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Taltarzac725 12-20-2016 09:52 AM

Your new First Family in Action.
 
Donald Trump's sons are asking for $1 million in exchange for access to the president-elect

All about the $$$$$$$.

janmcn 12-20-2016 10:02 AM

Melania Trump Sues Tabloid For $150 Million Over 'Escort Service' Report | The Huffington Post


Melania Trump is suing a tabloid for $150 million for a now retracted story that she once worked as an escort.

The lawyer in this case is the same one involved in the Hulk Hogan case, which put Gawker out of business.

Rockyrd 12-20-2016 10:14 AM

Just the beginning as you say....FOR SURE

"A new Texas nonprofit led by Donald Trump’s grown sons is offering access to the freshly-minted president during inauguration weekend — all in exchange for million-dollar donations to unnamed “conservation” charities, according to interviews and documents reviewed by the Center for Public Integrity.

And the donors’ identities may never be known.

Prospective million-dollar donors to the “Opening Day 2017” event — slated for Jan. 21, the day after inauguration, at Washington, D.C.’s Walter E. Washington Convention Center — receive a “private reception and photo opportunity for 16 guests with President Donald J. Trump,” a “multi-day hunting and/or fishing excursion for 4 guests with Donald Trump, Jr. and/or Eric Trump, and team,” as well as tickets to other events and “autographed guitars by an Opening Day 2017 performer.”


Donald Trump's sons behind nonprofit selling access to president-elect | Center for Public Integrity

BUT we are trust this man and family. Do you all recall the PHONEY contributions early in the campaign, some of which to this day have gotten nothing.

This is the man who says to all americans that he will conduct foreign policy with Russia, Turkey, Iran and only think of America while he totally REFUSES to tell us how much he is indebted to those very same countries.

This from the same link.

"“This is problematic on so many levels,” said Larry Noble, the general counsel of the Campaign Legal Center, a nonpartisan campaign reform organization. “This is Donald Trump and the Trump family using a brand new organization to raise $1 million contributions for a vague goal of giving money to conservation
charities, which seems a way of basically just selling influence and selling the ability to meet with the president.”


"The family canceled an auction for coffee with Trump’s daughter Ivanka Trump last week after ethics experts said it was ethically questionable, according to the New York Times. The proceeds of the auction would have gone to the Eric Trump Foundation, an existing nonprofit whose mission is to support a children’s hospital."

Should not his mind be on what he is going to do for our country.

This morning he tweeted how Bill Clinton called him and of course put his own little twist on that....does not matter who is right ...WHY IS HE TWEETING ABOUT IT.

His supporters say he will not agree that Russia hacked us because it will look bad for HIM.

He is still tweeting about Vanity Fair giving a bad revies.

Buffalo Jim 12-20-2016 11:55 AM

No matter what they do they will never ever be able to even approach the Clinton`s when it comes to selling access .

debbieingigharbor 12-20-2016 12:12 PM

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No matter what they do they will never ever be able to even approach the Clinton`s when it comes to selling access .

So selling access was ok with you with Clinton? That's why it's ok with Trump?

Taltarzac725 12-20-2016 01:03 PM

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So selling access was ok with you with Clinton? That's why it's ok with Trump?

The Clinton situation was quite different from that of Donald Trump and his family. Do some research.

Buffalo Jim 12-20-2016 01:16 PM

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So selling access was ok with you with Clinton? That's why it's ok with Trump?

Such a juvenile retort . Equal to the ever popular " when did you stop beating your wife " as far as intellect goes .

Rockyrd 12-20-2016 01:32 PM

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So selling access was ok with you with Clinton? That's why it's ok with Trump?

These kind of posts, which seem to be your norm, simply manifest your total lack of any knowledge.

Disagree with people...that is fine but do it based on reality and not your created world

debbieingigharbor 12-20-2016 01:48 PM

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These kind of posts, which seem to be your norm, simply manifest your total lack of any knowledge.

Disagree with people...that is fine but do it based on reality and not your created world


Simply manifest you total lack of any knowledge?

