The Keystone XL oil pipeline
 

"The Keystone XL oil pipeline does not need to be made from U.S. steel, despite an executive order by President Donald Trump days after he took office requiring domestic steel in new pipelines, the White House said on Friday."

trumpster's, are you going to hold donny's feet to the fire? He has conned you again, he doesn't hold the cards, congress does.

NEITHER hold the cards...those who run the system, the men behind the curtain, hold the cards.

Are you going to hold Congress's feet to the fire? Don't you think US steel should be used?? Instead of wasting time on here non stop whining, why don't you run for office??? Nobody can do it right, but you...

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where'd you comefrom?

OK, the president issued and executive order and you say that it doesn't have to be followed and that congress has the ultimate authority to make that decision.

We have no way of knowing whether that is true or not, but let's assume that it is. We'll find out who in congress supports US jobs and who is interested in using materials made in foreign countries.

Many of these people will be up for re-election. Do you think that this could become and issue at that time?

My guess is that close to 100% of the republicans will vote in favor of the president's order and those democrats that up for re-election and are interested in keeping their jobs will do the same.

If the president did nothing else, he is forcing congress to reveal themselves.

In two years many of those Democrats will be out of a job!

Get her done!

I agree
 

A big part of knowledge is knowing what you don't know.

I've repeatedly said this is not a sporting event-a high school basketball game. PEOPLE have an opinion. Often they have no idea what they are talking about. They want to tell the coach how to do his job.

RE: Running for office.
I for one, have no interest in running. I would not put up with people wanting to not only look up my butt but drooling to find anything I have done wrong. Unlike Clinton-I DID INHALE. Unlike Susan Molanari who admitted that she did inhale-I KNEW HER DRUG SOURCE ON STATEN ISLAND AND SHE BOUGHT MARIJUANA BY THE KILOGRAM.

There goes my political non-aspirations.

When one is going to parrot an article from the news how about using the whole story and not just the parts that make your case/agenda sound better.

The pipe not made in America is already purchased and has been sitting around waiting while Obama circle jerked the delays.....and playing it dem wise....the steel was purchased while Obama was president.

A partisan BS driven thread.

I'm glad you admit it littleman.

My guess is that it will be russian steel and trump will make a lot of money on it.

You are even too stupid to recognize sarcasm...

Littleman? I assume you meant little man?? Your old lady's hands look small when she is holding my junk...

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"Trump said as recently as last week that Keystone and the Dakota Access pipeline must use American steel "or we're not building one."

Don't let the truth get in the way, littleman.

Your hero trump and you have one thing in common, you are both perverts. littleman!

No, btm, you are wrong. Trump said it would be US steel or there would be no pipeline. Well, he lied again. The spokeswoman tried weasel words to get around it but it blatent lie there is no getting around it.

See you at church tomorrow?

Uh-oh, sounds like someone hit a nerve. Sometimes when one's shortcomings become a topic it's best to remain silent.

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Good advice, hopefully dimwitdave can follow it.

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Sandy - Trump obviously did not know dip$hit Obamma bought and paid for import steel and then put project on hold.Trump's intentions was good, but POS Obamma ruined it. Of course being a Liberal, you are ready to protest!

You won't see me in church...

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Oh, btm knows his "secret identity" has been found out and that his real identity might become known to a wide range of people that do not share his beliefs.

Guess we have seen the last of "btm" on political issues. Hmmm?

I pass. I learned long ago to not get in a pi$$ing contest with skunks!!

Hmmm? So you are OK with releasing posters real life identities?

WTF?! :22yikes:

Obama is the one that bought the steel for the Keystone pipeline?

You right-wing extremists...are almost as insane as Chump. :oops:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Can't you ever come up with an original reply, or are you mentally challenged?

Did Obama pay cash or use his credit card?

He is definitely a credit card type of guy. He did not amass 12.4 million as a 400K a year as a politician paying cash.

Keystone XL pipeline will not use U.S. steel despite Trump's vow
"The way that executive order is written," Sanders said. "It’s specific to new pipelines or those that are being repaired. Since this one is already currently under construction, the steel is already literally sitting there; it would be hard to go back."

