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Villagesperson 12-29-2016 01:26 PM

Question for Trump followers.
 
Why does Donald Trump, who says America first in everything, publicly object to any US action against Russia for what everyone except he, acknowledges Russia did in the USA election ? He actually says we should move on.

And why does he say he will overturn any sanctions put on Russia for hacking the USA blatantly and openly ?

Lastly, why does Trump want to lift any sanctions on Russia for their actions in Crimea ?

janmcn 12-29-2016 01:34 PM

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Posted by Guest
Why does Donald Trump, who says America first in everything, publicly object to any US action against Russia for what everyone except he, acknowledges Russia did in the USA election ? He actually says we should move on.

And why does he say he will overturn any sanctions put on Russia for hacking the USA blatantly and openly ?

Lastly, why does Trump want to lift any sanctions on Russia for their actions in Crimea ?



Just guessing that Trump could owe huge sums of money to Russia. Of course we will never know because we will never see his tax returns.

Republican senators are pursuing the investigation and punishment of Russia, so it won't be Trump's decision to make.

rubicon 12-29-2016 01:56 PM

Trump made it clear he believed the Obama's Administrations policy of telling the enemy what he was going to do and when he was going to do it was a losing strategy. Trump fancies himself a good strategist when it comes to negotiations. The news media and otherwise observers in general often misinterpret the subtleties in Trumps sound bites and his tendency to try and get talks underway on the right foot.

What should Trump do about the Crimea when Putin has already taken it over and the people in this region mostly welcomed it? Perhaps I am wrong but I do not view Russia and China as a threat in the sense that they want to invade our lands. I do recognize that they are both aggressively pursuing advantage for their respective nations..

Pursuing Putin is like pursuing the opportunity to ask an attractive woman if she would like to dance with you. The worse she can say is no thank you.

Personal Best Regards:

dillywho 12-29-2016 02:28 PM

Until it is PROVEN, then why ASSUME it was Russia doing the hacking? Just because Obama says it's so, doesn't make it so.

Is Obama relying on the very same Intelligence that was furnished to Bush before the Iraqi invasion? Bush was accused of lying; why does Obama get a pass?

Just sayin'...........

Allegiance 12-29-2016 02:37 PM

Barry will do or say anything to harm America. Is that not clear now?

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ColdNoMore 12-29-2016 02:49 PM

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Posted by Guest
Why does Donald Trump, who says America first in everything, publicly object to any US action against Russia for what everyone except he, acknowledges Russia did in the USA election ? He actually says we should move on.

And why does he say he will overturn any sanctions put on Russia for hacking the USA blatantly and openly ?

Lastly, why does Trump want to lift any sanctions on Russia for their actions in Crimea ?

Because Chump is already controlled by Putin and he doesn't want to make him angry...and expose that control.

Trump will be squirming today though...as at least Obama has the leadership to take action. :thumbup:

U.S. expels 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds: official


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U.S. expels 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds: official


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States expelled 35 Russian diplomats and closed two Russian compounds in New York and Maryland in response to a campaign of harassment against American diplomats in Moscow, a senior U.S. official said on Thursday.

The move against the diplomats from the Russian embassy in Washington and consulate in San Francisco is part of a series of actions announced on Thursday to punish Russia for a campaign of intimidation of American diplomats in Moscow and interference in the U.S. election.


Now let's watch how many on this forum are NOT American patriots...and get pizzed at what Obama has done.

It won't be hard to make the list of those who voted for Trump, because they hated Hillary... more than they love this great nation. :popcorn:

Buffalo Jim 12-29-2016 03:20 PM

The above Post is as usual just amazing .

ColdNoMore 12-29-2016 03:29 PM

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The above Post is as usual just amazing .

Still living in your head rent free I see. :thumbup:

Buffalo Jim 12-29-2016 03:48 PM

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Still living in your head rent free I see. :thumbup:

Yes ! Yes , you are and I am grateful and honored to serve as your host .

Please go to the Thread " Bigots Did Not Elect Trump " to see the special way that I have recognized and honored you !

Rockyrd 12-29-2016 03:49 PM

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Posted by Guest
Trump made it clear he believed the Obama's Administrations policy of telling the enemy what he was going to do and when he was going to do it was a losing strategy. Trump fancies himself a good strategist when it comes to negotiations. The news media and otherwise observers in general often misinterpret the subtleties in Trumps sound bites and his tendency to try and get talks underway on the right foot.

What should Trump do about the Crimea when Putin has already taken it over and the people in this region mostly welcomed it? Perhaps I am wrong but I do not view Russia and China as a threat in the sense that they want to invade our lands. I do recognize that they are both aggressively pursuing advantage for their respective nations..

Pursuing Putin is like pursuing the opportunity to ask an attractive woman if she would like to dance with you. The worse she can say is no thank you.

Personal Best Regards:

I suppose we could just explain nicely to the EU that we are sorry we cannot support them anymore. Russia is our friend.

Guess Russia wants to blow up NATO was not simply imaginary, but it is real perpaps.

MDLNB 12-29-2016 05:06 PM

So, if Obama is SOOO worried about turning over the Nuclear Football, why the sudden initiative to yank the tiger's tail? Or, maybe Obama is hoping that Trump will push the button and start a nuclear event. Hey Obie, there is no bunker in the mountain for you, once you move out of the White House. Obie is strapping on the ultimate bomb vest.

Allegiance 12-29-2016 06:17 PM

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So, if Obama is SOOO worried about turning over the Nuclear Football, why the sudden initiative to yank the tiger's tail? Or, maybe Obama is hoping that Trump will push the button and start a nuclear event. Hey Obie, there is no bunker in the mountain for you, once you move out of the White House. Obie is strapping on the ultimate bomb vest.

Barry's days are finished, in three weeks, he will go down as America's worst president and he will be suicidal.

A racist piece of gutter trash, why does he not go back to Chicago and try to save some lives. Look what his home town has turned into and not a word of chigago is spoken by him.

An analysis of any of his speeches concludes with a diagnosis of narcissism, much like our handful of totv liberals.

Buffalo Jim 12-29-2016 06:42 PM

Oh exulted CNM please , please enlighten us on this subject .

Maxamillion 12-29-2016 07:07 PM

Question for Trump followers.He doesn't want
 
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Posted by Guest
Why does Donald Trump, who says America first in everything, publicly object to any US action against Russia for what everyone except he, acknowledges Russia did in the USA election ? He actually says we should move on.

And why does he say he will overturn any sanctions put on Russia for hacking the USA blatantly and openly ?

Lastly, why does Trump want to lift any sanctions on Russia for their actions in Crimea ?

lol
He doesn't want the Russians investigated for Hacking and more,( a LOT more)
Yet IF I remember correctly didn't he keep telling us the elections were " Rigged "
He said it over and over and over again, did he know something we didn't know?
Think about it HE NEVER said who it was rigged for,
Did he know about the Russian hacking and maybe the rigging of our National election.
People should look into Putin's raise in Russia and how he became the richest person in the world and How he will take over the USA with out firing a shot ,
Yes , it is time that we not only investigate Russia's involvement in USA's elections but what type of control they just might have over out next President.
They always said they would take us over with OUT firing a shot, well here it might be coming

Rockyrd 12-29-2016 07:36 PM

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Posted by Guest
lol
He doesn't want the Russians investigated for Hacking and more,( a LOT more)
Yet IF I remember correctly didn't he keep telling us the elections were " Rigged "
He said it over and over and over again, did he know something we didn't know?
Think about it HE NEVER said who it was rigged for,
Did he know about the Russian hacking and maybe the rigging of our National election.
People should look into Putin's raise in Russia and how he became the richest person in the world and How he will take over the USA with out firing a shot ,
Yes , it is time that we not only investigate Russia's involvement in USA's elections but what type of control they just might have over out next President.
They always said they would take us over with OUT firing a shot, well here it might be coming

You are getting warm !

hypocritehunter 12-29-2016 08:31 PM

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Posted by Guest
Trump made it clear he believed the Obama's Administrations policy of telling the enemy what he was going to do and when he was going to do it was a losing strategy. Trump fancies himself a good strategist when it comes to negotiations. The news media and otherwise observers in general often misinterpret the subtleties in Trumps sound bites and his tendency to try and get talks underway on the right foot.

What should Trump do about the Crimea when Putin has already taken it over and the people in this region mostly welcomed it? Perhaps I am wrong but I do not view Russia and China as a threat in the sense that they want to invade our lands. I do recognize that they are both aggressively pursuing advantage for their respective nations..

Pursuing Putin is like pursuing the opportunity to ask an attractive woman if she would like to dance with you. The worse she can say is no thank you.

Personal Best Regards:

Wow, do you think people in the UK or France said the same thing about Hitler's Germany? Maybe you don't think Putin is a Fascist? Maybe you believe Putin over our own government?

Villagesperson 12-29-2016 08:36 PM

Putin has to be the happiest man on earth.

He can just sit back and relax.

He has the President Elect of the USA openly, publicly on Twitter basically calling ALL of our intelligence agencies either liars or incompetent. They are the USA intelligence and they agree 100% on who did it.

He has the President Elect of the USA telling the country to "move on" and simply forget computer espionage.

He has a President Elect questioning sanctions placed on them , not just for hacking, but INTERNATIONAL sanctions placed on them for MILITARY intervention in Ukraine, and suggests we might back out.

He has a President Elect considering lifting sanctions which would allow a tremendous boost to the Russian economy.

I can only assume this is about HIM as it normally is.He wants no doubt about his election, which nobody is doubting, and this plays into what his adversaries have been saying. He WILL allow his personal interests interfere in governing.

Putin is simply giggling at all of us.

Don Baldwin 12-29-2016 08:38 PM

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Wow, do you think people in the UK or France said the same thing about Hitler's Germany? Maybe you don't think Putin is a Fascist? Maybe you believe Putin over our own government?

I DIS-believe them BOTH equally.

Buffalo Jim 12-29-2016 08:42 PM

Neither Putin or China would ever wish to have to try to tame the whiney sniveling useless nonproductive population known collectively as " The Self-appointed Nonproductive Intellectuals " or more simply as of " The Left " .

Far easier for them to keep matters stirred up and watch the rest of us struggle to financially support the Libs .

graciegirl 12-29-2016 08:58 PM

There is no issue here except the nasty feelings folks have who voted for Hillary.

They just keep trying to find something to make themselves feel better.

Anybody can see that.

ColdNoMore 12-29-2016 09:04 PM

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Posted by Guest
Putin has to be the happiest man on earth.

He can just sit back and relax.

He has the President Elect of the USA openly, publicly on Twitter basically calling ALL of our intelligence agencies either liars or incompetent. They are the USA intelligence and they agree 100% on who did it.

He has the President Elect of the USA telling the country to "move on" and simply forget computer espionage.

He has a President Elect questioning sanctions placed on them , not just for hacking, but INTERNATIONAL sanctions placed on them for MILITARY intervention in Ukraine, and suggests we might back out.

He has a President Elect considering lifting sanctions which would allow a tremendous boost to the Russian economy.

I can only assume this is about HIM as it normally is.He wants no doubt about his election, which nobody is doubting, and this plays into what his adversaries have been saying. He WILL allow his personal interests interfere in governing.

Putin is simply giggling at all of us.

Yep.

And he's giggling because of all the ignorant, un-American people who think Putin is OK because he helped Trump win and are the ones now running around saying... "we won."

They are truly too stupid to understand the ramifications of what they have supposedly 'won.' :ohdear:

MDLNB 12-30-2016 07:38 AM

A question for all you Hillary losers:

Once your new PRESIDENT is sworn in, will you all be able to accept it and put away your hankies? All this whining and crying is bringing me down....:a20:

janmcn 12-30-2016 10:58 AM

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Posted by Guest
Yep.

And he's giggling because of all the ignorant, un-American people who think Putin is OK because he helped Trump win and are the ones now running around saying... "we won."

They are truly too stupid to understand the ramifications of what they have supposedly 'won.' :ohdear:


Thank goodness the republican house and senate will remain behind when Obama leaves office to conduct their two year investigation into the Russian hacking.

Trump is really painted into the corner. If he rescinds the executive order, he looks like he is condoning the meddling in our elections by Russia. If he doesn't rescind the executive order, his buddy Putin will be angry.

Thank goodness, the president-elect has agreed to be briefed on the Russian hacking by, soon to be his, intelligence community next week.

MDLNB 12-30-2016 12:02 PM

Putin ate Obie's lunch, and has the grin on his face of a cat that ate the canary. Obama is such a disgrace.

Buffalo Jim 12-30-2016 12:14 PM

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Putin ate Obie's lunch, and has the grin on his face of a cat that ate the canary. Obama is such a disgrace.


Obama can not even act like a gracious loser . No instead we get all of the behaviors of a petulant child

janmcn 12-30-2016 01:52 PM

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Posted by Guest
Yep.

And he's giggling because of all the ignorant, un-American people who think Putin is OK because he helped Trump win and are the ones now running around saying... "we won."

They are truly too stupid to understand the ramifications of what they have supposedly 'won.' :ohdear:



Senator John McCain will hold the first congressional investigation hearings into Russia hacking next week with the new congress.

The moves Obama made yesterday are being called the first step in retaliations.

Don Baldwin 12-30-2016 03:35 PM

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Senator John McCain will hold the first congressional investigation hearings into Russia hacking next week with the new congress.

The moves Obama made yesterday are being called the first step in retaliations.

He is a scary, old, crazy man!

jchase 12-30-2016 08:39 PM

Why are you afraid of putting your name!

Taltarzac725 12-30-2016 11:08 PM

Donald Trump is the problem. He seems to have traitorous intentions towards Russia's Vladimir Putin. John McCain is actually an honorable politician. I find people's love of Donald Trump very frightening. It is like people stop thinking critically when this blowhard starts to talk.

ColdNoMore 12-31-2016 06:19 AM

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A question for all you Hillary losers:

Once your new PRESIDENT is sworn in, will you all be able to accept it and put away your hankies? All this whining and crying is bringing me down....

Like you quit your own whining and screeching...after Obama won two terms?

Fvcking hypocrite. :oops:

MDLNB 12-31-2016 06:29 AM

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Posted by Guest
Yep.

And he's giggling because of all the ignorant, un-American people who think Putin is OK because he helped Trump win and are the ones now running around saying... "we won."

They are truly too stupid to understand the ramifications of what they have supposedly 'won.' :ohdear:

How did Putin "help" Trump win? Is Putin responsible for releasing the truth about Hillary's and the DNC's corruption? Was it unfair that the American people have this revealed to them?

Sore losers will use every excuse but the truth.

MDLNB 12-31-2016 06:39 AM

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Donald Trump is the problem. He seems to have traitorous intentions towards Russia's Vladimir Putin. John McCain is actually an honorable politician. I find people's love of Donald Trump very frightening. It is like people stop thinking critically when this blowhard starts to talk.

I can empathize with you. Many of us felt the same way about Obama..........and still do.

ColdNoMore 12-31-2016 07:02 AM

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How did Putin "help" Trump win? Is Putin responsible for releasing the truth about Hillary's and the DNC's corruption? Was it unfair that the American people have this revealed to them?

Sore losers will use every excuse but the truth.

Are you really dumb enough to think that since Putin hacked BOTH the RNC and the DNC, but only released the DNC's e-mails...that there wasn't just as damaging evidence from the RNC also?

On second thought, that was a rhetorical question...because I'm sure you are that ignorant. :ohdear:

MDLNB 12-31-2016 07:43 AM

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Are you really dumb enough to think that since Putin hacked BOTH the RNC and the DNC, but only released the DNC's e-mails...that there wasn't just as damaging evidence from the RNC also?

On second thought, that was a rhetorical question...because I'm sure you are that ignorant. :ohdear:

Ha, ha, ha, you are so lame and hysterical. So, you are still making excuses for Hillary's poor performance?

It's just NOT FAIR! You are still in denial. You are still blaming the Russians for Hillary having an illegal server and the DNC saying negative things about Bernie and his followers. You are blaming the Russians for Hillary's speech where she called Americans deplorable for supporting Trump. You are probably blaming the Russians for your last sunburn. You are not only funny, but pathetic.

Russians responsible for decades of hacking = yes
Russians responsible for Hillary's pathetic loss = NO!

You losers keep attempting to find a way to justify supporting a corrupt piece of garbage and then blame your whining on conservatives for not moving on. You are just a barrel of contradictions. If your parents were around, they would tell you to grow up.

dave harris 12-31-2016 08:10 AM

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Posted by Guest
Trump made it clear he believed the Obama's Administrations policy of telling the enemy what he was going to do and when he was going to do it was a losing strategy. Trump fancies himself a good strategist when it comes to negotiations. The news media and otherwise observers in general often misinterpret the subtleties in Trumps sound bites and his tendency to try and get talks underway on the right foot.

What should Trump do about the Crimea when Putin has already taken it over and the people in this region mostly welcomed it? Perhaps I am wrong but I do not view Russia and China as a threat in the sense that they want to invade our lands. I do recognize that they are both aggressively pursuing advantage for their respective nations..

Pursuing Putin is like pursuing the opportunity to ask an attractive woman if she would like to dance with you. The worse she can say is no thank you.

Personal Best Regards:


The ramblings of a communist lover or someone who is very naive.

MDLNB 12-31-2016 08:24 AM

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The ramblings of a communist lover or someone who is very naive.

Funny! The left almost elected a communist socialist, Bernie Sanders and then attempts to use themselves as a slur against someone they cannot debate facts with.

janmcn 01-01-2017 10:14 AM

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Funny! The left almost elected a communist socialist, Bernie Sanders and then attempts to use themselves as a slur against someone they cannot debate facts with.



How can one be a communist socialist? Aren't you one or the other?

MDLNB 01-01-2017 07:58 PM

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How can one be a communist socialist? Aren't you one or the other?

Oh my gosh, you must be young. Because anyone my age had a mandatory civics class in public school.

Someone please spoon feed this person.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 01-02-2017 07:23 AM

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Posted by Guest
Why does Donald Trump, who says America first in everything, publicly object to any US action against Russia for what everyone except he, acknowledges Russia did in the USA election ? He actually says we should move on.

And why does he say he will overturn any sanctions put on Russia for hacking the USA blatantly and openly ?

Lastly, why does Trump want to lift any sanctions on Russia for their actions in Crimea ?

First of all, if Russia did indeed hack the US, it wasn't done openly and blatantly. There is still a good deal of doubt whether this happened and whether or not it was Russia that did it. Secondly, if it was Russia, they did not hack the USA, they hacked Hillary Clinton's private server. According to Wikileaks, their source is not
Russia.

As for all of those who are yelling that all of our intelligent agencies agree on this, that is not true. There is conflict of opinion with some agencies. And don't forget, these are the same agencies that said that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. How convenient it must be for some to claim that our intelligence was faulty back them but totally trust it now.

But even if it's true, maybe President-Elect Trump is looking toward Russia as an ally in our war against terrorism. Imagine the US and Russia working together to fight ISIS.

Maybe hacking a citizens private server is small potatoes compared to winning the war on terror. Don't forget, we held our nose and allied with Russia to win World War 2. Is Donald Trump acting like FDR?

MDLNB 01-02-2017 07:56 AM

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First of all, if Russia did indeed hack the US, it wasn't done openly and blatantly. There is still a good deal of doubt whether this happened and whether or not it was Russia that did it. Secondly, if it was Russia, they did not hack the USA, they hacked Hillary Clinton's private server. According to Wikileaks, their source is not
Russia.

As for all of those who are yelling that all of our intelligent agencies agree on this, that is not true. There is conflict of opinion with some agencies. And don't forget, these are the same agencies that said that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. How convenient it must be for some to claim that our intelligence was faulty back them but totally trust it now.

But even if it's true, maybe President-Elect Trump is looking toward Russia as an ally in our war against terrorism. Imagine the US and Russia working together to fight ISIS.

Maybe hacking a citizens private server is small potatoes compared to winning the war on terror. Don't forget, we held our nose and allied with Russia to win World War 2. Is Donald Trump acting like FDR?

I agree. The point is that Russia has been hacking forever and this is just a lefty excuse for failure. And we have been hacking since shortly after they started. It's not like this is a new idea or incident. The only difference is that someone leaked the left's corruption and they are crying about it. Why are they not complaining about Trump's '96 tax return that was leaked or the private and illegally obtained recording that was leaked? Is it because he was not incriminated as bad as Hillary or the DNC?

The left needs to shut their hypocritical mouths *** up.


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