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rubicon 06-13-2017 03:53 AM

This Is A Genuine Concern
 
What should be a genuine concern for American citizens is either embraced, ignored or overlook.

Today's news continues to be filled with hyper-partisan innuendo, falsity and plain nonsense.

The framers created our Republican with its separation of powers specifically because of the royal prerogatives of English kings that they knew dominated citizens lives.

Citizens ought to focus on the immense power of the administrative state ( regulatory stated,deep state). It is government within government (federal agencies) and run by the president.

For far too long unelected bureaucrats have written, interpreted and enforced their own laws in their own courts. This is a blatant violation of the Constitution and has essentially gutted the Bill of Rights .

The framers were clear about this in writing the Constitution wherein the Preamble and Article 1 begins
"ALL legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress"

Look at the sweeping powers of the IRS

Title IX passed to protect women from employment discrimination was manipulated by a president under the Education Department issuing orders about transgender bathrooms AND to mandate campus tribunals to adjudicate sexual misconduct including verbal misconduct or speech that operated no better than a Star Chamber

And the legislative abuses past ,present and seemingly will continue in the future unless Congress stands up on his hind legs and fights back. and we haven't even address the legislating that is coming from the Supreme Court

This is not a Republican or Democrat issue. This is an issue that affects all American citizen because it has the potential of a coup d'etat without the faintest sign of a struggle

My interpretation of an article written by Philip Hamburger Editor Manhattan Institute City Journal


Personal Best Regards:

wjboyer1 06-13-2017 04:49 AM

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Posted by Guest
What should be a genuine concern for American citizens is either embraced, ignored or overlook.

Today's news continues to be filled with hyper-partisan innuendo, falsity and plain nonsense.

The framers created our Republican with its separation of powers specifically because of the royal prerogatives of English kings that they knew dominated citizens lives.


Framers created a Democratic Republic (not Republican)


Quote:

Posted by Guest
Citizens ought to focus on the immense power of the administrative state ( regulatory stated,deep state). It is government within government (federal agencies) and run by the president.

For far too long unelected bureaucrats have written, interpreted and enforced their own laws in their own courts. This is a blatant violation of the Constitution and has essentially gutted the Bill of Rights .

The framers were clear about this in writing the Constitution wherein the Preamble and Article 1 begins
"ALL legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress"

Look at the sweeping powers of the IRS

PLEASE CHECK OUT WHAT ADMINISTRATIVE LAW IS, BEFORE YOU START A RANT THAT DOES NOT ACTUALLY MAKE A POINT: First Year Legal Research Guide: Administrative Law Administrative Law - First Year Legal Research Guide - LibGuides at Loyola University Chicago Law Library

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Posted by Guest
Title IX passed to protect women from employment discrimination was manipulated by a president under the Education Department issuing orders about transgender bathrooms AND to mandate campus tribunals to adjudicate sexual misconduct including verbal misconduct or speech that operated no better than a Star Chamber

I am a supporter of equal rights FOR EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN. So, if you gotta pee, you gotta pee. If women are raped without judicial retribution, there should be a remedy but campus remedies are being found to be totally inadequate and court proceedings have historically made the woman out as not the victim. But, both of these are rather complex problems that deserve more than a sentence to even describe, let alone place blame.

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And the legislative abuses past ,present and seemingly will continue in the future unless Congress stands up on his hind legs and fights back. and we haven't even address the legislating that is coming from the Supreme Court

Uhhhh, the Congress IS the Legislative branch, and has historically been slow to act because of the process of creating and signing a Bill into Law. Perhaps you are focussing upon the MEMBERS of Congress, who seem to have more interest in re-election and the deep pockets (of money) that enable their re-election rather than representing their constituency. SCOTUS is the last step in the legal path in determining a law's Constitutionality, so the law has to exist, before SCOTUS can even come into the picture. That basic fact conflicts with the statement that you made here.

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Posted by Guest
This is not a Republican or Democrat issue. This is an issue that affects all American citizen because it has the potential of a coup d'etat without the faintest sign of a struggle

My interpretation of an article written by Philip Hamburger Editor Manhattan Institute City Journal


Personal Best Regards:

You are correct that these issues are AMERICAN issues, but we are seeing a reflection of our biased and polarized society in our lawmakers which makes ANY legislation difficult to pass because each side is too busy YELLING at the other side that they are WRONG.
Compromise has been the norm in Congress until the past 2 decades when we have seen a significant shift in total polarization.

Don Baldwin 06-13-2017 05:56 AM

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Posted by Guest
Framers created a Democratic Republic (not Republican)




PLEASE CHECK OUT WHAT ADMINISTRATIVE LAW IS, BEFORE YOU START A RANT THAT DOES NOT ACTUALLY MAKE A POINT: First Year Legal Research Guide: Administrative Law Administrative Law - First Year Legal Research Guide - LibGuides at Loyola University Chicago Law Library



I am a supporter of equal rights FOR EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN. So, if you gotta pee, you gotta pee. If women are raped without judicial retribution, there should be a remedy but campus remedies are being found to be totally inadequate and court proceedings have historically made the woman out as not the victim. But, both of these are rather complex problems that deserve more than a sentence to even describe, let alone place blame.



Uhhhh, the Congress IS the Legislative branch, and has historically been slow to act because of the process of creating and signing a Bill into Law. Perhaps you are focussing upon the MEMBERS of Congress, who seem to have more interest in re-election and the deep pockets (of money) that enable their re-election rather than representing their constituency. SCOTUS is the last step in the legal path in determining a law's Constitutionality, so the law has to exist, before SCOTUS can even come into the picture. That basic fact conflicts with the statement that you made here.



You are correct that these issues are AMERICAN issues, but we are seeing a reflection of our biased and polarized society in our lawmakers which makes ANY legislation difficult to pass because each side is too busy YELLING at the other side that they are WRONG.
Compromise has been the norm in Congress until the past 2 decades when we have seen a significant shift in total polarization.

Because of a changing demographic. White people were 90% of the population 60 years ago...within the last 20 years the numbers of minorities has risen. Now we are at a 50:50 split. Now Hispanic births are more than half...more than 50%. As the minorities begin to dominate numbers wise, they will also dominate socially and politically. THIS is why America has dropped from #1 to #25. THIS is why America has pretty much been stagnant the last almost 20 years...minorities don't drive an economy, they suck from it. 40% of blacks are on welfare...36% of Hispanics...ONLY 13% of whites.

America isn't going to recover...it will continue to drop as it "darkens". We had to double the national debt, adding $10 trillion, just to keep the economy going. The federal government IS the economy with a $4.5 trillion a year budget. EVERY formerly white place that becomes a majority black/hispanic...eventually collapses...every one. They certainly don't remain world leaders. You are committing national, cultural, and genetic genocide. Willingly. You're HELPING them to breed you out of your own country...you're PAYING them to destroy America and turn it into Mexico II.

We spend over a $ trillion each year on welfare to mostly minorities who have grown so large in numbers that they're now literally NOT minorities but half the population...and growing. Within 30 years white will number only 20-25%. Making white men, the drivers of the economy only 10% of the population. You think there's a shortage of skilled workers now? Wait until the white men are almost gone...this country is going to suck. A country run by blacks and Hispanics...ALWAYS becomes a sh!thole. Name me ONE that is great...that makes the top 10? Top 25? Top 50? Maybe top 100...

Don't throw it all away...don't give it away...to a bunch of losers who can't do anything unless the standards are lowered and they get a quota. Who can't even keep their own neighborhoods CLEAN...nobody works...and they can't clean up? Who are ignorant and prefer to stay that way, who ALWAYS destroy schools when they become the majority. Don't give it away to another species.

wjboyer1 06-13-2017 06:03 AM

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Because of a changing demographic. White people were 90% of the population 60 years ago...within the last 20 years the numbers of minorities has risen. Now we are at a 50:50 split. As the minorities begin to dominate numbers wise, they will also dominate socially and politically. THIS is why America has dropped from #1 to #25. THIS is why America has pretty much been stagnant the last almost 20 years...minorities don't drive an economy, they suck from it. 40% of blacks are on welfare...36% of Hispanics...ONLY 13% of whites.

America isn't going to recover...it will continue to drop as it "darkens". EVERY formerly white place that becomes a majority black/hispanic...eventually collapses...every one. They certainly don't remain world leaders. You are committing national, cultural, and genetic genocide. Willingly. You're HELPING them to breed you out of your own country...you're PAYING them to destroy America and turn it into Mexico II.

Your racist rants are becoming quite tiresome. You cannot quantify (verifiable facts) that there is ANY cause and effect, but rather use ambiguous analogies to support your illogical conclusions. Perhaps a KKK rally or a skin-head rally, or a Nazi rally would be your better audience.

Don Baldwin 06-13-2017 06:36 AM

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Your racist rants are becoming quite tiresome. You cannot quantify (verifiable facts) that there is ANY cause and effect, but rather use ambiguous analogies to support your illogical conclusions. Perhaps a KKK rally or a skin-head rally, or a Nazi rally would be your better audience.

EVERY country that has gone from a white majority/white rule...to a black majority/black rule has failed...Haiti, Jamaica, S Africa...ALL OF THEM. What more proof do you need?

There is not ONE truly successful Hispanic run country either...none in the top 10 or top 25...those are ALL white and Asian.

WHAT has gotten better when it was invaded by blacks? What neighborhood? What school? What town/city? What country?

What IS tiresome is your constantly calling me names but ALWAYS lacking ANYTHING to show I'm wrong.

Where IS the 99% black villages equivalent? Where IS the 99% black Harvard? (I'm sorry I can't compare a 99% white school to a 99% black school as federal laws require quotas so there will always be a minimum number of blacks at any given school). Where is the great 99% black city? 99% black country.

You SHOW me I'm wrong boyer and I'll gladly admit it. You can't...but you hold onto that dogma you were brainwashed with...equality...you can't even comprehend the possibility that they're a different species...2-5% different than "us", as different from us as we are from actual chimpanzees. EVERYONE has "Neanderthal DNA" except the Negros...those black "people" who look VERY different than EVERY other race. Blacks are NOT us.

wjboyer1 06-13-2017 06:49 AM

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EVERY country that has gone from a white majority/white rule...to a black majority/black rule has failed...Haiti, Jamaica, S Africa...ALL OF THEM. What more proof do you need?

There is not ONE truly successful Hispanic run country either...none in the top 10 or top 25...those are ALL white and Asian.

WHAT has gotten better when it was invaded by blacks? What neighborhood? What school? What town/city? What country?

What IS tiresome is your constantly calling me names but ALWAYS lacking ANYTHING to show I'm wrong.

Where IS the 99% black villages equivalent? Where IS the 99% black Harvard? (I'm sorry I can't compare a 99% white school to a 99% black school as federal laws require quotas so there will always be a minimum number of blacks at any given school). Where is the great 99% black city? 99% black country.

You SHOW me I'm wrong boyer and I'll gladly admit it. You can't...but you hold onto that dogma you were brainwashed with...equality...you can't even comprehend the possibility that they're a different species...2-5% different than "us", as different from us as we are from actual chimpanzees. EVERYONE has "Neanderthal DNA" except the Negros...those black "people" who look VERY different than EVERY other race. Blacks are NOT us.

Again, KKK, Neo-Nazi, Skin-head rallies are your audience.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-13-2017 07:01 AM

I think that every person in this country needs to read a book called,"The Ruling Class: Inside our Imperial Congress", by Eric Felton. It is eye opening and reveals exactly what this OP is talking about in great detail with actual incidents.

Don Baldwin 06-13-2017 07:27 AM

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Again, KKK, Neo-Nazi, Skin-head rallies are your audience.

They already know the truth...it's YOU who needs to be in the audience...so you can LEARN something...to have YOUR eyes opened.

WHERE are they equal? Show me boyer...show us all how successful they are. Show us the black villages. The black MIT.

This country is crashing and burning...this country has been invaded...those groups you chide, they're trying to SAVE you from them.

What part of Hispanics are having the majority of children and are becoming the absolute majority which will transform America into a Mexico II don't you understand? WHY would you ENCOURAGE it by PAYING them to breed you out?

wjboyer1 06-13-2017 07:48 AM

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They already know the truth...it's YOU who needs to be in the audience...so you can LEARN something...to have YOUR eyes opened.

WHERE are they equal? Show me boyer...show us all how successful they are. Show us the black villages. The black MIT.

This country is crashing and burning...this country has been invaded...those groups you chide, they're trying to SAVE you from them.

What part of Hispanics are having the majority of children and are becoming the absolute majority which will transform America into a Mexico II don't you understand? WHY would you ENCOURAGE it by PAYING them to breed you out?

It seems that you fear becoming a minority, perhaps it is because you fear that the new majority groups will treat YOU as you have treated them. A very interesting statistic coming from all the colleges and universities in North America shows that degrees (Associates, Bachelors, Masters, and pHD's) have INCREASED in all "minority" groups where they have DECREASED significantly in whites. Perhaps you should be afraid........

dbussone 06-13-2017 08:20 AM

This Is A Genuine Concern
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1410861)
Framers created a Democratic Republic (not Republican)




PLEASE CHECK OUT WHAT ADMINISTRATIVE LAW IS, BEFORE YOU START A RANT THAT DOES NOT ACTUALLY MAKE A POINT: First Year Legal Research Guide: Administrative Law Administrative Law - First Year Legal Research Guide - LibGuides at Loyola University Chicago Law Library



I am a supporter of equal rights FOR EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN. So, if you gotta pee, you gotta pee. If women are raped without judicial retribution, there should be a remedy but campus remedies are being found to be totally inadequate and court proceedings have historically made the woman out as not the victim. But, both of these are rather complex problems that deserve more than a sentence to even describe, let alone place blame.



Uhhhh, the Congress IS the Legislative branch, and has historically been slow to act because of the process of creating and signing a Bill into Law. Perhaps you are focussing upon the MEMBERS of Congress, who seem to have more interest in re-election and the deep pockets (of money) that enable their re-election rather than representing their constituency. SCOTUS is the last step in the legal path in determining a law's Constitutionality, so the law has to exist, before SCOTUS can even come into the picture. That basic fact conflicts with the statement that you made here.



You are correct that these issues are AMERICAN issues, but we are seeing a reflection of our biased and polarized society in our lawmakers which makes ANY legislation difficult to pass because each side is too busy YELLING at the other side that they are WRONG.
Compromise has been the norm in Congress until the past 2 decades when we have seen a significant shift in total polarization.



The framers created a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. (Not yelling, just correcting.)


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Don Baldwin 06-13-2017 08:42 AM

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It seems that you fear becoming a minority, perhaps it is because you fear that the new majority groups will treat YOU as you have treated them. A very interesting statistic coming from all the colleges and universities in North America shows that degrees (Associates, Bachelors, Masters, and pHD's) have INCREASED in all "minority" groups where they have DECREASED significantly in whites. Perhaps you should be afraid........

Of course I fear whites becoming the minority...we're what hold this country...this civilization together. Do you think the new majority will provide welfare for half the white population? Do you think we'll get preferential treatment and quotas? Do you think there will be entire divisions in businesses just to look out for white people's rights? They will treat us like they treat each other...or worse. You're literally letting the inmates run the asylum.

Because they're pushed into school with lowered standards, quotas, courses of study a chimp could pass, free money to attend, they're given EVERY advantage. There's over a $ trillion in outstanding student loans. Much of it given to minorities to be wasted.

America's demographics IS changing...we're at 50:50 now...and becoming a minority majority.

I am VERY afraid for America's future...for the future of the white race. We ARE being bred out.

graciegirl 06-13-2017 10:11 AM

I too am tired of the constant barrage from the main stream media; the same sources that in the past I had trusted to report the news and the facts and now I read mostly opinion of young and untried journalists.

I understand that a lot of hits are a lot of votes and that means money.

It is only once in awhile that I find an old fashioned article with facts rather than the author's interpretation. FROM anyone. I am talking The New York Times, Reuters, AP, USA Today, Newsweek, The Washington Post (one of the worst) ...etc. etc.

I would like to hear what happened and form my own opinion. I am sick of titles that look like tabloids.

I constantly scroll down to feedback and try to explain this without emotion.

I get so angry at times when I read that a bunch of people are going to "march through Philadelphia against Trump". Even if it were reversed, even when it was reversed, most traditional people don't wear stupid hats, march, carry signs, gather and "resist". They work, they pay taxes, they save so they can buy homes in good school districts so that their kids can have the best opportunities.

I see on Facebook the results of THEIR efforts; the faces of children and grandchildren who have become good solid citizens with jobs and the same family values. Not a single one that I know of wasted time on theatrics like marching. But sadly, they somehow survived the brainwashing liberal colleges and it will take years for them to have life clear their brains of it. Apples don't usually end up too far from their trees. I have hope.

rubicon 06-13-2017 02:28 PM

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Framers created a Democratic Republic (not Republican)




PLEASE CHECK OUT WHAT ADMINISTRATIVE LAW IS, BEFORE YOU START A RANT THAT DOES NOT ACTUALLY MAKE A POINT: First Year Legal Research Guide: Administrative Law Administrative Law - First Year Legal Research Guide - LibGuides at Loyola University Chicago Law Library



I am a supporter of equal rights FOR EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN. So, if you gotta pee, you gotta pee. If women are raped without judicial retribution, there should be a remedy but campus remedies are being found to be totally inadequate and court proceedings have historically made the woman out as not the victim. But, both of these are rather complex problems that deserve more than a sentence to even describe, let alone place blame.



Uhhhh, the Congress IS the Legislative branch, and has historically been slow to act because of the process of creating and signing a Bill into Law. Perhaps you are focussing upon the MEMBERS of Congress, who seem to have more interest in re-election and the deep pockets (of money) that enable their re-election rather than representing their constituency. SCOTUS is the last step in the legal path in determining a law's Constitutionality, so the law has to exist, before SCOTUS can even come into the picture. That basic fact conflicts with the statement that you made here.



You are correct that these issues are AMERICAN issues, but we are seeing a reflection of our biased and polarized society in our lawmakers which makes ANY legislation difficult to pass because each side is too busy YELLING at the other side that they are WRONG.
Compromise has been the norm in Congress until the past 2 decades when we have seen a significant shift in total polarization.

Poster whomever you are thank you for an intelligent response.

It was an intentional abridgement of this post on my part to spare the reader time and to provide opportunity for others to join in on this conservation.

We can all speak to equal rights, etc but the point to be made here is a simple one. Unelected officials are running this nation. Or in other words citizens votes mean nothing.

I made mention of the campus rape issue because it is a prime example of where this Administrative State stripped citizens of their due process rights. There are a plethora of examples of the abuses made at the hands of this bureaucracy in every administration.

This Administrative State has devised in effect a Star Chamber ( ie the king's perogative) . Its a dangerous situation and it has to be stopped.

I fault Congress for a lot of this because they are allowing these federal agencies to ursurp their authority.

I understand how the judicial system works. The point is that the Supreme Court with the exception of Anton Scalia ( God rest his soul) legislates from the bench. that is not their right or duty. I believe social issues ought to be left to the individual states

I am approaching this issue from an non-partisan view.

This Administrative State could take over this nation and its citizens would even notice.

Finally you appear to be defensive as to the issue of Administrative Law. Let me again be clear I am speaking to the issue of abuse and manipulation of the Administrative State and its legal procedures. One cannot be judge, jury and executioner in this REPUBLIC.

Personal Best Regards:

Rockyrd 06-13-2017 03:22 PM

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I too am tired of the constant barrage from the main stream media; the same sources that in the past I had trusted to report the news and the facts and now I read mostly opinion of young and untried journalists.

I understand that a lot of hits are a lot of votes and that means money.

It is only once in awhile that I find an old fashioned article with facts rather than the author's interpretation. FROM anyone. I am talking The New York Times, Reuters, AP, USA Today, Newsweek, The Washington Post (one of the worst) ...etc. etc.

I would like to hear what happened and form my own opinion. I am sick of titles that look like tabloids.

I constantly scroll down to feedback and try to explain this without emotion.

I get so angry at times when I read that a bunch of people are going to "march through Philadelphia against Trump". Even if it were reversed, even when it was reversed, most traditional people don't wear stupid hats, march, carry signs, gather and "resist". They work, they pay taxes, they save so they can buy homes in good school districts so that their kids can have the best opportunities.

I see on Facebook the results of THEIR efforts; the faces of children and grandchildren who have become good solid citizens with jobs and the same family values. Not a single one that I know of wasted time on theatrics like marching. But sadly, they somehow survived the brainwashing liberal colleges and it will take years for them to have life clear their brains of it. Apples don't usually end up too far from their trees. I have hope.

These last two posts are Trump hardcore and deliver his same message that he HOPES will take hold.

TRUST ME.....all these things are not true...they are lying...the media lies....ALL buzzwords from the campaign.

YET...when a post that is totally factual is delivered here you have no response...NONE. You are totally and completely unable to supply any facts to back up your serious charges against people just doing their jobs.

THE MEDIA IS 99% RIGHT ON TARGET. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO CALL OTHERS LIARS WITHOUT BACKING IT UP.

THEY REPORT WHAT TRUMP SAYS AND DOES AND HE SAYS IT IS FAKE NEWS AND YOU PARROT IT....GREAT.

Yet, we are to believe you ? Amazing how he and his followers are all the same....anything bad is not real and not facts....ONLY WHAT I SAY is factual, although he uses fake news from Fox in front of the German leader and you say nothing.....you folks do not like the news, that I can understand, but you just cannot call people liars

Based on your post, I assume you do not believe that Russia hacked and try to sway our election.....neat....calling ALL the intelligence agencies liars.....if you disagree, at least once complain about that and ask the President to lend his support to the investigation instead of impeding.

Rockyrd 06-13-2017 03:26 PM

I will repeat what I said earlier.

You only complain if it is anti Trump...ONLY...everything else is factual it seems,

You never express concern over Russia......dont you even care or is that fake news also.

Rockyrd 06-13-2017 03:34 PM

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I too am tired of the constant barrage from the main stream media; the same sources that in the past I had trusted to report the news and the facts and now I read mostly opinion of young and untried journalists.

I understand that a lot of hits are a lot of votes and that means money.

It is only once in awhile that I find an old fashioned article with facts rather than the author's interpretation. FROM anyone. I am talking The New York Times, Reuters, AP, USA Today, Newsweek, The Washington Post (one of the worst) ...etc. etc.

I would like to hear what happened and form my own opinion. I am sick of titles that look like tabloids.

I constantly scroll down to feedback and try to explain this without emotion.

I get so angry at times when I read that a bunch of people are going to "march through Philadelphia against Trump". Even if it were reversed, even when it was reversed, most traditional people don't wear stupid hats, march, carry signs, gather and "resist". They work, they pay taxes, they save so they can buy homes in good school districts so that their kids can have the best opportunities.

I see on Facebook the results of THEIR efforts; the faces of children and grandchildren who have become good solid citizens with jobs and the same family values. Not a single one that I know of wasted time on theatrics like marching. But sadly, they somehow survived the brainwashing liberal colleges and it will take years for them to have life clear their brains of it. Apples don't usually end up too far from their trees. I have hope.

Are any of these true or just made up...

Donald Trump's boasts about accomplishments in office ring hollow | PolitiFact

Poll: Trump disapproval hits record 60 percent | TheHill

Did he lie about Qatar ???

Did he mis quote and then attack the Mayor of London while he, the mayor was under terrorist attack ?

Did the administration lie when they said they came up with 50,000 new jobs in the coal industry ?

This is just off the top of my head right now.

YES...the news is horrible.....news today is only about Trump and what he does and what he says. You can call everyone else but him liars but that is quite surreal.

I applaud anyone, liberal or conservative that is marching demanding the President of the United States tell the truth

You are really hung up on your own self righteous self

Rockyrd 06-13-2017 03:56 PM

It appears that our Trump loyalist are moving toward this...you know...do not report facts and if you do, it is FAKE.

"Some of the biggest anti-Kremlin protests in years swept across Russia on Monday with over 1,000 people detained by the police ahead of a presidential election next year. But anyone relying on state TV would have concluded they were a non-event.

Vremya, state TV's flagship evening news show, relegated news of the protests to item nine of 10, and, in a report lasting around 30 seconds, said less than 2,000 people had shown up in Moscow. Some 150 people had been detained for disobeying the police elsewhere in the city, it said.

The main news of the day, according to Vremya, had instead been President Vladimir Putin's handing out of state awards.

The Internet, awash with images and videos of police hauling people off across the country and, in at least one case, of a protester being punched, had a different take.

A live feed organized by opposition leader Alexei Navalny, who was detained in Moscow before he could attend what the authorities said was an illegal protest, showed demonstrations in scores of cities from Vladivostok to St Petersburg and thousands of people converging on central Moscow."


In Russia, state TV and the Internet tell a tale of two protests
| Reuters

Allegiance 06-13-2017 05:49 PM

Rockhead 4 posts in a row.... wackadoodle.

I guess he did not read wikileaks = msm is agent for liberals.

I guess he missed comey = msm = fake news.

Senile rockhead = wackadoodle.

Please quote me so wackadoodle see it.

MDLNB 06-13-2017 06:48 PM

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Rockhead 4 posts in a row.... wackadoodle.

I guess he did not read wikileaks = msm is agent for liberals.

I guess he missed comey = msm = fake news.

Senile rockhead = wackadoodle.

Please quote me so wackadoodle see it.

All of them are wackypoodles. Not one of them are concerned about the country. They ALL talk about what Trump said, like a bunch of gossipy school girls. Not one of them dares learn anything of current events, unless there is a rumor from one of the liberal Pravdas that make up some misquote coming from Trump. Who cares what he says?

Trump is doing an amazing job of cleaning up the mess left behind, that is always left behind in public housing. One day, these little girls are going to wake up and wonder what everyone is talking about when they find out that things are getting better and better in America.

Obamacare is falling apart and their homes are about to slide off the cliff and they are worried about what Trump said ten or twenty years ago.

Reports have come out today that health insurance in some states has doubled, some states increased a hundred percent or more. Everyone is pulling out of Obamacare, and the leftards want to keep it. What a bunch of idiots.

Chi-Town 06-13-2017 09:47 PM

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Rockhead 4 posts in a row.... wackadoodle.

I guess he did not read wikileaks = msm is agent for liberals.

I guess he missed comey = msm = fake news.

Senile rockhead = wackadoodle.

Please quote me so wackadoodle see it.

If 4 posts in a row makes you a wackadoodle then you are the poster child for one.

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Allegiance 06-13-2017 09:56 PM

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If 4 posts in a row makes you a wackadoodle then you are the poster child for one.

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Good point, I meant to say 4 long wackadoodle posts in a row.

You are becoming annoying.

God bless our president.

wjboyer1 06-13-2017 11:22 PM

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Poster whomever you are thank you for an intelligent response.

It was an intentional abridgement of this post on my part to spare the reader time and to provide opportunity for others to join in on this conservation.

We can all speak to equal rights, etc but the point to be made here is a simple one. Unelected officials are running this nation. Or in other words citizens votes mean nothing.

Please elaborate on what unelected officials are "running this nation". Apparently when 49% of the electorate decide not to vote, the 25% wins elections.


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I made mention of the campus rape issue because it is a prime example of where this Administrative State stripped citizens of their due process rights. There are a plethora of examples of the abuses made at the hands of this bureaucracy in every administration.

I suggest you read about Title IX, since it does NOTHING to strip due process rights from individuals, rather is a parallel civil procedure to enact rights for victims.
Why schools handle sexual violence reports - Know Your IX

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This Administrative State has devised in effect a Star Chamber ( ie the king's perogative) . Its a dangerous situation and it has to be stopped.

Assuming there is this "administrative state" or "star chamber", in your mind, perhaps other aluminum headgear would be better at tuning into those conspiracy theories.

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I fault Congress for a lot of this because they are allowing these federal agencies to ursurp their authority.

Since Congress delegated the authority to have the federal agencies operate, they also have a system (GAO) of investigating any management problems, cost overruns, fraud, and any other untoward activity of the agencies.....so, exactly what agencies, at what times usurped their authority? Verifiable factual information would be most appreciated since this charge is very significant, and cannot be just thrown against the wall to see what sticks.

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I understand how the judicial system works. The point is that the Supreme Court with the exception of Anton Scalia ( God rest his soul) legislates from the bench. that is not their right or duty. I believe social issues ought to be left to the individual states

. Just what has SCOTUS legislated from the bench? It is literally impossible because they only react to laws that have been challenged. Just what social issues should be handled by the States? Are you suggesting that certain "rights" be only granted in those States where their legislature has granted those rights? Isn't it in the Constitution that all citizens enjoy the same rights, no matter what State they live in or visit?

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I am approaching this issue from an non-partisan view.

This Administrative State could take over this nation and its citizens would even notice.

It is evident that you are NOT approaching these issues from a non-partisan view. Perhaps you do not agree with: The Necessity of The purpose of our Federal Government, as found in the Preamble of the Constitution, is to "establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity."

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Finally you appear to be defensive as to the issue of Administrative Law. Let me again be clear I am speaking to the issue of abuse and manipulation of the Administrative State and its legal procedures. One cannot be judge, jury and executioner in this REPUBLIC.

Personal Best Regards:

Actually, I am in defense of our Constitutional Republic, where there are laws that are supposed to guarantee our rights, including the right of due process (which means that there cannot be a unilateral judge, jury, and executioner).

wjboyer1 06-13-2017 11:55 PM

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Of course I fear whites becoming the minority...we're what hold this country...this civilization together. Do you think the new majority will provide welfare for half the white population? Do you think we'll get preferential treatment and quotas? Do you think there will be entire divisions in businesses just to look out for white people's rights? They will treat us like they treat each other...or worse. You're literally letting the inmates run the asylum.

Because they're pushed into school with lowered standards, quotas, courses of study a chimp could pass, free money to attend, they're given EVERY advantage. There's over a $ trillion in outstanding student loans. Much of it given to minorities to be wasted.

America's demographics IS changing...we're at 50:50 now...and becoming a minority majority.

I am VERY afraid for America's future...for the future of the white race. We ARE being bred out.

you left out the part of my post that stated that you should be afraid of "minorities" because of how you treat them now.....

Don Baldwin 06-14-2017 04:48 AM

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you left out the part of my post that stated that you should be afraid of "minorities" because of how you treat them now.....

I DID answer...

"Do you think the new majority will provide welfare for half the white population? Do you think we'll get preferential treatment and quotas? Do you think there will be entire divisions in businesses just to look out for white people's rights?"

We DO all that for them NOW...we provide welfare for almost half their population. They DO get preferential treatment and quotas. There ARE entire divisions in business to ensure their "rights" are looked after.

MDLNB 06-14-2017 09:50 AM

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you left out the part of my post that stated that you should be afraid of "minorities" because of how you treat them now.....

Kind of a racist post, saying minorities are dangerous.

rubicon 06-14-2017 12:19 PM

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Please elaborate on what unelected officials are "running this nation". Apparently when 49% of the electorate decide not to vote, the 25% wins elections.




I suggest you read about Title IX, since it does NOTHING to strip due process rights from individuals, rather is a parallel civil procedure to enact rights for victims.
Why schools handle sexual violence reports - Know Your IX


Assuming there is this "administrative state" or "star chamber", in your mind, perhaps other aluminum headgear would be better at tuning into those conspiracy theories.


Since Congress delegated the authority to have the federal agencies operate, they also have a system (GAO) of investigating any management problems, cost overruns, fraud, and any other untoward activity of the agencies.....so, exactly what agencies, at what times usurped their authority? Verifiable factual information would be most appreciated since this charge is very significant, and cannot be just thrown against the wall to see what sticks.

. Just what has SCOTUS legislated from the bench? It is literally impossible because they only react to laws that have been challenged. Just what social issues should be handled by the States? Are you suggesting that certain "rights" be only granted in those States where their legislature has granted those rights? Isn't it in the Constitution that all citizens enjoy the same rights, no matter what State they live in or visit?



It is evident that you are NOT approaching these issues from a non-partisan view. Perhaps you do not agree with: The Necessity of The purpose of our Federal Government, as found in the Preamble of the Constitution, is to "establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity."



Actually, I am in defense of our Constitutional Republic, where there are laws that are supposed to guarantee our rights, including the right of due process (which means that there cannot be a unilateral judge, jury, and executioner).



Here is a truism the liberals solutions to every government failure is more government. So the concept of the Administrative State
( Regulatory State, Deep State) is not even noticed by them and hence not a concern and actually has the appearance of the natural order of things.

Set aside the 2-4 year ritual of elections because it isn't who was elected but who is really running things. Government by unelected experts is not all that different that the royal prerogatives of monarchies .

Essentially by volume and complexity and through edicts, fiats, regulations, policies, etc issued by federal agencies far exceeds those of Congress.

This has allowed the government to choose to proceed against a citizen within the constitutional process or to choose an administrative proceeding where a citizen not have the right to be heard by a real judge and jury and thus you are not afforded the full due process of law

Look at the libertines Lois Leaner believed she was so entitled.

Look at the 1984 sounding EPA Scientific Integrity Office which also takes libertines in deciding what is settled science.

Research the abuses of Title IX start with Lara Kipnis book Unwanted Advances which features the Cho v Ludlow sexual assault case .

To ensure clarity let me underscore that the one and only point I am making is that as the Federal Administrative State grows in size and power the greater the risk we will lose our inalienable rights.

Personal Best Regards:

Don Baldwin 06-14-2017 12:36 PM

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Here is a truism the liberals solutions to every government failure is more government. So the concept of the Administrative State
( Regulatory State, Deep State) is not even noticed by them and hence not a concern and actually has the appearance of the natural order of things.

Set aside the 2-4 year ritual of elections because it isn't who was elected but who is really running things. Government by unelected experts is not all that different that the royal prerogatives of monarchies .

Essentially by volume and complexity and through edicts, fiats, regulations, policies, etc issued by federal agencies far exceeds those of Congress.

This has allowed the government to choose to proceed against a citizen within the constitutional process or to choose an administrative proceeding where a citizen not have the right to be heard by a real judge and jury and thus you are not afforded the full due process of law

Look at the libertines Lois Leaner believed she was so entitled.

Look at the 1984 sounding EPA Scientific Integrity Office which also takes libertines in deciding what is settled science.

Research the abuses of Title IX start with Lara Kipnis book Unwanted Advances which features the Cho v Ludlow sexual assault case .

To ensure clarity let me underscore that the one and only point I am making is that as the Federal Administrative State grows in size and power the greater the risk we will lose our inalienable rights.

Personal Best Regards:

Whites will lose their inalienable rights as the minority majority grows...

We're already asked to stay away...stay home...so the minorities can be free of us.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-15-2017 06:16 AM

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Please elaborate on what unelected officials are "running this nation". Apparently when 49% of the electorate decide not to vote, the 25% wins elections.




I suggest you read about Title IX, since it does NOTHING to strip due process rights from individuals, rather is a parallel civil procedure to enact rights for victims.
Why schools handle sexual violence reports - Know Your IX


Assuming there is this "administrative state" or "star chamber", in your mind, perhaps other aluminum headgear would be better at tuning into those conspiracy theories.


Since Congress delegated the authority to have the federal agencies operate, they also have a system (GAO) of investigating any management problems, cost overruns, fraud, and any other untoward activity of the agencies.....so, exactly what agencies, at what times usurped their authority? Verifiable factual information would be most appreciated since this charge is very significant, and cannot be just thrown against the wall to see what sticks.

. Just what has SCOTUS legislated from the bench? It is literally impossible because they only react to laws that have been challenged. Just what social issues should be handled by the States? Are you suggesting that certain "rights" be only granted in those States where their legislature has granted those rights? Isn't it in the Constitution that all citizens enjoy the same rights, no matter what State they live in or visit?



It is evident that you are NOT approaching these issues from a non-partisan view. Perhaps you do not agree with: The Necessity of The purpose of our Federal Government, as found in the Preamble of the Constitution, is to "establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity."



Actually, I am in defense of our Constitutional Republic, where there are laws that are supposed to guarantee our rights, including the right of due process (which means that there cannot be a unilateral judge, jury, and executioner).

Please read this book.

The Ruling Class: Inside the Imperial Congress: Eric Felten: 9780895267320: Amazon.com: Books

It explains a lot of what is being discussed here.

rubicon 06-15-2017 12:17 PM

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Please read this book.

The Ruling Class: Inside the Imperial Congress: Eric Felten: 9780895267320: Amazon.com: Books

It explains a lot of what is being discussed here.

Exactly

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