My point was obvious. You are a hypocrite if you have a different standard for Trump than you do for Clinton. I have yet to hear any Trumpster say yes, both are bad.

debbieingigharbor 12-20-2016 01:51 PM

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Such a juvenile retort . Equal to the ever popular " when did you stop beating your wife " as far as intellect goes .

A juvenile retort is when someone points out Trump is selling influence and rather than discuss the issue they discuss the Clinton's. It's akin to "I know you are but what am I? Now that's juvenile.

I'll ask again; does selling influence by Trump offend you or only if the Clinton's do it? Man up and answer the question.

Rockyrd 12-20-2016 01:53 PM

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Simply manifest you total lack of any knowledge?

My point was obvious. You are a hypocrite if you have a different standard for Trump than you do for Clinton. I have yet to hear any Trumpster say yes, both are bad.

That is a lie.

I and others have said exactly that many times.

Difference is your reality was the election.

The election is OVER...DONE. Clinton is gone.

Never has anyone, including the Clinton's been so open to These kinds of things. NEVER.

Forget Clinton. Donald Trump is President in a few days. He has, and continues to, thumb his nose at you and all of us.

As he said..."he will still be rich"

Move on...Clinton is not an issue any longer

billethkid 12-20-2016 02:29 PM

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That is a lie.

I and others have said exactly that many times.

Difference is your reality was the election.

The election is OVER...DONE. Clinton is gone.

Never has anyone, including the Clinton's been so open to These kinds of things. NEVER.

Forget Clinton. Donald Trump is President in a few days. He has, and continues to, thumb his nose at you and all of us.

As he said..."he will still be rich"

Move on...Clinton is not an issue any longer

Ditto!

rubicon 12-20-2016 02:50 PM

OMG he hasn't even been sworn in yet. A liberal scorned.......

Personal Best Regards:

Rockyrd 12-20-2016 03:31 PM

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OMG he hasn't even been sworn in yet. A liberal scorned.......

Personal Best Regards:

No he has not, and obviously you do not read posts that you do not like.

I along with others note he is not President as of yet and most conversations have been about what he is doing in the mean time and as much as you seem to keep avoiding it....his total and complete lack of transparency...you seem ok with our President in charge of foreign affairs being indebted for millions to Russia, Turkey and so many more, some of which are or support terrorists states.

How do I know that ? Good question. Based on his own families comments, investigative reports it surely paints that pic but you are right....WE DO NOT KNOW if our President will be thinking HIS business or OUR business.

And of course, as he backs down on every single pledge he has made to his followers during the campaign, I think it fair as to what might happen. One scenario is that he is just the front man for whatever congress wishes.....do not know but I think wondering what he actually stands for is fair based on his history of lying and being unfaithful to not only his wives but his idealogy.

janmcn 12-20-2016 05:19 PM

Insiders: Trump Team Dangled Ambassadorships to Lure A-List Inauguration Singers (Exclusive)


Who will ever forget Beyoncé's beautiful voice as she sang the Star Spangled Banner at Obama's 2012 inauguration? This was before Barack and Michelle danced the night away at seven inaugural balls.

The Trump Inaugural Committee is so hard up for A-listers to entertain that they have offered two NY talent scouts ambassadorships if they can book any. Yes you read that correctly - ambassadorships.

To add further insult to injury, the fat one and his lovely wife will only attend two inaugural balls.

rubicon 12-21-2016 05:33 AM

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No he has not, and obviously you do not read posts that you do not like.

I along with others note he is not President as of yet and most conversations have been about what he is doing in the mean time and as much as you seem to keep avoiding it....his total and complete lack of transparency...you seem ok with our President in charge of foreign affairs being indebted for millions to Russia, Turkey and so many more, some of which are or support terrorists states.

How do I know that ? Good question. Based on his own families comments, investigative reports it surely paints that pic but you are right....WE DO NOT KNOW if our President will be thinking HIS business or OUR business.

And of course, as he backs down on every single pledge he has made to his followers during the campaign, I think it fair as to what might happen. One scenario is that he is just the front man for whatever congress wishes.....do not know but I think wondering what he actually stands for is fair based on his history of lying and being unfaithful to not only his wives but his idealogy.

Dear Guest:

Again all we are experiencing from the press , party, etc is the effects of progressives scorned. I have prepared myself for the continuing prattle of false and negative claims made from every corner of this nation and from underneath every rock.

rock on

Personal Best Regards:

rubicon 12-21-2016 05:37 AM

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Insiders: Trump Team Dangled Ambassadorships to Lure A-List Inauguration Singers (Exclusive)


Who will ever forget Beyoncé's beautiful voice as she sang the Star Spangled Banner at Obama's 2012 inauguration? This was before Barack and Michelle danced the night away at seven inaugural balls.

The Trump Inaugural Committee is so hard up for A-listers to entertain that they have offered two NY talent scouts ambassadorships if they can book any. Yes you read that correctly - ambassadorships.

To add further insult to injury, the fat one and his lovely wife will only attend two inaugural balls.

Dear guest:

Forgive me but I have little respect for entertainers that show a disdain for this nation and this nation's police. But then look at what president elevated them to the Washington DC spotlight
This entertainment couple may be royalty in your view but I seriously doubt that is the majority opinion in this nation

Personal Best Regards:

Abby10 12-21-2016 06:18 AM

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Insiders: Trump Team Dangled Ambassadorships to Lure A-List Inauguration Singers (Exclusive)


Who will ever forget Beyoncé's beautiful voice as she sang the Star Spangled Banner at Obama's 2012 inauguration? This was before Barack and Michelle danced the night away at seven inaugural balls.

The Trump Inaugural Committee is so hard up for A-listers to entertain that they have offered two NY talent scouts ambassadorships if they can book any. Yes you read that correctly - ambassadorships.

To add further insult to injury, the fat one and his lovely wife will only attend two inaugural balls.

Yep, the Obamas always enjoyed spending other people's money.

Don Baldwin 12-21-2016 06:22 AM

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Yep, the Obamas always enjoyed spending other people's money.

ALL politicians enjoy spending other peoples money.

MDLNB 12-21-2016 07:18 AM

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ALL politicians enjoy spending other peoples money.

Perhaps, but this one is not taking a salary, so that's to his credit. But, I am sure that the left will have something to say negative about it.

Trump has selected an outstanding group of professionals for his advisor positions. Can't wait to see them in action. Regardless of what one thinks of Trump, he has formed a great team.

debbieingigharbor 12-21-2016 07:29 AM

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Perhaps, but this one is not taking a salary, so that's to his credit. But, I am sure that the left will have something to say negative about it.

Trump has selected an outstanding group of professionals for his advisor positions. Can't wait to see them in action. Regardless of what one thinks of Trump, he has formed a great team.

The Presidential salary is nothing compared to all the millions/billions he and his kids can make by using the White House to promote his businesses.

MDLNB 12-21-2016 08:17 AM

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The Presidential salary is nothing compared to all the millions/billions he and his kids can make by using the White House to promote his businesses.



Yes, I am sure that this is his motive for taking a hard job, living in below his standard of housing, and dealing with petulant liberals that are afraid that he is going to take their gov subsidies away. And no other politicians have ever made money from their positions, right? Explain to me why you think that Trump's motive to be president is to make money. I'm sure that in your petulant world of losing, you can come up with some fantasy plot. Perhaps he can go on a speaking binge like the Clintons and make millions for hooking up foreigners with audiences with the Secstate?

I think that in your anger at losing, you must think the worst possible scenario in order to salvage some form of dignity at your humiliation. Why don't you go ask "mike?" Oops, I forgot that you had dropped the Mike.

janmcn 12-21-2016 12:36 PM

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Dear guest:

Forgive me but I have little respect for entertainers that show a disdain for this nation and this nation's police. But then look at what president elevated them to the Washington DC spotlight
This entertainment couple may be royalty in your view but I seriously doubt that is the majority opinion in this nation

Personal Best Regards:



Not to worry, fingers crossed, God willing, Duck Dynasty will be appearing somewhere during the inauguration.

AJ32162 12-21-2016 12:47 PM

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Yes, I am sure that this is his motive for taking a hard job, living in below his standard of housing, and dealing with petulant liberals that are afraid that he is going to take their gov subsidies away. And no other politicians have ever made money from their positions, right? Explain to me why you think that Trump's motive to be president is to make money. I'm sure that in your petulant world of losing, you can come up with some fantasy plot. Perhaps he can go on a speaking binge like the Clintons and make millions for hooking up foreigners with audiences with the Secstate?

I think that in your anger at losing, you must think the worst possible scenario in order to salvage some form of dignity at your humiliation. Why don't you go ask "mike?" Oops, I forgot that you had dropped the Mike.

:thumbup:

Rockyrd 12-21-2016 12:47 PM

Another "mislead" by Trump on the campaign trail. I posted this information earlier and was sort of.."ridiculed" and immediately was vaulted into a discussion on Clinton and blacks, but it is now time to accept this administration, and I sure hope he makes happen what he promised but he keeps changing on you.

Believe me, HE is not going to lose money on this adventure game of his.

"Donald Trump has proposed a very detailed tax plan — but his statements on the campaign trail don't always match what his proposal would really do.

For instance, at a rally in Scranton, Pa., Trump promised to "massively cut taxes for the middle class, the forgotten people, the forgotten men and women of this country, who built our country." During a town hall meeting on NBC's Today show, he said he believes in raising taxes on the wealthy.

And at least half of Trump's supporters agreed with him on that, according to a pre-election survey by RAND Corp., a research group.

"Just before the election, after the last debate, 51 percent of them intending to vote for Trump supported increasing taxes on high-earning individuals," says Michael Pollard of RAND.

But Trump's plan does the opposite, says Lily Batchelder, a law professor at New York University and visiting fellow at the Tax Policy Center.

"If you look at the most wealthy, the top 1 percent would get about half of the benefits of his tax cuts, and a millionaire, for example, would get an average tax cut of $317,000," she says."


What Is Donald Trump's Tax Plan? An Analysis Of Whom It Will Benefit : NPR

Don Baldwin 12-21-2016 01:26 PM

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Another "mislead" by Trump on the campaign trail. I posted this information earlier and was sort of.."ridiculed" and immediately was vaulted into a discussion on Clinton and blacks, but it is now time to accept this administration, and I sure hope he makes happen what he promised but he keeps changing on you.

Believe me, HE is not going to lose money on this adventure game of his.

"Donald Trump has proposed a very detailed tax plan — but his statements on the campaign trail don't always match what his proposal would really do.

For instance, at a rally in Scranton, Pa., Trump promised to "massively cut taxes for the middle class, the forgotten people, the forgotten men and women of this country, who built our country." During a town hall meeting on NBC's Today show, he said he believes in raising taxes on the wealthy.

And at least half of Trump's supporters agreed with him on that, according to a pre-election survey by RAND Corp., a research group.

"Just before the election, after the last debate, 51 percent of them intending to vote for Trump supported increasing taxes on high-earning individuals," says Michael Pollard of RAND.

But Trump's plan does the opposite, says Lily Batchelder, a law professor at New York University and visiting fellow at the Tax Policy Center.

"If you look at the most wealthy, the top 1 percent would get about half of the benefits of his tax cuts, and a millionaire, for example, would get an average tax cut of $317,000," she says."


What Is Donald Trump's Tax Plan? An Analysis Of Whom It Will Benefit : NPR

Be careful of who is doing the writing...

"From 2010 to 2015, Batchelder was on leave, working for President Obama’s administration and Congress. At the White House, she served as Deputy Director of the National Economic Council and Deputy Assistant to the President. There, she was responsible for tax and budget issues, including tax reform, retirement policy and low-income benefits."

She's "one of them"...a liberal.

Lily Batchelder - Biography | NYU School of Law

Rockyrd 12-21-2016 01:51 PM

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Be careful of who is doing the writing...

"From 2010 to 2015, Batchelder was on leave, working for President Obama’s administration and Congress. At the White House, she served as Deputy Director of the National Economic Council and Deputy Assistant to the President. There, she was responsible for tax and budget issues, including tax reform, retirement policy and low-income benefits."

