The Agenda of Misinformation Rages On
 

Julian Assange from Wikileaks has repeatedly explained that the information he released was not a Russian hacks but an insider leak

The insider who leaked this information did so because Hillary connived with the DNC to fix the primary schedule to disadvantage Bernie, received advance notice of live debate questions to use against Bernie, accepted massive donations to the Clinton foundation and family members in return for foreign policy influence, failed to distance herself from some very weird and troubling people, then none of this would have happened.

Craig Murray, the former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, who is a close associate of Assange, said "I know who leaked them, I've met the person

The left's agenda of misinformation rages on


Personal Best Regards

There's misinformation on BOTH sides...on ALL sides. The world is FULL of lies and deception.

This post is almost word for word from a website called ZERO HEDGE.

This is what ZERO HEDGE is all about...

"Zero Hedge's content is conspiratorial, anti-establishment, and economically pessimistic,[3] and has been criticized for presenting extreme and sometimes pro-Russian views.[1][4][5]"

Zero Hedge - Wikipedia

This is more from a Bloomberg article on WHO and WHAT ZERO HEDGE REALLY IS....a quote that ends that article.

"“I can’t be a 24-hour cheerleader for Hezbollah, Moscow, Tehran, Beijing, and Trump anymore. It’ s wrong. Period. I know it gets you views now, but it will kill your brand over the long run,” Lokey texted Ivandjiiski. “This isn’t a revolution. It’s a joke.”

Unmasking the Men Behind Zero Hedge, Wall Street's Renegade Blog - Bloomberg

This is a cut and paste from that sire where this post was stolen...

"that if Hillary Clinton had not connived with the DNC to fix the primary schedule to disadvantage Bernie, if she had not received advance notice of live debate questions to use against Bernie, if she had not accepted massive donations to the Clinton foundation and family members in return for foreign policy influence, if she had not failed to distance herself from some very weird and troubling people, then none of this would have happened."

This is a link to that website so you can see exactly those words that were stolen to make this post.

Former UK Ambassador Blasts "CIA's Blatant Lies", Shows "A Little Simple Logic Destroys Their Claims" | Zero Hedge

I was out of here but in reading, I was shocked that someone would first of all frequent such a site.....and then to plagerize that site.

THIS is exactly the reputation that TOTV is garnering.

As we've seen, the anti-truth, alt-right right doesn't care where their sources come from...or whether they are even close to the truth.

Not only do a lot of them cut/paste without a link for citation (because most are at least barely smart enough to know they are bogus and are ashamed to show the source)...they think saying it enough times might make it true.

And now we have the POTUS-elect choosing an advisor, who thrives on and became wealthy...spewing such ignorant misinformation. :oops:

Add the fact that Chump doesn't even believe the 17 intelligence agencies, but believes a nutcase conspirator like Bannon...and we have truly entered the Twilight Zone. :ohdear:

Oh he believes it alright he just won't admit it because if he did he would be admitting Putin put his thumb on the scale.

Wow! The losing teams anti everything, BS talking machine is really in overdirve.

Self gratification or desparation?
I guess one drives the other or visa versa!

Trumps own biographer said this about our President elect...

"Trump biographer: Trump didn't pay taxes for 2 reasons Trump biographer: Trump didn't pay taxes for 2 reasons
Wednesday, 3 Aug 2016 | 2:18 PM ET | 06:47
Donald Trump has a "minimal relationship with the truth," according to the GOP nominee's biographer David Cay Johnston.

"Donald makes up things he creates his own reality," Johnston said on CNBC's "Power Lunch" on Wednesday. "And in his mind, there's nothing wrong with that."


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump...n-reality.html

He lies, then when called on them, he accuses his accusers of lying,, which is part of him establishing his own reality.

Problem is he is dragging so many people with him. So many who believe him when he drives followers to the conspiracies and alt right direction of pure hate and then makes accusations to insure that nobody believes the media in any way.

He is an insult to my conservative values. He hates, I do not. He distorts reality and then tells those poor followers how uis reality is being distorted.

The ONLY place to get validation for his reality and hate is these website, and as we have seen, many of them put together by teenagers in eastern Europe.

He uses sources like Alex Jones...

"Alexander Emerick "Alex" Jones (born February 11, 1974)[3] is an American radio show host, documentary filmmaker, writer,[4] and conspiracy theorist.[5][6][7][8] He hosts The Alex Jones Show from Austin, Texas, which airs on the Genesis Communications Network[9] and shortwave radio station WWCR[10] across the United States and online.[11][12] His website, InfoWars.com, has been labelled a fake news website.[13][14]"

Alex Jones (radio host - Wikipedia)

This man has a website where the current headline says..."EMERGENCY: The gov't has announced they want to shut down this site." The Ultimate "Fake News" List >> Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

They list then what they say are fake news....among them..CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, NBC news, ABC news CBS news, MSNBC, BBC news, Financial Times, USA Today, etc.

I single out Alex Jones because this poster used him once as a source and our President elect calls him "amazing".

Jones, who at one time said that NOBODY WAS KILLED at Sandy Hook Elementary and it was a gov't conspiracy, something he also said about 9/11 which he said Bush was the conspirator.

And you wonder why our President held on to the conspiracy theory about Obama's birth until the last minute.

I am now totally embarassed to be a conservative Republican and please do not waste your breath telling me I am not a conservative Republican......I am just not a RADICAL, CONSPIRACY THEORIST who hates everyone by race, religion, political persuasion.

How about getting off the HATE trip you folks have gone on.

How about being rational for once. I must assume you support website like this and also support plagarism.

I believe in truth after investigating. You obviously believe in any conspiracy or hate theory that is peddled.

Found some more on the website plagiarized by the OP. They are bound to defend Russian interests in USA

[B]"One recent bill in the U.S. Congress is designed to crack down on websites suspected of spreading Russian propaganda. However, another more extensive bill goes even further establishing what Zero Hedge calls a de facto Ministry of Truth."

Op-Ed: Big Brother bill passing U.S. Congress with little media coverage

The OPs favorite site to read and plagerize also was mentioned in a story about some of the techniques used by the Russians.


"Conspiracy sites include outlets such as InfoWars and Zero Hedge, along with a host of lesser-known sites that repeat and repackage the same basic content for both right- and left-wing consumers. Sometimes, these intermediaries will post the same stories on sites with opposite political orientations. Data dump websites, such as Wikileaks and DC Leaks, overtly claim to be exposing corruption and promoting transparency by uploading private information stolen during hacks. But the timing and targets of their efforts help guide pro-Russian themes"

Russian propaganda is using Facebook, other social media sites to manipulate American voters - Salon.com

Everybody knows about these junk sites, thus you have to assume quite a bit about posters using them and stealing from them

One small correction on the highlighted part above.

No "assumption" is required, the truth to what you say about these posters...is plainly evident. :ohdear:

First this information did not come from any of those sites you cite. In fact I never heard of any of the sites you cite. secondly as you recall from your college days to use one line is called plagiarism but to use paragraphs is called research.:D I passed along a reading and that was my only mistake. Because....

Liberals rage is out of control and the campaign for misinformation about anything remotely connected to Trump will persist.

Liberals rage on until they destroy any person who disagrees with them. Its their modus operandi aka/ alinskyisms.

The site of this information was intentionally not cited and predictable the liberal response, discredit the person, discredit the site without even knowing the site because I didn't matter. However what was missing again was that never never did any on the left address or discuss the content. One wonders why?

The responses from this thread underscores the above-stated. The left's actions are reminiscent of what was once termed "brown shirts" Michael Moore leads this charge .

Personal Best Regards:

FROM YOUR POST

"Hillary connived with the DNC to fix the primary schedule to disadvantage Bernie, received advance notice of live debate questions to use against Bernie,

FROM THE WEBSITE

"that if Hillary Clinton had not connived with the DNC to fix the primary schedule to disadvantage Bernie,received advance notice of live debate questions to use against Bernie"

FROM YOUR POST

"accepted massive donations to the Clinton foundation and family members in return for foreign policy influence,"

FROM THE WEBSITE

"if she had not accepted massive donations to the Clinton foundation and family members in return for foreign policy influence,"

FROM YOUR POST

"failed to distance herself from some very weird and troubling people, then none of this would have happened."

FROM THE WEBSITE

"if she had not failed to distance herself from some very weird and troubling people, then none of this would have happened."


Research ? okay.

Definition of plagarism......

"THE UNAUTHORIZED USE OR CLOSE IMITATION OF THE LANGUAGE AND THOUGHTS OF ANOTHER AUTHOR AND THE REPRESENTATION OF THEM AS ONE’S OWN ORIGINAL WORK."


"Research is not merely the turning in a factual paper, research is a process and a system, one summarized by this definition:

DILIGENT AND SYSTEMATIC INQUIRY OR INVESTIGATION INTO A SUBJECT IN ORDER TO DISCOVER OR REVISE FACTS, THEORIES, APPLICATIONS.

