Why Progressives Are Attracted To Socialism
 

Has it ever occurred to you why progressives are attracted to socialism?

Well it all started with those radicals of the 60-70's who grew up upper middle class. Now some ideas are so absurd only intellectuals are seduced by them.

Hence these same radicals marched in the streets rallying against the very capitalistic system that elevated them in our society. There is also an underlying second reason which I will get to momentarily.

However these same radicals migrated to our educational institutes corrupting each successive generation of kids inundating them with distorted views on capitalism, religion, etc

Enter the millennial and their love of socialism and their hero Bernie Sanders. Like their forefathers before them this newest generation coming of age and ready to vote witnessed the wonders of socialism right here in the good US of A.

Those radicals of 60-70's also entered government, increasing welfare benefits at an alarming rate, which now segues us to the second reason progressives are drawn to socialism.

Socialism eliminates the risk of failure and responsibility. Socialism as the 47% non-Romney voters explain provides security with crutches. Hence the fear of failing is eliminated in life and God is dead because all progressives need can be had nursing at the government's breast. And it all free! free! free! It works something like the island of fun in the Pinocchio story. You know kids turning into donkeys as they devoured cotton candy and lollipops

Is it any wonder America's kids today are offended easily as defined by trigger warnings, micrco agressions cultural misappropriations and seeking safe spaces.

Is it any wonder why they broke down when an enterprising capitalist won the election . God forbid they have to go out and work for a living. I mean what if they fail at their job? And they recognize that in the corporate world you don't get a trophy just for showing up. Gosh, what's an enterprising socialist to do?

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Interesting and accurate. :thumbup:

Before even reading your entire post, I first pondered the question you asked, and my thoughts went directly to the simple answer, "because it's easy". I then read your response and see that we agree. I appreciate your effort to put more thought and words to answering it than mine though. Would be interested in hearing any opposing thoughts with as much in-depth explanation.

Explains exactly why republicans are so hell bent on getting rid of the single-payer socialized medicine, commonly known as Medicare. They've been trying to do this for over 50 years and finally have the stooge in the White House who will sign their bill into law.

There are no Republicans attempting to ditch YOUR socialized Medicare program, so don't have a coronary. That is just a liberal, left wing talking point to get ignorant/stupid guppies to follow the liberal, do noting politicians so that the can make more money off of you while doing nothing more than campaigning.

Wow, some of you libtards have no self-respect, or self-reliance.

But, Medicare really is cr@p.

Hey Jan - Is this the first time Republicans have had control of congress and the president in 50 years??

I would not worrty so much about medicare; how do you feel SS is going to survive with the weak necked Millennials that do not want to work (would rather go to school for ever) and will make little, if any, contribution?

The majority of these weak neck useless generation wear neck cushions in cars and planes...they can't even hold their own head up for a couple hours...who is going to pay the taxes???

Somebody help me out...which one of the liberals on here has the pecker puffer son they asked us to make fun of?
I am curious if he had to choose between gay right initiatives or supporting the helpless, which would be more important to him?

It might help if they would quit giving SS to those that did not contribute to it. That would make it go a bit further.

A bill of the vietnam war we are still paying
 

In the 1960's you received a draft deferment for becoming a TEACHER. The number of male teachers exploded.

The students, were exposed to far too many teachers that became teachers to avoid the draft.

Have you noticed the deafening silence from progressives on this topic . and wasn't it predictable that they would reach for the medicare social security gambit. the only reference to entitlement to either of these programs applies to greedy politicians who can't keep their hands off retirees monies

Trump connected with many in the black community with his honest assessment of how progressives failed them. it is one reason why Hillary could not garner the votes that Obama had in 200-2012. And I seriously doubt if Obama could run in 2016 he would have garner as many black votes as he did in previous years because false Democrat promises caught up with them.

My hope is that as people we move away from collective thinking and return to individual -independent thinkers.

Trump has his problems to be sure. However in addition to Democrat resistance he has to deal with some Republican recalcitrants which is going to make his job that much harder.
I don't mind and even agree that Republican need to challenge him. I just wish they stop playing to the crowd to garner voters.
Hope Trump is successful with his plans to introduce a plan for term limits not only for congress but also the Supreme Court.

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Re: Medicare
 

When, the Clintons brought up a national health care insurance plan. I had a German friend and customer and I asked about hwo national healthcare works in Germany.

Short summary-He told me that people who can afford to do so buy private healthcare TO GET BETTER CARE. Under our LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE SYSTEM-you cannot buy better care. I pay almost twice minimum and am not eligible for inflation protection because I do not have a pension and am living on PERSONAL SAVINGS.

At the time, they had come up with meds that would keep a patient with aids alive cost was over 200,000 a year.
I asked my German friend if there was some sort of cap where the state stops paying. His reply was that, you know our history-GERMANY WILL NOT EUTHANIZE ANYONE.
According to my friend there are wards of people who are brain dead and are kept alive by machines at government cost.

MY VIEW-WHILE WE HAVE NO CHOICE-WHEN, YOU DO NOT PAY FOR IT YOU LOOSE CONTROL OF YOUR MEDICAL CARE. THAT IS A HIGH PRICE TO PAY.

Better solution. ????????? Perhaps, FEES for service should be CLEAR AND POSTED. Perhaps, success rates should be public record. ASIDE: publishing success rates can backfire. Doctors would avoid patients with a higher risk profile.

I happen to agree . There were a number of draft dodgers, Bill Clinton among them. On the other hand there were guys like my cousin Tommy who served 4 years in the Air Force was discharged and re-up'd in the Army and did two tours of duty Viet Nam

I personally believe the nation made a mistake by moving from the draft to an all volunteer military. I wish it were reinstated but with less room for exceptions to equalize that the draft apply fairly across all socio-economic lines. I say this because too many young people have no skin in the game and hence seem almost oblivious to the nature and dangers of a failed foreign policy. I also say so because a volunteer military could well become cost prohibited. and as we are witnessing now criteria for selection continues to be lowered. I also say so because as many of us learned the military experience coming right out of high school was indeed helpful.

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Your cousin sounds like a stand-up guy. How about yourself? Did you enlist or get drafted? How about your kids? Did they enlist? How about Trump or his kids?

Yes, I enlisted and served my 3 years.

Ha ha ha, do you and Trump think that congress is ever going to vote in term limits and put themselves out of work?

Trump got six deferments because of bone spurs in his foot. Now he can't remember which foot it was. He equates his time spent in military school to actually serving in the military. Don Jr and Eric have never served.

Janmcn, what branch of the military did you serve in?

LOL.... :1rotfl:

That broad brush and ignorance...are on full display today. :thumbup:

I thought they served 4 years...

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You are aware there is no draft anymore, right...or are you suggesting any able bodied man that does not serve is a pu$$y?

Of course your not, that would be sexist of you...

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I am guessing peace corps!

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You thought who served 4 years in the military? None of the Trump family was in the military.

Waiting to hear from Rubicon since he brought up military service.

How about some of the others on Political Forum - Don Baldwin, MDLBQ, Buffalo Jim? Military service? How long and when?

Oh you were in the peace corps too, cool. Did you visit far lands and help hungry people build $hit? Is your real name Tom Tuttle from Tacoma Washington???

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I don't know about the others but I think MD was a mercenary.

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It seems you guys got a bromance going on

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Sort of like Blake and Adam on The Voice LOL

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You mean socialism where the public joins together with public tax dollars and creates parts of our society like:

(1) State and federal highway system
(2) The United States Armed Forces
(3) Medicare
(4) Social Security
(5) Sheriff's and Police Department
(6) Local Fire Department and Emergency Services
(7) Public libraries
(8) US Postal Service
(9) Bridges construction
(10) Public landfills
(11) Garbage collection
(12) Fighting of wars
(13) Student loans and grants
(14) Farm subsidies
(15) Corporate bailouts for those too big to fail
(16) Museums
(17) Public schools
(18) Jails and prisons
(19) Veterans health care
(20) Sewers
(21) The Court System
(22) The G. I. Bill
(23) Dams and rural electrical service
(24) Public beaches and golf courses
(25) The FDA
(26) Public transportation
(27) PBS
(28) The Center for Disease Control and Prevention
(29) Street lighting
(30) FEMA
(31) NPR
(32) Public defenders
(33) Homeland Security and TSA
(34) Air Traffic Control System
(35) The White House and all state and federal agencies

to name just a few that I would prefer to have remain in the government control of a socialist system rather than be run by a private, for profit, entity. Call me a Progressive, but that's the way I want it to stay. How about you?

What do conservatives want, oligarchic fascism? I sincerely doubt it.

75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

Yeah half that $hit is on my property tax bill, what does that have to do with the federal government

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No, I was in the US Army. Served from 1966-69. Vietnam vet.

How about all of you Regressives?

yes, I did and at the age of 17 and it was one of the smartest move I ever made in my life. I served and I served proudly.. Thank you and yes Tommy was a stand up guy

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Excellent post, that will be quickly dismissed by Regressives.


They aren't even smart enough to know, that calling someone 'progressive'...is a huge compliment.

Given that this country became great because of 'progress/progressive thinking'...it's unfathomable why they take such delight in being known as 'regressive.' :ohdear:

Yep rubicon joined the military at the age of 17 and served for four years.

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Thank you for your service Sandy. I don't consider myself a regressive but I did register for the draft when I turned 18 and never got called

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You've CHANGED the definition of "progressive" it USED to mean...progress...making something better.

Now...it just means diversity...making things worse.

Just like you changed the definition of marriage, equality, and "normal" to name a few.

Was having breakfast outside with a couple on veteran's day when a woman passed our table and asked if any of us had been in the military. The question sort of surprised me but after a pause I said yes I had been in the military. she then replied "well thank you for your service" A thoughtful gesture indeed.

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Real patriots

Yeah, it's all on your local, state, or federal tax bill because it's part of public services, that you use, provided by socialism. And the question was not about the federal government, but about socialism.

"Is this the first time Republicans have had control of congress and the presidency in 50 years?"

No but Nixon was too smart to end Medicare, Ford was smart enough, Reagan smart enough until he lost his mind, HW Bush smart enough and W Bush nobody told him to do it, enter Trump the stooge will sign anything put in front of him.

What do all of the above have in common? They all left office either in defeat or disgrace, except for Reagan who left not in his right mind.

Washington has no stomach to deal with medicare or social security
But the news media know how to stir up voters

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Tell that to Speaker Paul Ryan who has made this his primary goal, something he has been so passionate about ever since losing the election in 2012.

Sadly a typical liberal
 

I do not see anyone but LIBERALS with the name calling,"stooge in the white house."
While people who earn a living or in case of the villages have earned a living surely, if they did some reading, did not vote for OBAMA yet, there were no protests. George Bush left office AND DID NOT BERATE OBAMA. So far we have seen SOROS paid for anti TRUMP protests. Obama is doing everything in his power to MESS UP OUR/MY COUNTRY. So far Obama has fanned sparks of RACE ISSUES into forest fires, he has made hard work and SUCCESS evil, he has made SAVING FOR RETIREMENT evil, he has made SELF RELIANCE evil, he has made the you o meeeeee gimmmmmmeeeeeeeee the view of far too many americans. Obama has bowed to MUSLIMS-the only president in history to so STOOP, Obama has shafted our ONLY ally in the middle east-ISRAEL. Obama has STICK HIS NOSE INTO BREXIT-England to the European that they demand their INDEPENDENCE, TRUMP won because his view AMERICA FIRST. oBAMA thinks we should pay for all the ills of the world while our country goes further and further into debt to pay for it

RE: PROFITS and Medicare.
Medicare DICTATES the price which is far below what a person without medicare and or medical insurance would pay. The patient has no reason to control costs

I HAVE NO QUESTION OUR SYSTEMS ARE BROKEN. FOR ME IT IS CLEAR THAT ALLOWING OUR COUNTRY TO BE CONTROLLED BY LIBERALS IS THE CAUSE.

CALL ME A RACIST, A NAZI, A XENOPHOBE
CALL ME SOMEONE WHO SIMPLY DOES NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK.