Julian Assange and Russians, Trump says "political witch hunt"
 

It would REALLY be nice, if Trump would show us that he is truly an American for a change. I'm concerned that I've made a big mistake in my vote.

And yet to criticize Russia at all.

Bulk of his statement, and the statement from Conway was to insure everyone knows HE won the election.

He cares most about him. He has never done one thing for this country, and he has chosen to take this opportunity and make it about HIM.

"Washington (CNN)President-elect Donald Trump downplayed Russia's role in the election after a briefing with top US intelligence officials, even as a declassified report of their conclusions pointed definitively at Vladimir Putin."

Trump downplays Russian meddling in election despite intel report - CNNPolitics.com

"(CNN)Donald Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway on Friday rejected the intelligence community's assessment that Russia meddled in the 2016 election, saying "conclusive evidence" has not yet been provided to the President-elect."


Conway: Stop trying to 'delegitimize' Trump victory - CNNPolitics.com

Link to his statement....

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us...-briefing.html

Seems to me the only folks making big political statements about this is the Trump folks.

Congress has validated the election.....this is now all about HIM.



"WASHINGTON — American intelligence officials have concluded that the president of Russia, Vladimir V. Putin, personally “ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election,” and turned from seeking to “denigrate” Hillary Clinton to developing “a clear preference for President-elect Trump.”

The conclusions were part of a declassified intelligence report, ordered by President Obama, that was released on Friday. Its main determinations were described to President-elect Donald J. Trump by the nation’s top intelligence officials earlier in the day, and he responded by acknowledging, for the first time, that Russia had sought to hack into the Democratic National Committee’s computer systems. But he insisted that the effort had no effect on the election, and he said nothing about the conclusion that Mr. Putin, at some point last year, decided to aid his candidacy.

The report, a damning and surprisingly detailed account of Russia’s efforts to undermine the American electoral system and Mrs. Clinton in particular, went on to assess that Mr. Putin had “aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us...ck-report.html

I've been saying it all along, people basically hated Hillary more than they love this nation...and have no right to ever call themselves Patriotic Americans again. :censored:

The briefing Chump received today has definitely hit him between the eyes though. :boom:

It was very detailed and documented to the point...that not even Trump could ignore or refute.

I applaud our hard working intelligence agencies for telling the truth, even while they know that Chump will exact his revenge (because that's just the kind of gutter scum that he is)...and they will soon be out of a job.

He's not trying to blame the 400 lb kid on the bed anymore though and he's now trying to misdirect with the fact since voting machines weren't affected...neither was the election.

As if massive negative publicity toward the Dem's, and NEVER toward the Repub's...didn't sway millions of undecided voters?

Really?

How many even halfway intelligent people (besides the usual ignorant suspects on here of course)...really believe that?

As if massive negative publicity toward the Dem's, and NEVER toward the Repub's...didn't sway millions of undecided voters?

Really?

How many even halfway intelligent people (besides the usual ignorant suspects on here of course)...really believe that?


Are you ****ting Me? You memories about as long as chis dick...

Russia hacked us, big news....not! It happens everyday. What's new?

Did anyone change their vote due to Russian hacking?

The newspaper revealed hacked tax documents from Trump. Did anyone complain about that hacking?
Someone leaked the private illegally recorded conversation of Trump from a decade ago. Did anyone complain about that "hacking?"

I will bet there there were more Republicans that did not vote for Trump due to hacking than Hillary. Any bets????

This from Time Magazine this past August.

I know you folks will find a way to defend and support...be aware, this person runs our foreign affairs.

The yelling and screaming about Obama at Jeremiah Wrights church, the conversation about Sal Alinsky..in 2008....AND I WAS ONE OF THISE, was loud and condemning compared to this person...links to gangsters, pics with gangsters he swore he never met, and in and in.

These same people who were shocked at Obama, accept this person without a peep...actually, they support and defend.

Listen, I was one of those people who posted anti Obama posts onere, and was concerned, but this man...this anti American man simply petrified me.

"So, yes, it’s true that Trump has failed to land a business venture inside Russia. But the real truth is that, as major banks in America stopped lending him money following his many bankruptcies, the Trump organization was forced to seek financing from non-traditional institutions. Several had direct ties to Russian financial interests in ways that have raised eyebrows. What’s more, several of Trump’s senior advisors have business ties to Russia or its satellite politicians.

“The Trump-Russia links beneath the surface are even more extensive,” Max Boot wrote in the Los Angeles Times. “Trump has sought and received funding from Russian investors for his business ventures, especially after most American banks stopped lending to him following his multiple bankruptcies.”


Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia

As always, you simply make things up.

No tax was hacked. The Times received 3 pages of a STATE return in the mail from unknown.

