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Taltarzac725 03-09-2017 07:11 AM

I will not work together with Donald John Trump.
 
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This is where I stand. Our 45th President, his power hungry cronies taking positions of authority in his Cabinet and administration, and the majority of Republicans in Congress are a real and active threat to me, my way of life, and all the people I love. Some people are saying that we should give Trump a chance, that we should "work together" with him because he won the election and he is "everyone's president." This is my response:
•I will not forget how badly he and so many others treated former President Barack Obama for 8 years...
•I will not "work together" to privatize Medicare, cut Social Security and Medicaid.
•I will not "work together" to build a wall.
•I will not "work together" to persecute Muslims.
•I will not "work together" to shut out refugees from other countries.
•I will not "work together" to lower taxes on the 1% and increase taxes on the middle class and poor.
•I will not "work together" to help Trump use the Presidency to line his pockets and those of his family and cronies.
•I will not "work together" to weaken and demolish environmental protection.
•I will not "work together" to sell American lands, especially National Parks, to companies which then despoil those lands.
•I will not "work together" to enable the killing of whole species of animals just because they are predators, or inconvenient for a few, or because some people want to get their thrills killing them.
•I will not "work together" to remove civil rights from anyone.
•I will not "work together" to alienate countries that have been our allies for as long as I have been alive.
•I will not "work together" to slash funding for education.
•I will not "work together" to take basic assistance from people who are at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder.
•I will not "work together" to get rid of common sense regulations on guns.
•I will not "work together" to eliminate the minimum wage.
•I will not "work together" to support so-called "Right To Work" laws, or undermine, weaken or destroy Unions in any way.
•I will not "work together" to suppress scientific research, be it on climate change, fracking, or any other issue where a majority of scientists agree that Trump and his supporters are wrong on the facts.
•I will not "work together" to criminalize abortion or restrict health care for women.
•I will not "work together" to increase the number of nations that have nuclear weapons.
•I will not "work together" to put even more "big money" into politics.
•I will not "work together" to violate the Geneva Convention.
•I will not "work together" to give the Ku Klux Klan, the Nazi Party and white supremacists a seat at the table, or to normalize their hatred.
•I will not "work together" to deny health care to people who need it.
•I will not "work together" to deny medical coverage to people on the basis of a "pre-existing condition."
•I will not "work together" to increase voter suppression.
•I will not "work together" to normalize tyranny.
I will not “work together” to eliminate or reduce ethical oversite at any level of government.
•I will not "work together" with anyone who is, or admires, tyrants and dictators.
•I will not support anyone that thinks its OK to put a pipeline to transport oil on Sacred Ground for Native Americans. And, it would run under the Missouri River, which provides drinking water for millions of people. An accident waiting to happen.
This is my line, and I am drawing it.
•I WILL stand for honesty, love, respect for all living beings, and for the beating heart that is the center of Life itself.
•I WILL use my voice and my hands, to reach out to the uninformed, and to anyone who will LISTEN:
That "winning", "being great again", "rich" or even "beautiful" is nothing...
Something from Facebook. :posting::BigApplause:

MDLNB 03-09-2017 11:07 AM

Typical Anti-American traitor that does not deserve to live in our great country. Thank goodness there are not enough of people like you to totally screw up our country.

affald 03-09-2017 12:10 PM

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Typical Anti-American traitor that does not deserve to live in our great country. Thank goodness there are not enough of people like you to totally screw up our country.

See if Russia will give him his wackadoodle check.

It's funny when tal states in the regular forum, he lives with his parents in the villages in order to take care of his parents.

How can anyone, including other retard liberals, take him seriously.

dirtbanker 03-09-2017 03:21 PM

From somebody who has not worked in 17 years...and that has nothing to do with Trump!

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rubicon 03-09-2017 03:56 PM

George Soros and friends have got to be having a real belly laugh as to how easy it is to lead progressives in any direction they choose.

Old George donated $264 million toward the Day Without Women. I wonder how the women laboring under Sharia Law view that movement? I wonder how the 30 million slaves mostly women used in sex trade around the world feel about a day without women. If feminist really care about the plight of women why were they not marching on behalf of these unrepresented women?

