Cutting Government Spending
 

Like any great corporate executive the plan will be to "downsize" and "rightsize" the business. This consists of eliminating jobs through firings, layoffs and retirements. After this is accomplished the remaining employees will be overworked. The increased savings are passed on to the owners. In this case the U.S. citizens are the owners.
Anyone leaving the workplace in the last 20 years is familiar with the process. Just "Making America Great Again".

No matter how one chooses to cut it or name it, the process has to do with bringing the business or operation expenses back to where it is a viable/profitable entity.

It almost always includes headcount reductions or job eliminations as wages and salaries are always the biggest category of spending. And always the area of the business that most management is reluctant to take action upon.....they all want to be good guys and not send Johhny or Suzie or mommy or daddy home.......when it is the right thing to do to save the business.

The government is the worst. They are allowed to opearate at a negative profitability or over budget or at a loss. As a result there are ALWAYS more people on the payroll than they can afford.

Are you able to write checks you do not have funds to cover with? Well the government does not operate that way. They continue to spend; adding people; not cutting programs; there is no accountability or responsibility for overspending....NONE.

Like it or not if making America great again means eliminating that which does not work or eliminating that which they cannot afford or eliminating people and programs to make America "profitable/viable" again....then let them have at it a chop away.

Just like we all have to do at home to balance our check book.

and then top it off by cutting taxes on the very rich, fix our bridges and roads, oh btw, how will we pay for this, I know, I know, the middle class will pay and pay!

Actually the middle class is not paying for this, our children and grandchildren are. Trump is promising more of the same. We need a balanced budget amendment. As long as politicians can spend without paying this will continue until we crash. I believe that will be sooner rather than later.

High-income Americans pay most income taxes, but enough to be 'fair'? | Pew Research Center

Check the chart about halfway down on the right labeled who pays the most taxes......

Explain to me what is bad about cutting totally useless programs that benefits no one except the one who got it passed. We really need to know how shrimp mate (at taxpayer expense)???

Keep jobs for those that are actually already doing the work and eliminate the slackers. Believe me, we had plenty in the government contracted company where I worked. I have seen it first-hand. We had one guy who used to walk around with a paint bucket in his hand all day. Took time out for breaks and lunch. First in line to clock out. Never, ever saw him applying paint to anything! One of our clerks would go through the in basket and take all the easy tasks for herself, leaving the harder jobs for the rest of us. If an emergency job came in, before the supervisor could get it assigned, she magically was in the restroom, hand-delivering finished work, etc. I could go on and on, but you should get the picture by now.

Some like Boeing think that just because it is for the government, that it is an open checkbook. Trump is trying to monitor those checkbooks and rein in the unchecked spending. Why is that a problem?

My daughter was an unpaid fellow for two years with the Federal Government. She traveled with a Diplomatic passport and some times an armed escort. She was an expert in her field. The majority of the employees she work with were excellent but there were a number that in her opinion were not compent in the area they worked in. Reassigning or firing a mismatched employee seems to be hard and hiring compent employees can also be difficult as there are a number of rules that do not apply to competency that you have to consider in making the hiring decision. Hopefully the rules will change to allow for the termination of employees that are not adequately performing and to hire the best qualified employee for the job.

If we are to regain our position of number one in the world we are going to have to get the diversity measuring bar OFF THE FLOOR!!!!!

Women and minorities...pretty much worthless as employees.

Affirmative action and quotas...THAT is what ruined us and needs to end. THAT is why there are incompetent people working in government. We carry 20% dead wood because of "diversity".

We've dropped to #25...it's going to be a long hard climb. And unless we start changing the demographics...it WON'T change...it'll only get worse.

NO MORE affirmative action...NO MORE quotas.

Good info. No matter how much the wealthy pays, those that pay little or none will always feel the wealthy should pay more. Many middle class earners with a family pay little to NO income tax. A family of four making about $50K a year will pay no income tax.

Ha ha ha...good one! They "borrow" over a $trillion every year. Almost 25% of the federal "budget" is borrowed money. We owe $20 trillion, over $60,000 per citizen. We're bankrupt and we're spending over a $trillion a year on welfare. Giving healthcare to people so we can keep supporting them. Like giving death row inmates life saving organ transplants so we can kill them later.

Without a RADICAL shift in policy...the country is toast.

The real ha ha ha is the fact we elect the same 435 house members that spend all this money every two years. We over pay them, inflate their worth much more than it actual is, and give them a level of respect much higher than they earn. I still say a balanced budget with all having some skin in the game is what we need. It is true 47 percent of us do not pay federal income taxes and many get a refund of taxes they didn't pay. Why would that 47% ever vote for any kind of austerity measure?