Can you cite a link, a story or anything where Russia hacked to affect an election in this country ? They hacked in Europe, among other crimes, and were sanctioned for that...Trump suggested we might just drop those sanctions that were placed to support our allies. He also said, again publicly, that the USA should simply move on from this.

Most importantly, you don't even understand the issue.

Have you heard anyone decidedly say the results were altered or even affected ?

Nope...you simply heard and still hear Trump speaking of himself, never said vein criticizing Russia, but criticizing all over the world outcry intelligence agencies.

Stop posting if you don't understand or refuse to read.

Russians wanted Trump to win for a reason. Trump wanted to win in the worst way. I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder if there was some type of collusion involved between the two buddies. Didn't you ever wonder why Trump was always so complimentary towards Putin? Didn't you ever wonder why his prior campaign manager quit the campaign suddenly after his connections to Russia were uncovered? Now we have a possible secretary of state who is real close to the fascist dictator. We'll never know for sure if we don't have a bi-partisan committee looking into this.

I find it funny how the same loonie tunes who believed Trump when he said Obama was a Muslim Kenyan find it hard to believe their are people stupid enough to believe the fake news the Russians (and some of Trump's staff) have put out there.

Like I said.... :D




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Good point...Crooked Hillary was definitely not as interested in winning as Trump was!



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If you voted for Hillary, you did make a mistake......:D

Politicians have not changed nor has the game of politics with one exception the ability to communicate to so many globally in a matter of microseconds.

Voters have not changed either we have a need to validate our vote so we won't have to tell ourselves that we got snookered.

So what's a voter to do when a politician looks you straight in the eye telling an untruth? What some do is take a step back and look at the bigger picture to see what is motivating the moving party.

People say Trump has been disrespectful toward our intelligence community. Yet, if one is objective we see that the intelligence community has repeatedly lost the respect of the people from failed intelligence, domestic snooping, and alleged torture tactics.

People say Russia hacked the DNC and spread information about Hillary Clinton to discredit her and to push the election to Trump.

Well all countries hack, spy, steal from one another so that is not newsworthy.

And from the advent of the primary, actually before, the American people knew of Hillary's many scandals breaches etc.

In a news article DNI Clapper states "Russia meddled in the election" Those opposing Trump ran with that headline and as usual left our the rest of the story . Clapper also said " the intelligence community couldn't gauge the influence the leaks of information had during the campaign or whether they impacted voters choices, describing the matter as outside his purview

Personally I am not a Trump fan. I did vote for Trump, not because of Trump, but because I rejected the social justice warriors (SJW) who were turning this nation into a hedonistic socialist nation and who were/are so intent on their agenda that they would create anarchy.

People claim that Trump's response to the Russia hacking is all about him. Perhaps? but the bigger issue is that the SJW continue to attempt to delegitimatize and discredit the Republican win in order to marginalize and minimize the policy changes the Trump Administration has announced. "Make America Sick Again"is one of those fear mongering canards.

Personal Best Regards:

If you are too ignorant to understand the comment, why respond to it?
Trumps tax return was leaked to the paper. Did anyone complain? NOPE.
Trumps illegally recorded conversation was leaked. Did anyone complain? NOPE.
It's the same as Hacking, you idiot.

Was anyone's vote changed by any hacking. Name me one. If anything, having the truth come out about the DNC and Hillary SHOULD have convinced the stupid left that they were backing a corrupt and evil, self serving, morally and ethically deviant criminal. But no, librerals are so intent on winning, that they totally disregard her criminal nature.

No one says Trump is the perfect candidate. There is no such thing as perfect. Republicans thought Reagan was the best president, but the left will still deny that. Reagan was not perfect, but he was the better choice. Trump is not perfect (far from it) but he was by far the best choice of the two.

So, do your best to disparage him, cut him down, demean him, but he is there and NOTHING you can do will give you Hillary. Thank goodness that disease is in remission. If they put her in jail, then she will be permanently out of the picture. One can only hope that there really is some justice left in America.

Trump has not said anything that I take issue with regarding Russia or Putin. I happen to agree with him on Putin being a better leader than Obama. Putin is a thug and I am sure that Trump feels the same way. Trump never said he was friends with Putin, regardless of your side's perverting what someone says.

If you don't like Trump, then you should have gotten out and found a viable candidate for your side, instead of scumbag Hillary. And your candidate should not have run on Obie's record, intending to continue it. Obama lost as much as Hillary. And if you don't realize that Soros is more dangerous than Putin then you are just as retarded as you sound. Now, it is too late for you to correct what you on the left failed at, attempting to elect a corrupt scumbag. So, pull up your man pants and quit crying like a spoiled baby.

I think I give up honestly.

Bow to Trump is the answer.

You have NEVER mentioned once his lack of criticism for a punk killer in Russia, nor he criticism PUBLICLY for his own country.

Speaking to just this forum..

I have seen no posts even attempting to delegitimize his victory.. posts who mention that are from those that support Trump. It is like an echo chamber of Trumps comments.

With each post, you seem to just take Trumps thoughts and deftly change the words a bit.

You have no concerns for his established Russian ties..none. Amazing how your entire thought process changed about association and character in 8 years.

You will agree with him under all circumstances...as he said he could shoot someone in the street and his followers would make an excuse.

What a crybaby! Go play with your bunny in your safe room.

When I first got here, I thought maybe RubiTheCon was being facetious or just playing with people when he constantly made things up and acted like everyone should believe him...just because he said it. :oops:

Many months later, it is painfully obvious by his cut/paste plagiarism, lack of citations/links and willingness to believe wholly any fake news site...that he's really just kinda dumb.

He tries to hide it by long-winded posts, but it's easily deduced that he's either unwilling, or unable...to discern the truth and facts.

Regardless of the reason, I do get a big chuckle when he goes off and spouts things that he hasn't a clue about.

So there is, at least...the entertainment factor to consider. :D







Nailed him again! :BigApplause:

I predict a quick pivot or another ignorant statement from him...totally devoid of citations/links, facts or the truth. :ohdear:

Thank you for the example, as always. When have you ever initiated a new subject or even commented on THE SUBJECT? Never. Always your prissy little girly slaps and finger nail scratching of other posters.

Try discussing something instead of instigating a fagot slap fight, sister.

Are you trying to compete with RubiTheCon...for being the top entertainment factor? :1rotfl:

I provide more actual citations/links/facts, from legitimate sources, in a week...than you have since I got here 9 months ago. :oops:

Having the courage to make yourself look so stupid...certainly brightens the day however. :D

Prove it, Can't No Mo. Quit squealing like a sissy and do it. You are a troll, and trolls don't discuss, they irritate like the little worms they are.

You are consistent in your manifestation of your girly immaturity.

Lets look at what a troll is by defninition...

"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement."

Internet troll - Wikipedia

THAT fits you to a tee, except for the embarassing total lack of knowledge.

Rubicon at least has the ability to sound as if he really is interested in dialogue, thus in looking at this objectively, YOU are indeed the shining example of a troll.....congratulations ?

Thanks for your well thought out, fact filled response.

Hey, by the way, can you lead me to that link on the hacked Trump taxes you were talking about earlier ? I just want some indication of where you search for anything.

Try to follow along on the thread. If it is too difficult, go back to the High School forums where they can teach you how.

I'm sorry if you do not know how to Google Trumps tax return leak to the paper. How do you suppose anyone found out that Trump took a loss on his taxes that can stretch out for several years? It's really not that difficult, if you set your mind to it.

So, did you get your identity mixed up or are you replying for Can't No Mo, today?

Lets discuss this part of your post. You seldom respond to any direct questions, preferring your expertise in double talk to respond....this from your post...

"I did vote for Trump, not because of Trump, but because I rejected the social justice warriors (SJW) who were turning this nation into a hedonistic socialist nation and who were/are so intent on their agenda that they would create anarchy."



Ok....having said that, and knowing what you have said in the past about "conservative values"...."budget controls", etc...is this the kind of stuff you support ?

"Experts at the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center estimate that Trump's tax proposals alone could add as much as $7.2 trillion to the deficit in the coming decade. Even-more-conservative estimates, such as those produced by the right-leaning Tax Foundation, concluded that Trump's tax proposals would create at least a $4.4 trillion budget hole in the same time frame."



Republicans embrace building of Mexico border wall, despite cost - Baltimore Sun

This is from an article on the "wall" at the border........and this of course

"There is no reliable price tag on building a border wall, but Trump has estimated the cost at $8 billion. Recent congressional legislation pegged the number at $10 billion, and construction experts say it could be more than double that.

The wall is one part of a massive spending strategy at the core of Trump's populist agenda. Trump has not provided extensive details on how he plans to follow through on vows such as overhauling the tax code, repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act, and executing a sprawling infrastructure program. But each of those proposals carries an exorbitant price tag, and experts say that combined, they could add trillions of dollars to the deficit."

Is this the conservative route you endorse him for ?

It does not even come close to my Republican party.

NOW even though I was a devout opponent of Obama care and very stridently so, the Republican party is tripping under Trumps leadership (basically he agrees with the last person he spoke to) he and the party are about to screw that up....

"The announcement comes as a growing number of Republican senators are expressing unease with the plan to move forward with repeal without a replacement plan immediately available. Sens. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) have also expressed reservations. If Trump comes out against repeal without a replacement, it could kill the plan's chances in Congress."

BUT the last person that Trump spoke to was Rand Paul...

"Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Friday that President-elect Donald Trump agrees with his proposal to repeal and replace ObamaCare at the same time, rather than roll back the law with no plan to move forward.

“I just spoke to @realDonaldTrump and he fully supports my plan to replace Obamacare the same day we repeal it. The time to act is now.” Paul tweeted."

Rand Paul: Trump backs plan to repeal and replace ObamaCare simultaneously | TheHill

Which policies and issues brought you to the feet of Trump ? What made you embrace a dishonest man who has backed off almost everything he said during the campaign.

You asked this question in your post with these words...

"So what's a voter to do when a politician looks you straight in the eye telling an untruth? What some do is take a step back and look at the bigger picture to see what is motivating the moving party."

WELL, for me individually I looked at the character of the man to determine if I could trust him. I read about what his proposals actually were when finally he made some public, and dismissed all the stupid rhetoric and stand up routines he was presenting. I weighed all the things said about him and the charges and investigated them.

As a party, as you allude to, most of them ran away from him and stayed away until he won and their future had to be tied to them..that is politics and all your diatribes will not change that and neither will Trump.

So, those who did not investigate as I and others did, got all caught up in hate so they ignored ALL the signs about this person....just ignored them.

So as you see this developing, as you see him do exactly what his opponents said he would do, you still believe in him and you do not crack in your support, which is 180 degrees from the principles that you espoused on here before.

The one thing we agree on is how politics is. Not pretty and never much has been. This is one reason, Trump being the real mover, that I left the Republican party and am now a registered Independent. I am issue driven anyway, and will vote how I should have been doing in the past.

Rockface - you are a dinosaur my friend (hence the nickname)...the guy that represents your views was defeated in 2008 and 2012. The old Republicans are almost just as much out of touch with the voters as the dems. The Republicans would have lost without Trump. Give to change, or quietly step aside.

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If swayed by TRUTH, I gladly step aside.

If confronted with LIES, I do not step aside.

If shown he actually cared about my country, since he has done nothing in his life for this country, I step aside.

You do not know my views as posters on this forum choose not to discuss views in issues. You have reduced the conversation to attacking and avoiding issues.

I do know that the Republican Party used to stand for responsible fiscal policies.....they seem to have lost that

They used to stand for striping morals and character. The leader of the party has a history of factual non moral, illicit, lying, illegal behavior, and he brags about how YOU believe whatever he says.

So...I can take him being obnoxious, but have seen nothing at all to show me he cares about anything but himself.

KellyAnn Conway saying "stop trying to 'delegitimize' Trump victory" is too comical. Where was she when Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Pres Obama by questioning his birthplace? Trump and his team can sure dish it out but can't take it.

Trump will have his chance soon enough when some Muslim organization, which he has been mocking for two years, plans their first terrorist attack. They are chomping at the bit for him to be sworn in.

Then Trump can decide who he wants to listen to, the intel community or Jullian Assange.

I can't wait for him to be sworn in either. :thumbup:

Watching his 140 character public meltdowns go into overdrive...will be quite the show. :popcorn:

And it is going to be a treat to see you entertain us with your repetitious rants and assaults, TROLL. You have never contributed anywhere on this whole website. All your other posts are just rants, never a fact to base your opinion upon. But, the more you squirm and sweat, the more entertaining it is to watch your prissy, hissy fits. I bet it difficult to type with your bent wrists.

Isn't losing a bit*h? But, stay on Twitter and keep an eye on your man crush, Trump. I'll be laughing at the thought of you weeping.

Have a great evening, Can't do NO MO.

Oh goodness, did I hurt your wittle bitty feewings? :1rotfl:

YOU are one of the biggest trolls here...TROLL.

You've never had an original thought in your life and are even embarrassed/ashamed...to cite/link to whomever gave you your latest harebrained talking points. :ohdear:

That's OK though, because we both know that I'm living in your head rent free...and that I own you. :D

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I start new threads almost daily, WITH links. What have you EVER contributed. NADA.

Nice try sissy girl.

So you equate the hacking by the russians to trumps tax form, which wasn't hacked a copy was sent to the newspaper, and trumps conversation, which was in the public, as being on the same level. I'm glad your not in our intelligent agency.

Starting a thread (even with a link) that you've received from some fake news site or right-wing e-mail, then being unable to provide your own observation/opinion without citations/links...simply proves my point that you've never had an original thought. :1rotfl:

Any ignorant twit can scroll through the fake news sites, start a thread...and then fail to provide an original thought or observation.

The fact that you actually believe that your chicken$hit actions constitutes a 'contribution'...is the same screwed up logic that thinks Chumps hit & run Twitter diatribes shows leadership. :oops:

Trump is nothing but a sucker-punching bully, who is afraid to answer questions...and runs off like the coward that he is.

And he's your hero?

Figures. :wave:

To be a part of an 'intelligent agency' would require one to have a modicum of intelligence and be able to form an original opinion...based on at least some facts or truth.

MLGBT fails on all accounts. :D

Good to see you are still here.

Hope you got your tin foil cap on tight today!