Fall of the American Empire
 

The only words I can think of to describe our country today. We have a large number of people who in the face of obvious criminal activity, degradation of our highest office, and racism, will support a totally imcompetent egomaniac.
Our country is divided more than any time in our history. What has happened to our society that has become so selfish, entitled, and racist?
I know so many people here who are totally oblivious to what is going on. They either just don't care or just plain ignorant.
As a student of history, I see so many similarities with the German people in 1930. We just don't learn from our history.

I am not that worried any longer. The media is coming down hard on Donald John Trump and his demagoguery and the racism it fed off of during his campaign and earlier with his birther movement leadership. And the DC establishment will fight Trump tooth and nail to keep their control of the Beltway. We will have to wait and see who is left standing though. Will Mike Pence survive the shake-up? Mike Pence wants us to believe he’s innocent. Don’t buy it. - The Washington Post

We have 3 "races" or "species" all vying for the same resources. The top species is committing genetic suicide as they PROMOTE the lesser species to reproduce wantonly.

America is in decline because the PEOPLE who make up America are in decline...being replaced by 3rd world violent idiots. Whites are at 50% right now and forecast to be 20-25% in 30 years...we'll have declined a LOT more by then. We've already declined from #1 to #25 since we began "turning brown".

America dies within 30 years...it's inevitable.

There is not ONE successful place that was once white and turned brown. There are a lot that collapsed into chaos.

We are in trouble, but I think our democratic institutions and the governmental structure established in our Constitution are pretty flexible and can withstand this turmoil. The 2018 elections will be a pivotal point for us.

The racists, bigots, and others whose philosophy is based on hate and superiority have always been here. They now just have a POTUS who empowers them to speak out their hateful message. Currently our government is stymied by partisanship, on both sides of the aisle. We need leadership to bring us together, and that is the farthest thing from what is happening currently.

America was deeply divided during the Presidency of Richard Nixon. We were divided over Viet Nam and other wars. We were most divided over slavery and the Civil War. We've murdered our Presidents, fallen into economic depression, and been at war somewhere in the world far more than not at war during the history of our nation, and yet we survive. We experience. We learn. We adjust. And we persevere.

I am convinced that what ultimately makes us unique in America is a free press. Those who attack a free press so so because they fear the truth. As long as we have people who tell us the truth, no matter how much that truth hurts, we will be able to see our course and correct our course when we need to do so.

Oh to be so naive... So obtuse... So dense... So vacuous... I wish I'd never taken the "red pill"... Once you know...you can never come back.

You fiddle while Rome burns...you argue over the arrangement of the deck chairs on the sinking Titanic. And THAT is exactly what is happening only it's Hispanics swarming in that will sink this great ship.

Why can't you people comprehend our countries future? There has NEVER been a country that remained the same after being overrun with foreigners. ESPECIALLY when they are 3rd world brown people. Jamaica, Haiti...former pearls of the Atlantic...now fetid slums. S Africa once thriving...taken over by blacks...with such high hopes...it worked for a few years and then fell to pieces. S Africa is now a murder capital. Whites are being run off their land and killed...slavery STILL exists where WE BOUGHT OURS. They haven't ended slavery...they just have different customers now.

GENETICALLY...they are NOT us...pretending they are is dragging us down...it WILL destroy us.

If anybody was not worried about the the speed of the decline of America's core values and race relations during the past 8 years ......then there sure as hell is nothing to worry about now.......it is just a continuation.

We do have a continuation generated and aggravated by the fact the democrats lost their so called sure thing election last November. And they, along with the mainstream media are committed to violent tearing apart of America to facilitate their agenda.

Trump being a threat to the Obama agenda, a threat to Clinton's ability to do anything and a threat to the business as usual politicians and the special interest groups and minority groups who all stand to lose benefit(s) under Trump........a new resistance movement is afoot in America....and it has not one damn thing to do with furthering of America. Only the destruction of Trump....and willing to $hitcan America in the process.

Trump is the one who is flushing America's core values into the toilet.

It was flushed long before he came on the scene.
Some of you are just confused and have been led astray.

Au contraire:

I agree that our Constitution and form of government provide a sound barrier from total collapse but it continues to be weakened by those who have made attempts to circumvent the US Constitution.

You error when you speak of this President as promoting hate and racism. Where you error is that their are dark forces intent on removing this president spewing lies and innuendo which is very damaging to the nation as a whole.

Indeed we were divided during the Nixon years Viet Nam and the Civil War.

However, despite what you were taught in school the Civil War while said to have been about slavery was really an attempt to vilify the South by publicly shaming them for the slavery that “caused the Civil War”, when, in fact, the war itself was truly and unequivocally a result of northern lawmakers’ attempts to sabotage the sovereignty provided by states’ rights as the nation continued westward to its manifest destiny.

The so called free press , the Fourth Estate indeed is free but it has degraded to the worse sort of yellow journalism and is bent on spinning out right lies in order to get this president removed from office.

This so called free press which is suppose to be a truth teller and watch dog for all Americans has lost all its credibility and that is bad for a democracy.

Finally this president has a deep interest in state rights and if you recollect the states organized the federal government and not the other way around. I believe in state rights and I abhor the attempt by many progressives to have the federal government take control of all things.
total federaal cntrol will damge this nation more than any other one event.

Personal Best Regards

Turning into a MAJORITY Hispanic WILL damage this nation more than any other event OR group of events.

"Where you error is that their are dark forces intent on removing this president spewing lies and innuendo which is very damaging to the nation as a whole. "

Yet you can never ever, not once dispute the lies and total deceit practiced by this White House.

You always get heavily, and self righteously offended when you are criticized, or your loving hero, yet with this statement, as with others you offend.me and other posters.

I back up what I say...Trump lies. I back up what I say...Trump deceives.

I can accept backing of Trump....I cannot accept your lies, because you either lie or are braindead as to what is happening.

You tout fear for the country, which coming from you is downright silly. You SUPPORT lying from the White House. That alone, and it certainly is not alone in naming the sins of this administration, is indicative of your total love for this man, and your total disrespect for this country.

:boom:

Once again, you've laid bare RubiTHECon's (and all Trump Cultist's)...core and fundamental despicableness. :thumbup:

IN OCTOBER 2016........

"Trump said countries such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar that "push gays off buildings and treat women horribly" have given her foundation millions of dollars. He asked why Clinton would not give back the money she has received from certain countries that treat certain groups of people badly."

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/19/trump...nterprise.html

TODAY.....

"RIYADH, Saudi Arabia—The World Bank plans to announce Sunday at an event with Ivanka Trump, the U.S. president’s daughter and senior White House adviser, that Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates have pledged $100 million collectively toward a fund for women who own or want to start businesses, "

Saudi Arabia, U.A.E. Pledge $100 Million to World Bank’s Women Entrepreneurs Fund - WSJ

I like what Ivanka Trump is trying to do for women in some Arab countries. She and her husband seem like decent and reasonable people. Ivanka Trump - Thank you World Bank President Jim Yong Kim... | Facebook

Ivanka Trump - This morning I participated in a powerful... | Facebook

Rumor is her husband is the only WH associate named in the Trump investigation.

So you are just fine with the hypocrisy of this family ?

When you have something more than just rumor get back to me. And I do not condemn a whole family because something one of its members has done. These are each different people. Jared Kushner to be questioned over ties to Russia | USA News | Al Jazeera

I do not disagree...simply responding to your post.

You get back to me when the Trump family even gets close to the good work of others they condemn.

How quickly the human rights are forgotten....how quickly those big bad Muslims are suddenly our friends.

Read a bit about good they are as "friends"

It's ALL "rumor"...even the "news"...

But, this family, all of them, have embarrassed the Bush family, including the mother. They do not have enough time to match the contributions of others.

It is not just one...they all, every single one has condemned every charity, except their own, shown to be a scam, and not one of the orgs being studied as laundering Russian money.

If you think Donald is the only bad apple, I suggest you read up.

So, YOU believe ONLY DONALD TRUMP ?

So you have now been conned. Ok, you have just joined the victim list of the Trump org.

Amazing how when others condemn the treatment of women, they are shut down, and they have said not one word about civil rights during this visit, yet you give sainthood.

The condemnation by any Trump is a tool...a passageway to more money for the family.

Bush and Clinton's have done so much for human rights over there, yet we make Ivanka Trump a saint.

I don't believe ANY of them...

So tell me how we change it. You may want to check out the statistics but mixed marriages are on the rise. it is especially so in the Hispanic and Asian communities; albeit it has increased in the black community.

Our democracy (Republic) is build on the premise that ALL MEN are created equal. it would be naive' to believe that every citizen would abide by that belief but then that is why we have government for better or worse.

Personal Best Regards:

"When you have something more than just rumor get back to me. And I do not condemn a whole family because something one of its members has done. These are each different people."

The more I think of this sentence the more offended I become. You do not condemn an entire family you say......the Bush and the Clintons, politics aside have done more things for more people in one week than the Trumps can even imagine.

They are all very very rich, and have done not one thing for this country EVER in all of their lives. If you think that the daughter and son in law are not complicit, you are dreaming.

Why we idolize a liar and his family, who know, and demean others who actually and truely help others, who actually speak out on human rights.....well, I do not get it but it appears you have gone to that dark side where we get nothing done in this country as we fawn over more EXTREMLY RICH folks making more money at our expense and now we add the ingredient of that family simply lying when necessary.

Why would people who have such close access to, and are obviously aware of the dealings of such a person as Trump get a pass like this.

I just want to remind all who read that this thread is about HYPOCRISY at the highest possible level.

In 7 months Saudi money became clean suddenly...and ok to take.

I have done nothing of the sort. Just do not like it when people paint with a very broad brush. How about looking at each person rather than overgeneralizing!

If this thread is about hypocrisy at the highest level why is there no mention of all the hypocritical antics of
Obama
Clinton
Lynch
Rice
Holder
et al

It seems the media the supporters of and the followers and parrots of the party of the above have an obvious double standard.....more like they did and can do no wrong and anybody who beat them in the last election can do no right.

A merry go round with a predictable destination.

Actually very laughable.

You might read
 

There never was an american empire.

In your last paragraph,"As a student of history."
You see Trump as Hitler Like and I see Obama as Hitler Like.

Obama shares Hitler's ability to mass hypnotize large groups of people.

Your view that anyone that does not agree with you is either stupid or ignorant-is in large part what leads to the rise of a dictator.

WE SHOULD ALL BE THANKFUL THAT OUR SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT HAS PREVENTED THE RISE OF A DICTATOR.
We have been close several times-Washington-the people thought they wanted a king, Lincoln-suspended constitutional rights and vastly increased the power of the presidency, FDR-again vastly increased the power of central government and the presidency. About 20 of FDR's bills were declared UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Obama-while our FORMERLY FREE PRESS screamed about Bush and Chaney expanding presidential power there was not a peep about Obama. Last night on Fox news they reported that 90% of the stories on CNN and NBC are anti trump. They also reported under Obama 40% were anti Obama.

yOU WILL RESORT TO QUESTIONING THE SOURCE ETC-DO YOU NOT SEE THAT IS A SIMTUM OF THE PROBLEM IN THE US TODAY????

Wow as to your charge
 

As Trump admitted in the debates he, as a businessman, gave money to the Clintons in case he needed their ear. That was before the obviously corrupt CLINTON FOUNDATION became a news item.

Re: Saudi money
No one gives significant money with no strings attached.
Research Saudi money to American Colleges. Look up your school or school some family member does or has attended.
Syracuse, where I went has taken millions from the Saudis.
Suddenly, they have Muslim studies etc.

It is interesting, that as presented Trump wrote these deals. This is simply false-I HOPE. The deals were written by ??? Boeing and Lockheed martin and Trump simply allowed them to go through.

I DO THAT in every case. As I suggest, I THINK you should broaden your reading a bit....


Ivanka Trump and Women'''s Issues: A White House Balancing Act | Fortune.com

Is Ivanka Trump a passionate political advocate — or a businesswoman building her brand? - The Washington Post

Nothing blistering bad in either article, because she has done nothing for the country as of yet...only her and the family business.

That is not a bad thing in itself, but the hypocrisy and lying is genetic it appears.

Also, it should be noted that Jared Kushners father served two years for illegal political contributions and hiring a hooker to set up his brother in law. Now, out of prison his first hires to help Jared and he run the business....two ex cons and fellow prisoners. You would think a family might have some without this past.

Jared Kushner’s Felon Father Brought Two Fellow Inmates Into Company - Bloomberg

Thanks for those links. I will look into them.

We have the SCOTUS declare they got it wrong and the anchor babies were NOT under the jurisdiction of the government and are therefore NOT citizens. They go and their children too...or you lose your country to them...choose. They ARE the majority below age 7 and that number rises each year...within 30 year, Hispanics WILL be the majority and THEY will be running things.

Well...if our white women MUST screw outside the race/species...better them than the blacks which are REALLY a different species with different ancestors. Whites/Asians/Hispanics are like Darwin's finches, different species due to geographic separation...NOT because of a different ancestral heritage. Blacks came from a different base stock than everyone else, they lack the Neanderthal ancestor that we ALL have.

The founders did NOT consider the blacks to be men. We shouldn't either. Our problems started when we did. Our problems will get worse until we don't.

Those working for "human rights" are actually the ones lying to us. They will destroy America. Diversity will destroy America. The Hispanic majority will destroy America.

The 19 hijackers were supposedly from Saudi Arabia... Hypocrisy? We've been living with it a long time...

Are you kidding Susie? America has been an empire for a long long time. We have more military bases overseas than at home. Almost EVERY country has some form of an American base on it.

OUR government has been using Hitlers ability to mass hypnotize the people for decades. Take racial equality...a big lie...mass propaganda...beat into us until we believe it dispite ALL the evidence to the contrary. despite ALL evidence to the contrary...where IS the black villages? Black MIT? Black anything successful.

The SYSTEM is the dictator. The president is just the latest talking head that appears to run it...the latest CEO taking direction from the board. Paid to convince everyone how marvelous everything is and all the great new things we'll all be doing.

You sound like Adolph Hitler. The person who wrote that the brown black and foreigners will bring our country down was absolutely disgusting - such a racist bigot - God bless our country survives for what it was supossed to stand for.

Nixon is an interesting point
 

You might find it interesting to KNOW that Eisenhower, like Obama picked his successor and that was Nixon.

Just like Hillary and Obama, the nation was shocked by who won-KENNEDY.

UNLIKE OBAMA, EISENHOWER AIDED KENNEDY FOR THE NATION-FOR OUR NATION.

Typical of his world view, and apparently yours, OBAMA AND HIS TRIBE CHOOSE TO TEAR DOWN THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE-TRUMP.

Wouldn't it be exciting if Trump moved the middle east toward peace??? Bush, Clinton, Obama ALL HAVE FAILED.

It won't survive..."America" is finished...it will be replaced by Mexico II. It's inevitable...a mathematical certainty. Hispanics are ALREADY the majority of children being born...from here on out...it's just a matter of time.

Nigder adulation...It's everywhere and usually deceptive..

Yes it is...in the last 8 years...a coincidence?...blacks have been portrayed as "the boss", the "rich guy", the one with all the answers, the hero...with some white guy/guys working for them.

They've done the same with women...putting them in the starring, hero, big boss, rich lady, roles.

Trump sets sight on the big deal: Mideast peace - CNNPolitics.com

We will have to wait and see.

Yes, and so blatantly obvious... Kinda like the funny papers used to be , Entertaining to people that recognize it for what it is...

I don't watch many movies any more...As you said..they're so blatantly false and unreal. Especially the ones where the woman is such a badas$ that she can kick the as$ of 10 big strong buff men. I don't care WHO she is...she's not going to be able to kick even ONE big strong and trained to fight man. And the the blacks filling the role of the big corporate boss, the head of some government agency, the really smart hero, the all knowing wise man...and on and on...blacks are NEVER those people. How about the gays...GOTTA have a gay or two in EVERYTHING. Portrayed as everyday normal people...who's ONLY difference is they like a man's pen!s shoved up their butt as a show of affection.

I haven't watched network TV in at least a couple of decades...there is NOTHING on those channels worth anyone's time. They should be taken down as destructive to the nations mental health...making the population stupid. It's mindless...literally. It's an endless, constant stream, of propaganda, misinformation, and brainwashing.

It's ALL "fake news"...90% of it.