Keystone Pipeline - Wikipedia
In March 2012, Obama endorsed the building of the southern segment (Gulf Coast Extension or Phase III) that begins in Cushing, Oklahoma. The President said in Cushing, Oklahoma, on March 22, "Today, I'm directing my administration to cut through the red tape, break through the bureaucratic hurdles, and make this project a priority, to go ahead and get it done."[55]

The pipeline came to a greater prominence of attention when a planned fourth phase, Keystone XL, attracting growing environmental protest, became a symbol of the battle over climate change and fossil fuels, and in 2015 was rejected by then President Barack Obama.

So you don't believe Obamma signed off on the 2012 bill, without specifying US steel would be used, and you don't believe Obamma put a halt to the project in 2015...

I understand the history of the pipeline.

Simply answer the question and quit trying to state things...that weren't said by me. :oops:.

Prove where, as YOU stated, "Trump obviously did not know dip$hit Obamma bought and paid for import steel." :popcorn:

As everyone can see, you just got caught lying again...and are simply trying to obfuscate. :boom:

Nice try though. ;)


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Are you sure you really want to go through that door regarding "real identities?"

I'm all for the Keystone pipeline. Who would you rather buy oil from? Canada or a middle east country?

So please enlighten us, how much of that oil will be available for domestic purchase...versus shipping out of the country?

That's right...no one knows. ;)

So, if you knew it was all being put on ships to foreign countries...would you still be so strongly for it?


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

So what !!! send it back to China !!!

Which country in the world has the largest oil reserves? I'll answer it, the United States of America. We don't need no stinking pipeline.

That pipeline is to SELL oil. Oil from Canada piped and shipped from the Gulf of Mexico to European customers.

The US has the "most" oil...only if you count oil locked up in shale...VERY expensive to get out. As for easy to get, free flowing oil...it's still SA, Venezuela, the ME countries, Russia...

I went back and read my post. My generalization of saying Obamma bought and paid for the import steel could be misleading, some would picture him standing at the home depot register with a roller cart full of steel pipeline. My post was not intended to be inaccurate, that was a mistake in my choice of wording. What I should have typed was Obamma signed off on the pipeline without specifying that US steel would be used, and thus; Obamma's lack of thought is responsible for the purchase of import steel that is stock piled along the pipeline's course.

I am curious if you would characterize your post in the "Bronze Zoo" thread (which you claimed to have made a $100 dollar donation to charity) as a blatant lie? You did not generalize any information about your act, you just purposely lied...

I don't believe China has a "hassle free return" policy like Kohls...if they did, who do you believe should pay for the shipping costs to return it to China?

Maybe your hero Obamma would spend a little of the 12.4 million he has amassed (as a 400K a year politician) to send it back???

Your argument about shale is wrong.

"Fast forward 40 years and the world has changed drastically, with booming U.S. oil production from the shale revolution creating an epic supply glut that recently sent oil prices below $30 a barrel."

After 40-year ban, U.S. starts exporting crude oil - Jan. 29, 2016

Wikipedia has the US as #10 on the list of countries oil reserves, that means your answer is WRONG...

List of countries by proven oil reserves - Wikipedia

They could sell it to private companies who buy china pipe all the time. Was the money he made illegal? If so, elaborate on it.

"U.S. Has World’s Largest Oil Reserves"

U.S. Has World’s Largest Oil Reserves | OilPrice.com

Now about Wikipedia

"The unfortunate truth is that, every day, online content becomes more and more accepted as gospel even while the quality of information declines. And Wikipedia is no exception."

Just How Accurate Is Wikipedia? | Fox Business

Taken from your usual source, Fox

Shale is not financially feasible when oil prices are low, that is why all those people in the shale oil industry were out of work when OPEC PURPOSELY drove the oil prices down. (Ethanol is also not financially feasible, when oil prices are low.)

OPEC controls the price of oil and they control their competition. Saudi's oil is more expensive because it is horizontally mined from sand, so they only lower the price long enough to drive the competition out of business and then they raise prices to make the sand mining financially feasible again.

What would you say if I told you a conglomerate formed by US oil companies used to own all the rights to Saudi's oil??