By the way conservative women just showed up for work because they are first and foremost responsible people who recognize that their patients needed them, their students needed them their customers needed them

Personal Best Regards:

Rockyrd 03-09-2017 04:14 PM

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George Soros and friends have got to be having a real belly laugh as to how easy it is to lead progressives in any direction they choose.

Old George donated $264 million toward the Day Without Women. I wonder how the women laboring under Sharia Law view that movement? I wonder how the 30 million slaves mostly women used in sex trade around the world feel about a day without women. If feminist really care about the plight of women why were they not marching on behalf of these unrepresented women?

By the way conservative women just showed up for work because they are first and foremost responsible people who recognize that their patients needed them, their students needed them their customers needed them

Personal Best Regards:

This is simply not a thread I would normally post in, but your comments strike me.

Your TOTAL AND COMPLETE avoidance of the OP is interesting. Your ALTERING THE SUBJECT to provide you with a vehicle to attack is the norm however. We have all come to expect that kind of behavior from you.

You avoided the topic, as you yourself have lectured others about, but let me be direct to you Rubicon...

1. Are you ok with the President of the United States being renowned world wide, with validation easily available as a man who lies with great ease, and CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO TELL THE TRUTH, INCLUDING TO HIS OWN PEOPLE.?

2. Are you comfortable with your President accusing the previous President of a felony, i.e. Tapping his phones ?

I won't ask you to respond to all his lies AS PRESIDENT, but would hope that with all your preaching and since you ignored the actual subject matter, you might be man enough to reply.

Taltarzac725 03-09-2017 04:50 PM

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From somebody who has not worked in 17 years...and that has nothing to do with Trump!

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I worked for a couple of retired CIA analyst and/or realtors as a housesitter, dog sitter, garden tender, and the like from about 1997-2011 up to when the man of this couple passed away and the wife no longer needed me for their long trips abroad. And I have been working on the 224 613 Project since January of 1991 but only using those two numbers after I was subject #613 in a 17 week study on stress on the unemployed conducted by the University of California, San Francisco Health Sciences Campus. This was in late 1992-1993. The State of Nevada counted my work on this Project as payoff of my Stipend Grant for my MA in Librarianship and Information Management I got from the University of Denver in the Spring of 1984. The Stipend Grant was from the Western Interstate Commission on Higher Education. (WICHE) They made that decision in a Committee Hearing in September of 2000. I earned 24 nominations to Marquis Who's Who publications from 1992-2002 for I assume my work on this 224 613 Project. Again, I work on this Project every day. So, I am still working on something of value to some people. I did some work on this Project today. So what if no one pays me for it. The State of Nevada WICHE did.

I volunteered at two Palm Harbor, Florida libraries from 2000- 2003 for 10-14 hours a week.

I still do not trust Donald John Trump. The man is a con artist. I will see what he does but I have little confidence in what he says. The man is a pathological liar and looks mentally ill to boot.

George Bush got my vote. That is the younger George Bush. That was twice too. And I might have voted for John McCain if he had not picked Sarah Palin as a running mate. I am no fan of William Jefferson Clinton and never liked Joe Biden. Obama was a very
good President and is a very decent man.

Oh and the couple I worked for had pictures of Bush the Senior all over their house. They were very Republican.

And I saw Hillary Clinton as the lesser evil of two bad choices for President. And it looks like Donald John Trump only won because of the Anthony Weiner e-mail investigation and the FBI Director's untimely announcement concerning it.

Rockyrd 03-09-2017 05:56 PM

A President who cannot be trusted to tell the truth.

A President who leads an attack on our media

A President who wages war against his own country's intelligence community.

A President who, until he was forced to, refused to even entertain the idea that Russia attempted to influence, illegally, our election.

A President who accuses his predecessor of a felony

A President who accuses 1/2 million illegals of voting.

ALL done while President for about 6 weeks

Is this making America great ? Or does it sound like a novel speaking of a takeover.

Posters on here actually making excuses....the intelligence comminity is full of Obama type guys...not true and proven. Good patriotic Americans

Posters in here saying,..WITH ZERO EVIDENCE....that the wire trap was real, but oh..they were tapping Flynn. May be true, BUT NOT ONE WORD ABOUT A PRESIDENT ACCUSING ANOTHER OF A FELONY PUBLICALLY.

Do you people love Donald Trump more than our country ?

Rockyrd 03-09-2017 06:07 PM

It really sounds more and more like a bad novel.

How could the President be caught cold when appointing a National Security Advisor ?


"President Donald Trump was not aware that his former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, had worked to further the interests of the government of Turkey before appointing him, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Thursday.

Spicer's comments came two days after Flynn and his firm, Flynn Intel Group Inc., filed paperwork with the Justice Department formally identifying him as a foreign agent and acknowledging that his work for a company owned by a Turkish businessman could have aided Turkey's government.

Asked whether Trump knew about Flynn's work before he appointed him as national security adviser, Spicer said, "I don't believe that that was known."


White House: Trump unaware of Flynn's foreign agent work - ABC News

dirtbanker 03-09-2017 06:11 PM

I love Trump more than I love Obamma and Obamma #2 (Crooked Hillary). You want to talk about lies...how about blatant corruption too? Rockface wasted his vote on nut job Jill Stien, she was not even in the race...but here he is telling us how bad we are for not voting for Crooked Hillary, how bad we are for not wasting our vote on Jill Stien, and how bad we are because we are not rioting with the sore losers.



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ColdNoMore 03-09-2017 06:28 PM

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A President who cannot be trusted to tell the truth.

A President who leads an attack on our media

A President who wages war against his own country's intelligence community.

A President who, until he was forced to, refused to even entertain the idea that Russia attempted to influence, illegally, our election.

A President who accuses his predecessor of a felony

A President who accuses 1/2 million illegals of voting.

ALL done while President for about 6 weeks

Is this making America great ? Or does it sound like a novel speaking of a takeover.

Posters on here actually making excuses....the intelligence comminity is full of Obama type guys...not true and proven. Good patriotic Americans

Posters in here saying,..WITH ZERO EVIDENCE....that the wire trap was real, but oh..they were tapping Flynn. May be true, BUT NOT ONE WORD ABOUT A PRESIDENT ACCUSING ANOTHER OF A FELONY PUBLICALLY.

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Do you people love Donald Trump more than our country ?

I said it then and I'll say it again..."most of those who voted for Trump simply hated Hillary, more than they love their country." :ohdear:

And their continued support of such a scumbag...proves it every day.

What is really sad is that a lot of them (nationwide, not necessarily here) know deep down they made a horrible choice, but aren't big enough to admit their mistake...so they keep doubling down on their support of this lunatic. :oops:

Has it really only been a little less than two months...since this insane narcissist has been in office? :(

Rockyrd 03-09-2017 06:28 PM

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I love Trump more than I love Obamma and Obamma #2 (Crooked Hillary). You want to talk about lies...how about blatant corruption too? Rockface wasted his vote on nut job Jill Stien, she was not even in the race...but here he is telling us how bad we are for not voting for Crooked Hillary, how bad we are for not wasting our vote on Jill Stien, and how bad we are because we are not rioting with the sore losers.



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You are completely lost....I mean in outer space.

Rockyrd 03-09-2017 06:36 PM

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I said it then and I'll say it again..."most of those who voted for Trump simply hated Hillary, more than they love their country." :ohdear:

And their continued support of such a scumbag...proves it every day.

What is really sad is that a lot of them (nationwide, not necessarily here) know deep down they made a horrible choice, but aren't big enough to admit their mistake...so they keep doubling down on their support of this lunatic. :oops:

Has it really only been a little less than two months...since this insane narcissist has been in office? :(

I am thinking you are correct.

I surely would not and did not vote for either (nor Jill Stein, as suggested by our space cadet).

What escapes me is these posters will not even say that. They leave it out here, in public, that they actually love Trump more than their country. That is not an exaggeration at all. Trump disparages his country and the jump on board.....it is stunning that here in The Villages, we could possibly love this man more than the USA.

He attacks the intelligence community..THEY attack the intelligence community.

He makes terrible personal accusations....THEY support that.

The only response younget is some trashing of Obama and/or Clinton...perhaps in cases legitimate, but NEVER EVER with a condition.

We KNOW Russia tried to influence, illegally, our election, and these posters support Trump's call to ignore it.

Rosie1950 03-09-2017 06:44 PM

Follow the money, follow the money all the way to about 28000 hits on a Trump owned computer linked to a Russian Banks computer! Yep follow the money! Seems the FBI thinks this is very interesting! Can't wait for the 20th when the hearings start, they will be public and he maybe will look pretty much the liar!

HOPE KELLEYANN SPENDS THE MONEY ON GETTING HER HAIR DONE SHE SURE NEEDS IT!

Reiver 03-09-2017 06:56 PM

The lesson from the 2016 election should be that the President has too much power. Scale the job back to its Constitutionally stated level, muzzle congress, and give the states their rights back.

dirtbanker 03-09-2017 06:59 PM

Hey Rockface, your all about calling people out for lying right?

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rubicon 03-10-2017 05:04 AM

An unknown poster accused me of intentionally avoiding the OP remarks when I posted early. Hmmmm My opening remarks stipulated that George Soros and Company must be having a real belly laugh because the progressives are following the pied pipers down their intended path of perdition. but the poster either avoided those remarks or didn't understand them

Actually it is a waste of time to debate with progressives about Trump. He made a laughing stock of Soros, Hillary, Hollywood, MSM etc and they hate him for it

So their response isn't "country first". No they are hell bent on Trump's destruction by hook or crook and the nation be damned

Trump's policies are working but you would not know it if you are a progressive .

Progressives have gone so far left they are now right of conservatives meaning they are fascist. So ready yourself for book burning. We have seen the sort of destruction progressive are capable of at UC Berkley and Middlebury College and their herculean effort to prevent free speech .

Personal Best Regards:

Rockyrd 03-10-2017 06:42 AM

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An unknown poster accused me of intentionally avoiding the OP remarks when I posted early. Hmmmm My opening remarks stipulated that George Soros and Company must be having a real belly laugh because the progressives are following the pied pipers down their intended path of perdition. but the poster either avoided those remarks or didn't understand them

Actually it is a waste of time to debate with progressives about Trump. He made a laughing stock of Soros, Hillary, Hollywood, MSM etc and they hate him for it

So their response isn't "country first". No they are hell bent on Trump's destruction by hook or crook and the nation be damned

Trump's policies are working but you would not know it if you are a progressive .

Progressives have gone so far left they are now right of conservatives meaning they are fascist. So ready yourself for book burning. We have seen the sort of destruction progressive are capable of at UC Berkley and Middlebury College and their herculean effort to prevent free speech .

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I have admitted to speaking personally to other posters, and in this case I will not, because the adjectives I would use are not really for use in a public forum.

I just hope that your hero fulfills all your hopes and dreams.

Mostly, I hope, not just for you, but all of us that hi same lies do not interfere with our nations security. I hope he tells all of us the truth when "it is on the line".

Thus far, truth and honesty are not traits of his, and apparently you totally embrace dis honesty in our President.

I would hope that you would not have the nerve to post ever about honesty, good character, wholesomeness, or ever mention "making America great again"

Trump has been the most un American president ever, and as you continue to worship a man who is lying and "putting it to you" on a daily basis, I hope you can find within your hate speak, some sort of peace. I hope your racial, and ethnic hate cools overtime so you may enjoy and appreciate people of different color skin, or birthplace or religion. You accept lies and embrace them so easily, I am afraid your hate will continue.

I won't bug you any more unless you post anything about supporting honesty or our country, because based on your words that is impossible.

dave harris 03-10-2017 07:01 AM

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Typical Anti-American traitor that does not deserve to live in our great country. Thank goodness there are not enough of people like you to totally screw up our country.

The talk of a backer of comrade trump, who is the traitor?

MDLNB 03-10-2017 07:08 AM

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I worked for a couple of retired CIA analyst and/or realtors as a housesitter, dog sitter, garden tender, and the like from about 1997-2011 up to when the man of this couple passed away and the wife no longer needed me for their long trips abroad. And I have been working on the 224 613 Project since January of 1991 but only using those two numbers after I was subject #613 in a 17 week study on stress on the unemployed conducted by the University of California, San Francisco Health Sciences Campus. This was in late 1992-1993. The State of Nevada counted my work on this Project as payoff of my Stipend Grant for my MA in Librarianship and Information Management I got from the University of Denver in the Spring of 1984. The Stipend Grant was from the Western Interstate Commission on Higher Education. (WICHE) They made that decision in a Committee Hearing in September of 2000. I earned 24 nominations to Marquis Who's Who publications from 1992-2002 for I assume my work on this 224 613 Project. Again, I work on this Project every day. So, I am still working on something of value to some people. I did some work on this Project today. So what if no one pays me for it. The State of Nevada WICHE did.

I volunteered at two Palm Harbor, Florida libraries from 2000- 2003 for 10-14 hours a week.

I still do not trust Donald John Trump. The man is a con artist. I will see what he does but I have little confidence in what he says. The man is a pathological liar and looks mentally ill to boot.

George Bush got my vote. That is the younger George Bush. That was twice too. And I might have voted for John McCain if he had not picked Sarah Palin as a running mate. I am no fan of William Jefferson Clinton and never liked Joe Biden. Obama was a very
good President and is a very decent man.

Oh and the couple I worked for had pictures of Bush the Senior all over their house. They were very Republican.

And I saw Hillary Clinton as the lesser evil of two bad choices for President. And it looks like Donald John Trump only won because of the Anthony Weiner e-mail investigation and the FBI Director's untimely announcement concerning it.

So, what you are saying is that you have never held a legitimate full-time job in your life? And you admit it? No wonder you are a liberal. You obviously have lived off someone else all your life and have become dependent. Just an observation.

dave harris 03-10-2017 07:08 AM

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George Soros and friends have got to be having a real belly laugh as to how easy it is to lead progressives in any direction they choose.

Old George donated $264 million toward the Day Without Women. I wonder how the women laboring under Sharia Law view that movement? I wonder how the 30 million slaves mostly women used in sex trade around the world feel about a day without women. If feminist really care about the plight of women why were they not marching on behalf of these unrepresented women?

By the way conservative women just showed up for work because they are first and foremost responsible people who recognize that their patients needed them, their students needed them their customers needed them

Personal Best Regards:

Problem with people like you, all liberal woman are irresponsible and all conservative woman are responsible. You have no credibility.

MDLNB 03-10-2017 07:10 AM

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I am thinking you are correct.

I surely would not and did not vote for either (nor Jill Stein, as suggested by our space cadet).

What escapes me is these posters will not even say that. They leave it out here, in public, that they actually love Trump more than their country. That is not an exaggeration at all. Trump disparages his country and the jump on board.....it is stunning that here in The Villages, we could possibly love this man more than the USA.

He attacks the intelligence community..THEY attack the intelligence community.

He makes terrible personal accusations....THEY support that.

The only response younget is some trashing of Obama and/or Clinton...perhaps in cases legitimate, but NEVER EVER with a condition.

We KNOW Russia tried to influence, illegally, our election, and these posters support Trump's call to ignore it.

What an ignorant post. Get your information from fake news much?

MDLNB 03-10-2017 07:18 AM

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I said it then and I'll say it again..."most of those who voted for Trump simply hated Hillary, more than they love their country." :ohdear:

And their continued support of such a scumbag...proves it every day.

What is really sad is that a lot of them (nationwide, not necessarily here) know deep down they made a horrible choice, but aren't big enough to admit their mistake...so they keep doubling down on their support of this lunatic. :oops:

Has it really only been a little less than two months...since this insane narcissist has been in office? :(


No, the point that you can't seem to understand, which in itself is understandable in your grief of Hillary's great loss, is that most of us voted for Trump because he was not afraid to say what he planned to do and that his ideas agreed with ours. We also voted AGAINST crooked, corrupt Killary because she was the most reprehensibly nasty and corrupted example of a D.C. criminal that the left could come up with to represent them. Trump had a record of success and Killary had a record of failure and corruption. It was a very easy decision. It was YOUR fault that the Democrats lost. You chose a socialist and a criminal to represent you and even some of the left could not hold their nose and vote.

So, don't blame us if you did not get your way. Just sit back and cry your little sissy eyes out, and then pull up your depends and go play bingo or mahjong or whatever you do when you are not being your usual nasty self.

Don Baldwin 03-10-2017 08:43 AM

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No, the point that you can't seem to understand, which in itself is understandable in your grief of Hillary's great loss, is that most of us voted for Trump because he was not afraid to say what he planned to do and that his ideas agreed with ours. We also voted AGAINST crooked, corrupt Killary because she was the most reprehensibly nasty and corrupted example of a D.C. criminal that the left could come up with to represent them. Trump had a record of success and Killary had a record of failure and corruption. It was a very easy decision. It was YOUR fault that the Democrats lost. You chose a socialist and a criminal to represent you and even some of the left could not hold their nose and vote.

