best pick as Trump has all hawks right now, they are great at war but totally ignorant to the cost of it. Everyone is salivating antisipating a giant unfunded spending spree. Romney would bring some level of reality to the party.

Oh God...you women crack me up...so naive. Trump is going to borrow/spend like a madman. Romney is Gordan Gekko from the movie Wall Street...a corrupt raider and destroyer of failing companies. He buys them cheap and sells off the pieces. A very few he's brought back...because it was profitable for him.

Meet the new boss...he's gonna spend like the old boss.

Rockyrd 11-25-2016 01:23 PM

"President-elect Donald Trump intends to launch a broad legislative agenda that includes cutting taxes, rolling back the Affordable Care Act, growing the military and rebuilding the nation’s infrastructure.

The question is how congressional Republicans, after eight years of apocalyptic warnings about the growing national debt, will respond to the dire fiscal implications of proposals that would likely send the deficit soaring.

Taken together, the Trump agenda stands to drain hundreds of billions of dollars a year from the federal balance sheet. His proposed tax cut alone, according to independent analysts, could cost the Treasury as much as $7.2 trillion over a decade."


How to pay for Donald Trump’s trillion-dollar agenda? Congressional Republicans aren’t saying. - The Washington Post

Don Baldwin 11-25-2016 01:58 PM

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"President-elect Donald Trump intends to launch a broad legislative agenda that includes cutting taxes, rolling back the Affordable Care Act, growing the military and rebuilding the nation’s infrastructure.

The question is how congressional Republicans, after eight years of apocalyptic warnings about the growing national debt, will respond to the dire fiscal implications of proposals that would likely send the deficit soaring.

Taken together, the Trump agenda stands to drain hundreds of billions of dollars a year from the federal balance sheet. His proposed tax cut alone, according to independent analysts, could cost the Treasury as much as $7.2 trillion over a decade."


How to pay for Donald Trump’s trillion-dollar agenda? Congressional Republicans aren’t saying. - The Washington Post

Take the money from welfare and put the former recipients to work building the infrastructure...a la the public works projects during the depression.

THAT won't happen... So Trump will borrow...a LOT. Damn the torpedo's...full speed ahead!

MDLNB 11-25-2016 02:17 PM

It is not a choice of the two. Neither are worthy of the position. Both are disloyal and should not even be considered. There are far better choices out there than those two that are damaged goods. Trump's best choice would be to go over to the State Dept and burrow down in the present employment list until they find an experienced ambassador that has not been appointed but has risen through the ranks on merit. One that knows the workings of the job and has worked many countries. Vet him and then offer him the job.

Don Baldwin 11-26-2016 06:16 AM

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It is not a choice of the two. Neither are worthy of the position. Both are disloyal and should not even be considered. There are far better choices out there than those two that are damaged goods. Trump's best choice would be to go over to the State Dept and burrow down in the present employment list until they find an experienced ambassador that has not been appointed but has risen through the ranks on merit. One that knows the workings of the job and has worked many countries. Vet him and then offer him the job.

Ambassadorships are political appointments, reward for working hard for the candidate.

MDLNB 11-26-2016 06:45 AM

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Ambassadorships are political appointments, reward for working hard for the candidate.

Not all of them. Some become ambassadors by working up from the ranks. Yes, they are still appointed, but these are appointed by merit. I have known Management Officers that have worked their way up to Ambassador in several instances. But, the point is that those two, Romney and Petraeus are not good choices. There are career State Dept employees that have experience and ability to perform a great job in that position as SecState.

Petraeus is hardly better than Hillary, a criminal
Romney is a petulant loser with no loyalty.

jimbo2012 11-26-2016 07:40 AM

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Don Baldwin 11-26-2016 07:44 AM

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Not all of them. Some become ambassadors by working up from the ranks. Yes, they are still appointed, but these are appointed by merit. I have known Management Officers that have worked their way up to Ambassador in several instances. But, the point is that those two, Romney and Petraeus are not good choices. There are career State Dept employees that have experience and ability to perform a great job in that position as SecState.

Petraeus is hardly better than Hillary, a criminal
Romney is a petulant loser with no loyalty.

To sh!tty places...Somalia, S Africa, Haiti...not to Switzerland, Germany, France, England, Tahiti, and all the other "nice" places.

ColdNoMore 11-26-2016 07:54 AM


No surprise.

Having someone who is level-headed and intelligent...goes against everything Trump supporters stand for. :ohdear:

Don Baldwin 11-26-2016 09:45 AM

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No surprise.

Having someone who is level-headed and intelligent...goes against everything Trump supporters stand for. :ohdear:

Romney is Gordon Gekko from the movie Wall Street.

billethkid 11-26-2016 10:07 AM

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No surprise.

