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Lottoguy 06-08-2017 11:10 PM

POLL Who Is Telling The Truth? Comey or Trump?
 
Let's get this unofficial poll started. Who do you think is telling the truth? James Comey or President Trump

wjboyer1 06-08-2017 11:27 PM

guess who got my vote?
 
Paul Ryan’s Excuse for Trump: He’s ‘Just New to This’

GOP’s New Defense of Trump: The Guy’s A Toddler, He Doesn’t Know Any Better

You know you're in trouble when you have to bring in a $1500 an hour lawyer from the big city. Donald Trump was driven to that today by the sworn testimony of the FBI director he fired.

All Americans should care when a sitting president abandons U.S. principles and tells the director of the FBI, "I need loyalty, I expect loyalty."

Allegiance 06-09-2017 12:02 AM

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Paul Ryan’s Excuse for Trump: He’s ‘Just New to This’

GOP’s New Defense of Trump: The Guy’s A Toddler, He Doesn’t Know Any Better

You know you're in trouble when you have to bring in a $1500 an hour lawyer from the big city. Donald Trump was driven to that today by the sworn testimony of the FBI director he fired.

All Americans should care when a sitting president abandons U.S. principles and tells the director of the FBI, "I need loyalty, I expect loyalty."

Go to bed boy

MDLNB 06-09-2017 06:35 AM

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Let's get this unofficial poll started. Who do you think is telling the truth? James Comey or President Trump

Depends on your definition of the truth.

Allegiance 06-09-2017 06:46 AM

They still don't get it. If Trump did everything comey said, it's a f...ing nothing Burger.

What Obama, Lynch, Clinton did is a "TREASONOUS HUGE TRIPLE Big Kahuna Burger.

TASTY BURGER - PULP FICTION - YouTube

Taltarzac725 06-09-2017 06:53 AM

All of Donald Trump’s Four-Pinocchio ratings, in one place - The Washington Post

The lies of Donald John Trump are beginning to look about the size of a New York City phone book. One from around 1974 too.

https://www.nypl.org/blog/2010/12/14...city-directory

Allegiance 06-09-2017 06:56 AM

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All of Donald Trump’s Four-Pinocchio ratings, in one place - The Washington Post

The lies of Donald John Trump are beginning to look about the size of a New York City phone book. One from around 1974 too.

I don't think they would let you alone in NYC.


Lol

Taltarzac725 06-09-2017 06:59 AM

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact


Now whom do objective people think is telling the truth about what was said between Donald James Trump and James Comey?

I will bet even my Facebook connection Ivanka Trump knows her father lies quite a bit.

Allegiance 06-09-2017 07:02 AM

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All of Donald Trump’s Four-Pinocchio ratings, in one place - The Washington Post

The lies of Donald John Trump are beginning to look about the size of a New York City phone book. One from around 1974 too.

Were you ever in NYC, on a "special" trip? There is no nyc phone book, each of the five counties/ boroughs has their own.

Taltarzac725 06-09-2017 07:04 AM

Analysis: James Comey's words and Donald Trump's future

Have a look see at the news of late.

jebartle 06-09-2017 07:09 AM

no question
 
Look at their history. Trump doesn't know how to tell the truth, period!!!!

Taltarzac725 06-09-2017 07:10 AM

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Look at their history. Trump doesn't know how to tell the truth, period!!!!


https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/u...a-birther.html

Can we all say birthers!

MDLNB 06-09-2017 07:30 AM

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All of Donald Trump’s Four-Pinocchio ratings, in one place - The Washington Post

The lies of Donald John Trump are beginning to look about the size of a New York City phone book. One from around 1974 too.

https://www.nypl.org/blog/2010/12/14...city-directory


The Wash.Post is fake news. Can't believe anything they say.

What lie did Trump tell that was revealed in the Comey testimony? Apparently, you are too stupid to see that his testimony vindicated what Trump said.

Lottoguy 06-09-2017 10:00 AM

The thing is all of the high priced lawyers will not take Trump on as a client. Number ONE he won't listen. Number TWO he won't pay his bills when you send them.

Lottoguy 06-09-2017 10:03 AM

So I guess when you tell EVERYONE to leave the room is normal? Nope, he knew exactly what he was doing. All of the TRUMP supporters are mad at Comey for being so clever to make detailed notes of the whole episode. If nothing happened then TRUMP should release the tapes (if there are any) of his conversation. Or was he lying about that too?

