I've really had it
 

with all of the animosity in this forum. It's not that I think that we're all going to agree with each other on everything and it's not that I don't think that we're going to to be passionate about our beliefs.

I'm just sick and tired of all the name calling and other nonsense. The Orange One, Trumpanzee, libtards, nutjobs, knuckle draggers etc., etc., etc.

It's all ridiculous and I've been staying out of this forum because of it. And that's really too bad, because we should be able to come to a place like this to discuss our differences in a civilized manner.

Nothing will ever get accomplished in this country if this kind of attitude continues.

Could not agree more!!

Politics has never been civilized. Just ask Alexander Hamilton.
Yet we've managed to accomplish some pretty great things in this country, despite the concerted efforts of the Soros funded pinko commie rat bastage unbathed hippies.

You forgot comrade trump

Yeah, he's a Liberal too. At best a Libertarian...
That's why I enjoy him so much!
It's great fun to watch Liberal's heads explode over Trump's liberal policies.
You gotten so used to automatically hating the opposition, you don't even listen to what he says.
The Democrats at Trump's Speech to Congress looked like people watching a band they absolutely hate sing a cover of their favorite song.

Liberal in some things. Republican in others. Demagogue in many. Con man and liar in almost all.

Enjoy, great fun??????...last time I checked this IS OUR COUNTRY!
Pay attention, until you realize YOUR COUNTRY is imploding from the
Most important position in the world, in the mean time, the world laughs at us.

The country is nowhere near being in danger. The only thing in danger is your Liberal attitudes.
Speaking of which, screw the world. There's not a single foreign country out there that I care about.
(except for Tibet, Nepal, Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam, Utah and The Duchy of Grand Fenwick)
Your desire to appeal to Europe is like a kid trying to get the bullies to pay more attention to him.

For example, the only reason there's so many refugees getting into Europe is that Gaddafi is gone.
He was being paid by Europe to "stop" the refugee flow at Libya's southern border.
If we were to espouse European values, we would pay President Nieto to shoot everyone trying to cross Mexico's southern border.
It would improve Mexico's economy, impoverished Mexicans would have work, and all our immigrant problems would go away.
Now, before you Liberals start salivating about killing people for the greater good - this would be a bad thing to do.

You nailed pretty darn good.

Clown shows are meant to make people laugh and have fun, except when you realize that it's the leaders of your government...that are the professional clowns. :ohdear:

Reading your post, I think I should tell you that President Trump wants to cut spending IN this country, and spend heavy on military

BUT, he is cutting the State Department way back, along with the UN, so....it appears that you get your wish,...we want no friends😊

This might help us understand your desire to have UN friends...

When you go to dinner with your friends - you pay for everyone.

When you need help moving a dresser in your house and you call one of your friends to give a hand - you pay him for his time.

When your friend needs help - you do it free of charge.

Why I can see the value from your friends point of view, I struggle to see it from yours...I guess your value is you get to say you have friends...



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Dear Guest:

I agree and started more than one thread on this same subject matter as did others on this forum. You received the same sort of treatment as did they and I. Why? Pick your poison..but content explains character

Political Talk started out well but along came a few who seem to take more pleasure in mockery and personal attacks than discussing political issues and it can be twofold 1) for being a conservative and 2) conservative =Trump and the progressives have only one response

This situation reach a disturbing level where a moderator threatened to close down Political Talk because some posters were carrying their personal attacks to the main menu. Posters suggested that the offending posters be stricken from membership but here we are.

One way to continue on Political Talk is simply share your comments and respond only to those who can and will respond in kind; otherwise avoidance is the safest remedy. To practice such avoidance I use the 10 second rule of golf. Hit a bad shot count 10 move on. come across an atavistic poster count 10 move on . Its a waste of your time to try and reason with them bectause they do not want a conversation.

What I find curious is that these same offending posters take on an entirely different persona when posting on the main menu. Is it because the main menu is policed more? Is it a Jekyll and Hyde thing?

Personal Best Regards:

Sorry to burst your ignorant bubble, but the only scum espousing murdering people coming across the border...are your right-wingnut extremist ilk.

MLBQT is particularly fond of this idea, as he has stated numerous times here, and has probably busted more than one nut...just thinking about it. :ohdear:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Amen!