Having someone who is level-headed and intelligent...goes against everything Trump supporters stand for. :ohdear:

Remember one can go blind from excess self gratification!

janmcn 11-26-2016 11:00 AM

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No actually what is amusing is how one can ignore what Clinton has done and be so specific about another's violations.

The only difference is Obama wanted Petraus gone and he continues to cover for Clinton.....at least up to her losing that is.


The only one advocating for Petraeus to get a job in the Trump administration is Petraeus.

MDLNB 11-26-2016 11:13 AM

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To sh!tty places...Somalia, S Africa, Haiti...not to Switzerland, Germany, France, England, Tahiti, and all the other "nice" places.

Panama is a "sh***y place?" Ambassador Eaton was there in the early/mid 2000's. I remember him as the management officer in the American Embassy Ankara, Turkey. He is just one example. Just saying. It was just a suggestion as to finding decent people for the job, versus flawed political losers. After all, we saw what happened with Hillary as SecState.

graciegirl 11-26-2016 01:11 PM

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Oh God...you women crack me up...so naive. Trump is going to borrow/spend like a madman. Romney is Gordan Gekko from the movie Wall Street...a corrupt raider and destroyer of failing companies. He buys them cheap and sells off the pieces. A very few he's brought back...because it was profitable for him.

Meet the new boss...he's gonna spend like the old boss.

It wasn't THIS woman. I can spell anticipate.

Don Baldwin 11-26-2016 08:30 PM

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It wasn't THIS woman. I can spell anticipate.

Unfortunately, you're part of the only 10% of women who can think logically...anticipate future actions...act accordingly. Most just blindly...go with the flow...

I can understand the the whole "peace and love" thing, I can. In a perfect world it's what we'd have. We don't live in a perfect world and pretending it;s not there, ignoring it, silencing those who try to warn you...doesn't work. It works in YOUR home and social circle, but not in the "Real world". The real world is full of VERY mean and nasty people who would kill you for a few bucks. Luckily, they're still kept separated in their inner city slums. But they're spreading, encouraged by misguided liberals.

Talk to your "peers", try to get them to understand what liberal policies REALLY do. Trannies in bathrooms, diversity, quotas, lack of immigration enforcement...it's literally destroying our culture, society, and country.

bbbbbb 11-27-2016 12:53 PM

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[QUOTE=Guest]Others in ooposition had their moment where they ran against or disagreed with Trump.

Romney made it a spectacle which of course the media went nuts over and gave wide distribution. He personally attcked Trump:

Mitt Romney: Donald Trump is a 'phony, a fraud' - CNNPolitics.com

Romney should be brought to the fore and then dumped for Petraeus, who is better suited for the job in
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Regarding Romney. Well, I do not like to openly criticism anyone if I can avoid it. On Romney???
I was a token minority professor (NON MORMON) at a 100 per cent Mormon college. A bummer of an experience. The Mormons have this goal, take all the State or Fed funds and use them to promote Mormonism. Yes, not an exaggeration. If he Romney gets the gov job, he will build a huge following of Mormon employees, they will be on vacation 100 percent and around the world, promoting Mormonism.
Temple work and Building new Wards around the world. I have seen it folks, first hand. As their token Prof, I was required to develop all the new college courses, write the entire syllabus, write all the quizzes and tests and then TURN THAT INTO THE DEPT HEAD AND HE JUST GIVES IT all TO A NEW LAZY MORMON, ALL THE WORK IS DONE SO HE CAN NOW GET INTO HIS TEMPLE WORK. How about this one: A Mormon student is in the middle of his semester. He gets a surprise appointment to an overseas MISSION. So, for the rest of the school year, while he is on the MISSION, he gets A grades for all the subjects he is enrolled in, Honest folks, I saw it for three years in that sick religion. Have you seen the MOUNTAIN MEADOW MASSACRE movie on how the Mormons slaughtered settlers coming thru the Salt Lake area and then set it all up to blame the INDIANS??? Check it out. You will be amazed at what those people will and do and what they have done in the past. Do you know they do Temple work, they get lists of deceased persons then they yes,,,,,,,,,,,, WALK THEM THRU THE TEMPLE AND JOIN THE CHURCH AFTER THEY ARE ALREADY DEAD.
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janmcn 11-27-2016 01:46 PM

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Others in ooposition had their moment where they ran against or disagreed with Trump.

Romney made it a spectacle which of course the media went nuts over and gave wide distribution. He personally attcked Trump:

Mitt Romney: Donald Trump is a 'phony, a fraud' - CNNPolitics.com

Romney should be brought to the fore and then dumped for Petraeus, who is better suited for the job in
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Regarding Romney. Well, I do not like to openly criticism anyone if I can avoid it. On Romney???
I was a token minority professor (NON MORMON) at a 100 per cent Mormon college. A bummer of an experience. The Mormons have this goal, take all the State or Fed funds and use them to promote Mormonism. Yes, not an exaggeration. If he Romney gets the gov job, he will build a huge following of Mormon employees, they will be on vacation 100 percent and around the world, promoting Mormonism.
Temple work and Building new Wards around the world. I have seen it folks, first hand. As their token Prof, I was required to develop all the new college courses, write the entire syllabus, write all the quizzes and tests and then TURN THAT INTO THE DEPT HEAD AND HE JUST GIVES IT all TO A NEW LAZY MORMON, ALL THE WORK IS DONE SO HE CAN NOW GET INTO HIS TEMPLE WORK. How about this one: A Mormon student is in the middle of his semester. He gets a surprise appointment to an overseas MISSION. So, for the rest of the school year, while he is on the MISSION, he gets A grades for all the subjects he is enrolled in, Honest folks, I saw it for three years in that sick religion. Have you seen the MOUNTAIN MEADOW MASSACRE movie on how the Mormons slaughtered settlers coming thru the Salt Lake area and then set it all up to blame the INDIANS??? Check it out. You will be amazed at what those people will and do and what they have done in the past. Do you know they do Temple work, they get lists of deceased persons then they yes,,,,,,,,,,,, WALK THEM THRU THE TEMPLE AND JOIN THE CHURCH AFTER THEY ARE ALREADY DEAD.
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General Petraeus was fired from his CIA director's job for sharing classified information with his girlfriend/biographer. He was also demoted a few ranks. This is not something one would want or expect the Sec of State to engage in.

Next time keep your pants zipped, General Petraeus.

Don Baldwin 11-28-2016 06:22 AM

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General Petraeus was fired from his CIA director's job for sharing classified information with his girlfriend/biographer. He was also demoted a few ranks. This is not something one would want or expect the Sec of State to engage in.

Next time keep your pants zipped, General Petraeus.

Right...it's ALWAYS the man's fault...how about you WOMEN start to keep your legs closed. NO self control?

ColdNoMore 11-28-2016 07:18 AM

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Others in ooposition had their moment where they ran against or disagreed with Trump.

Romney made it a spectacle which of course the media went nuts over and gave wide distribution. He personally attcked Trump:

Mitt Romney: Donald Trump is a 'phony, a fraud' - CNNPolitics.com

Romney should be brought to the fore and then dumped for Petraeus, who is better suited for the job in
bbbbbb
Regarding Romney. Well, I do not like to openly criticism anyone if I can avoid it. On Romney???
I was a token minority professor (NON MORMON) at a 100 per cent Mormon college. A bummer of an experience. The Mormons have this goal, take all the State or Fed funds and use them to promote Mormonism. Yes, not an exaggeration. If he Romney gets the gov job, he will build a huge following of Mormon employees, they will be on vacation 100 percent and around the world, promoting Mormonism.
Temple work and Building new Wards around the world. I have seen it folks, first hand. As their token Prof, I was required to develop all the new college courses, write the entire syllabus, write all the quizzes and tests and then TURN THAT INTO THE DEPT HEAD AND HE JUST GIVES IT all TO A NEW LAZY MORMON, ALL THE WORK IS DONE SO HE CAN NOW GET INTO HIS TEMPLE WORK. How about this one: A Mormon student is in the middle of his semester. He gets a surprise appointment to an overseas MISSION. So, for the rest of the school year, while he is on the MISSION, he gets A grades for all the subjects he is enrolled in, Honest folks, I saw it for three years in that sick religion. Have you seen the MOUNTAIN MEADOW MASSACRE movie on how the Mormons slaughtered settlers coming thru the Salt Lake area and then set it all up to blame the INDIANS??? Check it out. You will be amazed at what those people will and do and what they have done in the past. Do you know they do Temple work, they get lists of deceased persons then they yes,,,,,,,,,,,, WALK THEM THRU THE TEMPLE AND JOIN THE CHURCH AFTER THEY ARE ALREADY DEAD.
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I'll bet most of them know how to properly use the '[/QUOTE]' function though. :oops:

And they know who is making the post...without the poster putting their user name multiple times in the post. :ohdear:

mstavola 11-28-2016 07:26 AM

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This is so amusing coming from the side that criticized Hillary Clinton for leaking classified material. What General Petraeus did with classified material was far worse and cost him his job.

What the general did was wrong, but it did not cost anyone their life as was the case with the hacked server in the basement. And we still do not know the full extent of the damage done from the reckless disregard for national security from the smartest woman in the world.

janmcn 11-28-2016 10:41 AM

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What the general did was wrong, but it did not cost anyone their life as was the case with the hacked server in the basement. And we still do not know the full extent of the damage done from the reckless disregard for national security from the smartest woman in the world.