Why Stealing From Many Isn't Research - Plagiarism Today

You would think that someone who wanted to "make america great again" would .......well..

You do what you want to do. I am not an enraged liberal, actually an enraged conservative Republican, as you say as you say or imply in almost every most....all devoid of any facts except those lifted from conspiracy websites.

You have also used fake news sites as backup a few times.

Just I value integrity above all.

OUCH! :D

You just left a large bruise, using his own words, on one of the people who love to pass on outright lies...garnered from fake news sites. :oops:

Next thing you know, he'll be crying because you ruined the bristles on his broad brush. :1rotfl:

Our system of government is threatened by partisanship and pride. It has become more important for your team to win than to do something to help our country. United we stand, divided we fall.

Allow me to also address a few other things in this particular post.

You say nobody addressed the issue...so much crap. What is the issue...it never changes.......and it is this, and by the way this is an opinion piece and NOT a reporting of news. The story that you deliver daily is that we are not to believe anything on the main stream media and should allow our opinions to be guided by websites who cater to conspiracy theory and NON USA opinions and thoughts.

By the way also, you have made fun of my presentation at times....at least they are my words and thoughts.

Secondly, as I said...I am not a "enraged liberal".

I am an enraged conservative Republican because of people like you who have taken to the disinformation anti american way of thinking. The party has been taken over by those who believe in hate for anyone that is not like them. Why do we need to have a conspiracy behind everything....that does remind me of the Russia of old.

You're not fooling anyone. Only libtards use the term "hate." If you want to be convincing, you have to drop the liberal talking points.

You know I never ever believed in labels, AND most importantly, you should read some of these websites.....and then tell me they are not hate filled and my party and my conservative movement is moving so fast to the alt right, their head is spinning.

You continue to work on "lables" and forget reading, understanding etc and you are at the mercy of these conspiracy theory groups, and yes well known HATE groups.

I do not fall for that schtick that is used by the Trump team...ie., accuse your enemy of doing what you do and keep them on the defensive. I try to stay with facts and facts only.

Integrity? Show me were all 100% of economists said trumps economic plan was bad?

And what is your explanation for the markets going wild?


Ps... never mind I promised myself not to deal with you..... and I have too much integrity to go back on my word. ;)

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Hate to say it, but you are not very convincing.

By the way, I do not frequent websites that I believe are totally one sided. I do want factual information, but not conspiracies. Hillary's crimes are NOT conspiracies. Trump being in Putin's pocket IS a lame liberal conspiracy.

But, you are not a convincing conservative Rocky. Sorry, but that is just my opinion, based on your record of comments. No offense intended.

Wow , we'll said.

Is it not dividing to politicize the hacking issue just before the Electoral vote and inauguration?

That is the only time that we can really stop Donald Trump from handing over more power to the Russians. He seems to be pretty much in bed with them.

Please explain the exact events which you hope will will transpire over the next 40 days. I am really curious, please be specific.

The election was not a lottery, where any anonymous person can win without knowing anything about them. The election was about knowing the candidate you chose to vote for. If Russia really did reveal information on Hillary that has not been disputed as being false, and then if she did not get the votes needed to win, it was a good thing for America. Nothing that was revealed about Hillary and her campaign was deemed to be false by anyone. The method was wrong but the information was correct. This is not a court of law where evidence is only valid if procured legally, with a warrant. Russis did not do anything that we haven't done. Really, we have done the same thing. As a matter of fact, Obama attempted to influence the elections in Israel. He also tried to influence the vote for Brexit. We were caught hacking Merkel's phone. SO, spys will be spys and espionage will be espionage. Let's face it, if the shoe was no the other foot and it was the RNC and Trump being hacked, we would not hear anything from the DEMs other than shouts of "right wing conspiracies."

So says the loser talking points and loser media and loser candidates (Obama).

So, I am close to agreeing with your premise, but WHY would you oppose an investigation into the hacking ?

The only folks making this political, on this forum anyway, are those who supported Trump.

I may have missed it but saw no posts saying Trump won only because of the hacking.

THUS....why do you not want to know who hacked our political parties and whether successful or not, TRIED to influence us.

Second verse same as the first ( Post #12)

Also do you honestly believe all these websites are not copying from one another? I mean they all say the same thing. Its like hip hop you have 10,000 singers and one song.

And you would have us believe they you are the only one who has captured the integrity market.

I may disagree with posters but never have I attacked them or their integrity.

Personal Best Regards:

Most of them do not steal and plagerize, and then defend their actions.

Your smart remarks do not make your actions any more tolerable...."1000 singers and one song"....sort of justifying your bad behavior.

Oh, I am certainly not one who preaches or can get close to spouting my perfection, however you can and have many times.

I DID NOT attack you. I simply pointed our your violation of the law and of TOTV rules.

You have decided to perpetuate that instead of showing any humility, which frankly is of no surprise.

NOBODY on here is above reproach, certainly not me, but you seem to think that you are.

This is not the first time and I had left the forum because I was tired of being lectured by people with no facts, but still continued to read and when you simply throw things in my face, it is hard to not react,

Yet you continue to defend your actions, as you feel just a cut above obviously. Anytime I am in error, I will apologize or acknowledge it, and I have never used anyones words without crediting the source, which is context.

You have made fun of me and others in the past in a general sense and questioned my presentation, but they were my words no matter how inadequate you found them

You mock anyone who is not of the same mind as you, as if they are beneath you, and that has included me on a number of instances. At least those thoughts were my own.

The cold war must be over. Obama loves Cuba...and well..ya never know.

This thread is very appropriately named.

The misinformed, those on the losing side, think that just because there is a lot of whinning, and arm and lip flapping the electoral college will reconsider the will of the people.

Misinformation to the maximum.

And for the replies to come about the popular vote?
Well let us just remain polite and categorize that as misinformation. Surely they know the laws of the land regarding how elections are won....OR NOT!

You are clueless on so many levels.

This thread has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with hacking of votes nor the Electoral College. It is not the least bit relevant.

Nobody on this thread, nor to my knowledge feels any doubt about the results if the election.

It appears that many on here simply keep defending something not required to be defended, and it also appears that is simply another way to beat your chest.

Election is over, Trump won...never been doubted, never been questioned. How many ways do you want itbsaid.

You people have to understand. It is time to govern now...time to go to work.

This thread was and is about the hacking of the DNC.

Your alluding to the electoral college makes no sense.

I did not say that I am opposed to an investigation. I am opposed to a congressional witch hunt. Every time we are hacked, we investigate. And we investigate thoroughly. We have organizations for that kind of thing. People that get paid to do that kind of stuff. It is really amateurish for a foreign gov to get caught hacking us. And we do NOT let them know when we do find out that they hacked us. It's called "secrets." Something that Hillary does not understand. It is almost impossible for foreign agents to hack into our secured systems. We change the encryption key daily. So, even if they got our stuff, it would be nothing but garbage. Another reason that Hillary should never have put classified on the Internet. A felony, by the way.

First, I am so sick of all the posts about Hillary Clinton. How long does she get your undivided attention, instead of our countries business.

I certainly want no "witch hunt" but hacking of our political parties and leaking them during an election cycle needs to be addressed.

It is that simple for me. Don't care what Party was hacked or damaged...I just do not want any government indulging in this kind of stuff.

Significant difference spying and attempting to assert control over internal functions

I could care who the candidates were, or what party. I am an American first and foremost.

It just causes me discomfort to know that folks who adopted a slogan of "make America great again" would be opposed to investigating and fighting back on an attack on America, or actually using sites friendly to Russia to make their case.

Sorry..it just does not make sense.

Please forgive me but your own words describe how you feel and hence who you are and how you think. I can't change that fact. You seem angry. This anger has led you to overstate your positions and to transpose onto me those labels that are false

I mock no one. I have worked to save face. I have admitted when I was in error or mistaken many times in the past. I've said in the past that no one should take issues to heart. Once I leave TOTV I think upon no more. Its an opportunity to pass time share thoughts learn about what is happening in TV.

Your comments sadden me because I would never intentionally hurt anyone. If I have left you with that impression my apologies. I am not that man

Personal Best Regards:

First, I accept your apology.

I notice that you take no responsibility for your plagiarism or apology for that.

I AM angry. You don't care why, but I am angry because I AM a conservative Republican, and proud of it. Posters who have moved to the extreme conspiratorial place, and reflect that on this forum by IGNORING issues and concentrating on hating the media, the President, using the far right websites as basis for views. Favoring a country like Russia over the USA (only way to understand the fascination wth the pro Russian websites quoted and cited, and hate for any media that does not come from the "leader", no matter his record on truth), refusal to accept the lying if their leader but to demean our own USA press as he requests.

