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champion6 05-15-2017 08:51 AM

Population of The Villages
 
Interesting up-to-date factoid in today's Daily Sun, C1:
"113,931 - The Villages population in Lake, Marion and Sumter counties as of March."

justjim 05-15-2017 09:42 AM

Yes, that is difficult information to get because The Villages is in three counties and also in adjacent towns/cities. I wonder what a population number would be for a 50 mile radius of The Villages. This is the kind of numbers looked out for larger commercial regional malls.

dewilson58 05-15-2017 09:43 AM

that could be a correct number if all owners were here

Aw Man 05-15-2017 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1398707)
Interesting up-to-date factoid in today's Daily Sun, C1:
"113,931 - The Villages population in Lake, Marion and Sumter counties as of March."

Very interesting.
I know this is silly, but recently I kept track of the population numbers for each state as listed in the "Where we're from" page in the Daily Sun.
The total for all states combined is just over 55,000.
I wonder what these numbers are based on, maybe permanent Florida residents only?
Or maybe these numbers haven't been updated for a long time?

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-15-2017 11:35 AM

The Villages alone is larger than Ocala, Belleview, Summerfield, Fruitland Park and Leesburg put together.

I don't understand why more businesses don't open more stores here.

There's a Guitar Center in Ocala for example. I would think that it would do much better in TV. Costco in Altamonte, of course, draws from Orlando, but the fact that there is not one either in or within a few miles of TV is perplexing. it would centrally located for all of the communities that I mentioned and would extremely well.

And you can throw Wildwood into that mix as well.

Combined all of those communities have a population of about 106,000, add TV and we're over 215,000

pauld315 05-15-2017 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1398782)
The Villages alone is larger than Ocala, Belleview, Summerfield, Fruitland Park and Leesburg put together.

I don't understand why more businesses don't open more stores here.

There's a Guitar Center in Ocala for example. I would think that it would do much better in TV. Costco in Altamonte, of course, draws from Orlando, but the fact that there is not one either in or within a few miles of TV is perplexing. it would centrally located for all of the communities that I mentioned and would extremely well.

And you can throw Wildwood into that mix as well.

Combined all of those communities have a population of about 106,000, add TV and we're over 215,000

215000 is not that big of a number to draw a store like Costco. For example, I currently live in the Raleigh NC area. Raleigh is in Wake County. The city of Raleigh's latest population number is about 450,000 and the population of the county is about 1.1 million. We have had somewhere between 65 and 70 people on average a day moving into this area for at least 15 years. Even with those numbers Wake County only had one Costco until a year ago when they built a second one. We also have 2 Trader Joe's to serve 1.1 million people.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-15-2017 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 1398852)
215000 is not that big of a number to draw a store like Costco. For example, I currently live in the Raleigh NC area. Raleigh is in Wake County. The city of Raleigh's latest population number is about 450,000 and the population of the county is about 1.1 million. We have had somewhere between 65 and 70 people on average a day moving into this area for at least 15 years. Even with those numbers Wake County only had one Costco until a year ago when they built a second one. We also have 2 Trader Joe's to serve 1.1 million people.

We have several Wal Marts and a Sam's Club the those communities. If you have 2 Costcos for 450,000 why wouldn't they put one in for 215,000 and growing. The Villages has been the faster growing community in the country, every year for several years now. I would think that someone in one of those corporate offices would see the writing on the wall.

ColdNoMore 05-15-2017 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 1398852)
215000 is not that big of a number to draw a store like Costco. For example, I currently live in the Raleigh NC area. Raleigh is in Wake County. The city of Raleigh's latest population number is about 450,000 and the population of the county is about 1.1 million. We have had somewhere between 65 and 70 people on average a day moving into this area for at least 15 years. Even with those numbers Wake County only had one Costco until a year ago when they built a second one. We also have 2 Trader Joe's to serve 1.1 million people.


While I would LOVE to see Costco come here, they obviously have their own set of metrics/demographics that they use to build in new locations.

They may very well be thinking that even with a decent population, because it is a majority of 'mature/retired' folks...they don't see the sense in coming now.

After all, their bread and butter is from people buying everyday items in bulk and they may think that the area is populated by cheapskates...and older folks who avoid buying green bananas. :D

pauld315 05-15-2017 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1398913)
We have several Wal Marts and a Sam's Club the those communities. If you have 2 Costcos for 450,000 why wouldn't they put one in for 215,000 and growing. The Villages has been the faster growing community in the country, every year for several years now. I would think that someone in one of those corporate offices would see the writing on the wall.

We have 2 Costcos for 1.1 Million people

pauld315 05-15-2017 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1398924)
While I would LOVE to see Costco come here, they obviously have their own set of metrics/demographics that they use to build in new locations.

They may very well be thinking that even with a decent population, because it is a majority of 'mature/retired' folks...they don't see the sense in coming now.

After all, their bread and butter is from people buying everyday items in bulk and they may think that the area is populated by cheapskates...and older folks who avoid buying green bananas. :D

I don't think they believe the population is "cheapskates" as you call them but they may be looking for a higher number of residents per home than there is in TV. They may wonder, as I do, why any retired couple needs to buy in bulk.

billethkid 05-15-2017 06:30 PM

I suspect the cost of the land, lease or buy is a significant factor.

SALYBOW 05-15-2017 07:01 PM

Because it is cheaper?????

justjim 05-15-2017 08:19 PM

If you go out 50 miles in all directions (north, south, east , west) from The Villages, a WAG (wild ass guess) might be a population of 800,000 more or less. Currently, I am not in a place to check my WAG but I just googled population of the four surrounding counties and came up with 912,138. Interesting, yes or no?

chuckinca 05-15-2017 08:38 PM

508 Costco stores in US

US population 325 Mil

1 Costco for every 640,000

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simpkinp 05-15-2017 10:18 PM

The amount of food and other goods for the myriad of parties should make them want to be here. All our clubs go there for the things they need. I see pallets of goods going out every time I go there. That is my "go to place" when I host a party and supply my friends supply the clubs

Duppa 05-16-2017 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aw Man (Post 1398778)
Very interesting.
I know this is silly, but recently I kept track of the population numbers for each state as listed in the "Where we're from" page in the Daily Sun.
The total for all states combined is just over 55,000.
I wonder what these numbers are based on, maybe permanent Florida residents only?
Or maybe these numbers haven't been updated for a long time?

Yes, I wondered about that... I also kept a log of that same data. Here is the record gleaned from the Daily Sun ("Where we're from" page)... as of March 2017. Data was given for every state EXCEPT ONE, Florida... perhaps the Florida number fills the gap between 55,000 and 113,000?

The Villages: Representation by State (49 plus Washington DC)
Data from Daily Sun “Where We’re From” feature: October 2016 – March 2017


Florida (only state missing in data)

Alabama: 437

Alaska: 94

Arkansas: 166

Arizona: 306

California: 1,165

Colorado: 529

Connecticut: 2,104

Delaware: 520

Georgia: 1,996

Hawaii: 81

Idaho: 36

Illinois: 3,771 [#6]

Indiana: 1,850

Iowa: 513

Kansas: 319

Kentucky: 727

Louisiana: 171

Maine: 729

Maryland: 2,567 [#10]

Massachusetts: 3,080 [#7]

Michigan: 4,079 [#4]

Minnesota: 1,199

Mississippi: 140

Missouri: 911

Montana: 38

Nebraska: 113

New Hampshire: 1,215

New Jersey: 4,054 [#5]

New Mexico: 81

New York: 8,991 [#1]

Nevada: 214

North Carolina: 1,627

North Dakota: 81

Ohio: 4,316 [#3]

Oklahoma: 124

Oregon: 112

Pennsylvania: 5,087 [#2]

Rhode Island: 779

South Carolina: 706

South Dakota: 113

Tennessee: 970

Texas: 1,123

Utah: 74

Vermont: 362

Virginia: 2,794 [#8]

Washington: 297

Washington DC: 34

West Virginia: 340

Wisconsin: 2,173

Wyoming: 36

thelegges 05-16-2017 07:07 PM

Wonder how people with multiple homes are counted

CWGUY 05-16-2017 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aw Man (Post 1398778)
Very interesting.
I know this is silly, but recently I kept track of the population numbers for each state as listed in the "Where we're from" page in the Daily Sun.
The total for all states combined is just over 55,000.
I wonder what these numbers are based on, maybe permanent Florida residents only?
Or maybe these numbers haven't been updated for a long time?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duppa (Post 1399275)
Yes, I wondered about that... I also kept a log of that same data. Here is the record gleaned from the Daily Sun ("Where we're from" page)... as of March 2017. Data was given for every state EXCEPT ONE, Florida... perhaps the Florida number fills the gap between 55,000 and 113,000?

The Villages: Representation by State (49 plus Washington DC)
Data from Daily Sun “Where We’re From” feature: October 2016 – March 2017


Florida (only state missing in data)

Alabama: 437

Alaska: 94

Arkansas: 166

Arizona: 306

California: 1,165

Colorado: 529

Connecticut: 2,104

Delaware: 520

Georgia: 1,996

Hawaii: 81

Idaho: 36

Illinois: 3,771 [#6]

Indiana: 1,850

Iowa: 513

Kansas: 319

Kentucky: 727

Louisiana: 171

Maine: 729

Maryland: 2,567 [#10]

Massachusetts: 3,080 [#7]

Michigan: 4,079 [#4]

Minnesota: 1,199

Mississippi: 140

Missouri: 911

Montana: 38

Nebraska: 113

New Hampshire: 1,215

New Jersey: 4,054 [#5]

New Mexico: 81

New York: 8,991 [#1]

Nevada: 214

North Carolina: 1,627

North Dakota: 81

Ohio: 4,316 [#3]

Oklahoma: 124

Oregon: 112

Pennsylvania: 5,087 [#2]

Rhode Island: 779

South Carolina: 706

South Dakota: 113

Tennessee: 970

Texas: 1,123

Utah: 74

Vermont: 362

Virginia: 2,794 [#8]

Washington: 297

Washington DC: 34

West Virginia: 340

Wisconsin: 2,173

Wyoming: 36





:undecided: Read again! It says "at least" not "exactly". :ohdear:

village dreamer 05-16-2017 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 1398939)
I don't think they believe the population is "cheapskates" as you call them but they may be looking for a higher number of residents per home than there is in TV. They may wonder, as I do, why any retired couple needs to buy in bulk.

yep,cause we may not be around tomorrow........but they do sell caskets......:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

justjim 05-17-2017 08:42 AM

In a conversation with one of "Oldest" Villages Realtors (over 20 years) , I was told that about half of the newbies that move to the Villages come from the State of Florida. Now, they may have moved to Florida from another State prior to moving south. Obviously the numbers listed are just approximate and they haven't been updated for several months. One of the more interesting things about The Villages is the people you meet from all backgrounds, occupations and experiences.

e-flyer 05-18-2017 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 1398707)
Interesting up-to-date factoid in today's Daily Sun, C1:
"113,931 - The Villages population in Lake, Marion and Sumter counties as of March."

Google list TV population as 157,000.

thelegges 05-18-2017 08:39 AM

Since TV is the only one that keeps track of how many resident IDs come and go they would have an accurate amount however, they do list what state you are from on the board in the sales office. I do not believe that they have ever posted how many residents there are or previous state. But I could be wrong


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