Completely agree. The proper "fair tax" sales tax, would have everyone paying their fair share. And the rich do spend a lot of money so no one would be able to complain.

Let me help you out here.

That 47% you speak of, doesn't pay 'personal income tax'...but they certainly pay taxes. :oops:

IN FACT, they pay a MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE of their income to taxes, both federal and state through payroll/Social Security/gas/sales/etc./etc.)...than you probably do.

Forbes Welcome
So please, stop spreading these right-wing lies.

Thank you and deepest regards & wishes. :ho:

Twist it all you wish but he/she said that they are paying NO FEDERAL INCOME TAX. That's really not too hard to understand, even if you do insist on twisting it to your agenda. Payroll taxes for SS and Medicare is not included in Federal INCOME taxes in this conversation.

Let me add a little more to it. A family of four making middle income wages of about $50K per year will pay NO Federal Income tax.

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Gawd, facts really, really pi$$ you off...don't they? :wave:

Yes...we KEEP electing the same old corrupt trash...Ds and Rs...I don't know why, but we as a people, can't seem to stop doing it. We're voting for our own demise. We vote for crooks who steal from us for their friends.

WHAT will you cut? Defense? SS and medicare for people who contributed to society all their lives? Or welfare? Welfare is a cool $trillion a year. Going to what? Hungry violent mouths who hate us because we're better than they are?

They DO pay taxes...everything they buy has been taxed at every level of production. Sometimes half the price of an item is tax. They don't pay income tax because they don't make enough to meet the minimum level to be taxed.

Yes they do...you are correct. Everyone who shops and buys things pay tax. Utilities charge tax. Pretty much everything is taxed.

BUT they DON'T pay a whole class of taxes...income taxes. Because as I said earlier...they don't make the minimum income to be taxed. They USE tax dollars...they're a net DRAIN on the economy because they don't contribute as mush as those who DO pay income tax...and they're more likely to be using "free" government services and welfare.

You have A fact correct, but you fail to interpret it correctly. YOU are the one being disingenuous and misleading. Implying they pay "equally" as far as paying taxes is concerned, when they do not. They pay SOME taxes...but not as much as a typical white family who IS saddled with paying income tax.

She does twist it. They pay SOME tax but not ALL that a typical white family would. Income tax can be many thousands per year. It's funny how ALL it does is pay the interest on the $20 trillion debt.

No...your interpreting facts wrong does.

No, TROLLS amuse me. For a minute there, I thought you might even be interested in an honest discussion. I was mistaken, because you were just attempting to bait someone in to get attention.

Yeah, yeah, I get it. :oops:

Posting actual facts and proof to dispute innuendo and lies...is nothing but being a 'troll' in your mind. ;)

You're just gonna have to learn to live with the embarrassment. :D

And when I do it to you...you call me a racist.

Wrong again (unt!

It is you that has the problem with facts. You seldom provide any fact to back your claims up, you feel your opinion and emoji is all that is needed to substantiate your opinions. When you have been proven wrong, and that has happened many times, you try to twist words around and bully others into submission.

Pathetic...must have been picked on quite a bit growing up...

Let me know when you come up with some actual facts. I am interested, if you can get past all your childish petulance. Generally, I try to avoid fighting with females.

Good idea...how do you argue with "feelings"? They "feel" it should be a certain way...so they believe it IS that way. They'll argue and argue with no logic whatsoever. Sometimes my jaw literally drops when I hear a woman "reason" something out.

I hear NOTHING about our trillions deficit from President elect. I hear a lot about more spending and less taxes for the rich. Go figure.

Meet the new boss...same as the old boss...I told you this is what would happen. He'll borrow and spend like a mad man...to "fix" things.

I worked for the Feds for over 30 years, your examples are not the norm.

Since you say you were a govt contractor or worked for them I can tell you first hand that the government contractors come to work for the fed agency, get trained by the gov workers, then get paid on most cases 2X or 3X the amount for doing the same job, then after a couple years when the contract expires the contractor hikes his prices, is undercut, and the process is repeated. This happened over and over and over, especially in the IT field.

You are confusing what I wrote. There is a difference between payroll taxes you mention and federal income tax I was speaking to. They are very different. I still say too many voters do not have any skin in the game and could care less about reducing government spending. My guess is an earned income check is more than most of these people pay in social security and medicare combined.

I didn't "confuse" anything.

I purposely eviscerated your argument. :D

Of course you only wanted to talk about personal income tax, because it blows the prejudiced, bigoted, narrow-minded and outright wrong narrative...if you include ALL taxes. :oops:

Sorry to ruin your day. :wave: