Trump in 2014: If I run, I'll provide taxes
 

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Obviously, Trump does not always tell the truth. He is, however, not much different than many others who obtained "power" by the same methods.

Fyi
 

1. The law does not require the president to publish his tax forms.
2. Do you really believe that YOU are better qualified to review TRUMP'S tax return then the top people at the IRS?
If, you are not aware, the Constitution of the US is 4 pages. The tax code is 86,000 pages of which so much of it is political favors. NO JOKE-there is a section they call the Starbucks code. In allows Starbucks to be taxed as a manufacturer-the,"reason?"-they roast coffee.
3. IF, NOTHING ELSE-DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN YOU SHOULD SEE THE TAX CODE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED-SIMPLIFIED. By the way Trumps fewer and lower tax brackets will also reduce the value of tax deductions.
4. People always believe their deductions are fair and valid while other peoples deductions are illegal and immoral.
For those of you with pensions, that was untaxed income.
For those of you with some match on your 401K that too was untaxed income. Why is interest a mortgage a deduction but rent is not?
The proposed FLAT TAX, which will never pass because it greatly reduces the power of government, would tax everyone. The rich spend more so they would pay more in taxes. A flat tax would encourage SAVINGS-feared by not only the government but the economy which is built on buy now and pay later.

Really? People are still going on about this? I saw that there was some sort of demonstration in Harvard Square last week in an effort to get President Trump to release his tax returns. Is this really all people have to do?

Liberals and democrats have got to realize that they lost. They lost the presidency, the house, the senate and 33 of 50 governorships.

Most of the country is more concerned about real issues as opposed to what's in the president's tax returns.

Some of his tax returns have been released and they show that he has paid a higher rate of tax than most people including Elizabeth Warren who some people continue to follow like blind lemmings.

Please realize, it's over. You lost and we need to get on with the business of running this country.

You miss the point entirely. Trump said he would disclose his tax returns as other Presidents of the modern era have and now he is flat out saying no. His word apparently means nothing. That is the point nothing more or nothing else.

Jim. Care to share your taxes? Taxes are sort of a I want to love my country but I want to keep any legit stuff I earned phenomena.

I think the IRS would have had him hung and dried by now if he was being a bad boy.

Speaking of the IRS...do you remember when during the OBAMA administration that units of the Tea Party Organization were targeted???? Hunted down, and unfairly audited, some say. Just wondered if you recall that, Jim.

Obama USED the IRS, the Justice Department, the CIA, Homeland Security in ways that they hadn't been used before. IN MY OPINION. Can't say that Trump is any better, but I so dislike that stuff.

Let's put it this way. If I told you that I would disclose my tax returns if I was elected to "whatever", I would keep my word and do it. It's called integrity. We Republicans as much as the Democracts should hold him to it. It's really as simple as that.

As I read these posts, I am struck by the misinformation being shared.

Nobody gives a hoot how much money he made at all/

He has caused a movement to make it mandatory to release these taxes and by next presidential election it will be mandatory.

Past candidates and Presidents had enough respect for the country to release them.

TWO REASONS...IMPORTANT THEY ARE FOR THE TAX RELEASE.

1. FOREIGN INVOLVEMENT for the man who controls our foreign policy; probably more important with this President than ever before. The tax returns will reveal cleanly and easily any foreign business dealing and foreign debt. Important to know IF and WHO the President owes or is indebted to or has interests. Example....he, himself has admitted he has a conflict of interest regarding Turkey because of his twin towers in Instanbul.

2. TAX RATE for the man who will propose tax law to our congress. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT HE PAYS, simply the american people have a right to know how anything he proposes affects HIS taxes as well as ours.

This has been standard practice for the two reasons given for years. If he stands fast on not releasing, it WILL FOR SURE affect whatever tax reform he wants to get through congress.

We are so lucky that we have an expert with 50 years in the political arena to set us straight.

Go ahead Rockface tell them how much you know, so much that you voted for someone that wasn't even running for president!

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DIRTBANKER, who understand is a Good friend of Graciegirl based on another post......thus I understand your grasping...

AS I SAID BEFORE I VOTED FOR MCCOLLOUGH AS A WRITE IN. WE HAVE THOSE IN THIS COUNTRY YOU KNOW.

NEXT, YOU CAN ATTACK ME ALL YOU WANT BUT AS YOU ALWAYS DO..YOU IGNIRE THE SUBJECT MATTER TOTALLY.

You and your ilk will get nothing from me on here except scorn and smart ass remarks in return.

Hoping someday, you are allowed from the basement, showed a newspaper, taught reading comprehension and then perhaps, other than those who share your infantile comments, adults will converse

An expert with 50 years in the political arena...votes a write in for President. Wow, you showed them! LMFAO!!

You are no political genius...and you are no genius on here either. Graciegirl has made several negative comments about me. BUT, my supposed friendship with her is your FIRST concern...only because you have a hard on for her and Rubi...

I am looking forward to some smart a$$ remarks from you...it will be a improvement from the dumb a$$ remarks you have been making for the last year...

To clarify. The person called Jim that I had a negative remark for was the OP on this thread J.Boyer. NOT Just Jim.

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Sadly, in your,"mind?" anyone who disagrees with you is an infantile fool. Re: reading comprehension. My guess another progressive, liberal retired teacher.

Re: allowed out of the basement.
Clearly you are confused-there are no basements in the villages-THAT IS A SWIMMING POOL.

Oh, voting for Mccollough? Neither the republicans or the democrats CARE.

I applaud your willingness to try and insert a modicum of integrity and ethics...into your fellow party members. :thumbup:

It has been said in this discussion before, but is worth repeating for you,"Let's put it this way. If I told you that I would disclose my tax returns if I was elected to "whatever", I would keep my word and do it. It's called integrity. We Republicans as much as the Democracts should hold him to it. It's really as simple as that."

It does not matter what you think the Obama administration did or did not do, Trump said he would release his taxes, and not only hasn't he done it, but lied about the reasons that he has not released them. Sounds VERY PRESIDENTIAL to me....

Your argument is moot, the IRS investigates things according to their own guidelines, not at the direction of a President. Please become aware of what your government can, and cannot do. Go back to school and take a civics class, and while you are at it, learn to use factual data and critical thinking in your posts, not just regurgitation of Republican talking points which have been debunked.

See, here is the deal, CUPCAKE.

I enjoy a lively discussion with folks disagreeing with me. THAT is educational and actually fun, where you really can learn and understand.

HOWEVER, what I do not or will not accept are simple minded "cliches" or total untruths.

When I get a response that seems logical, EVEN if a disagreement, I investigate it before responding. If I find, as in almost all the cases on here, it is simply not true, made up or a out and out lie (I would add opinion pieces fron proven fake news, I might simply call that to the attention of the poster.

If it's true, but I disagree, different story. Then I examine my position, see if the other position has something I should ask about, I will then, with great respect, make my case and from there both of us learn a bit.

What you and others do is a few things....post a campaign wuote from Trump, which is always easy to disprove, post an accusation from Trump, which thus far has proven to be 100% false, or some bland loyalty to Trump which is easy to thrust aside.

But see, your post is just wise ass remarks with no reasoning.

The person to whom I responded to is a troll. Never on subject, always talking in wise ass remarks.

What is disappointing is I have seen posts from you that had some substance...posts about national debt, budget, etc. All worthy of discussion, but alas, you have joined in those who only read the Russian websites, spot off about Clinton or Obama ( I suppose all know they hold no office and are not a good substitute when confronted with another admin mix up)

I know we have no basements, but Dirtbikers posts remind of those guys with thick glasses in the basement...sorry for such a high brow analogy

Great post, but afraid will fall on deaf ears. The reason for tax returns seems to escape most on here, and despite what is happening, they hold a blind loyalty to a person who is not, nor will not return the favor, but good sound post.

Hey, Trump changed his mind regarding posting his tax returns. OK, so why does anyone care? This phony explanation that you think you will find something that IRS can't is just that, phony. So, get on with your life. Find something else to disparage him about, such as his choice of hair gel, or what he eats. End of story, end of this stupid thread.

Shame on all of us, for actually believing that he was telling the truth...this one time. :oops:

Nice try at deflection, but intelligent people...aren't falling for it. :oops:

The reason to see his tax returns like EVERY OTHER POTUS SINCE THE 60's, is not to verify that the IRS is doing their job and making sure it is filled out correctly...it is to see what associations he might have in other countries.

That's NOT the IRS' job...nor is their job to care about it.

As a patriotic American citizen though...it SHOULD be YOUR job to care.

The real problem now is that his cultists are scared $hitless that there are real conflicts of interest and they have now spent so much emotional capital defending his indefensible statements/actions...they loathe the thought of Chump being exposed.

From one, very selfish, hyper-partisan level....it is understandable.

From the perspective of being a patriotic American citizen, that loves this country FIRST however...it is unfathomable. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Now, you are speaking as a REPUBLICAN? Good one!

Sorry, but THIS REPUBLICAN does not care about his taxes. Never did. Never cared about Hillary's either, even though she took the same type of tax loss write off that Trump did. Just less. I believe Trump when he says he is rich and do not need proof. And I know that if there is anything untoward in his taxes, the IRS will immediately be on him like white on rice.

So get over your little whining. It's like listening to fingernails on a chalkboard.

With all the things that Trump has accomplished in the last 90 days, you can't find anything else but personal things to cry about? He must be doing an EXCELLENT job.

Wow, someone that admits that they wasted their day standing in line to vote for Mickey Mouse. You must be pretty bored to waste time in order to throw away your vote. I bet you really showed Trump, didn't you?....:a20: If you dislike him so much, you should have voted for Hillary. At least you could then admit that you are a liberal instead of masquerading as a conservative. Either way, still a loser.

Hey, no big deal. Everyone needs a laugh once in a while. Thanks.

How long does this poster celebrate in advance the DEATH of a candidate he/she does not like ? How long does an animal like this be allowed on this or any forum ?

It has been said that the Trump campaign generated HATE. Many examples on here, but this particular poster MDLNB is a perfect example.

Not being FOR anything, in fact not knowing anything at all except hate is just not normal.

Just put him on your Ignore List. If enough of us do that he will be talking to himself. Trolls hate that.

How long does this poster whine about the winner of an election in which this poster wasted his vote on someone that was not even running for president? How long does an idiot like this be allowed on this or any forum?

It has been said the Trump victory generated HATE. Many examples on here with Rockface's non stop negative posts.

Not being FOR anything that Trump does, in fact not knowing anything at all except hate is not normal unless you are an old fool or a liberal...



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Yes, similar to you talking to yourself in your librarian thread...



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I can only assume from the following....

1. He is always talking about how rich he is and how he is not leveraged at all. Perhaps, he is either not that rich or very leveraged.

2. If he is leveraged, he does not want anyone to know were this leverage is.

3. Or fill in the blanks.

He is setting records for the most closed and least transparent administration ever in the history of this country. He is STILL non transparent on his business dealings after making a big deal about all of that.

I don't think many people at all give a darn about how much he makes, BUT the rest is something he, more than any other President ever, needs to share with America. He is rich..no problem, but he is INTERNTIONALLY active......FACT IS..NONE one american bank has done business with him for quite a while BUT he is sending out EOs that the banks are salivating over. Risk is back in those bonds folks

Blah blah blah
More conjecture, upon conjecture, just to be negative.
You are consumed with hate and have nothing positive to say about anything Trump does or might do.
Obviously the person you're most disappointed in is yourself. You wasted your vote with a write-in for someone who wasn't even running for president.
You live in a different reality and your little different than the wackadoodle...


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Oh yeah, now your a financial expert too...

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No, I am actually consumed with the TRUTH. If he said he would release his taxes, why does he now keep lying about audits? why does he not reveal what he promised to do? Why do you keep defending his lies? Why is your "reality" based upon debunked Republican talking points and not factual (and therefore debatable) data? Why do you accuse those of exposing lies; hateful? We just want to know why Trump won't tell the truth and follow through with his promises.......what is hateful about that?

Truth, integrity and honesty is like Kryptonite...to a lot of Chump supporters. :ohdear:

Hillary was a Trump supporter? Weiner was a Trump supporter? Slick Willie Clinton was a Trump supporter? Lots of lies there, just saying.

I bet you get called stupid a lot for your comments. OR TROLL.

As do you as well.....

I do get called names, but it is due to just the opposite reason from what you suggest and are leveled by people like yourself...who abhor being wounded with arrows of truth. :ho:

But hey...I can live with it. :D

As for "TROLL," since you are one of the site leaders in that category with your one/two sentence attack dog responses...you really should look in the mirror. :1rotfl:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

That is DEEP...
When you lied about making a charitable contribution, what kind of arrow was that?

I mean who would lie like that and then go around claiming to be delivering arrows of truth...Oh that's right, a (unt would.


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He seems like a Yorkie with attitude.

Hardly a lie. ;)


I am proud of my ongoing charitable donations...to just social causes. :thumbup:


That you find it so incredulous that people do that, is a great insight into your OWN scumminess...NOT the donators. :D




Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Liar. Let's see your tax return. Prove it.:D

Non-sincere wishes :wave:

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