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Chatbrat 11-26-2016 02:44 PM

Child Endangerment
 
On the not to be mentioned online news service there is a video of parents having a toddler try to steer a golf cart.

This holiday weekend I've seen numerous infants & small children in golf carts.

Why does anyone have to endanger their dearest possession, to prove how "cool" it is to have a ride in a golf cart?

NotGolfer 11-26-2016 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1326120)
On the not to be mentioned online news service there is a video of parents having a toddler try to steer a golf cart.

This holiday weekend I've seen numerous infants & small children in golf carts.

Why does anyone have to endanger their dearest possession, to prove how "cool" it is to have a ride in a golf cart?

I agree with your statement! I've heard grandparents say with a chuckle, that "little so and so" wanted to drive and we let him because he/she enjoys it so much! It's so cute to watch them!!

How cute will it be if "little so and so" has a horrific accident??

Bonnevie 11-26-2016 06:09 PM

yes, I was merging at intersection of Canal and Bonita and the cart in front of me had a very young kid driving with a grandparent. You could tell the kid was nervous. It's one thing to let them go around the neighborhood, but out on some of the busiest streets is madness.

ColdNoMore 11-26-2016 06:13 PM

It's analogous to those parents who think it's cute, to let their children near wild animals.

All one can do is shake their heads and hope the child doesn't pay a price...for the adults ignorance. :(

Fredman 11-26-2016 06:16 PM

I watched that video in utter amassment. It was an example of how stupid parents can be

Challenger 11-26-2016 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1326120)
On the not to be mentioned online news service there is a video of parents having a toddler try to steer a golf cart.

This holiday weekend I've seen numerous infants & small children in golf carts.

Why does anyone have to endanger their dearest possession, to prove how "cool" it is to have a ride in a golf cart?

If they were driving on a diamond lane and can be identified, I hope the police will pay them a visit. This is so dangerous in so many ways that I also believe that the child is being unnecessarily endangered.

perrjojo 11-26-2016 10:09 PM

Our 11 year old granddaughter visited us and wanted to drive the cart. She is quite proficient at driving because they live on a farm and she drives one there. I told her, sorry you must be 14. I know you can drive but that is the law. I hope she learned a valuable lesson that day. It doesn't matter how good you are. The law is the law and it should be,obeyed.

Fraugoofy 11-27-2016 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1326120)
On the not to be mentioned online news service there is a video of parents having a toddler try to steer a golf cart.

This holiday weekend I've seen numerous infants & small children in golf carts.

Why does anyone have to endanger their dearest possession, to prove how "cool" it is to have a ride in a golf cart?

My boys have been driving mini bikes and dirt bikes and 4 wheelers since they were very young. Neither of them were allowed to drive our golf cart until they were 14. Period. I don't understand people letting young children drive. It's a tragedy waiting to happen!

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Chatbrat 11-27-2016 05:22 AM

Not just driving but riding in a golf cart-visualize an infant or toddler being crushed between an adult and a cart part or an infant or a toddler being launched out of a golf cart-there is not a person in the villages with enough strength to hold or prevent the launching of a child from a cart in the event of an accident

rubicon 11-27-2016 06:05 AM

I'll wager that the chances of a resident who indulges in this practice is a member of TOTV but if they were they believe you were speaking of someone other than themselves .

Retiring 11-27-2016 12:28 PM

Maybe it’s a generational thing. About 10 yrs ago I recall my dad taking my nephew, 4yo at the time, for a ride in the car (the child loves cars). Dad put him between he and the steering wheel to let him “drive.” When they returned my sister-in-law saw this seating arrangement and let in to my dad in a big way. Dad had a deer in the headlights look. He just didn’t see a problem. Now dad is 80 and I have no doubt he still sees nothing wrong with it. The old, I’m a good driver nothing will happen syndrome. Oh, I left out one key factor in the insanity I describe above – it was in NYC.

charmed59 11-27-2016 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1326311)
Not just driving but riding in a golf cart-visualize an infant or toddler being crushed between an adult and a cart part or an infant or a toddler being launched out of a golf cart-there is not a person in the villages with enough strength to hold or prevent the launching of a child from a cart in the event of an accident

At what age or size is it safe enough to ride in a golf cart?

fred53 11-27-2016 09:20 PM

Hmmm...I'm confused...
 
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Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1326296)
My boys have been driving mini bikes and dirt bikes and 4 wheelers since they were very young. Neither of them were allowed to drive our golf cart until they were 14. Period. I don't understand people letting young children drive. It's a tragedy waiting to happen!

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you say the couldn't drive the cart till they are 14 and yet they drive mini bikes, dirt bikes and 4 wheelers. Seems to be a hypocritical statement there. Wouldn't they be harmed either way? There are numerous reports of young kids driving those bikes and 4 wheelers hurt/maimed/killed every year. Seems a responsible parent would have better sense as their reflexes and experience are a negative when it comes to reacting properly. Foolish.

Nucky 11-27-2016 10:17 PM

I cringe also I will admit. Some of these kids just look to young but I had a neighbor who shot me this from Englishtown Raceway Park Englishtown N.J. It is aimed as a family unifying event. All four of his kids, 3 boys and 1 girl were involved and finished high school with no drug or alcohol addiction. They all started driving on their grandfathers farm in south Jersey on a Golf Cart.

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circletrack 11-27-2016 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fred53 (Post 1326587)
you say the couldn't drive the cart till they are 14 and yet they drive mini bikes, dirt bikes and 4 wheelers. Seems to be a hypocritical statement there. Wouldn't they be harmed either way? There are numerous reports of young kids driving those bikes and 4 wheelers hurt/maimed/killed every year. Seems a responsible parent would have better sense as their reflexes and experience are a negative when it comes to reacting properly. Foolish.

I'm assuming it has more to do with the law than safety.

RickeyD 11-28-2016 12:22 AM

Don't care, not my kids doing that to my grandkids, nor would they be as stupid.

Barefoot 11-28-2016 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1326274)
Our 11 year old granddaughter visited us and wanted to drive the cart. I told her, sorry you must be 14.

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Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1326296)
Neither of them were allowed to drive our golf cart until they were 14.

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Fraugoofy 11-28-2016 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1326616)
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Thanks, barefoot!!

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Fraugoofy 11-28-2016 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by circletrack (Post 1326598)
I'm assuming it has more to do with the law than safety.

My boys always wore helmets, were supervised and grew up on a rural farm, where these practices are accepted and expected. My point was they were responsible drivers, could have easily driven golf carts, and didn't because we followed the rules.

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jblum315 11-28-2016 05:43 AM

Everyone should know that if a child under 14 is caught driving a cart the infraction is recorded by the DMV and that child will not be allowed to get a drivers license when it hey are 16. I think they have to wait another ther two years

Chatbrat 11-28-2016 06:22 AM

When they go back to their home state, they will be charged with being an unlicensed operator , when they apply for a driver's license

However; the endangerment is when you have a child unrestrained in a golf cart, when if they were in a CAR they would have to be in a child seat or booster seat-considering a car has air bags, a real structure than is designed to mitigate impact.

Got carts are truly death traps for children & small adults--they have no inherent safety features.

ColdNoMore 11-28-2016 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1326620)
My boys always wore helmets, were supervised and grew up on a rural farm, where these practices are accepted and expected. My point was they were responsible drivers, could have easily driven golf carts, and didn't because we followed the rules.

Same here.

Mine (sons and daughter) were raised riding dirt bikes, 4-wheelers, go-carts and snowmachines...with the appropriate PPE of course.

They were also restricted to the less powerful machines at first...which were age appropriately designed.

While there is no question in my mind that they could safely operate golf carts (better than a large number of current elderly drivers), they would not have been allowed to drive here because of one thing...the law/rules.

Not to mention that current golf carts, especially those without seat belts...are much more dangerous than what they learned to ride/drive.

Chatbrat 11-28-2016 07:57 AM

There is a video of golf cart crash tests carried out by the European saftey association, the tests were conducted @ 31mph--very revealing, the dummies were strapped in--any child in the vehicle IMHO would be killed, especially if held on the lap of any occupant

The final conclusion is" these vehicles are not designed to share roads with cars"


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