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Guest 07-05-2009 09:38 AM

Does anybody really think Sarah Palin would be a good president.
 
Be honest now!

Please, don't compare her to present or past presidents? Answer the question on its own merits.

Guest 07-05-2009 09:51 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212849)
Be honest now!

Please, don't compare her to present or past presidents. Answer the question on its own merits.

Sounds like your question is slanted against her. How about this for the question. How many people think Mrs. Palin would make a great President? I find that the poll takers can influence the polls by how they arrange the questions.

Guest 07-05-2009 10:44 AM

My question is not slanted against her, where as your question is slanted in her favor. If you are unable to answer my question honestly, please don't change it to suit yourself.

Guest 07-05-2009 10:58 AM

That question will make the fur fly
 
Honestly, I do think she would be a good president (definitely better than Bush), but I will never be able to convince those that don't like her that she would be a good president. If the economy crumbles from the democratic social spending, she will be elected in 2012. No other conservatives other than loud Rush have the conservative notoriety to push the conservative economic agenda if the economy tanks. If the economy does not tank in the next 3 years, Democrats will be in power for 25 years and they will have earned that right. I was raised in a conservative Democratic family. I hope Democrats can save the economic future of this country but I sincerely doubt it. Their economic policies have leaned too far left.
Jim
Fair and unbalanced(according to my wife) and ready to get blasted.

Guest 07-05-2009 11:02 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212863)
My question is not slanted against her. If you are unable to answer my question honestly, please don't change it to suit yourself.

Maybe my bad.


Does anybody really think Sarah Palin would be a good president
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I have read that question a few times and....How does this sound?

Does anybody really think Obama is a good president?
Ok..This is my spin:
I believe that the most important quality of being a president is judging people. I believe the people he chooses to surround himself is the foundation of a good or bad Cabinet. President Reagan had the quality to pick the right people for the right job. He knew how to designate.
A good example...President Bush decided to choose a different General and a different strategy for the Iraq War. It worked.
Obama seemed to pick candidates that were tax cheats. Maybe a character issue?

Guest 07-05-2009 11:10 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212867)
Maybe my bad.


Does anybody really think Sarah Palin would be a good president
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I have read that question a few times and....How does this sound?

Does anybody really think Obama is a good president?
Ok..This is my spin:
I believe that the most important quality of being a president is judging people. I believe the people he chooses to surround himself is the foundation of a good or bad Cabinet. President Reagan had the quality to pick the right people for the right job. He knew how to designate.
A good example...President Bush decided to choose a different General and a different strategy for the Iraq War. It worked.
Obama seemed to pick candidates that were tax cheats. Maybe a character issue?

I asked that she not be compared to current or past presidents. Can you answer my question?

Guest 07-05-2009 11:26 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212869)
I asked that she not be compared to current or past presidents. Can you answer my question?

Sorry...Didn't mean to compare......I think she would make an excellent President because she has the qualities that I admire to make the right decisions and surround herself with the right people.

Guest 07-05-2009 12:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212849)
Be honest now!

Please, don't compare her to present or past presidents. Answer the question on its own merits.

Semantics/grammar are important.

There was no question, such as Would Sarah Palin be a good president? Instead, there was a statement, Does anybody really think Sarah Palin would be a good president. with no question mark and followed by: Be honest now! Please, don't compare her to present or past presidents. Answer the question on its own merits.

The "anybody really think" and the rest of the post is indeed a negative slant, whether intentional or not.

In spite of it all, I'm one of those "anybody" folk who think she'd be as good as any of the pseudo-royalty types who claim the presidency as a birthright or believe their public speaking skills and TV image justify a vote. Personal castigation of anyone based on gender, religion and race - and taking cheap potshots at one's children - should be long-gone from the political scene, but seems to creep back into the fray when candidates lack the public speaking skills of a John Barrymore, the salesmanship of a community organizer, or when the party decides ]the end justifies the means.

Would Ms. Palin be a better president than the current 2nd-in-line for the office (Ms. Pelosi) - any day of the week!

Guest 07-05-2009 12:07 PM

No, I Don't
 
I don't think she'd make a "good" President and certainly wouldn't be a "great" President. She simply does not have the education or experience to be the chief executive of arguably the most important country in the world. I seriously wonder who she might surround herself with in forming an administration. She has been wildly popular because of her pithy campaign statements and her "everyman" appeal, but I believe her ability to lead would erode very quickly were she elected. I'd also guess that she would have no real respect among other world leaders. There simply has to be a more experienced candidate who has demonstrated his/her ability to understand the policy decisions facing the country, who might be expected to assemble an administration from among people he/she knew personally and could have confidence in, and have demonstrated true leadership ability--not just mass popularity--either in government or the private sector.

Ask yourself the question: is it likely that she would be qualified to be the CEO of any of the world's largest companies? The answer is obvious, and if she wouldn't qualify for any of those jobs, how would she be qualified for POTUS?

If the GOP can't find a candidate that satisfies most of all of those criteria, the two-party system is in a lot more trouble than we think it is.

Again, don't respond with an assessment of any of the recent POTUS--Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush or Obama. The question posed by Talk Host was forward-looking and doesn't call for a recitation of opinions about past Presidents.

Guest 07-05-2009 12:23 PM

Chief Executive... State of Alaska..Case closed.

Guest 07-05-2009 12:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212881)
She simply does not have the education or experience to be the chief executive of arguably the most important country in the world.
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Ask yourself the question: is it likely that she would be qualified to be the CEO of any of the world's largest companies? The answer is obvious, and if she wouldn't qualify for any of those jobs, how would she be qualified for POTUS

And what is the correct "education and experience" to be POTUS?

Would the current POTUS be qualified to serve as CEO of a Fortune 100? If so, which one would have him?

She is definitely "of the people" and appears street-smart to the nth degree. Folk like that normally know their strengths and limitations, and tend to surround themselves with the most competent as a learned survival skill or they don't survive too long.

Guest 07-05-2009 12:40 PM

1) Palin elected twice to city council
2) Served 2- 3year terms as Mayor of Wasilla(1996-2002)
3)Chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission.
4) Elected Governor of Alaska.

Sorry, no community organizing on her resume.:o

Guest 07-05-2009 12:48 PM

A CEO comparison isn't a good gage based on the incumbents
 
that hold office in Washington today. NONE ARE QUALIFIED but managed to get elected or re-elected.

Sarah Palin has the capability to be a POTUS in training, just as the current and preceding ones have.
She has the quality of spontaneity that most politicians lack or do not employ...which means a more realistic answer would be forth coming. Those who ponder, evaluate, think too much are weighing the audience and determining what they think wants to be heard. Yes, with spontaneous answers comes, gaffs and possible mistakes....but they are usually real.

Her term as a Governor certainly provides more qualification than Hollywood or the legal education system.

She is certainly as believable as any of the incumbents in any position in Washington, DC.

A definite plus is that she is not a Washington insider.

And employing the advice that is especially applicable to the current POTUS...watch what she does not what she says.....she has much better qualification in that regard.

And lastly I conclude that since she did not turn the state of Alaska into a free money spending socialist state, she would take that same value to the WH.

As demonstrated by way too many prior POTUS and lawmakers.....education really does not show much result in the scheme of things.

btk

She would not be my first choice, but if nominated I would vote for her.

Guest 07-05-2009 12:49 PM

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She simply does not have the education or experience to be the chief executive of arguably the most important country in the world.
And Obama does? Oh Please.

Would she make a great President? No. Would be make a great VP. Yes.

After that, we'd have to see and judge her on performance.

Guest 07-05-2009 01:20 PM

Ms. Palin
 
C'mon folks if she looked like Madeline Albright instead of the way she does you wouldn't give her the right time of day.

Guest 07-05-2009 01:28 PM

Makes you Wonder
 
Since the conversation has drifted to CEO's, I find it amazing that Romney has been slighted be the mainstream. Or maybe it is his credentials that has the MSM running scared.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney

After reading his biography...you will wonder what this amazing man could accomplish in the White House.

Guest 07-05-2009 01:46 PM

Does anybody really think Sarah Palin would be a good president?
 
I do not believe that right now she is qualified to be President nor Vice President. However with more experience in National and World conditions, she may be ready in 2016 or 2020. For 2012 I think Pawlenty and/or Crist would be better choice.
I hope the discussions on this thread doesn't get out of hand like the other one.

Guest 07-05-2009 01:54 PM

Run, Sarah, Run
 
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07052009...run_177673.htm

YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!!

Guest 07-05-2009 02:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212894)
C'mon folks if she looked like Madeline Albright instead of the way she does you wouldn't give her the right time of day.

You re probably right for how a lot of folks vote - male and female - when it comes to the "how attractive" factor. Since John Kennedy, that's been a both-party criteria.

However, I like it when folk come from the mainstream, as opposed to the party "select" list. I'm surprised that the Democratic Party continues to look solely at the party elite and not present candidates "of the people" such as Ms. Palin. The Dems have some great "of the people" potential candidates, (such as Barbara Mikulski, Jack Reed, Jon Tester and Bobby Bright to name a few), yet the Dems keep avoiding folks like them for some reason.

Ms. Palin could have come onto the scene wearing burlap and having a "how attractive" factor akin to Minnie Pearl and still have been a hit. She's the female "Joe, the plumber" and people can identify with her, and see folk like her (and most of us) as similarly qualified for top office as any Ivy Leaguer or any party legacy-type.

We need more like her, from both the major parties, to get back to "of the people."

Guest 07-05-2009 02:28 PM

Topper, I would take Palin over Crist any day. He could be another RINO.

Guest 07-05-2009 03:09 PM

I do not believe at this time that she would make a good President. I think she needs a lot more seasoning, more experience, and less talk about seeing Russia on a clear day.

Come to think of it, how much experience did Obama bring to the floor?

Guest 07-05-2009 03:31 PM

If Crist gets the Republican nomination for Senate I'll either vote for the Democrat or not vote.

Guest 07-05-2009 03:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212884)
Chief Executive... State of Alaska..Case closed.

But she is quitting before her term is complete. Not a good sign. Case closed.

Guest 07-05-2009 04:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212913)
But she is quitting before her term is complete. Not a good sign. Case closed.

Whoopee-Doo......Plenty of senators, governors quit to run. When one window closes...another opens. Besides, she did such a good job..it will be easy for her second-in-command to finish the last year.:coolsmiley:

Guest 07-05-2009 04:36 PM

Since the name is Palin, no matter what she did or does would be
 
a good sign. The media and political trench diggers will have been out in force all weekend to oil up the propaganda machine starting afresh tomorrow.

btk

Guest 07-05-2009 05:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212913)
But she is quitting before her term is complete. Not a good sign. Case closed.

If she is going to initiate and run a campaign for another office, she's doing it the right way by quitting her job as Governor of Alaska, rather than being a part-time governor and full-time candidate. I never did like it when a politician would spend a year or so on the campaign trail (Llke Obama, Biden and McCain did) and still drew a full salary, office costs, etc. as if they were really fulfilling full-time what they were elected to do. That's just screwing the taxpayer when these folk continue to take the money and not do the job.

Guest 07-05-2009 05:19 PM

She’ll be much bigger now and can play on the national stage without constantly setting off state ethics investigations by loons, parasites and liberals. She’s too big to be a lame-duck governor stuck dealing with fishing licenses in Anchorage right now.

Guest 07-05-2009 05:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212925)
She’ll be much bigger now and can play on the national stage without constantly setting off state ethics investigations by loons, parasites and liberals. She’s too big to be a lame-duck governor stuck dealing with fishing licenses in Anchorage right now.

The irony is that Ms. Palin has been a governor (12/4/2006-07/31/2009) as long as Mr. Obama was a senator (1/4/2005-/11/6/2008, less over a year campaigning full-time to be president). Ms. Palin also had 10 years' elected time as a city official. And no one seems to be complaining that Mr. Obama was vocal when elected as senator that he would complete his term, but tossed that promise while still drawing a senate paycheck. So, double-standarding is alive and well.

Guest 07-05-2009 06:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212863)
My question is not slanted against her, where as your question is slanted in her favor. If you are unable to answer my question honestly, please don't change it to suit yourself.

Honestly, I thought that you were against Palin and would not take seriously any who would be dumb enough to think that she would be a good president.

It was in the wording.

Yoda

A member of the loyal opposition.

PS How do you judge the qualifications of a potential President without comparing to some real or imagined standard.

Based on your restrictions, I do not feel that I have the education, experience, background knowledge unmitigated Gall or inflated ego to give an honest evaluation.

Just my opinion

Good luck convincing people that you are not bias. You'll need to be more convincing,

I think she would make s more than adequate President but I don't think that she should run.

Guest 07-05-2009 06:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212913)
But she is quitting before her term is complete. Not a good sign. Case closed.

If she is running, at lease she has stepped down as Gov and not screwing the people while not doing her job.

Before you mention her VP run, she was drafted.

Yoda

A member of the loyal opposition

Guest 07-05-2009 06:57 PM

While I agree with those who feel your question was a bit skewed (how does...does anyone think that TOTV would be a good community connection..sound to you :))

I have no idea whether she would or not; as Yoda said or implied..that is above my pay grade.....we have had great and good presidents that on the surface did not appear it would be...and we have had bad presidents that appeared to be a lock.

She has not had the national platform except as a VP when, lets face it, you simply carry the banner and philosophies of the Presidential candidate.

I have no idea where she stands on most issues !

Guest 07-05-2009 07:05 PM

QQ
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 212925)
She’ll be much bigger now and can play on the national stage without constantly setting off state ethics investigations by loons, parasites and liberals. She’s too big to be a lame-duck governor stuck dealing with fishing licenses in Anchorage right now.

Dealing with fishing licenses in Anchorage.......I finally have found out what she has been doing!

Guest 07-05-2009 07:21 PM

I think she actually damaged McCain's chances of winning. More of a negative impact than a positive one, as far as I felt. So, my answer is no, I don't think she would make a good president.

Guest 07-05-2009 07:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212928)
The irony is that Ms. Palin has been a governor (12/4/2006-07/31/2009) as long as Mr. Obama was a senator (1/4/2005-/11/6/2008, less over a year campaigning full-time to be president). Ms. Palin also had 10 years' elected time as a city official. And no one seems to be complaining that Mr. Obama was vocal when elected as senator that he would complete his term, but tossed that promise while still drawing a senate paycheck. So, double-standarding is alive and well.

That is a very good point. Also, a senator's job, such as it is, doesn't enthrall the responsibilities that a governor has. It is more of an executive role as a senator only has to vote yes-no, or if he can't decide and doesn't want to take a stand he can do the coward thing like Obama did and vote "present"
Also that tired old liberal taking point of Palin bringing down McCain is an out right LIE. People forget that McCain's poll numbers shot way up after Palin got on the ticket.

Guest 07-05-2009 07:38 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212939)
I think she actually damaged McCain's chances of winning. More of a negative impact than a positive one, as far as I felt. So, my answer is no, I don't think she would make a good president.

You need to team up with Talk Host - equally biased and equally misguided. Sarah Palin had a great track record as governor of the largest state is the union. More natural resources, more diversity of climate and wildlife, more coastline, etc than any other state. Every state has its challenges, but Palin has done an exceptional job facing great challenges. One can contend that states such as CA.FL.TX present a greater challenge, but certainly no sane person would equate the task of beings a governor of such states as Delaware, Rhode Island, Vermont, Connecticut or New Hampshire to that of being Governor of Alaska.

As pointed out, she is doing the honorable thing if she intends to run for another office. McCain, Obama, Biden, Clinton etc showed no such principles. I would be much more likely to vote for her than any of the others mentioned.

Guest 07-05-2009 07:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212941)
That is a very good point. Also, a senator's job, such as it is, doesn't enthrall the responsibilities that a governor has. It is more of an executive role as a senator only has to vote yes-no, or if he can't decide and doesn't want to take a stand he can do the coward thing like Obama did and vote "present"
Also that tired old liberal taking point of Palin bringing down McCain is an out right LIE. People forget that McCain's poll numbers shot way up after Palin got on the ticket.


I stayed away from comparsion, but if you simply compare experience, Palin has it hands down over Obama. What Obama had was a machine, well oiled over years (at the expense of taxpayers..not expense as in money but in attention to his duties) !

I admit that alone is not the criteria for electing a President....but those who tout Obama as so much more experienced and qualified make a really bad point to their detrement.

Guest 07-05-2009 08:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212944)
I stayed away from comparsion, but if you simply compare experience, Palin has it hands down over Obama. What Obama had was a machine, well oiled over years (at the expense of taxpayers..not expense as in money but in attention to his duties) !

I admit that alone is not the criteria for electing a President....but those who tout Obama as so much more experienced and qualified make a really bad point to their detrement.

Another bit of irony - The last Democratic governor to be elected president came from a state with 4 times the population of Alaska, but only one-13th the geographic size of Alaska, does not border any foreign nations (Alaska borders two), nor has any coastline (Alaska's is almost 25% of USA's entire coastline).

Considering these factors, it would seem that governing Alaska is a greater challenge than Arkansas, yet the former Governor of Arkansas who was elected president has become a Democratic icon.

Guest 07-05-2009 08:43 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 212944)
I stayed away from comparsion, but if you simply compare experience, Palin has it hands down over Obama. What Obama had was a machine, well oiled over years (at the expense of taxpayers..not expense as in money but in attention to his duties) !

I admit that alone is not the criteria for electing a President....but those who tout Obama as so much more experienced and qualified make a really bad point to their detrement.

If u want to compare her with someone, compare her with Bush.
2 peas in a pod.

Guest 07-05-2009 10:08 PM

The opposition modus operendi NEVER CHANGES!!!!
 
Snipe! Snipe! Snipe! and no substance.......barf

Must be the party credo.

btk

Guest 07-05-2009 10:13 PM

Does anybody really think Sarah Palin would be a good president?

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Posted by Guest (Post 212849)
Be honest now!

Please, don't compare her to present or past presidents? Answer the question on its own merits.

NO.


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