She's "one of them"...a liberal.

Lily Batchelder - Biography | NYU School of Law

Good catch actually. I usually try to check backgrounds on authors and cited folks, and missed that one. Very valid point.

How about this or there are more...let's be clear. I do not believe any of this will come to fruition. My point was and will always be on almost everything he said and says is a lie.

But good catch by you..appreciate it...note the impact on national debt in this summary, and note that his income level is the big gainer.

"This paper analyzes presidential candidate Donald Trump’s revised tax proposal, which would significantly reduce marginal tax rates, increase standard deduction amounts, repeal personal exemptions, cap itemized deductions, and allow businesses to elect to expense new investment and not deduct interest expense.
His proposal would cut taxes at all income levels, although the largest benefits, in dollar and percentage terms, would go to the highest-income households. Federal revenues would fall by $6.2 trillion over the first decade before accounting for added interest costs. Including interest costs, the federal debt would rise by $7.2 trillion over the first decade and by $20.9 trillion by 2036."


An Analysis of Donald Trump's Revised Tax Plan | Tax Policy Center

So, the author you called out is absolutely correct and on target, but this might reinforce and add the national debt increase.

Again, I do not think this happens, but Trump plays with facts.

Thanks for, at least, staying close to the subject in replying. Never mind critique.

Rockyrd 12-21-2016 01:56 PM

By the way, as I have said many times...while I think Donald Trump is a miserable human being, as a Conservative I do root for some success.

I hope he can pull of the infrastructure spending, because if done right that can offset some of that huge increase in the national debt.

Don Baldwin 12-21-2016 02:40 PM

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By the way, as I have said many times...while I think Donald Trump is a miserable human being, as a Conservative I do root for some success.

I hope he can pull of the infrastructure spending, because if done right that can offset some of that huge increase in the national debt.

It won't offset the debt...but at least you get something for it. Better than ****ing it away in the inner cities.

Trump is one of them, part of the system. He'll borrow and spend like a mad man. We'll owe close to $30 trillion after his 1st term. That'll be close to $100,000 PER man, woman, and child.

Don Baldwin 12-21-2016 02:56 PM

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Good catch actually. I usually try to check backgrounds on authors and cited folks, and missed that one. Very valid point.

How about this or there are more...let's be clear. I do not believe any of this will come to fruition. My point was and will always be on almost everything he said and says is a lie.

But good catch by you..appreciate it...note the impact on national debt in this summary, and note that his income level is the big gainer.

"This paper analyzes presidential candidate Donald Trump’s revised tax proposal, which would significantly reduce marginal tax rates, increase standard deduction amounts, repeal personal exemptions, cap itemized deductions, and allow businesses to elect to expense new investment and not deduct interest expense.
His proposal would cut taxes at all income levels, although the largest benefits, in dollar and percentage terms, would go to the highest-income households. Federal revenues would fall by $6.2 trillion over the first decade before accounting for added interest costs. Including interest costs, the federal debt would rise by $7.2 trillion over the first decade and by $20.9 trillion by 2036."


An Analysis of Donald Trump's Revised Tax Plan | Tax Policy Center

So, the author you called out is absolutely correct and on target, but this might reinforce and add the national debt increase.

Again, I do not think this happens, but Trump plays with facts.

Thanks for, at least, staying close to the subject in replying. Never mind critique.

More liberals Rocky...

"A Letter from Sarah Rosen Wartell, President, on the Commitment to Greater Diversity and Inclusion at the Urban Institute

The Urban Institute strives to be a vibrant, creative community of skilled and committed people who bring to their work a whole range of different experiences. That means differences in race and ethnicity, in academic discipline and mode of inquiry, in faith and political perspective, in abilities and disabilities, in service, in gender identification and sexual orientation, and more. But, like many other research organizations, universities, businesses, and nonprofits, the Urban Institute has far to go in its journey toward full diversity and inclusion.

Our mission is to bring evidence to bear on challenges facing an increasingly diverse country, where inequities persist. To advance this mission, I believe we must attract and support diverse identities, experiences, talents, and thought processes within our institution. We must work harder to recruit and retain all the talented people who can provide insights and solutions for an increasingly diverse society. We must think intentionally about how we can learn from and speak to audiences that reflect the rich diversity of America’s communities. We must create safe spaces for hard but trusting conversations among colleagues about their own experiences within our community and how its norms and practices may affect different contributors differently. "

A Letter from Sarah Rosen Wartell, President, on the Commitment to Greater Diversity and Inclusion at the Urban Institute | Urban Institute

"At Brookings, diversity is defined as the characteristics and attributes that make each one of us unique. Diversity has many dimensions, including race, gender, and physical ability. Other dimensions may include, but are not limited to, ethnicity, national origin, nationality, religion, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender identification, and age. Even more broadly, diversity includes geographic location, work experience, family status, socio-economic class, and diversity of political thought."

Diversity and Inclusion | Brookings Institution

Just more liberal BS. As I said before...be careful WHO is doing the writing.

Diversity is the LAST thing truly intelligent "think tanks" would want. A differing opinion isn't worth a damn if it's wrong. Would you go to the special education class to look for people for your debate team? Then why would you want minorities in your "think tank"? Might as well let people bring in their pets...their ideas are about as clever. When an organization is so concerned with diversity I don't give them much credence.

Rockyrd 12-21-2016 03:24 PM

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More liberals Rocky...

"A Letter from Sarah Rosen Wartell, President, on the Commitment to Greater Diversity and Inclusion at the Urban Institute

The Urban Institute strives to be a vibrant, creative community of skilled and committed people who bring to their work a whole range of different experiences. That means differences in race and ethnicity, in academic discipline and mode of inquiry, in faith and political perspective, in abilities and disabilities, in service, in gender identification and sexual orientation, and more. But, like many other research organizations, universities, businesses, and nonprofits, the Urban Institute has far to go in its journey toward full diversity and inclusion.

Our mission is to bring evidence to bear on challenges facing an increasingly diverse country, where inequities persist. To advance this mission, I believe we must attract and support diverse identities, experiences, talents, and thought processes within our institution. We must work harder to recruit and retain all the talented people who can provide insights and solutions for an increasingly diverse society. We must think intentionally about how we can learn from and speak to audiences that reflect the rich diversity of America’s communities. We must create safe spaces for hard but trusting conversations among colleagues about their own experiences within our community and how its norms and practices may affect different contributors differently. "

A Letter from Sarah Rosen Wartell, President, on the Commitment to Greater Diversity and Inclusion at the Urban Institute | Urban Institute

"At Brookings, diversity is defined as the characteristics and attributes that make each one of us unique. Diversity has many dimensions, including race, gender, and physical ability. Other dimensions may include, but are not limited to, ethnicity, national origin, nationality, religion, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender identification, and age. Even more broadly, diversity includes geographic location, work experience, family status, socio-economic class, and diversity of political thought."

Diversity and Inclusion | Brookings Institution

Just more liberal BS. As I said before...be careful WHO is doing the writing.

Diversity is the LAST thing truly intelligent "think tanks" would want. A differing opinion isn't worth a damn if it's wrong. Would you go to the special education class to look for people for your debate team? Then why would you want minorities in your "think tank"? Might as well let people bring in their pets...their ideas are about as clever. When an organization is so concerned with diversity I don't give them much credence.


I am replying but not with a rebuttal of any kind. Reading your response, it is obvious that your beliefs are founded in skin color and not fundamental economics thus with respect I stand back.

I could show you various economic reports about how he gains from the tax reform he proposes more than anyone and its impact on the national debt, but you will reject them out of hand. You can obviously google and read the economist of your choice, but thinking it will not change anything in this conversation.

My point, as I said earlier was that he lied to his followers and how he and his family will gain more from these tax plans than anyone.

ALSO, as I said, I do not think these tax plans will see the light of day in any case. I do hope he pursues the infrastructure spending however.

Don Baldwin 12-22-2016 08:31 AM

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I am replying but not with a rebuttal of any kind. Reading your response, it is obvious that your beliefs are founded in skin color and not fundamental economics thus with respect I stand back.

I could show you various economic reports about how he gains from the tax reform he proposes more than anyone and its impact on the national debt, but you will reject them out of hand. You can obviously google and read the economist of your choice, but thinking it will not change anything in this conversation.

My point, as I said earlier was that he lied to his followers and how he and his family will gain more from these tax plans than anyone.

ALSO, as I said, I do not think these tax plans will see the light of day in any case. I do hope he pursues the infrastructure spending however.

Economics and "skin color" or more accurately...species...are very interrelated. White have successful, thriving economies...blacks do not...ever.

I Googled YOUR "economists", you posted them, I just checked them out. They're BOTH liberal and therefore biased. No liberal place will EVER blame the minorities themselves for anything. It's ALWAYS something/somebody else not giving them a chance. They'll NEVER say...it's them, they're just not as smart as we are.

As for Trump...I agree with you. He's a crooked as the rest of them. He'll create problems like the rest of them. I just disagree with the people who are "analyzing" his economic plans. They've ALL been liberals, every one you cited were all liberals...and therefore can't be trusted for honesty because their major tenet "equality" is a false lie.

It's like a church...if their main tenet is a false lie, why do you care what else they have to say?

Henryk 12-22-2016 10:20 AM

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Perhaps, but this one is not taking a salary, so that's to his credit. But, I am sure that the left will have something to say negative about it.

Trump has selected an outstanding group of professionals for his advisor positions. Can't wait to see them in action. Regardless of what one thinks of Trump, he has formed a great team.

Not taking a salary? He's a liar and this will prove to be yet another lie. Pathological liar. Simple.

Taltarzac725 12-22-2016 10:34 AM

Great team? What do billionaires know about running the government??

Abby10 12-22-2016 11:11 AM

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Great team? What do billionaires know about running the government??

No disrespect intended, but when I see posts like this I wonder how much real world experience a person such as this has had to make such a comment. Successful business people often have a lot of experience in leadership, negotiation, working within budgets, working with many different types of people, and so on. I think these are important qualities for a President. Many things can be learned, some of the above, not so much.

Don Baldwin 12-22-2016 12:12 PM

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Great team? What do billionaires know about running the government??

Billionaires already DO "run the government".

MDLNB 12-22-2016 01:49 PM

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I am replying but not with a rebuttal of any kind. Reading your response, it is obvious that your beliefs are founded in skin color and not fundamental economics thus with respect I stand back.

I could show you various economic reports about how he gains from the tax reform he proposes more than anyone and its impact on the national debt, but you will reject them out of hand. You can obviously google and read the economist of your choice, but thinking it will not change anything in this conversation.

My point, as I said earlier was that he lied to his followers and how he and his family will gain more from these tax plans than anyone.

ALSO, as I said, I do not think these tax plans will see the light of day in any case. I do hope he pursues the infrastructure spending however.

And how do you suppose we pay for this without cutting spending elsewhere or increasing taxes? Once you can find a solution for that, you will be the next billionaire.

Don Baldwin 12-22-2016 08:18 PM

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And how do you suppose we pay for this without cutting spending elsewhere or increasing taxes? Once you can find a solution for that, you will be the next billionaire.

They borrow it...it's why we owe $20 trillion.

They lower interest rates so they can make the interest payment.

Trump will borrow even more!

Rockyrd 12-22-2016 08:35 PM

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Posted by Guest
And how do you suppose we pay for this without cutting spending elsewhere or increasing taxes? Once you can find a solution for that, you will be the next billionaire.

Infrastructure spending done correctly is great for the economy. Building of railways, airports, etc will create millions of jobs.

I think I read one time, that long term the economy gets almost 2 bucks for every buck of infrastructure spending.

You hear a lot of talk about reducing regulations, etc.

Most if that talk is because the regulations make infrastructure spending difficult.

MDLNB 12-23-2016 10:01 AM

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Posted by Guest
Not taking a salary? He's a liar and this will prove to be yet another lie. Pathological liar. Simple.

You proved my point. Such a poor loser. Sorry, but there is no second place trophy for election losers. :eclipsee_gold_cup:


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