So, don't blame us if you did not get your way. Just sit back and cry your little sissy eyes out, and then pull up your depends and go play bingo or mahjong or whatever you do when you are not being your usual nasty self.

The root of the problem is...

One side...the left...liberals...Ds...think that everyone is equal everyone should be able to do/not do, whatever they want.

On the other side...the right...conservatives...Rs...KNOW that everyone is NOT equal and everyone CAN'T do/not do, whatever they want.

Taltarzac725 03-10-2017 09:15 AM

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So, what you are saying is that you have never held a legitimate full-time job in your life? And you admit it? No wonder you are a liberal. You obviously have lived off someone else all your life and have become dependent. Just an observation.

No. Yard service of neighborhood lawns from when I was about 15 years of age including to a man who became a General in the Air Force at the Pentagon, Reno, Nevada

Dishwasher for a few days at Rapscallion in Reno, Nevada.

Veterans Hospital, Critical Care volunteer, Reno, Nevada.

Senior aid, Reno, Nevada 1977-1983

Assistant Manager for a food service for about 1977 to 1983. One of these partners became a Warden in a Nevada Prison. Full time in Summers. Part time one Winter.

Abstractor for TrendTrak and Information Broker in Boulder, CO. 1984

Reference Assistant, Penrose Library, University of Denver 1984

Library Intern, Englewood Public Library. 1984

Abstractor/Indexer-- Information Access Company. Belmont, CA. 1984-1986

Library Assistant, reference, foreign language cataloger and WESTLAW cataloger and other jobs University of Minnesota Law Library 1988-1991

Urban Corp Intern-- Minneapolis Public Library, History and Travel Department, Downtown Main Library 1987-1988

Legal Assistance to Minnesota Prisoners, Student Director, 1988

Senior Aid, Itasca, IL. 1994

Senior Aid, Palm Harbor, 1997-2011

Business Assistant, 1997?-2000? Palm Harbor, Child care mostly.

Dog and bird sitter, the Villages, 2007-

These are mostly part-time jobs but my 224 613 Project often takes up a lot of my free time. And the Information Access Company and University of Minnesota Law Library did have some full time jobs involved. As well as the Legal Assistance to MN Prisoners. Full-time one Summer.

And a lot of this employment was to get FOUR degrees including a MA from the University of Denver and a Law Degree from the University of Minnesota. A BA in Philosophy and another in History from the University of Nevada, Reno.

Alibaba 03-10-2017 09:15 AM

You right wingers continue to amaze..... you believe the bull**** that this administrations feeds you. So dumb.
We need to make AMERICA SMART AGAIN!!

Taltarzac725 03-10-2017 09:31 AM

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You right wingers continue to amaze..... you believe the bull**** that this administrations feeds you. So dumb.
We need to make AMERICA SMART AGAIN!!

That is so right.

Don Baldwin 03-10-2017 09:35 AM

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You right wingers continue to amaze..... you believe the bull**** that this administrations feeds you. So dumb.
We need to make AMERICA SMART AGAIN!!

Well THAT won't happen "your way", by replacing whites with brown people.

Whites have gone from 90% of the population in the 50s to 49% today...you know what else dropped during the same time? EVERYTHING...we're now #25...down from #1 in the 50s when WHITE MEN ruled.

BOTH sides feed you bullsh!t...BOTH sides.

Rockyrd 03-10-2017 09:41 AM

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
― Theodore Roosevelt

Rockyrd 03-10-2017 09:45 AM

“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.”
― Theodore Roosevelt

Taltarzac725 03-10-2017 09:53 AM

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“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.”
― Theodore Roosevelt

One of the Presidents I really admire. Now there was someone with courage who also helped the environment quite a bit before that was even fashionable. Theodore Roosevelt and Conservation - Theodore Roosevelt National Park (U.S. National Park Service)

Don Baldwin 03-10-2017 09:54 AM

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Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.”
― Theodore Roosevelt

SAVE the country...keep it WHITE.

Whites are 49%...dropping fast...from 80% in the 1950s.

We were also #1 in the 50s and #25 now...