How do you know it did not cost anyone their life? Petraeus turned over books full of classified material to his lover.

Trump is meeting with him today regarding the sec of state job, which fits perfectly with my theory that Trump only hires people who were fired or lost elections.

MDLNB 11-28-2016 04:23 PM

Romney = NO
Patraeus = NO

Find someone with less baggage and a bit of foreign policy knowledge. Perhaps a former Station Chief (CIA) that's been around a bit. They usually know more than the ambassadors.

janmcn 11-28-2016 05:41 PM

Petraeus is still serving his two year probation after pleading guilty. What he did was far worse than what Hillary Clinton was accused of doing, and yet she should go to jail while he becomes secretary of state. Go figure.

billethkid 11-28-2016 06:51 PM

Is it not amusing, no actually it is out right hillarious, the same folks who would look past all the wrong doing, law breaking, "careless and reckless" handling of the nation's security by Clinton have the nerve to attempt to cite what Pertaeus did wrong.

Un-:censored:-believeable!!!

TheDude 11-28-2016 10:29 PM

Trump needs to be loyal. Sec of State isn't more than a show position since modern times the president can do everything at any time. This is an honorary position. Romney no. Trump supporter yes.

MDLNB 11-29-2016 06:58 AM

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Trump needs to be loyal. Sec of State isn't more than a show position since modern times the president can do everything at any time. This is an honorary position. Romney no. Trump supporter yes.

It's obvious that you know nothing of the position SecState and their duties. We need someone with experience and integrity, not disloyal political hacks and national security violators.

Don Baldwin 11-29-2016 07:11 AM

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It's obvious that you know nothing of the position SecState and their duties. We need someone with experience and integrity, not disloyal political hacks and national security violators.

You do? You were one too? You're holding the latest "job description" in front of you?

ALL the appointed positions are POLITICAL appointments.

MDLNB 11-29-2016 07:17 AM

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You do? You were one too? You're holding the latest "job description" in front of you?

ALL the appointed positions are POLITICAL appointments.

There are thousands of political appointments. That does not preclude them from requiring a certain amount of experience and knowledge. Yes, I do know what the job entails, since I worked for several of them.

Don Baldwin 11-29-2016 07:22 AM

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There are thousands of political appointments. That does not preclude them from requiring a certain amount of experience and knowledge. Yes, I do know what the job entails, since I worked for several of them.

They KNOW how to play politics...THAT is the #1 priority. Sorry lady but the janitor doesn't know what REALLY goes on in the office.

If you DID "work for several" then you know that it's ALL politics...all bullsh!t...corruption.

Taltarzac725 11-29-2016 08:23 AM

Romney would be best choice Donald Trump has available to him. It would at least show that he is not just continuing the same kind of cronyism found in DC for the past 240 years.

Don Baldwin 11-29-2016 08:49 AM

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Romney would be best choice Donald Trump has available to him. It would at least show that he is not just continuing the same kind of cronyism found in DC for the past 240 years.

OMG...please...Romney IS Gordon Gekko from the movie Wall Street...he buys up failing companies cheap and sells off the part for a profit. He is NOT a "good man"...none of them are. They're ALL narcissistic psychopaths.

MDLNB 11-29-2016 08:59 AM

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They KNOW how to play politics...THAT is the #1 priority. Sorry lady but the janitor doesn't know what REALLY goes on in the office.

If you DID "work for several" then you know that it's ALL politics...all bullsh!t...corruption.

Well girl, it must be nice to be a know-in-all. It may be political appointments, but they still need to know the job. We have seen how hosed up Hillary was with it. She had no clue. That's why they need to appoint experienced people for positions. The Secstate is one of the most important cabinet positions.

Don Baldwin 11-29-2016 09:24 AM

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Well girl, it must be nice to be a know-in-all. It may be political appointments, but they still need to know the job. We have seen how hosed up Hillary was with it. She had no clue. That's why they need to appoint experienced people for positions. The Secstate is one of the most important cabinet positions.

Gotta keep that boot pressed against their neck? We're an empire, run by/for the corporations/wealthy, out for world domination. Secstate is the head Nazi, the one who twists the boot heel just right to get the desired results.

How does a "political appointee" get EXPERIENCE in harassing foreign countries into submission? What experience does Romney have in dealing with foreign governments? I'd agree that the assistants of the current Secstate would be the best choice. But ABILITY has nothing to do with political appointments. Because they TELL others what to do, they don't really DO anything. They talk, golf, lunch, dinner, and make deals. Others "get 'er done".


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