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jimbo2012 11-29-2016 01:54 PM

Sanctuary cities
 
Gov. GregAbbott_TX will ban sanctuary cities in Texas-

Gov. Abbott's top priority is the safety of the people.


Should they defy Federal laws harboring criminals :rant-rave:

autumnspring 11-30-2016 03:13 PM

It is another issue of states rights
 
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Gov. GregAbbott_TX will ban sanctuary cities in Texas-

Gov. Abbott's top priority is the safety of the people.


Should they defy Federal laws harboring criminals :rant-rave:


Obama seemed to believe in a far too strong central government. Gay marriage-whether you want it or not, gun control-whether you want it or not. allowing news sources to be able to be reduced for 49 in the 2960's TO ONLY FIVE. YOU CAN BUY A FLAG AND BURN IT-BUT YOU CANNOT BUY A KORAN AND BURN IT.

The vote is CLEAR. THE AMERICAN VOTERS DO NOT WANT BIG GOVERNMENT-SOCIALISM.

janmcn 11-30-2016 03:19 PM

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Obama seemed to believe in a far too strong central government. Gay marriage-whether you want it or not, gun control-whether you want it or not. allowing news sources to be able to be reduced for 49 in the 2960's TO ONLY FIVE. YOU CAN BUY A FLAG AND BURN IT-BUT YOU CANNOT BUY A KORAN AND BURN IT.

The vote is CLEAR. THE AMERICAN VOTERS DO NOT WANT BIG GOVERNMENT-SOCIALISM.


Justice Antony Scalia and the Supreme Court decided (twice) that burning a flag is covered under the first amendment's freedom of speech. President Obama had nothing to do with it.

jimbo2012 11-30-2016 03:26 PM

an amendment to the Constitution itself, or a subsequent decision by the Supreme Court, would overrule the court's decision. :read:

Don Baldwin 11-30-2016 05:05 PM

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an amendment to the Constitution itself, or a subsequent decision by the Supreme Court, would overrule the court's decision. :read:

Boy...there are SO MANY rulings they've made in the past that should be overturned. ALL the equality stuff. Takings, corporations are people...they're a start.

rubicon 12-01-2016 05:57 AM

Its clear that flag burning is protected by the First Amendment and affirmed by the court and by the best jurist this nation has ever had sit on the Supreme Court. Its also clear that the greater majority of people view flag burning and burners in the negative which is a very positive sign.

What we have to watch is when the flag burning goes beyond that point and questionable behavior takes hold. Perhaps then there would be cause to stop/arrest the perpetrator

The First Amendment right is guaranteed to offend someone. Progressives either ignore this reality or are not aware of it. Hence we get the trigger warnings, etc and call for safe spaces .

We see an example of this call for safe spaces at Hampshire university in Amherst,MA where the flag has been removed. Worse yet in the center of town they raised the united nations flag in place of the American flag .

Personal Best Regards:

jimbo2012 12-01-2016 06:25 AM

Maybe we need to test the Supreme court for another look at this.

If this were during WWII do you think the reaction would be different?

Don Baldwin 12-01-2016 06:30 AM

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Posted by Guest
Its clear that flag burning is protected by the First Amendment and affirmed by the court and by the best jurist this nation has ever had sit on the Supreme Court. Its also clear that the greater majority of people view flag burning and burners in the negative which is a very positive sign.

What we have to watch is when the flag burning goes beyond that point and questionable behavior takes hold. Perhaps then there would be cause to stop/arrest the perpetrator

The First Amendment right is guaranteed to offend someone. Progressives either ignore this reality or are not aware of it. Hence we get the trigger warnings, etc and call for safe spaces .

We see an example of this call for safe spaces at Hampshire university in Amherst,MA where the flag has been removed. Worse yet in the center of town they raised the united nations flag in place of the American flag .

Personal Best Regards:

They NEED "safe spaces" because they're NOT equal. They NEED quotas because they're NOT equal. When will you admit they're not equal?

justjim 12-01-2016 09:15 AM

Sanctuary
 
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Posted by Guest
Gov. GregAbbott_TX will ban sanctuary cities in Texas-

Gov. Abbott's top priority is the safety of the people.


