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rubicon 12-22-2016 06:07 AM

Dear Thoughtless Selfish Driver
 
At 8:35 AM yesterday I placed my left mechanical signal on looked back and proceeded to move from the diamond lane to the driving lane approaching the intersection of St Charles and Bailey Trail with the intent of proceeding to the left turning lane.

I had successfully executed this merger as my golf cart was completely in the driving lane when a driver accelerated going around my left and partially onto the oncoming lane for the expressed purpose of being in the front of my vehicle. This vehicle continued straight to the left turning lane to give you some sense of how far the driver went left to past me. The driver had both notice (mechanical turn signal) and opportunity (time)to hold back but chose to ignore both and I suspect because of impatience?

I do not know if this driver is a member of this forum but post here to provide notice to this driver and to alert all members of this situation because this seems to be too common an occurrence.

So with due diligence and dispatch I am searching for the driver of a champagne Lexus Florida plate # BJV V42. The purpose of my search is to ask you face to face why you believe that your need to save a fraction of a second of your time was worth the risk of human life and property?

I also want to ask if you view golf carts as some sort of non-human thing that offers you only annoyance and inconvenience?


fred53 12-22-2016 06:42 AM

Or perhaps it was an emergency. You wouldn't know so your rant might actually be misplaced. I do sympathize with you, but also understand that with this many elderly in one place things like this are unfortunately common place. I have had many instances where golf carts cut me off because the driver was either not looking, forgot they were the ones that had to merge or just plain turds(see 'entitled').

So it behooves one to consider the many other reasons for an action other than the one you cite.

golfing eagles 12-22-2016 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fred53 (Post 1336721)
Or perhaps it was an emergency. You wouldn't know so your rant might actually be misplaced. I do sympathize with you, but also understand that with this many elderly in one place things like this are unfortunately common place. I have had many instances where golf carts cut me off because the driver was either not looking, forgot they were the ones that had to merge or just plain turds(see 'entitled').

So it behooves one to consider the many other reasons for an action other than the one you cite.

I'm with Ruby on this one. The chances of this being an "emergency" are about 1/1000. The elderly tend to be overcautious if anything, this was a deliberate accelerate and pass move, which also eliminates not looking or merging error, since they intentionally moved left, even into oncoming lane. My vote is just plain turd. At least the vehicle description and plate # narrows this down from hundreds of turds to just one.

ColdNoMore 12-22-2016 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fred53 (Post 1336721)
Or perhaps it was an emergency. You wouldn't know so your rant might actually be misplaced. I do sympathize with you, but also understand that with this many elderly in one place things like this are unfortunately common place. I have had many instances where golf carts cut me off because the driver was either not looking, forgot they were the ones that had to merge or just plain turds(see 'entitled').

So it behooves one to consider the many other reasons for an action other than the one you cite.

Excellent points. :thumbup:

And no, I don't drive that color of Lexus. :D


In regards to those who truly are jerks though, I have quit waiting until the last minute to merge.

If there is an opening, even 100 yards (strong lob wedge ;) ) short of the end of the designated cart/bike lane...I will get over in the car lane.

I have found it to be a lot safer than waiting until the last minute.

golfing eagles 12-22-2016 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1336727)
Excellent points. :thumbup:

And no, I don't drive that color of Lexus. :D


In regards to those who truly are jerks though, I have quit waiting until the last minute to merge.

If there is an opening, even 100 yards (strong lob wedge ;) ) short of the end of the designated cart/bike lane...I will get over in the car lane.

I have found it to be a lot safer than waiting until the last minute.

I only get 95 yds from a strong lob wedge. But it is a little over 60 degrees, what wedge do you play????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

ColdNoMore 12-22-2016 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1336729)
I only get 95 yds from a strong lob wedge. But it is a little over 60 degrees, what wedge do you play????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

68 degree (bent from 64) Vokey. :D

golfing eagles 12-22-2016 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1336742)
68 degree Vokey. :D

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: 62 is the highest loft for Vokey; Mickelson's 64 is a custom job. I have a 90 degree lob wedge for the purpose of hitting myself in the head after a bad drive

ColdNoMore 12-22-2016 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1336743)
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: 62 is the highest loft for Vokey; Mickelson's 64 is a custom job.

Wrong. :D

Titleist Vokey SM4 Wedges: Editor Review | GolfWRX
Quote:


Vokey Spin Milled SM4 wedges offer a large variety of off-the-shelf lofts ranging from 46 to 64 degrees in two-degree increments, with as many as three different sole grinds for each model.

However, you're partially correct...Vokey quit making the 64 and now only offers up to a 62.



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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1336743)
I have a 90 degree lob wedge for the purpose of hitting myself in the head after a bad drive

All BS'ing aside, I have three 60 deg. wedges in my garage....and only have my new SM6 54 M grind in the bag.

I can't even hit my head with the 60's. :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

golfing eagles 12-22-2016 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1336754)
I can't even hit my head with the 60's. :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

Try opening the face, swing out to in, and lunge your head forward on the downswing:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

CFrance 12-22-2016 08:38 AM

this is the point where the moderator comes on and says, "The original post was about some jackwagon swerving around Rubi to get into the turning lane. Please stay on topic!"

ColdNoMore 12-22-2016 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1336767)
this is the point where the moderator comes on and says, "The original post was about some jackwagon swerving around Rubi to get into the turning lane. Please stay on topic!"

Sorry Ma'am. :o

CFrance 12-22-2016 08:52 AM

Just trying to be funny... early in the morning. (For me, anyway.)

ColdNoMore 12-22-2016 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1336771)
Just trying to be funny... early in the morning. (For me, anyway.)

:thumbup:

golfing eagles 12-22-2016 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1336767)
this is the point where the moderator comes on and says, "The original post was about some jackwagon swerving around Rubi to get into the turning lane. Please stay on topic!"

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1336771)
Just trying to be funny... early in the morning. (For me, anyway.)

Could be on topic---perhaps the "turd", as he approached Ruby's cart, saw an old 64 degree or new 62 degree Vokey wedge and swerved left to avoid damaging a perfectly good lob wedge. This would therefore be a very dedicated golfer who put equipment value above life and limb...... Nah, let's just stick with the turd theory:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

CFrance 12-22-2016 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1336777)
Could be on topic---perhaps the "turd", as he approached Ruby's cart, saw an old 64 degree or new 62 degree Vokey wedge and swerved left to avoid damaging a perfectly good lob wedge. This would therefore be a very dedicated golfer who put equipment value above life and limb...... Nah, let's just stick with the turd theory:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

That works for me!

Happinow 12-22-2016 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1336727)
Excellent points. :thumbup:

And no, I don't drive that color of Lexus. :D


In regards to those who truly are jerks though, I have quit waiting until the last minute to merge.

If there is an opening, even 100 yards (strong lob wedge ;) ) short of the end of the designated cart/bike lane...I will get over in the car lane.

I have found it to be a lot safer than waiting until the last minute.

I agree. I don't wait until the end of the merge lane to merge either....easpecially this time of year. It is more dangerous for a golf cart to be stopped at the end of a merge lane waiting to merge than to merge a bit early and keep the flow of traffic going.

Taltarzac725 12-22-2016 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1336709)
At 8:35 AM yesterday I placed my left mechanical signal on looked back and proceeded to move from the diamond lane to the driving lane approaching the intersection of St Charles and Bailey Trail with the intent of proceeding to the left turning lane.

I had successfully executed this merger as my golf cart was completely in the driving lane when a driver accelerated going around my left and partially onto the oncoming lane for the expressed purpose of being in the front of my vehicle. This vehicle continued straight to the left turning lane to give you some sense of how far the driver went left to past me. The driver had both notice (mechanical turn signal) and opportunity (time)to hold back but chose to ignore both and I suspect because of impatience?

I do not know if this driver is a member of this forum but post here to provide notice to this driver and to alert all members of this situation because this seems to be too common an occurrence.

So with due diligence and dispatch I am searching for the driver of a champagne Lexus Florida plate # BJV V42. The purpose of my search is to ask you face to face why you believe that your need to save a fraction of a second of your time was worth the risk of human life and property?

I also want to ask if you view golf carts as some sort of non-human thing that offers you only annoyance and inconvenience?


Did you get a look at the driver? Could be someone from out-of-town with a relative's car? Lost of visitors from many other places here now.

golfing eagles 12-22-2016 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1336794)
Did you get a look at the driver? Could be someone from out-of-town with a relative's car? Lost of visitors from many other places here now.

I wish I was there, Tal. Since I've memorized the faces of all 120,000 Villagers, it would be easy for me to spot a visitor:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

MrGolf 12-22-2016 10:02 AM

I am still trying to figure out how to hit a bent 68 degree lob wedge 100 yards. I have a couple of 64 degree wedges that I couldn't hit a hundred downhill down wind on an asphalt roadway.

Henryk 12-22-2016 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1336709)
At 8:35 AM yesterday I placed my left mechanical signal on looked back and proceeded to move from the diamond lane to the driving lane approaching the intersection of St Charles and Bailey Trail with the intent of proceeding to the left turning lane.

I had successfully executed this merger as my golf cart was completely in the driving lane when a driver accelerated going around my left and partially onto the oncoming lane for the expressed purpose of being in the front of my vehicle. This vehicle continued straight to the left turning lane to give you some sense of how far the driver went left to past me. The driver had both notice (mechanical turn signal) and opportunity (time)to hold back but chose to ignore both and I suspect because of impatience?

I do not know if this driver is a member of this forum but post here to provide notice to this driver and to alert all members of this situation because this seems to be too common an occurrence.

So with due diligence and dispatch I am searching for the driver of a champagne Lexus Florida plate # BJV V42. The purpose of my search is to ask you face to face why you believe that your need to save a fraction of a second of your time was worth the risk of human life and property?

I also want to ask if you view golf carts as some sort of non-human thing that offers you only annoyance and inconvenience?


What a jerk. Dangerous, too. I, for one, am delighted you got a plate number.

golfing eagles 12-22-2016 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MrGolf (Post 1336803)
I am still trying to figure out how to hit a bent 68 degree lob wedge 100 yards. I have a couple of 64 degree wedges that I couldn't hit a hundred downhill down wind on an asphalt roadway.

Not a problem, I once bladed one about 220 yds. Not a good result from 80 yds. out:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

ColdNoMore 12-22-2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MrGolf (Post 1336803)
I am still trying to figure out how to hit a bent 68 degree lob wedge 100 yards. I have a couple of 64 degree wedges that I couldn't hit a hundred downhill down wind on an asphalt roadway.

OK, I admit I might have been exaggerating a bit. :D

Given the state of things recently...I thought that was the new norm. :shrug:

I can really only get 97 yards from my 68 degree wedge. :1rotfl:

Taltarzac725 12-22-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1336796)
I wish I was there, Tal. Since I've memorized the faces of all 120,000 Villagers, it would be easy for me to spot a visitor:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I only have met maybe 360 or so of them in the 11.5 years we have been here. And most of these were people with dogs and I usually pay more attention the dogs than the people.

There were two lovely girls in a golf cart yesterday on Churchill Downs and Lynnhaven at the corner. They could not been older than 22 or so. Not hard to tell 22 from 72 year olds most of the time. Even in Hollywood.

This is from Wikipedia. Not sure if it is right. But there seems to be an awful lot more Villagers than when we moved here in late June of 2005.

Quote:

The Villages is a census-designated place in Sumter County, Florida, United States. It shares its name with a broader master-planned age-restricted community that spreads into portions of Lake and Marion counties. Wikipedia
Area: 5.56 mi²
Elevation: 75′
Population: 157,000 (2016)
Area code: 352
Neighborhoods: Cottages at Summerchase, Villa St. Simons, More

MrGolf 12-22-2016 12:10 PM

Ok so to end my story, Golfing Eagles and I, with a couple of bad arms and two goo ones between us have been practicing our knockdown shots into this heavy Central Fl breeze. Will let you know of our progress as we enter the new year.

ColdNoMore 12-22-2016 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGolf (Post 1336850)
Ok so to end my story, Golfing Eagles and I, with a couple of bad arms and two goo ones between us have been practicing our knockdown shots into this heavy Central Fl breeze. Will let you know of our progress as we enter the new year.

Ball off of back heel, hands well ahead of ball, short back-swing and follow through finish to mirror impact position.

Nuttin to it. :D

2BNTV 12-22-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1336709)
At 8:35 AM yesterday I placed my left mechanical signal on looked back and proceeded to move from the diamond lane to the driving lane approaching the intersection of St Charles and Bailey Trail with the intent of proceeding to the left turning lane.

I had successfully executed this merger as my golf cart was completely in the driving lane when a driver accelerated going around my left and partially onto the oncoming lane for the expressed purpose of being in the front of my vehicle. This vehicle continued straight to the left turning lane to give you some sense of how far the driver went left to past me. The driver had both notice (mechanical turn signal) and opportunity (time)to hold back but chose to ignore both and I suspect because of impatience?

I do not know if this driver is a member of this forum but post here to provide notice to this driver and to alert all members of this situation because this seems to be too common an occurrence.

So with due diligence and dispatch I am searching for the driver of a champagne Lexus Florida plate # BJV V42. The purpose of my search is to ask you face to face why you believe that your need to save a fraction of a second of your time was worth the risk of human life and property?

I also want to ask if you view golf carts as some sort of non-human thing that offers you only annoyance and inconvenience?


Rubicon:

Sorry this happened to you. This time of the year I try to be extra careful as there are more cars on the road.

I don't even try anymore to understand people who feel to need to be rude and in this case, dangerous. I have noticed there are some people who have anger issues.

Maybe you could report the license plate to the police to be on the lookout for this person, to see if there is a pattern?

Be careful out there!

BTW - He/she doesn't know or give a darn about you. It's all about them. Just ask them and they will tell you. :(

dbussone 12-22-2016 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1336796)
I wish I was there, Tal. Since I've memorized the faces of all 120,000 Villagers, it would be easy for me to spot a visitor:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:



You are 10,000 residents short. No wonder you missed the visitor.

Oops better get myself back on track before CFrance sees this.

rubicon 12-22-2016 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 1336793)
I agree. I don't wait until the end of the merge lane to merge either....easpecially this time of year. It is more dangerous for a golf cart to be stopped at the end of a merge lane waiting to merge than to merge a bit early and keep the flow of traffic going.

Happinow: that is my practice also and for the same reason. Well it worked well up until Monday. In this particular case it seems to have given the driver more incentive because he had more lead time in which to accelerate and more time to break at the light.

I am not prone to embellishments nor easily rattled. I mean I didn't say this driver almost killed me ..but it was a very close call.

I attempted to explain the circumstances of this event to eliminate some of the "well perhaps it was this or that"...but when a driver moves as far left and as fast as this one did there is little question left. I'm not angry at the driver but I really want to know why that fraction of a second was so important.

I shared my tale to remind members that this situation is common here so please proceed with care

golfing eagles 12-22-2016 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1336934)
You are 10,000 residents short. No wonder you missed the visitor.

Oops better get myself back on track before CFrance sees this.

I wasn't counting anyone in hospital administration:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But back on topic, just got home and watched at least 5 drivers go 270 (left turn) in a RB in the RIGHT (outside) lane. Sooner or later, they're going to get a surprise

Boudicca 12-22-2016 05:29 PM

Rubicon, I had a similar experience recently on Hillsboro. With no car traffic behind my cart I merged from the cart lane and was driving along in the merged road, when a large white truck roared up and around me into the oncoming traffic lane and continued on his way at a high rate of speed. The loud noise from the truck's faulty muffler and sudden appearance of the vehicle was very unnerving. I am a very careful cart driver and continually check my mirrors for oncoming rear traffic. That truck was too impatient to wait for me to merge right again. I was so unnerved I now drive a long way to accomplish my cart driving on dedicated paths. I will be safer and live longer (with the rare exception of run away vehicles)

spring_chicken 12-22-2016 05:32 PM

I still don't understand why people in golf carts believe that all they have to do is turn on their blinker, throw out their hand, and the whole world stops for them. You do NOT have the right of way and it is not the job of cars to slam on their brakes because you throw out your hand.

CFrance 12-22-2016 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1336934)
You are 10,000 residents short. No wonder you missed the visitor.

Oops better get myself back on track before CFrance sees this.

BUSTED!

But as long as we're off topic, how much does Harry weigh?

Fredster 12-22-2016 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1336953)
I still don't understand why people in golf carts believe that all they have to do is turn on their blinker, throw out their hand, and the whole world stops for them. You do NOT have the right of way and it is not the job of cars to slam on their brakes because you throw out your hand.

I agree with that, the other day I was driving my car and was nearly side by side on the left of a cart,
when all of a sudden the cart driver puts his left turn on and sticks out is arm signaling a left turn.
I really didn't have enough time to apply the brakes,
so I passed him, and then was treated to him hollering an expletive at me!
No one is perfect whether they are driving a car or cart, even though they might think otherwise!

dbussone 12-22-2016 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1336961)
BUSTED!

But as long as we're off topic, how much does Harry weigh?



15.9 pounds & he's all muscle

rubicon 12-22-2016 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1336953)
I still don't understand why people in golf carts believe that all they have to do is turn on their blinker, throw out their hand, and the whole world stops for them. You do NOT have the right of way and it is not the job of cars to slam on their brakes because you throw out your hand.

Au contraire: you might want to brush up on the "Rules of the Road

And to answer you specifically what I expect is that after I have made a proper look out, placed my turn signal on prior to my intended merger and completed my merger maneuver that no, I would not expect the whole world to stop, just the driver behind me . What is it you don't get about a driver intentionally accelerating and making a left pass around a cart in a childish and irresponsible manner?

By the way do you happen to drive a champagne Lexus Florida plate # BJV V42?

Polar Bear 12-22-2016 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1336953)
I still don't understand why people in golf carts believe that all they have to do is turn on their blinker, throw out their hand, and the whole world stops for them. You do NOT have the right of way and it is not the job of cars to slam on their brakes because you throw out your hand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1337021)
Au contraire: you might want to brush up on the "Rules of the Road"

And to answer you specifically what I expect is that after I have made a proper look out, placed my turn signal on prior to my intended merger and completed my merger maneuver that no, I would not expect the whole world to stop, just the driver behind me . What is it you don't get about a driver intentionally accelerating and making a left pass around a cart in a childish and irresponsible manner?...

Sorry, rubicon, but everything spring_chicken said is exactly right. Chicken knows the "Rules of the Road". You're the one who should brush up.

All the proper look outs, turn signals, hand signals, whatever else, do not eliminate the need for the left turner to identify an adequate gap. If there is not an adequate gap, that "driver behind me" is NOT obligated to stop for you. The gap is what matters, not just the fact that a car might be a short distance behind you.

Before you huff and puff at me, if the driver behind you is really "intentionally accelerating and making a left pass around a cart in a childish and irresponsible manner", then of course he is in the wrong. But that doesn't change the fact that spring_chicken was right...you do not automatically have the right-of-way just because you've signaled your intentions and a car may be a short distance behind you. There's where that little matter of there being a proper opening for your maneuver comes into play.

CFrance 12-22-2016 09:29 PM

There are two things to do if someone starts to make a left-hand turn in front of you... You can slam on the brakes and hope you don't rear-end him, or you can speed up and go around him if there is no oncoming car and you think the chances of hitting him are less by doing that. Outrun the danger, so to speak.

rubicon 12-23-2016 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1337030)
Sorry, rubicon, but everything spring_chicken said is exactly right. Chicken knows the "Rules of the Road". You're the one who should brush up.

All the proper look outs, turn signals, hand signals, whatever else, do not eliminate the need for the left turner to identify an adequate gap. If there is not an adequate gap, that "driver behind me" is NOT obligated to stop for you. The gap is what matters, not just the fact that a car might be a short distance behind you.

Before you huff and puff at me, if the driver behind you is really "intentionally accelerating and making a left pass around a cart in a childish and irresponsible manner", then of course he is in the wrong. But that doesn't change the fact that spring_chicken was right...you do not automatically have the right-of-way just because you've signaled your intentions and a car may be a short distance behind you. There's where that little matter of there being a proper opening for your maneuver comes into play.

Nay sayer, I was not making a left turn I was merging from the diamond lane , did so completely and the driver accelerated around me. Would you suggest that every golf cart utilizing a diamond lane and coming to its end such as at a stop light or village gate sit in the diamond lane until all of the traffic on said street has left. if so there is going to be a major bottleneck on all diamond lanes in TV. Again review the rules of the road and put your eyes down and notice the markings on diamond lanes they cry out for merging

I knew it would risk the rebuke and misjudgments of some posters its why I went to the trouble of detailing the event. In the long run its a non-event and was primarily to remind residents that there are some auto drivers here who simply do not understand that a driver of a golf cart is not a second class citizen and golf carts are defined as a vehicle as are bicycles and subjected to the same rules of the road as cars and the courtesies afforded thereof. Geezzz

Villageswimmer 12-23-2016 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1337030)
Sorry, rubicon, but everything spring_chicken said is exactly right. Chicken knows the "Rules of the Road". You're the one who should brush up.

All the proper look outs, turn signals, hand signals, whatever else, do not eliminate the need for the left turner to identify an adequate gap. If there is not an adequate gap, that "driver behind me" is NOT obligated to stop for you. The gap is what matters, not just the fact that a car might be a short distance behind you.

Before you huff and puff at me, if the driver behind you is really "intentionally accelerating and making a left pass around a cart in a childish and irresponsible manner", then of course he is in the wrong. But that doesn't change the fact that spring_chicken was right...you do not automatically have the right-of-way just because you've signaled your intentions and a car may be a short distance behind you. There's where that little matter of there being a proper opening for your maneuver comes into play.


Agree. I see this often where the cart driver seems distracted and suddenly remembers he wants to turn left and doesn't allow for a gap in traffic. When this happens, the cart driver needs to stop and wait for an opening. Common courtesy and safety.

rubicon 12-23-2016 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1336970)
I agree with that, the other day I was driving my car and was nearly side by side on the left of a cart,
when all of a sudden the cart driver puts his left turn on and sticks out is arm signaling a left turn.
I really didn't have enough time to apply the brakes,
so I passed him, and then was treated to him hollering an expletive at me!
No one is perfect whether they are driving a car or cart, even though they might think otherwise!

As you describe you are right. However the appreciable difference in my case is that I was completely in the driving lane


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