California murder convict becomes first U.S. inmate to have state-funded sex reassign
 

California murder convict becomes first U.S. inmate to have state-funded sex reassignment surgery - LA Times

Really? WTF are we becoming?

Exactly. The social justice warrior(SJW) campaign is simply inane and insane. Why do some people in power over reach on every issue.

What would these SJW say or do about a person that identifies with being Napoleon? I suppose buy him a uniform and a haircut and have him pose for a portrait so that he could show his friends its true.

I agree and would support taxpayer money to assist people with mental health and disability issues but they would also have to revamp the mental/medical health laws that hamper family support, etc.

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We should subsidize sex changes for ALL murderers and sex offenders. Make it mandatory and do it like you would when you castrate hogs. If the left refuses to execute murderers and rapists, then take away their manhood and leave them in with the general population of the pen. What's next, are the libtards going to supply them with makeup and pantyhose?

Didn't read the story?

"It also prompted a federal magistrate to require California to provide transgender female inmates housed in men's facilities with more female-oriented items such as nightgowns, scarves and necklaces."

The prison supplies them with nightgowns and jewelry, so they can feel "feminine".

I know what they can use the scarves for...it goes around the neck too.

$100,000 so some murdering queer can feel good about himself.

Just more positive proof libturdism is a disease!

Gender confusion is just a fad for those with a mental disorder. Of course, if they are in jail they are most likely mentally disturbed anyway. Just more interest being generated for deviant behavior. And another reason to legalize post-natal abortion.

California - The land of the fruits and nuts...

Biggest problem I see, is the reporter is biased, and / or , written a column in a way to gain support for the measure. Here the director of Transgender Law is quoted as though he is a medical expert:

“For too long, institutions have ignored doctors and casually dismissed medically necessary and life-saving care for transgender people just because of who we are,” said Kris Hayashi, executive director of the Transgender Law Center, which represents Quine and other transgender inmates.

Followed up with a non professional quote from his daughter...why are there no quotes from any professional that does not share the director of Transgender Law Centers view??

Goes on to quote the corrections spokesperson claiming the 8th amendment of the US constitution was worded differently than what it actually is. The 8th amendment states: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted
It does not state: that prisons provide inmates with medically necessary treatment for medical and mental health conditions including inmates diagnosed with gender dysphoria.

Then in an attempt to justify costs (besides the director of Transgender law center claim that costs were exaggerated), the reporter throws this in as the closer: A portion of the state's expense generally is reimbursed by the federal government, Hayhoe said. The percentage varies depending on individual circumstances, but it can cover up to 95% of allowable charges.

Well that makes it seem less expensive for the residents of the state, because everyone in the country is chipping in for this nutjobs surgery...

AND; Why do they care if a person that is serving a life sentence for MURDER, tries to kill himself (5 times supposedly)?

when do we get back to the intent of being found guilty, incarcerated for punishment.

8X8 cell, potty in the corner, 3 meal a day and that is it.

All the other bs perks like television, tennis courts, special surgeries and all the other bleeding heart perks only reflect the mentality of the organization. In this case as with other wierdo cases is in CA.

Give them a pick and a shovel and put them to work fixing the most terrible highway system in the country.

They are entitled to no more. What part of punishment did CA wacko/wierdo politicians lose track of?

Life Saving???? Exactly what would be our loss? People with that kind of mental problem are of no use anyway and should be ignored. If they die because of their gender confusion, then it is no loss to the normal people. There are enough REAL handicapped that are functional and deserving of our help than these mentally disturbed people. So, I say let them die and hope they do it quickly.

As a matter of fact, why are murderers allow to live anyway? They should be executed, not coddled.

While I am absolutely supportive of stopping the hatred and violence toward transgender people shown by a majority of the ignorant neanderthals types we see down here in the PF...this is actually too far.

A person serving life (or any other sentence for that matter) in prison...should not be able to have taxpayers pay for it.

Medical care?

Yes.

Sex reassignment?

No.

Why ANY medical care for life sentences...doesn't it say, "until the end of your natural life" in there when they sentence them to life with no parole?

Getting sick and dying IS part of nature...medical care isn't nature, it's man. It would say..."until the end of your life"...period...no descriptor. We're not supposed to be saving them just so they can die later. Let them go...naturally.

This is as crazy as free healthcare for the poor. We pay them to live...housing, food, necessities like cell phone and cable TV...and now we're giving them free healthcare so we can pay for them to live longer? On our dime?

:agree:

I would have never believed you and I could agree on anything...

Where the fu(k is PF? Is that short for Pussyville, Florida??

Does seem to be going way too far with respect to using tax payer dollars. Here's another case. You can see the variety of opinions. What if one of this person's victim family members had similar desires to get a sex change. They could not get it. But if you are in prison for murdering someone, you should. That seems quite wrong.

Michelle Kosilek - Wikipedia

Yet more evidence that liberalism, especially of the type practiced in Alt-California, is a genuine mental illness

And I would never have believed you were capable of being smart...even for a brief period.




I knew it was too good to last. :oops:

PF = Political Forum (where you spew your racism)...and are right now. :ohdear:

Thanks for posting that. How do these people get false identifiers for their avatars like DirtBag? I do not remember that name anywhere on the regular TOTV boards.