Should they defy Federal laws harboring criminals :rant-rave:

Well, States defy Federal laws by making drugs legal in their State so.......

Sanctuary cities, churches, Universities, etc. etc. What do you or anyone else propose we do? Or better yet, what do you think anybody is going to do? I say NOTHING and you are naive if you think different.

billethkid 12-01-2016 10:13 AM

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Well, States defy Federal laws by making drugs legal in their State so.......

Sanctuary cities, churches, Universities, etc. etc. What do you or anyone else propose we do? Or better yet, what do you think anybody is going to do? I say NOTHING and you are naive if you think different.

ENFORCE the laws of the land.......FIRST!!!

MDLNB 12-01-2016 10:17 AM

Charge flag burners with burning without a permit. If they ask for a permit, deny it due to the pollution aspect of burning the flag in pubic. If it is dealing with pollution, then the liberals would be in a conundrum. Surely, they would not want to be construed as hypocrites.

outlaw 12-01-2016 11:08 AM

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Well, States defy Federal laws by making drugs legal in their State so.......

Sanctuary cities, churches, Universities, etc. etc. What do you or anyone else propose we do? Or better yet, what do you think anybody is going to do? I say NOTHING and you are naive if you think different.

Hang on! The "new sheriff in town" and his administration and congress are going to do plenty. I can hardly wait.:a040: outlaw

autumnspring 12-01-2016 11:13 AM

You ducked the issue
 
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Justice Antony Scalia and the Supreme Court decided (twice) that burning a flag is covered under the first amendment's freedom of speech. President Obama had nothing to do with it.

If, we accept FLAG BURNING as freedom of speech, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BURN THE KORAN, THE BIBLE OR WHATEVER YOU HOLD SACRED.

Aside: As I expect you know the ruling is that you can burn the American flag BUT, YOU MUST OWN IT. You cannot burn someone else's flag. AND AS THE LIBERALS SO EFFECTIVELY DO BURNING MY COUNTRIES FLAG IN PUBLIC IS A FIRE HAZARD FOR WHICH YOU CAN BE ARRESTED.

Don Baldwin 12-01-2016 12:31 PM

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Hang on! The "new sheriff in town" and his administration and congress are going to do plenty. I can hardly wait.:a040: outlaw

Sure he will...he's hanging out with the usual suspects...nothing will change because the same old corrupt cronies will be running things. IF he'd brought in his friends, political nobodies, I'd believe his pre-election rhetoric...this is "meet the new boss, same as the old boss". Except now, the Rs are in total power as opposed to the Ds. Money...lots of it...will be borrowed and spent.

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If, we accept FLAG BURNING as freedom of speech, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BURN THE KORAN, THE BIBLE OR WHATEVER YOU HOLD SACRED.

Aside: As I expect you know the ruling is that you can burn the American flag BUT, YOU MUST OWN IT. You cannot burn someone else's flag. AND AS THE LIBERALS SO EFFECTIVELY DO BURNING MY COUNTRIES FLAG IN PUBLIC IS A FIRE HAZARD FOR WHICH YOU CAN BE ARRESTED.

YES...that is what freedom of speech IS. EVERYONE gets to talk, especially those who disagree with everyone else. The mob is often wrong.

janmcn 12-01-2016 02:28 PM

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Posted by Guest
If, we accept FLAG BURNING as freedom of speech, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BURN THE KORAN, THE BIBLE OR WHATEVER YOU HOLD SACRED.

Aside: As I expect you know the ruling is that you can burn the American flag BUT, YOU MUST OWN IT. You cannot burn someone else's flag. AND AS THE LIBERALS SO EFFECTIVELY DO BURNING MY COUNTRIES FLAG IN PUBLIC IS A FIRE HAZARD FOR WHICH YOU CAN BE ARRESTED.


Just don't burn the Koran in The Villages, you'll probably set your neighbor's house on fire.

TexaninVA 12-01-2016 09:36 PM

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Charge flag burners with burning without a permit. If they ask for a permit, deny it due to the pollution aspect of burning the flag in pubic. If it is dealing with pollution, then the liberals would be in a conundrum. Surely, they would not want to be construed as hypocrites.

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