Warren Kiefer 06-09-2017 11:04 AM

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The Wash.Post is fake news. Can't believe anything they say.

What lie did Trump tell that was revealed in the Comey testimony? Apparently, you are too stupid to see that his testimony vindicated what Trump said.

THERE ARE SO MANY !!! how about trump saying Comey asked foe the diner meeting. This has been proven to be a lie !!

SoCOLDinNY 06-09-2017 11:19 AM

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THERE ARE SO MANY !!! how about trump saying Comey asked foe the diner meeting. This has been proven to be a lie !!

Is there a Liars Club in The Villages?

MDLNB 06-09-2017 01:56 PM

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THERE ARE SO MANY !!! how about trump saying Comey asked foe the diner meeting. This has been proven to be a lie !!

SO you could not answer the question. I figured as much. We're talking about what came out in the testimony, not as reported by fake news.

MDLNB 06-09-2017 01:57 PM

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Is there a Liars Club in The Villages?

Yes, there is. It is concurrent with the meeting of the Villages Democrats, all six of them.

Rockyrd 06-09-2017 03:10 PM

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THERE ARE SO MANY !!! how about trump saying Comey asked foe the diner meeting. This has been proven to be a lie !!

A message to Trump who has a vast long history on the record of lying and mistruths, as opposed to the former director of the FBI who testified under oath.

And also to Trump, who undercut his own Secy Of State today within one hour of Tilleson's remarks....
..

"It is a good thing to follow the First Law of Holes: if you are in It is a good thing to follow the First Law of Holes: if you are in one, stop digging.

MDLNB 06-09-2017 03:39 PM

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A message to Trump who has a vast long history on the record of lying and mistruths, as opposed to the former director of the FBI who testified under oath.

And also to Trump, who undercut his own Secy Of State today within one hour of Tilleson's remarks....
..

"It is a good thing to follow the First Law of Holes: if you are in It is a good thing to follow the First Law of Holes: if you are in one, stop digging.

I bet you know all about "holes."

Comey is a weak personality and a terrible leader. Even his own subordinates can't stand him. He is a petulant, immature baby that got fired because he was a poor leader and refused to do his job the way his job description dictated. Obama should have fired him, but Comey likely had something on him. Probably complicity with Hillary's felonies. How anyone can condone his leaking to the media, just shows how the left will stoop to any subbasement level to get ahead. Life always backfires on people like that.

Allegiance 06-09-2017 04:29 PM

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I bet you know all about "holes."

Comey is a weak personality and a terrible leader. Even his own subordinates can't stand him. He is a petulant, immature baby that got fired because he was a poor leader and refused to do his job the way his job description dictated. Obama should have fired him, but Comey likely had something on him. Probably complicity with Hillary's felonies. How anyone can condone his leaking to the media, just shows how the left will stoop to any subbasement level to get ahead. Life always backfires on people like that.

Reality winner is their new leader.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-09-2017 04:45 PM

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Reality winner is their new leader.

Reality needs to get in touch with......well......reality.


Reality Winner Plans to Play the 'I'm Pretty, White and Cute' CARD in COURT But Could Have a Problem as Investigators Find DAMNING Evidence - ReaganCoalition.com

MDLNB 06-09-2017 05:51 PM

She may be white, but pretty and cute, not so much. Heaven help her if she tries that on a female judge. She'll end up getting the max.

Rockyrd 06-09-2017 06:23 PM

Well, it appears we will know soon.

"(CNN)House and Senate investigators fired off a series of requests after former FBI Director James Comey's testimony, seeking memos of his private discussions with President Donald Trump and any records the White House kept of their discussion -- including audio recordings.

The leaders of the House Russia investigation, Reps. Michael Conaway, a Texas Republican, and Adam Schiff, a California Democrat, sent a request Friday directly to Comey for copies of his memos. They sent a separate request to Trump's White House counsel, Don McGahn, for any record the White House had of their meetings.
The House requested Comey and the White House provide the records, including tapes if they exist, by June 23."


Two Hill committees seek Comey memos, tapes - CNNPolitics.com

Rockyrd 06-09-2017 06:26 PM

Or from this way....

"After President Trump said Friday he is “100 percent” willing to testify under oath about the events that led to firing James Comey as FBI director, a House Democrat wants to take him up on it.

Within hours of Trump’s statement at a press conference in the White House Rose Garden, Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) called on House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) to invite the president before their panel.

“It is the House Judiciary Committee that should be the venue for the President to defend himself against the serious allegations of official misconduct, including but not limited to apparent attempts at obstruction of justice in the removal of Mr. Comey in order to relieve the ‘pressure’ the President was feeling from investigations related to his campaign’s ties to Russian meddling in America’s most recent presidential election,” Gutierrez, a member of the committee, wrote in a letter to Goodlatte. "


Judiciary Dem asks GOP chairman to invite Trump to testify in public | TheHill

Taltarzac725 06-09-2017 06:51 PM

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Or from this way....

"After President Trump said Friday he is “100 percent” willing to testify under oath about the events that led to firing James Comey as FBI director, a House Democrat wants to take him up on it.

Within hours of Trump’s statement at a press conference in the White House Rose Garden, Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) called on House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) to invite the president before their panel.

“It is the House Judiciary Committee that should be the venue for the President to defend himself against the serious allegations of official misconduct, including but not limited to apparent attempts at obstruction of justice in the removal of Mr. Comey in order to relieve the ‘pressure’ the President was feeling from investigations related to his campaign’s ties to Russian meddling in America’s most recent presidential election,” Gutierrez, a member of the committee, wrote in a letter to Goodlatte. "


Judiciary Dem asks GOP chairman to invite Trump to testify in public | TheHill

Will he even remember he said this??? By "he" I mean the President of the United States.

Cedwards38 06-09-2017 07:01 PM

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Paul Ryan’s Excuse for Trump: He’s ‘Just New to This’

GOP’s New Defense of Trump: The Guy’s A Toddler, He Doesn’t Know Any Better

You know you're in trouble when you have to bring in a $1500 an hour lawyer from the big city. Donald Trump was driven to that today by the sworn testimony of the FBI director he fired.

All Americans should care when a sitting president abandons U.S. principles and tells the director of the FBI, "I need loyalty, I expect loyalty."

Speaker Ryan, it's not that he is new to government, it's that he is new to ethics!

wjboyer1 06-09-2017 08:39 PM

Trump said he never demanded a pledge of loyalty....what another lie
 
act.tv - Defending himself today, Donald Trump asked what...

Nucky 06-09-2017 08:49 PM

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Is there a Liars Club in The Villages?

Any answer you get should be a lie! I say there is a Liars Club.:wave:

wjboyer1 06-09-2017 11:35 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Attachment 69373

half of the 8.8% that don't believe Comey are from The Villages....LOL

Attachment 69375

Attachment 69374

The latest Republican defense of Trump is built on a massive lie - The Washington Post

Trump asks for a pledge before, but denies it now....
Truth Examiner - Donald Trump LIES like normal people...

Allegiance 06-09-2017 11:37 PM

The lol is u! Did you also post the cnn presidential poll?

Go to bed with cnm, two losers

ColdNoMore 06-09-2017 11:52 PM

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Is there a Liars Club in The Villages?

There has to be and the officers of that club have been in the Political Forum of TOTV non-stop...desperately trying to defend the Liar In Chief. :1rotfl:

rubicon 06-10-2017 05:04 AM

POLL Who Is Telling The Truth? Come or Trump?

James Comey was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Matters (er Investigation). An agency under Obama that served as an arm of Hillary Clinton's campaign .

Loretta Lynch was the Attorneys General of the Department of Injustice (er Justice)

James "the Peacock" Comey was certainly no neophyte when it came to Washington ways. He well understood the nature of his duties and responsibilities and he understood the moral implications of the goings on at the Obama White House

James Comey's testimony was a classic example of an employee who was not executing his duties and responsibilities and side aside its moral implications because he was a coward and not inventing excuses as to why.

James Comey's testimony was troubling. he knew Trump was never under investigation, etc but failed to make it public. why? he claimed Trump asked for loyalty. Trump denied it but if it were true i suspect trump was trying to determine if comey too was an Obama leftover.

Loretta Lynch's dealing with bill and Hillary is a major faux perhaps (criminal) and yet ignored

The Obama spying scandal gets overlooked

And progressives want a poll on who is telling the truth. Far too many progressives have lost their minds.

So I ask what will progressives do and what damage have they done to this nation once the hysteria dies down and the Trump fake narrative is proven to be "fake"

Personal Best Regards:

Rockyrd 06-10-2017 07:33 AM

Progressives, liberals, conservatives, Tea Party........is not the most important thing...the United States of America.

This from a current associate dean at Yale law, and former FBI agent...


"But as a former FBI counterintelligence agent, what I saw as the most explosive aspect of the testimony didn’t involve any legal violation of the U.S. code or questions about whether Comey had broken established Department of Justice protocols. Instead, it was the prima facie evidence that Comey presented that Trump appears unwilling to uphold his oath “to preserve, protect, and defend” the country — which puts the security of our nation and its democracy at stake. In the nine times Trump met with or called Comey, it was always to discuss how the investigation into Russia’s election interference was affecting him personally, rather than the security of the country. He apparently cared little about understanding either the magnitude of the Russian intelligence threat, or how the FBI might be able to prevent another attack in future elections."

I was an FBI agent. Trump’s lack of concern about Russian hacking shocks me. - The Washington Post

Why allow yourself to be blinded by loyalty to a person who deserves it less than anyone.

Allegiance 06-10-2017 07:58 AM

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Progressives, liberals, conservatives, Tea Party........is not the most important thing...the United States of America.

This from a current associate dean at Yale law, and former FBI agent...


"But as a former FBI counterintelligence agent, what I saw as the most explosive aspect of the testimony didn’t involve any legal violation of the U.S. code or questions about whether Comey had broken established Department of Justice protocols. Instead, it was the prima facie evidence that Comey presented that Trump appears unwilling to uphold his oath “to preserve, protect, and defend” the country — which puts the security of our nation and its democracy at stake. In the nine times Trump met with or called Comey, it was always to discuss how the investigation into Russia’s election interference was affecting him personally, rather than the security of the country. He apparently cared little about understanding either the magnitude of the Russian intelligence threat, or how the FBI might be able to prevent another attack in future elections."

I was an FBI agent. Trump’s lack of concern about Russian hacking shocks me. - The Washington Post

Why allow yourself to be blinded by loyalty to a person who deserves it less than anyone.

Papi help! I can't deal with this demented old fool without you.

Rockyrd 06-10-2017 08:37 AM

RUBICON steadfastly blames all of the ills of the current administration on "progressives". He, almost daily, condemns ALL or anyone who disagrees as something vile and ill speaking.

Yet, we have now a person in the White House who, ON HIS HOWN with no interference, or push by 'progressives" or democrats.....in 4 1/2 months.....

.....Accused the ex FBI head of perjury

.....Accused the ex President of wire tapping

.....Fired 3 members of the Justice Department, who coincidently were investigating him or his associates.

.....Has confused our NATO allies to the point where they have turned their back and publicly stated they have no idea where our country is on the issues.

.....Yesterday, refused...I mean refused to condemn Russian aggression in Eastern Europe.

.....Yesterday, totally confused the mid east on the Qatar situation.

.....Maligns our Federal Bureau of Investigation to the entire world, with no substance, nor even one source of support

.....Maligns our Justice department to the entire world with nothing but his personal complaints.

.....Denies the existance of any Russian involvement in our election process, despite the entire world intelligence supporting it strongly and without a doubt.

.....Had to fire one security adviser for improper conduct and allow the world to wonder why he was not vetted.

.....Has an attorney general who lied during his confirmation hearings and is not under investigation again.

There is so much more but I know the response......it was all Clintons fault or Obama's fault.....all progressives are evil and I suppose "the devil made him do it".

But, make America Great....I think not and in fact it looks more like a deliberate attempt to downgrade our country, our reputation and to totally denegrate anything that is american.

The list above is not complete... and remember this is UNFORCED by our President, does not include all the blatant lies he has told, almost daily, and you say it is all the fault of "progressives" or Trump derangement syndrome of something like that.

I suggest that if you really and honestly believe that then you sir, are very very un american in your thoughts and words.

Why single out RUBICON ? The others who troll these boards, not with well thought out facts but simple immature stupidity presented for their entertainment, and you seem a bit studied but still present the same undocumented arguements and hope you might present some intelligent remarks as none of the above have anything to do with your mortal enemies....progressives.....but DO have to do with our great country.

jebartle 06-10-2017 11:40 AM

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RUBICON steadfastly blames all of the ills of the current administration on "progressives". He, almost daily, condemns ALL or anyone who disagrees as something vile and ill speaking.

Yet, we have now a person in the White House who, ON HIS HOWN with no interference, or push by 'progressives" or democrats.....in 4 1/2 months.....

.....Accused the ex FBI head of perjury

.....Accused the ex President of wire tapping

.....Fired 3 members of the Justice Department, who coincidently were investigating him or his associates.

.....Has confused our NATO allies to the point where they have turned their back and publicly stated they have no idea where our country is on the issues.

.....Yesterday, refused...I mean refused to condemn Russian aggression in Eastern Europe.

.....Yesterday, totally confused the mid east on the Qatar situation.

.....Maligns our Federal Bureau of Investigation to the entire world, with no substance, nor even one source of support

.....Maligns our Justice department to the entire world with nothing but his personal complaints.

.....Denies the existance of any Russian involvement in our election process, despite the entire world intelligence supporting it strongly and without a doubt.

.....Had to fire one security adviser for improper conduct and allow the world to wonder why he was not vetted.

.....Has an attorney general who lied during his confirmation hearings and is not under investigation again.

There is so much more but I know the response......it was all Clintons fault or Obama's fault.....all progressives are evil and I suppose "the devil made him do it".

But, make America Great....I think not and in fact it looks more like a deliberate attempt to downgrade our country, our reputation and to totally denegrate anything that is american.

The list above is not complete... and remember this is UNFORCED by our President, does not include all the blatant lies he has told, almost daily, and you say it is all the fault of "progressives" or Trump derangement syndrome of something like that.

I suggest that if you really and honestly believe that then you sir, are very very un american in your thoughts and words.

Why single out RUBICON ? The others who troll these boards, not with well thought out facts but simple immature stupidity presented for their entertainment, and you seem a bit studied but still present the same undocumented arguements and hope you might present some intelligent remarks as none of the above have anything to do with your mortal enemies....progressives.....but DO have to do with our great country.

BRAVO, well said, unfortunately, most, not all Republicans, have their head in the sand, or will divert any subject to Hillary or Obama. Even if
they believe the obvious or not, facts and truth, will always beat out, lies and more lies, Trump the Liar-in-chief!

Rockyrd 06-10-2017 11:52 AM

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BRAVO, well said, unfortunately, most, not all Republicans, have their head in the sand, or will divert any subject to Hillary or Obama. Even if
they believe the obvious or not, facts and truth, will always beat out, lies and more lies, Trump the Liar-in-chief!

It is simply amazing to me how FAR DOWN THE LIST OF PRIORITIES this country is as seen by these people.

They are loyal to a devious, life time liar and manipulator who is playing this as a role in a tv show....recall his statement how it doesnt matter, he will still be rich?.....simply boggles my mind that these same people who uttered the words MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN are not supporting tearing America to the ground in the name of what.....HATE.

Hate for any person who loves the country but does not fit into their mold.

How arrogant and how destructive.....think about what this man has wrought on this country in less than 5 months. The list is staggering and the guy who my post was aimed at, blames it ALL on a group he calls progressives. Have no idea who or what that means, he does not feel his hate needs to be more directly aimed, but the country sure is not first.

Last few days, for me, have destroyed totally any hope.

This man does not care....he will verbally taunt patriots in front of world leaders....he will demean on a world stage our media, our systems and loyal patriots.

These posters are just like him....NOTHING IS THE FAULT OF THIS MAN....IT IS ALWAYS SOMEBODY ELSE'S FAULT AND like him these posters enjoy saying it and posting it.

They could give a crap about this country.

rubicon 06-10-2017 03:25 PM

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BRAVO, well said, unfortunately, most, not all Republicans, have their head in the sand, or will divert any subject to Hillary or Obama. Even if
they believe the obvious or not, facts and truth, will always beat out, lies and more lies, Trump the Liar-in-chief!

Here we go again with the alinsky attempts. progressives will gain credibility when they demand that the "allegations" that are founded on fact as worthy of further investigating against Obama. Clinton. Holder. Lynch, Leaner, et al. Oh yet the aforementioned are only MATTERS. Yea, Lynch just was visting with slick willy about grand kids. No hacking or breaches with Hillary's personal server. Learner was not targeting conservative groups. Obama wasn't use the intelligence community for political purposes. Geeezzz

Too many progressives are highly emotional, quick to judge and believe they always hold the high moral ground.

As to Trump I have said repeatedly that if he did what the progressives claim then fire him but to date there is zero evidence

Most of the country is tired with the obsession/obstruction of all things Trump because their feelings got hurt that Hillary was a terrible candidate.

It is not the russians that are the man problem. It is the Administrative State (Deep State) Federal bureaucracy of unelected people who have been allowed to usurp our Congress.

Personal Best Regards:


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