This is not unique
 

I recall a TV show, perhaps on the History Channel where they discussed medical care EXPENDED to keep people on death row alive. I recall one receiving a HEART TRANSPLANT.
A guess that is HALF A MILLION dollars in medical expense to keep a person alive so that the state can kill him.
Perhaps, even more important, SOMEONE ELSE NOT ON DEATH ROW DIED BECAUSE THAT HEART WAS NOT AVAILABLE.
In China prisoners who EARN the death penalty are shot. Thus they can AND DO harvest organs for transplant. Lethal injections makes the organs useless for tranplant.

I DO NOT HAVE ANSWERS ONLY QUESTIONS.

His user name is actually dirtbanker, but my nickname for him...is much more accurate. :D

This is exactly why I disagreed with the Supreme Courts ruling on same sex marriage, etc because it was going to open panadora's box ..... and this is just the beginning. Every available media outlet is replete with theme's of homosexuality because it was their agenda to promote this lifestyle using their friends in Hollywood and by repeating this theme people would come to believe it is normal and then it is easily socialized. Kids in school are being brain washed with this same agenda. and its why Podesta, et all were fought to be pushing an anti-Catholic, anti religious theme. it all ties together.

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What you suggest has been done in the past
 

Churches have produced and featured choruses of CASTRATA recently enough so that there are recordings of them. In days of old and knights were bold, there were male servants some where they cut of the ***** so that you could trust them with your wife but others were castrated so they could service your wife but not produce any offspring. As recently as WWII they had forcefully sterilized blacks on welfare that got pregnant.

I AM NOT A LIBERAL. I DO HOPE I DRAW THE LINE LONG BEFORE YOU SEEM TO.

Oh, come on Pussyville was funny - you thought it was racism? I guess your a little confused on who lives in Pussyville...

Wrong again. :D

Your racism is based on your constant use of the 'N' word, other racist posts... and your bromance with Don Baldwin. :wave:

It is what it is, so why aren't you willing to acknowledge it?

Grab a hanky and change your pampers. You are with the adults now. Quit your crying.

When it comes to murderers and rapists, I draw the line only at their execution. On the other hand, I would probably be amenable to allow for organ transplants from their dead bodies. Only if you can guarantee that they are disease free.

They've been doing the same brainwashing with "equality" since the 60s. They just keep repeating the same lies over and over until everyone just accepts it as fact. Anyone who is truly equal doesn't need a quota. They don't need quotas for blacks in the NBA or NFL, nor boxing. If there IS racism...why is that? We could fill sports with just white guys...but we don't. We go by merit.

We should be doing it now. The world doesn't need another black baby...there are too many already...you can't give them away. I've said for years...if you're on welfare...Norplant...no more kids while you're too poor to take care of the ones you've got.

Why should WE be forbidden to use a word they use very often themselves to describe each other? It's a common greeting..."Yo N!@@3r, what's up?" or a put down..."Yo n!@@3r, WTF is wrong with you?"

Why am I FORBIDDEN to use a word they themselves use? Would a woman call another woman a (unt and then expect a man not to? Or a man call another man a ******* but a woman can't?

IF YOU use a word, you can't expect others not to too. If YOU don't want to hear that word from me, then I better not hear it from you because that's...being a hypocrite.

Probably not...they don't even accept blood if you've spent much time in jail.

They have no sense of humor. It was slightly funny, in a warped way. If Obie would have said that, they would be twittering all over the internet about how funny and great he is. Careful, they are so fragile that they will break if you are not careful.

Although you're such an ignorant, flaming racist that I realize you can't comprehend...there are a number of reasons it's different when whites use that word.

The first of course is the fact that dating back to slavery, the 'N' word has been used by white people, as a dominant social class, to keep black people in their place of relative servitude, segregation, and squalor. Slavery is indeed over, and so is legal segregation, but the ideology and thoughts behind that word haven’t gone away—it’s still an indicator that white trash like yourself...think that black lives are inferior and worthless.

Blacks have tried to mitigate the horrid history of this putrid word that has caused so much misery, by reclaiming it...so as to minimize its damage.

But like I said, I don't expect you, of all people...to even have close to the intelligence to understand. :ohdear:

If those in power really wanted to be compassionate they should provide both active and sensible mental health programs. This group of people are the most ignored and misunderstood and ridiculed.

I read two separate accounts from two different psychiatrist who specialized in trans gender issues. In both cases they cautioned against sex change operations stating that in most cases the patient regretted their decisions . why? because the issue was a confused mental state and that is where the treatment needed to be. Is a person who is confused by his/her sex any different than a person who is confused as to whether he is Napoleon of God ? Shouldn't the objective be to walk them through and out of this confusion?

I am not upset with mental health patient I am upset with people in our society who acquiesce to such stupidty in the legitimate and needed treatment these people require.

Personal Best Regards:

They ARE inferior and worthless...show me where they ARE equal...show me the benefit they provide to society.

So...white people "denigrate" them by calling them
stupid n!@@3rs and they decide to make themselves "feel better" by calling themselves the SAME thing? By using that word MUCH more than the whites do? Every other word out of their mouth is n!@@3r or f@@k.

I don't expect you to get past the lifetime of brainwashing you've received and see them for what EVERYONE saw them before the great "civil rights" fraud.

If you have a physical disease, people will bend over backwards for you...if you have a mental disease...you're shunned.

I agree, homosexuality IS a mental disorder despite it being taken out of the DSM.

Liberalism needs to be added next.

A very civil way to say this. :thumbup: