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N44125 12-19-2016 08:33 AM

Running Flea Market out of TV Garage
 
I notice that on the TV Classified postings, there are sellers with 15-20 items...every day...different items. Does anyone live next to one of these sellers? Is there a lot of traffic? Are we allowed to run a business out of our garage?

Just curious....

N44125 12-19-2016 09:42 AM

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NotGolfer 12-19-2016 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by N44125 (Post 1335642)
I notice that on the TV Classified postings, there are sellers with 15-20 items...every day...different items. Does anyone live next to one of these sellers? Is there a lot of traffic? Are we allowed to run a business out of our garage?

Just curious....

I've noticed those postings as well and wondered why they don't just put ALL of the items in one posting in the classifieds.

In answer to your question re: running a business out of a house (or garage) here in T.V.---NO!!! We aren't to do that...we all have signed agreements with our paperwork when we closed on our homes here. IF someone is doing that then, eventually they will be reported (or should be).

villagetinker 12-19-2016 01:28 PM

This maybe some of the local consignment shops.

fred53 12-19-2016 01:45 PM

Is there a reason you don't check with the Villages Community Development District for this information? It seems you would get the plain truth in lieu of word of mouth.

Down Sized 12-19-2016 03:01 PM

The Prof has been doing this for at least five years

SALYBOW 12-19-2016 04:56 PM

To answer your questions: NO, I don't know, and NO

Mleeja 12-19-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by N44125 (Post 1335642)
I notice that on the TV Classified postings, there are sellers with 15-20 items...every day...different items. Does anyone live next to one of these sellers? Is there a lot of traffic? Are we allowed to run a business out of our garage?

Just curious....

I don't know about running a flea market in a garage, but visit the Spanih Springs Post Office on any day and you can see what looks like people running eBay businesses from thier house. When they pull up in a golf cart full of packages I bet they are residents and not Santa. :22yikes:

nkrifats 12-19-2016 07:32 PM

Something wrong with that? They are going to the post office?

Bogie Shooter 12-19-2016 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1335941)
I don't know about running a flea market in a garage, but visit the Spanih Springs Post Office on any day and you can see what looks like people running eBay businesses from thier house. When they pull up in a golf cart full of packages I bet they are residents and not Santa. :22yikes:

How does this effect their neighbors??

VillagerNut 12-19-2016 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1335941)
I don't know about running a flea market in a garage, but visit the Spanih Springs Post Office on any day and you can see what looks like people running eBay businesses from thier house. When they pull up in a golf cart full of packages I bet they are residents and not Santa. :22yikes:

There is nothing illegal about running an eBay business out of your home. You can actually have a business out of your home as long as it doesn't have traffic coming to the home.

Barefoot 12-20-2016 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by N44125 (Post 1335642)
I notice that on the TV Classified postings, there are sellers with 15-20 items...every day...different items. Does anyone live next to one of these sellers? Is there a lot of traffic? Are we allowed to run a business out of our garage?

Short answer - Not allowed.

Longer answer -

I also notice people advertising items several times a day. Obviously a buy and sell operation.
I assume there would be traffic to the home as people would be visiting the garage to examine inventory.
If that's the case, I would think a neighbor would have reported them already.
Or perhaps it really is Florida's Friendliest Home Town. :D

Bogie Shooter 12-20-2016 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1336006)
Short answer - Not allowed.

Longer answer -

I also notice people advertising items several times a day. Obviously a buy and sell operation.
I assume there would be traffic to the home as people would be visiting the garage to examine inventory.
If that's the case, I would think a neighbor would have reported them already.
Or perhaps it really is Florida's Friendliest Home Town. :D

Nothing to do with "Florida's Friendliest home town, it's in the deed restrictions.

RichardWalker 12-20-2016 08:20 AM

If someone is visiting the P.O. so what. Selling used items on eBay commonly used in a person's home usually sell for less than they cost. Nothing wrong with that and it's hardly a business. It's a loss, not a profit.

Mleeja 12-20-2016 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RichardWalker (Post 1336068)
If someone is visiting the P.O. so what. Selling used items on eBay commonly used in a person's home usually sell for less than they cost. Nothing wrong with that and it's hardly a business. It's a loss, not a profit.

Selling an excess item on eBay or through TOTV is one thing. We have all done this. Operating an EBay business is quite different. I know someone, not in TV, that makes a nice profit selling items on eBay. He will shop thrift stores and garage sales to pick up items for resale. His garage is his warehouse. I am sure he is not the only person to figure this out and there are folks here doing the same thing.

The question is can you run a business out of your home. I believe the answer is "no". You signed an agreement stating you would not do this when you purchased your home. May be splitting hairs here, but a business is a business regardless if it is posting items for sale on the TOTV classifieds or on eBay.

Barefoot 12-20-2016 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1336055)
Nothing to do with "Florida's Friendliest home town, it's in the deed restrictions.

Bogie, I was speaking with "tongue in cheek", because that expression is so overused.
I agree, it's in our deed restrictions.

Bogie Shooter 12-20-2016 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1336122)
Selling an excess item on eBay or through TOTV is one thing. We have all done this. Operating an EBay business is quite different. I know someone, not in TV, that makes a nice profit selling items on eBay. He will shop thrift stores and garage sales to pick up items for resale. His garage is his warehouse. I am sure he is not the only person to figure this out and there are folks here doing the same thing.

The question is can you run a business out of your home. I believe the answer is "no". You signed an agreement stating you would not do this when you purchased your home. May be splitting hairs here, but a business is a business regardless if it is posting items for sale on the TOTV classifieds or on eBay.

Running a barbershop in your garage is a business, storing items to sell on eBay is not.

Mleeja 12-20-2016 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1336136)
Running a barbershop in your garage is a business, storing items to sell on eBay is not.

I am sure the IRS would disagree. Someone explain the difference between running a business where you are selling your items through TOTV versus eBay? Same type of business, just a different marketing approach. Still a business....

Jima64 12-20-2016 04:15 PM

limits
 
I believe most counties have a limit of how many garage, flea type of sales you can hold on your property. Don't think storing for online sales violates that. What if the offender removes the ads from local boards and then you would not know for sure what they were doing. Seems that there is a dislike of crowding the boards with sale items.

VillagerNut 12-20-2016 06:33 PM

Business in home
 
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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1336179)
I am sure the IRS would disagree. Someone explain the difference between running a business where you are selling your items through TOTV versus eBay? Same type of business, just a different marketing approach. Still a business....

Yes you are correct the IRS would consider that a business. It has nothing to do with a business or not in your home when it comes to our deed restrictions. It has to do with traffic coming to your house because the customers are coming to the house to buy or sell or get a service. So an eBay service is allowed but having multiple customers come to your house to look at items for sale may be a problem. But once again it's complaint driven by whoever wants to turn it in.

rubicon 12-21-2016 05:23 AM

don't have a dog in this fight but it would be nice..............

Please someone cite the authority as to what/who can define a business prohibited by deed restrictions to operate vis a vis those businesses allowed. And then please cite the authority and location thereof for reporting violations

Mleeja 12-21-2016 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1336361)
don't have a dog in this fight but it would be nice..............

Please someone cite the authority as to what/who can define a business prohibited by deed restrictions to operate vis a vis those businesses allowed. And then please cite the authority and location thereof for reporting violations

Nor do I... However I think I can sum the discussion up, with my apologies to the Traveling Wilburys, "it was on this site I was taught, that in The Villages anything is legal as long as you don't get caught"

Jetakai 12-21-2016 06:48 PM

If I may ask a question? What about people who are writer's or some other type of artist? I am looking at retiring in a few years (6 yrs 4 mo) and am really interested in The Villages, but would hate to be looking over my shoulder to see if my neighbors were turning me in.:cold: ~Alaska

Mleeja 12-21-2016 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetakai (Post 1336636)
If I may ask a question? What about people who are writer's or some other type of artist? I am looking at retiring in a few years (6 yrs 4 mo) and am really interested in The Villages, but would hate to be looking over my shoulder to see if my neighbors were turning me in.:cold: ~Alaska

I think the concern is more about traffic, trash, etc. I know at least two folks that operate a professional business from thier homes. Don't let the issues, comments you might see on this site be a major factor in evaluating The Villages. It is MUCH better!!

ColdNoMore 12-21-2016 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by VillagerNut (Post 1336294)
Yes you are correct the IRS would consider that a business. It has nothing to do with a business or not in your home when it comes to our deed restrictions. It has to do with traffic coming to your house because the customers are coming to the house to buy or sell or get a service. So an eBay service is allowed but having multiple customers come to your house to look at items for sale may be a problem. But once again it's complaint driven by whoever wants to turn it in.

That's the way I see it.

I'm sure there are more than a few Villagers who are Independent Contractors of one sort or another, who also have a business license, telecommute and are in essence "operating a business from their home."

As long as there aren't cars lined up all of the time and loading goods from the garage...why would anyone care?

And even if they did, what if someone had 5 or 6 friends a day come to visit them in their cars...would someone have an issue with that too? :ohdear:

Bogie Shooter 12-21-2016 08:35 PM

Does the "problem" being debated even exist? I thought not.

Nucky 12-21-2016 10:29 PM

I don't shop or sell on Ebay. So I've read lately that the average income per home in TV is $95k. Maybe these people are trying to supplement their income because they are not as fortunate as some others. Perhaps it would be better that they don't make a couple extra dollars and stop maintaining the property and then you can have a new issue to nit pick on. I did notice that the original post was a series of questions designed to twist someone's testicles. Just fantastic.

Buckeyephan 12-22-2016 06:31 AM

Is there a way to block posts by a particular person? My "new posts" are full of things a certain man has for sale and I don't care to read them. Other items for sale are of some interest but not the ones he is selling. Thanks.

buzzy 12-23-2016 08:04 PM

Putting someone on the ignore list will prevent you from seeing the content of their posts, but not the title. So, you will still see the title in new posts.

mulligan 12-24-2016 07:17 AM

It still amazes me how many people do not read the deed restrictions they agreed to live with. If you actually get the hint and read them, you will see the restriction on home businesses clearly stated.

asianthree 12-24-2016 12:18 PM

I need to stop telling Alexa to bring me something in those cute smile boxes, before someone complains the UPS truck stops at my house to much:faint:

jagdl 12-26-2016 03:06 PM

It amazes me that there are no posts of anyone having a neighbor causing noise, traffic, or any type of disturbance This whole discussion is what if, sitting at the post office and monitoring what other people put in the mail, looking on the classifieds and being disturbed that there are things there for sale. Get a hobby that is not destructive. Buyers like sellers, the post office thrives when we mail. I can see no harm yet there are those who really working hard to create a problem.

HeyGeorge 12-26-2016 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1335703)
I've noticed those postings as well and wondered why they don't just put ALL of the items in one posting in the classifieds.

In answer to your question re: running a business out of a house (or garage) here in T.V.---NO!!! We aren't to do that...we all have signed agreements with our paperwork when we closed on our homes here. IF someone is doing that then, eventually they will be reported (or should be).

You CAN run a business from your home in The Villages. You can't have clients coming to you home regularly.


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