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Chi-Town 06-01-2017 04:57 PM

Paris Agreement
 
We're out but not alone. Trump has two allies.


Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Representative

"Syria and Nicaragua are the only nations that didn't sign the Paris Agreement. Nicaragua said it wasn't tough enough."

in a tweet – Thursday, June 1, 2017



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Allegiance 06-01-2017 05:00 PM

Incredible points, thank you.

ColdNoMore 06-01-2017 05:25 PM

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Posted by Guest
We're out but not alone. Trump has two allies.


Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Representative

"Syria and Nicaragua are the only nations that didn't sign the Paris Agreement. Nicaragua said it wasn't tough enough."

in a tweet – Thursday, June 1, 2017

So basically, we are now officially aligned...with Syria? :22yikes:


Not even in the genre of science fiction...could this have been predicted. :ohdear:

MDLNB 06-01-2017 05:32 PM

Apparently, hysteria rules the day with liberals, AGAIN. Why not listen to what Trump said, since you all seem to dwell on his tweets. He said that the deal was not good and that he wants to renegotiate a new deal where America comes before the rest of world. He has OUR interest at heart, not some delusion of being emperor of the world like Obama wished to become. Besides, America leads the world in emissions control and advancement. Learn a bit more of the situation before having a hissy fit.

maureenod 06-01-2017 06:04 PM

All you have to do is read what he did in Scotland. When he built his golf course he promised jobs, jobs, jobs. WHERE ARE THEY???

Some neighbors, that family have been on their land for 100s of years did not want to sell. What did vindictive Trump do?? He built 18 foot walls around their homes, and actually sent them a bill.

For years Trump has been fighting the erection of wind turbines, miles out to sea, BUT he can still view them. Of course, he as his "signature name calling", bully attitude when dealing with local government.

On the other side, as I posted before, his golf course in Ireland is falling into the sea. He wants to build a wall 2 miles long. Applied for permits claiming GLOBAL WARMING Doesn't care what impact it has on the sea, beach, marine life OR local farmers.

He is all about GREED AND ME, ME , ME.

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Rockyrd 06-01-2017 06:08 PM

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So basically, we are now officially aligned...with Syria? :22yikes:


Not even in the genre of science fiction...could this have been predicted. :ohdear:

He is finding out that he has made us followers now..not leaders, and nobody is any longer looking to our country for any kind of leadership


"France, Germany and Italy have no intention of renegotiating the Paris climate agreement, their leaders said Thursday in response to U.S. President Donald Trump’s announcement that he intends to withdraw and wants to broker another deal."


France, Germany and Italy: Paris deal ‘cannot be renegotiated’ – POLITICO

"European leaders dismissed Donald Trump’s claim that the Paris climate accord can be renegotiated after the US president announced he will pull out of the deal struck in 2015 to seek better terms.

Shortly after Trump’s announcement the leaders of France, Germany and Italy released a joint statement rejecting Trump’s assertion that the climate deal can be redrafted."


World leaders reject Trump's claim Paris climate deal can be renegotiated | Environment | The Guardian

"Three events in recent days dramatize the challenges facing the free world resulting from President Trump's lack of global leadership, the international stature of German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the dynamism of the newly-elected President of France, Emmanuel Macron."

OPINION: Countering Trump, Merkel and Macron look to lead free world | TheHill

"President Donald Trump may be calling his first foreign trip a "great success for America," but his stormy encounter with NATO leaders has pundits and world leaders shaking their heads in dismay.

An unnamed state department official reportedly said Trump acted like a "drunk tourist," and MSNBC political analyst Joan Walsh took it a step further saying, Trump "defeated the first woman president but he's now made a woman the leader of the free world because it's Angela Merkel right now. He has abdicated."

Rockyrd 06-01-2017 06:13 PM

"America will probably never send a woman like Merkel to the White House. A research scientist by training, with a doctorate in physical chemistry, she’s super smart and so unsexy she makes Hillary Clinton look hot. Totally devoid of glamour, Merkel has something more important: character, principle, and the courage to show contempt for an American president who lacks all of the above."

Merkel, not Trump, rules on the world stage - The Boston Globe

We have now passed that.."we could be the laughing stock of the world" direct to

We are the laughing stock of the world

Does President Trump really believe these countries will trade with us without eventual tariffs (higher prices to consumer) being applied ?

Taltarzac725 06-01-2017 06:14 PM

Ivanka Trump and Rex Tillerson tried to get the Donald to stay in the Paris Climate Agreement but were beaten by Bannon and Pruitt in their persuasion power over Trump.

ColdNoMore 06-01-2017 06:33 PM

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"America will probably never send a woman like Merkel to the White House. A research scientist by training, with a doctorate in physical chemistry, she’s super smart and so unsexy she makes Hillary Clinton look hot. Totally devoid of glamour, Merkel has something more important: character, principle, and the courage to show contempt for an American president who lacks all of the above."

Merkel, not Trump, rules on the world stage - The Boston Globe

We have now passed that.."we could be the laughing stock of the world" direct to

We are the laughing stock of the world

Does President Trump really believe these countries will trade with us without eventual tariffs (higher prices to consumer) being applied ?

This, of all of his whacked out actions and blathering...may have the largest silver lining.

He has now alienated a huge swath of American companies and businesses (not to mention concerned American citizens)...and will hopefully reap what he has sowed. :thumbup:

His sociopathic and narcissistic ego...WILL be his ultimate undoing. :popcorn:

Buffalo Jim 06-01-2017 10:14 PM

MSNBD Talking Points of the day : see above .

Let`s ignore the fact that :
1] OB never put the " Treaty " to a Congressional vote .
2] No restrictions on China but toughest standards on USA
3] US Taxpayers required to send Billions to China , India and other Nations to assist them with " Green Efforts ".
But hey let`s never ever let the facts stand in the way of another opportunity for " Trump Derangement " !
Fire away uninformed overly emotional Dims !

wjboyer1 06-01-2017 10:54 PM

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msnbd talking points of the day : See above .

Let`s ignore the fact that :
1] ob never put the " treaty " to a congressional vote .
2] no restrictions on china but toughest standards on usa
3] us taxpayers required to send billions to china , india and other nations to assist them with " green efforts ".
But hey let`s never ever let the facts stand in the way of another opportunity for " trump derangement " !
Fire away uninformed overly emotional dims !

1) its not a treaty
2) all goals are voluntary, but since the usa is the worst in green house gas production, they have the most to do
3) that is a fallicy

rubicon 06-02-2017 06:01 AM

The Devil Is In The Details
 
The Paris Accord's basic premise is on economic gain and supporting measures to effectively slow climate change.

The proponents to this Acord claim the economic benefit results from restricting access to the most abundant, reliable and affordable fuel sources . Yet Germany's aggressive expansion of wind and solar caused the magazine Der Spiegel to declare in 2013 that electricity has become a "luxury good" for Germans

Consider also that those with commercial interests strongly support the Paris Accord have all created programs to exploit and game the system by passing through the costs of the climate change agenda (Think/ Remember Enron).

It will slow climate change .Yet none of the nations to the Accord declared a measurable impact on climate change from either business or desired policies.

So does the Paris Accord spur a Us economy? Or is the US maintaining economic advantage by not subjecting itself to the arduous requirements of this agreement ?

The climate change agenda in large part is a propaganda scheme for making profit for a very few.

We all like green but we want it to be safe, effective and economical. The sky actually is not falling

Personal Best Regards:

Taltarzac725 06-02-2017 06:24 AM

What is the Paris climate agreement and what happens next? | WIRED UK

Do some research on the Paris Agreement rather than listening to the Trump trolls.

Taltarzac725 06-02-2017 06:33 AM

Pittsburgh's Mayor and Donald John Trump.
 
Trump Announces US Pull Out From Climate Pact << CBS Pittsburgh

Let's hope that our cities, county and state governments do the right thing for our future generations and take measures to curb pollution which is hurting our environment now. And that many of the Fortune 500 companies also get on board with this.

larbud 06-02-2017 07:10 AM

.....The Sun can't get through the smog in China so their solar panels are useless
The nations in the agreement are angry because they will not have access to our money. Better to let the market solve the climate problem. More efficient than government involvement. When you get India and China on board, then we can talk.

Taltarzac725 06-02-2017 07:31 AM

Paris Agreement: India, China step up as U.S. backs away from climate pledges - The Washington Post

This is interesting.

Don Baldwin 06-02-2017 09:23 AM

Oh yes...SURE it is...the biggest polluters are going to "step up" and fix the climate change problem...

I have a bridge...you'd LOVE it...people pay you to cross it...wanna get in on it? I can sell you a "certified" share...

Chi-Town 06-02-2017 09:29 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1405920)
MSNBD Talking Points of the day : see above .

Let`s ignore the fact that :
1] OB never put the " Treaty " to a Congressional vote .
2] No restrictions on China but toughest standards on USA
3] US Taxpayers required to send Billions to China , India and other Nations to assist them with " Green Efforts ".
But hey let`s never ever let the facts stand in the way of another opportunity for " Trump Derangement " !
Fire away uninformed overly emotional Dims !

BJ, good to see you back buddy. Sure have missed you. Don't be a stranger.

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autumnspring 06-02-2017 09:48 AM

You might wish to open your mind
 
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All you have to do is read what he did in Scotland. When he built his golf course he promised jobs, jobs, jobs. WHERE ARE THEY???

Some neighbors, that family have been on their land for 100s of years did not want to sell. What did vindictive Trump do?? He built 18 foot walls around their homes, and actually sent them a bill.

For years Trump has been fighting the erection of wind turbines, miles out to sea, BUT he can still view them. Of course, he as his "signature name calling", bully attitude when dealing with local government.

On the other side, as I posted before, his golf course in Ireland is falling into the sea. He wants to build a wall 2 miles long. Applied for permits claiming GLOBAL WARMING Doesn't care what impact it has on the sea, beach, marine life OR local farmers.

He is all about GREED AND ME, ME , ME.

I can't successfully post a link with this device. Just Google or someone will post it for me.

You are BLINDED by your hatred of Trump

RE: walls
Are you aware that Hillary had a wall built around her home
AND THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER PAID FOR IT.

RE: Windfarms.
Personally I do not find them ugly-sort of like a whirligig.
But, in truth, perhaps if there was one in my backyard, my view might change. Unrelated to Trump, on Long Island, people were all bent out of shape over a proposed off shore windfarm blocking the views from their multi million dollar homes-far as I know it has been blocked. For that matter, people on long island have blocked a liquid natural gas terminal also off shore,

RE: Eminent domain
Personal experience-we had a lot on Staten Island. It was between two nice homes. A reasonable guess as to value
when NYC tried to seize it by eminent domain was about 25-30,000. The city wanted to steal it for 6,000. Long story short. I was contacted by an atty. He got me 20,000 for a property worth 25 and he took 5,000 in fees.
OH and then NYC took over ten years to pay me the money-WITH NO INTEREST PAID.

WHEN, YOU GO TO COURT, WHEN YOU DEAL WITH GOVERNMENT, THERE ARE ALWAYS AT LEAST TWO OPPOSING PARTIES AND EITHER WILL BE ACCUSED OF A ME, ME, ME

Allegiance 06-02-2017 10:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1405957)
What is the Paris climate agreement and what happens next? | WIRED UK

Do some research on the Paris Agreement rather than listening to the Trump trolls.

You have no love life, no job, nothing but time. DID YOU READ THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT OR JUST TALKING POINT LIBERAL SITES WACKADOODLE?

Allegiance 06-02-2017 10:27 AM

The Paris Agreement - main page


Here it is for the wackadoodles. Spend a couple hours and report back the exact quantifiable part of the agreement you like the best.

Taltarzac725 06-02-2017 10:28 AM

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You have no love life, no job, nothing but time. DID YOU READ THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT OR JUST TALKING POINT LIBERAL SITES WACKADOODLE?

What makes you think I have no love life? Allegiance. *******! And I am very busy on something. I would not mention a girlfriend on TOTV because she would be none of you people's business. Certainly not many of the insulting people on the TOTV Political Forum.

Taltarzac725 06-02-2017 10:42 AM

No, Trump, China and India Aren’t Stealing Our Coal Jobs

Back to the actual subject of this thread rather than the stupid attacks on the person posting.

Allegiance 06-02-2017 10:59 AM

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No, Trump, China and India Aren’t Stealing Our Coal Jobs

Back to the actual subject of this thread rather than the stupid attacks on the person posting.

So you are too busy to look over the actual agreement, but you read every talking point liberal site?

Chi-Town 06-02-2017 11:00 AM

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You have no love life, no job, nothing but time. DID YOU READ THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT OR JUST TALKING POINT LIBERAL SITES WACKADOODLE?

Hey Al, we've got Screamin' Susie yelling all the time and now you yelling at Tal. Whst gives? If Tal is so deep into your head let BIG POPPA deal with it. Silencio, por favor.

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Allegiance 06-02-2017 11:02 AM

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Hey Al, we've got Screamin' Susie yelling all the time and now you yelling at Tal. Whst gives? If Tal is so deep into your head let BIG POPPA deal with it. Silencio, por favor.

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We don't want to anger papi. You might be sad he never played for the cubs.

Allegiance 06-02-2017 11:04 AM

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Hey Al, we've got Screamin' Susie yelling all the time and now you yelling at Tal. Whst gives? If Tal is so deep into your head let BIG POPPA deal with it. Silencio, por favor.

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Vocal woman are sometimes incredibly sexy.

Don't spoil how I visualize Susie.

When harry met sally 'I'll have what she's having' - YouTube

Taltarzac725 06-02-2017 11:09 AM

http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015...eng/l09r01.pdf

The text of the Paris Agreement.

Paris Agreement - Wikipedia

Taltarzac725 06-02-2017 11:10 AM

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Posted by Guest
Hey Al, we've got Screamin' Susie yelling all the time and now you yelling at Tal. Whst gives? If Tal is so deep into your head let BIG POPPA deal with it. Silencio, por favor.

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Bigpoppa does look like one of the posters kicked off of TOTV. David Ortiz - Wikipedia I wonder what David Ortiz would think of this jerk?

Allegiance 06-02-2017 12:18 PM

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Bigpoppa does look like one of the posters kicked off of TOTV. David Ortiz - Wikipedia I wonder what David Ortiz would think of this jerk?

Racist

MDLNB 06-02-2017 02:24 PM

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What makes you think I have no love life? Allegiance. *******! And I am very busy on something. I would not mention a girlfriend on TOTV because she would be none of you people's business. Certainly not many of the insulting people on the TOTV Political Forum.

Hey, tweeting Ivanka Trump does not count.............:a20:

Taltarzac725 06-02-2017 02:28 PM

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Hey, tweeting Ivanka Trump does not count.............:a20:

I Facebook her along with many other women.

MDLNB 06-02-2017 02:29 PM

Well, Trump saved American Taxpayers a couple trillion bucks by backing out of the Paris agreement. Thank you President Trump. It was garbage anyway. How any "educated" liberal could go along with it, is beyond logic. America is already doing better than the other countries, WITHOUT the stupid agreement that does not hold anyone else to the same standards. The agreement is just Obama's way to spread the wealth, period. Obama was an idiot. Did I say "was?"

Chi-Town 06-02-2017 02:34 PM

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Vocal woman are sometimes incredibly sexy.

Don't spoil how I visualize Susie.

When harry met sally 'I'll have what she's having' - YouTube

I was thinking more of Susie Essman from Curb Your Enthusiasm.

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Taltarzac725 06-02-2017 02:38 PM

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I was thinking more of Susie Essman from Curb Your Enthusiasm.

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Love that show. Not so much Susie Essman's character.

MDLNB 06-02-2017 02:51 PM

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I Facebook her along with many other women.

You facebook with other women? :shrug:

Allegiance 06-02-2017 03:03 PM

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You facebook with other women? :shrug:

There is a very good chance Tal is a sterile transgender.

Allegiance 06-02-2017 03:05 PM

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Buffalo Jim 06-02-2017 11:49 PM

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Posted by Guest
1) its not a treaty
2) all goals are voluntary, but since the usa is the worst in green house gas production, they have the most to do
3) that is a fallicy

Ever been to China ? I have and you can`t breathe the air !

No birds at all within the city of Bejing everyone wears a mask to try to filter the pollution out of the air they breathe .
However the US is the most guilty ! Yeah right !

Don Baldwin 06-03-2017 07:10 AM

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Posted by Guest
Ever been to China ? I have and you can`t breathe the air !

No birds at all within the city of Bejing everyone wears a mask to try to filter the pollution out of the air they breathe .
However the US is the most guilty ! Yeah right !

Because they sit in front of their TV and believe what the talking head tells them.


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