I agree, but it's not only liberals insulting conservatives. It goes the other way as well.

I know it's never going to stop. Some people evidently have nothing else in their lives, so they spend their time on here trying to people all riled up.

I'm just glad I'm not one of them because they have to be miserable in order to want to make everyone else miserable.

I actually feel sorry for them. But mostly I think that it's sad that we can't have reasonable discussions about solutions and our differences.

And again, I think this applies to both sides.

I listened to what he said, did you?

"The latest flap came when Fox News host Bill O'Reilly said "Putin's a killer" -- a reference to Putin's past as a KGB agent and instances in which his political opponents and critics have died suddenly -- and Trump shot back, "There are a lot of killers. We get a lot of killers. What, you think our country's so innocent?"

Praise for Putin, but Trump's Russia policy a work in progress - CNNPolitics.com

I thought that was the purpose of the Federal Government.

Article One of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

Nothing in there about health care... Mostly just military stuff.

MDLNB also, dumb @ss.

The only Constitutional mandate is our Defense. The gov is not responsible for babysitting it's citizens, only protecting them from enemies foreign and domestic. Domestic, meaning libtard terrorists that should be put down.

Dear Guest:

Your thread bears repeating. Political Talk has become nothing but a game of blame and accusations. Its becoming depressing because a pedestrian can't tell the difference between reading Political Talk Threads and watching the Washington wonders debate on C-span.

what are any of us accomplishing? Its madness plain madness. i am tired of the bicker and tired of the filthy language , remarks and slanderous accusation placed against people

Personal Best Regards:

Next thing we know we will have a poster each and every day attacking ALL progressives, instead of a topic.

"Provide for the general welfare" is the catch-all they use to do...well...just about ANYTHING.

What if progressives ARE the topic? Many times they are because of their insane actions and beliefs...their wanton destruction of America by REPLACING whites with minorities...as an example.

"Its madness plain madness. i am tired of the bicker and tired of the filthy language , remarks and slanderous accusation placed against people"


Hypocrite, I would put you at the top of the class. Your a joke.

Glad you admit you do not have a right to arms, so you have no rights, however the Supreme Court can "mandate healthcare" and other things.

"The right to a jury trial, the writ of habeas corpus, protection for contracts,and protection against ex post facto laws were among the few individual rights explicitly set forth in the original constitution."

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R40846.pdf

Most constitutional scholars have concluded that provide for the general welfare refers to the general welfare of the states, not individuals.

Even if it did refer to individuals, the word provide can be interpreted in several different ways. It can simply mean to create and atmosphere in which people can thrive. It certainly doesn't mean that the government should take money from some people and give it to others.

I don't think that attacking progressives or conservatives is a reasonable course of discussion. Most of us want the same things. We just disagree on the method of attaining them.

No...not really...it's used to give people things government say's they "need".

"A general welfare clause is a section that appeared in many constitutions, as well as in some charters and statutes, which provides that the governing body empowered by the document may enact laws to promote the general welfare of the people, sometimes worded as the public welfare"

"The concern of the government for the health, peace, morality, and safety of its citizens. Providing for the welfare of the general public is a basic goal of government."

The first ammendment allows free speech, however, I just wish that your criticism of me or any other person who might be different than you politically would SOMEDAY be extended to your friends who equate Russian way of life with ours, who express true hate for anyone not white or Christian or even male.

I don't expect that, but your stated dissatisfaction seems to be narrow and reserved.

We "hate" their actions, what they do, we don't want them around us. Surely, there are people you don't want to be around and you don't want to be FORCED to associate with them. (Murderers, rapists, thieves, pedophiles, conservatives, independents, etc) Give us the same courtesy by allowing us to add blacks/Hispanics. That's ALL we ask...to add them to the already LONG list that you agree with yourself.

The difference between "your" politics and "my" politics is...your WILL destroy the country in 30 years...the timer is ticking...the minority populations ARE growing...RAPIDLY. Whites ARE 49% and falling. America is GONE when the Hispanic majority arrives. They are ALREADY the majority of young children.

It would seem to me any person knowing what is inevitable would use reason and try to make the best of what is happening. Your bigotry will affect your descendants, or don't you realize that?