The rise of the minorities is CAUSATION...they destroy EVERYWHERE they "diversify". Name ONE place they haven't destroyed after becoming the majority. Haiti? Jamaica? S Africa? How about our inner cities? Schools? The "black" part of EVERY town? It's THEM and we're being FOOLED into believing it's really us "holding them down". Women do the same...blame men for their own deficiencies.

Don Baldwin 03-10-2017 09:57 AM

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One of the Presidents I really admire. Now there was someone with courage who also helped the environment quite a bit before that was even fashionable.

It was selfishness...HE wanted "frontier" to ride in. To explore. Everyone else benefited too...but the motivation wasn't wholly philanthropic.

Rockyrd 03-10-2017 10:03 AM

"In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. " - Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X


Rockyrd 03-10-2017 10:07 AM

When the President starts lying he begins to need evidence to back up his lies because in this democracy he is questioned on his statements. It then percolates down through the bureaucracy that you are helping the Boss if you come up with evidence that is supportive of our public position and you are distinctly unhelpful if you commit to paper statements that might leak to the wrong people.


The effect of that is to poison the flow of information to the President himself and to create a situation where a President can be almost, to use a metaphor, psychotically divorced from the realities in which he is acting...." Daniel Ellsburg to the US Senate on Foreign Relations, May 13, 1970

Taltarzac725 03-10-2017 10:10 AM

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It was selfishness...HE wanted "frontier" to ride in. To explore. Everyone else benefited too...but the motivation wasn't wholly philanthropic.

It usually is not. My 224 613 Project has a huge selfish part for me as I want to prove that I was right back in 1989 and afterwards when I saw a niche in services for survivors/victims of crimes in libraries. Specifically law libraries in law schools where they shape the future minds of our lawyers, judges, and especially politicians. I never wanted them to throw out the US and State Constitutions but just make sure they are doing everything they can to make it easier for survivors/victims deal with the legal system. I had gone back to Reno, Nevada in 1989 as the Cataloger of all the WESTLAW Computer Files but also as the recipient of the Michelle Mitchell Memorial Scholarship of 1976-1977. This was back to the Annual Law Librarian convention which was in Reno, Nevada that Summer of 1989. Brought back a lot of memories being back in Reno again. I had just graduated from Law School from the University of Minnesota that Spring of 1989.

Don Baldwin 03-10-2017 10:35 AM

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"In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. " - Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X


People should read his book.

Obama wrote his Mein Kampf too...people should have read that one too...BEFORE they voted for him.

It was all right there...for both men...laid out in black and white...and we/they let them do it.

wjboyer1 03-10-2017 10:39 AM

Trump's incompetence is a threat to our nation
 
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A President who cannot be trusted to tell the truth.

A President who leads an attack on our media

A President who wages war against his own country's intelligence community.

A President who, until he was forced to, refused to even entertain the idea that Russia attempted to influence, illegally, our election.

A President who accuses his predecessor of a felony

A President who accuses 1/2 million illegals of voting.

ALL done while President for about 6 weeks

Is this making America great ? Or does it sound like a novel speaking of a takeover.

Posters on here actually making excuses....the intelligence comminity is full of Obama type guys...not true and proven. Good patriotic Americans

Posters in here saying,..WITH ZERO EVIDENCE....that the wire trap was real, but oh..they were tapping Flynn. May be true, BUT NOT ONE WORD ABOUT A PRESIDENT ACCUSING ANOTHER OF A FELONY PUBLICALLY.

Do you people love Donald Trump more than our country ?

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Rockyrd 03-10-2017 01:43 PM

A FOX News contributor.....many times guest on Oreilly.

"But even if he has enemies in the press — and he does! — the main source of fake news in America isn’t the New York Times or the Washington Post or CNN. It’s the president himself. Let’s be kind and simply say he disseminates a lot of information that isn’t in the same zip code as the truth."

The Biggest Source of Fake News in America Is ...

Taltarzac725 03-10-2017 05:04 PM

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A FOX News contributor.....many times guest on Oreilly.

"But even if he has enemies in the press — and he does! — the main source of fake news in America isn’t the New York Times or the Washington Post or CNN. It’s the president himself. Let’s be kind and simply say he disseminates a lot of information that isn’t in the same zip code as the truth."

The Biggest Source of Fake News in America Is ...

True that.


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