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Official roundabout rules, with link
OFFICIAL ROUNDABOUT RULES, WITH LINK:
Choose your lane: Approaching a two lane roundabout, make a lane choice according to the following rules: • If you intend to exit the roundabout more than halfway around, use the LEFT-HAND lane. • If you intend to exit the roundabout less than halfway around, use the RIGHT-HAND lane. • If you intend to continue straight through, use either lane unless signs or markings indicate otherwise. http://www.districtgov.org/community...t-02-08-12.pdf |
I get lost in roundabouts
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I add my opinion, some can disagree ICCL. :beer3:
* use your blinker light, even it you exit the first exit, so the cars waiting to enter the roundabout know your intensions. Plus cart path golf carts/bikers/walkers know your intentions. * yield to traffic in the roundabout. if Clear DON"T STOP THERE is NO STOP SIGN ENTERING ROUNDABOUT, its a yield sign. which means if coast clear you don't have to stop, Now 4 way stop requires you to stop behind/at the stop sign before your inline. * Don't enter the right lane switch to left lane and exit in the right going straight through just because its short and you don't have to turn your steering wheel as far. there may be some in you blind spot * Best not to have car beside you in the left lane while going through roundabout, not all cars exit at the first exit. car or truck ahead in roundabout has the right way, that's why you don't want to be beside them. * use your blinker, USE YOUR BLINKER, can't say this enough. |
Those Killer Circles
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When Mr. Schwartz originally built, please notice that there weren't any. Also note that there are far fewer accidents north of 466, where there aren't any circles on Morse. The stop signs work perfectly. No one knows how to drive them, the dotted lines belie what the signs say, they kill your tires, the stop-and-go plays havoc on your gas usage and they are too small in circumference to improve the flow of traffic. I rest my case. :rant-rave: |
Roundabouts are nothing but a traffic light replacement and work EXACTLY the same way.
If you wanted to turn right at a traffic light, you would make that lane choice before getting there and come at it from the right hand lane. You would also yield to anyone already in the traffic flow. If you wanted to turn left at a traffic light you would make that lane choice before getting there and come at it from the left hand lane. If you were planning to go straight through you would use either lane. Traffic light and roundabout work the same. |
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I would just add that the yield sign at the RB entrance means YIELD, to BOTH lanes, or you might have a nasty surprise at the first exit (you going straight in R lane and the inner lane vehicle going to YOUR first exit, which is straight for him from his point of entry)
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Official roundabout rules, with link
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fOR MY TWO CENTS WORTH
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YOU CAN READ THAT AS MOST OF US REALIZE THAT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES ARE DANGEROUS. You can actually LEGALLY make a right hand turn from the left hand lane. However, LEGAL does not mean it is safe to do so. The person in the traffic circle has the right of way over people trying to enter. You must assume the person trying to enter KNOWS THIS, SEES YOU, CARES WHAT YOUR RIGHTS ARE. You dare not slow down for the other person THINKS you are INCORRECTLY yielding to them. You need to THINK FOR OTHERS. I will not allow anyone to drive through the traffic circle next to me. First I cannot tell if you know I am there and secondly you are blocking my way to avoid an accident if someone incorrectly decides to enter the round a bout. MY DAD TAUGHT ME TO DRIVE. SIMPLE RULE, EXPECT THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU TO DO THE STUPIDEST POSSIBLE THING BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO. |
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Better yet, owners of rental homes should send round about safety rules and golf car safety to renters BEFORE they come to the Villages. We always sent them to our renters and visitors and they have all been very appreciative.
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They are now installing roundabouts in other towns and cities across the country. Why? They are safer and move the traffic more efficiently.
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You are right Sue, legal doesn't mean it is safe to do so. In both cases, the drivers in the right lane that broadsided them were not charged by the police. |
It's that time of year, roundabouts, paths all the b----ing starts
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Like Judge Judy says, "You can't fix stupid"
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My rule for roundabouts
do not enter when other cars are present then drive like hell to my exit so far it's working good |
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In this case, less effective also means fewer accidents. |
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Those which have been built here are much too small to make traffic flow safely and efficiently. The real problem is, regardless of how much the topic is talked and written about, 95% of the residents still don't know how to drive them! They either just don't get it, don't care or are simply scared to death of them. |
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Here's my favorite roundabout. Oh, wait. It's in Massachusetts, so it's called a rotary. This would be a riot after "happy hour."
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Replacing all the roundabouts in TV (it's not gonna happen by-the-way) would certainly result in far greater delays and almost as certainly an increase in the number of accidents. This claim is backed up by numerous traffic studies over the years as roundabouts have become more widespread. Roundabouts are only good at intersections and in areas that meet certain criteria, and the locations in TV where roundabouts have been implemented meet those criteria. From a more anecdotal perspective, I have been in TV for almost four years now, and I've never witnessed an accident in a roundabout. I've seen a few of the silly, potentially dangerous driver actions of course, but none that couldn't be avoided by adhering to the two most important roundabout driving principles... 1) when approaching a roundabout always yield to traffic in both lanes of the roundabout, and 2) never drive alongside another vehicle when within the roundabout. Obey those two "rules" and the only mistake that can hurt you in the roundabout is one of your own doing. I will agree with you that many residents, and especially visitors, don't know how to drive the roundabouts. But if you drive according to the two rules listed above, even those drivers' mistakes will be easily avoidable. By the way, just for the record, during my career I spent roughly thirty years in the field of traffic and transportation. I am a Professional Engineer in the State of Florida and have a Masters Degree in Transportation Engineering from the University of Florida. |
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The driver going the wrong way shook her fist at him. |
Yes, that is the situation you must watch out for. I have had a couple of close calls myself when I have been in the right lane. Only enter a roundabout when there will be no cars adjacent to you.
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Whenever I am in a round about I assume that anyone anywhere near me is a potential accident waiting to happen so I watch them all very carefully. I've seen plenty of stupid things happen but so far I have remained accident free. (knock on wood).
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People are human they make mistakes.
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Roundabouts are safer. |
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When you are already driving within our circles, only two vehicles (maximum, per lane) can barely drive in between each of the four exit/entrances. That is not efficient. They are too small and with the increased population, they seem to be ever-shrinking. No one ever said the circles would be replaced. Of course they won't be. And yes -- replacement would result in fewer accidents, as you said. Where does one find these "traffic studies" to substantiate what you are saying? I'm not really sure that the implementation of circles throughout the country is "widespread." Some -- yes, but limited, perhaps. In every single area where there is a circle, the intersection exactly mimics a four-way intersection which would have a minimum of two stop signs or a traffic light. There is no difference and it is pretty much universal throughout the country. "anecdotal perspective??? I've been in this area for an equal amount of time and have seen about half a dozen fender benders within a circle. A "professional engineer?" So is my husband. I have never heard of a degree in "transportation engineering," per se. Does it have something to do with a bus? |
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Dear PB, I hate to say I told you so, but.....I TOLD YOU SO!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Dear responder, If I know PB, who sometimes fails to see humor in little rolling, laughing icons---I doubt he will find your bus comment funny. (and I do hope it was intended to be FUNNY, and not just plain RUDE). After all, isn't this America's FRIENDLIEST home town???? |
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The efficiency of an intersection is measured more by how many vehicles can pass safely through the intersection in a given unit of time and...more importantly...how much delay there is for vehicles attempting to pass through the intersection. Overall vehicle delays on Buena Vista and Morse would increase dramatically if stop signs or traffic signals were implemented at current roundabout locations. Quote:
Sorry our one apparent point of agreement was really just a bit of careless writing on my part. :) Quote:
I particularly recommend the first link for a quick summary from the federal government, especially with respect to safety of roundabouts... Intersection Safety - Safety | Federal Highway Administration Intersection Safety - Safety | Federal Highway Administration WSDOT - Roundabout Benefits MythBusters Tackles Four-Way Stop V. Roundabout Traffic Throughput - nextSTL The Case for More Traffic Roundabouts Plenty more available, most easily found using typical searches. Quote:
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I know you were hanging on every word of this post, weren't you GE!!??!! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: |
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Just a couple of observations and points and then I'll quit. :thumbup: Since Buena Vista and Morse are our main thoroughfares, in the spirit of reaching a destination within a reasonable amount of time with no aggravation, it would be so nice to be able to drive from one end of TV to the other without so many of the circles. Unfortunately, not possible. I would guess that 98% of residents never dealt with circles in their previous home town. They had 2 to 4-way stop signs and traffic lights. They probably had a similar amount of accidents as here, give or take a few. Morse, north of 466, has no circles. Egress from each Villages is via a stop sign. Morse is only one lane in each direction with no median. There are hardly any accidents. :shrug: Okay. I'm done. Peace! :Screen_of_Death: |
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Well, my own wife went through the roundabout and broke the rules....as she cut from the outside lane to the inside lane right in front of me. When I caught back up with her, I mentioned how that is exactly the way NOT to do it. She said, well no one else was around, so no big deal. I hope she learns quickly, before someone else IS around her car.
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Traffic Circles
[QUOTE=l2ridehd;1325970]Roundabouts are nothing but a traffic light replacement and work EXACTLY the same way.
If you wanted to turn right at a traffic light, you would make that lane choice before getting there and come at it from the right hand lane. You would also yield to anyone already in the traffic flow. If you wanted to turn left at a traffic light you would make that lane choice before getting there and come at it from the left hand lane. If you were planning to go straight through you would use either lane. OK So: Hi, it seems to me that your description is the best of all and it does look good. Thanks bbbbbb |
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There is a traffic circle on Morse north of 466. Its just prior to 441. |
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