I AM angry because this is NOT being a conservative, or a Republican. The anger toward anyone who disagrees is not being a Republican or conservative. My version of the Republican Party investigates, RESPECTS, and is averse to hating anyone because of skin color, religion or ancestry. They are not the enemy of this country.

Perhaps I am foolish, but the acceptance of Donald Trump and the BLIND acceptance of his words trouble me and yes, make me angry. I believe in morals, ethics and truth. I refuse to accept an acceptance of a man, or website that supports a regime who KILLS journalists or political enemies, who outwardly wants to destroy a united defense with other countries (no matter who pays) and who is a menace to his neighbors. When I hear folks like you denegrate our free press and embrace those who support any regimes like Russia, I do get mad.

I get angry when I hear people support what they know as lying. I get angry at mass groups of people cheering and chanting hateful things (perhaps my study of history is at fault) instead of cheering hopeful facts.

I also, as you, get angry at a non working congress. However, I disagree with cutting off the media and putting my total trust in one single man with a record of cheating and lying that is undeniable.

I get angry at many liberal ideas, but I get angry at people who call them names with no basis to dissuade their position on the issue in question.

I am proud to be a conservative Republican, and submit that those who, on this forum, who preach hate for the media, groups of people without looking at both sides of any issue are not conservative Republicans, but anti a lot of things.

Your posts, as with others do never address issues but more often, address your hate for somebody..your displeasure.with somebody but never addressing the issue.

I get mocked by posters who feel the incoming President is almighty when it comes to economics, but yet to hear anyone come on here and explain HOW it will happen without an exploding national debt. These same posters get angry because they feel black voters blindly accepted a black man....yet accept a white businessman because he is a white businessman, because he certainly has offered no factual ways.

I was one of the most vocal anti Obama posters in this board going back to 2008, and never said a kind word about the Clinton's (as BUCCO). I changed my user name because of insulting and personal PM's from those on the left. I complained both to the admin and online about the actions of those on the left.

I AM angry because now I find myself in the position of agreeing with many of those I opposed, NOT on policy but on concern for the blind trust placed in the hands of an immoral, immature man.

I AM angry because I see people like you using hate for media, hate for certain people to in someway support this person without question and totally blind, then brace it with things generated by extreme pro Russian websites. I see the enlarged base of white supremacists growing in their vocal support for this man without any question from you or others on here.

So I admit to anger. I have read your posts for many years, and my memory is agreeing much more than not, but it appears this extreme move to the far right has moved you.

I DO NOT support ANY of those positions. They are non American, hate based positions and I totally reject them. I reject blind loyalty to ANY man, especially a man who has a history like Trump.

I have voted both ways and I disliked how both parties has slipped to the outer edges of ultra conservative and ultra liberal.

I have to support the separation of Church and State although I am a Christian, A Catholic. I don't want something I don't believe taught in Public Schools and others don't want what I believe taught in Public Schools. I have never had an abortion but have used Birth Control and carefully planned the children we have. I think Roe Vs. Wade should remain in place and people act in such a way that they are not ever in a place to not want a pregnancy.

I think that Donald Trump was voted in not because he was well liked, but because the political system was so much disliked and of the candidates he was a better choice, although he is a poor communicator and often inappropriate and certainly not diplomatic.

I am pleased to see that he has not taken any days off and has looked to "hire" people who seem capable and by that, able to adapt to new situations and processes and are intelligent.

That is a total, complete and outrageous lie.

The times you've used a broad brush to denigrate Democrats (or even anyone to the left of your extremist right position) and anyone that didn't vote for Chump...are innumerable. :oops:

Trying to hide behind "Dear Guest" and "Personal Best Regards"...doesn't fool anyone with even a modicum of intelligence. :wave:

Sounds like we have a pi$$ed off school teach here lecturing on every post by measuring ONLY against their own opinion.

And it doesn't seem to matter whether accurate or correct!

CNM is attempting to convince us that she is hurt. She does not like it when someone calls her out for attacking others. She feels that only she has the right to attack, and expect no retaliation.

Hey CNM.............pull my finger........:a20:

Have you ever stopped to think that you are spending much of your time on here, complaining about how others post? This is an open and unregulated forum, so get over it. If you don't wish to participate, there are other websites out there in the vast Internet that might be more suitable to your requirements.

I'm not really sorry that you do not like my type of conservative. Some folks just won't cooperate with your view or respect your stance on issues. Live with it. If you wish to claim to be a conservative and defend Hillary, that is up to you. Not everyone is going to find that credible. Some will question your view. Live with it.