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Lottoguy 06-19-2017 10:59 PM

White House Says No Video Or Audio In Press Room
 
Looks like the White House which is owned by the people of the United States doesn't want us to know what is going on? They have instructed Sean Spicer who is paid by the people of the United States to not speak to any recording devices. This administration is going back to the stones ages. Sad...

Rockyrd 06-20-2017 06:07 AM

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Looks like the White House which is owned by the people of the United States doesn't want us to know what is going on? They have instructed Sean Spicer who is paid by the people of the United States to not speak to any recording devices. This administration is going back to the stones ages. Sad...

VERY SAD....they see truth as the enemy.

ColdNoMore 06-20-2017 06:36 AM

Not real surprising, when you realize what a chaotic cluster*uck this administration has become. :oops:

Between Chump constantly contradicting himself and his communications staff, the only choice they have is to make sure nothing is recorded...so that they can try and whine about it being 'fake news' and not being humiliated every time they turn around. :1rotfl:

The only problem of course, is that the main culprit is the POTUS himself and his whining and lying Twitter rants...which most likely (hopefully) will continue. :D

jebartle 06-20-2017 06:48 AM

surely this must concern ALL AMERICANS
 
It would be interesting to see if Trump supporters think this is a good idea???

ColdNoMore 06-20-2017 06:56 AM

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It would be interesting to see if Trump supporters think this is a good idea???

I'm betting that most Trump Cultists...think this is a great idea.

I'm sure their sphincter muscles contract, every time Trump Tweets something and then a press conference is held...and the two contradict each other. :oops:

The next step will to have press conferences, where only the most respected and reputable sources such as Brietbart/Infowars/Zerohedge/Etc....will be allowed to attend. :ohdear:

And yes, for you Trump Cultists/Apologists, I am being HIGHLY facetious about those sources being anything more...than fake news propagandists. :popcorn:

Taltarzac725 06-20-2017 07:56 AM

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Looks like the White House which is owned by the people of the United States doesn't want us to know what is going on? They have instructed Sean Spicer who is paid by the people of the United States to not speak to any recording devices. This administration is going back to the stones ages. Sad...

That's very troubling. Do they think they are kings now even though the King and Queen of Britain would know better than to try this kind of stuff in the UK. List of British monarchs - Wikipedia

Elizabeth II - Wikipedia

MDLNB 06-20-2017 08:12 AM

Sorry, I was laughing and could not respond. I can't stop thinking about how you liberal sissies are all up in a tizzy about this. You all are so entertaining. Can't wait to see what the midterms bring us when the left starts harping on why they should be elected. So far, not one lefty has discussed policies or issues other than what Trump says on a tweet or gossip about what is happening in his social life. Since half of you are gay, this reads more like Entertainment magazine.

Want my response on your hysteria regarding the subject? I don't care.

Taltarzac725 06-20-2017 08:17 AM

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Sorry, I was laughing and could not respond. I can't stop thinking about how you liberal sissies are all up in a tizzy about this. You all are so entertaining. Can't wait to see what the midterms bring us when the left starts harping on why they should be elected. So far, not one lefty has discussed policies or issues other than what Trump says on a tweet or gossip about what is happening in his social life. Since half of you are gay, this reads more like Entertainment magazine.

Want my response on your hysteria regarding the subject? I don't care.

This is so simply irrelevant to anything on here. And I know of NO gays/lesbians who are posting on the TOTV Political Forum. They probably know better. And you would not be able to tell if a poster was actually gay or not from what he or she wrote. I am just going by the names revealed when you Quote Post and Scroll.

MDLNB 06-20-2017 08:38 AM

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This is so simply irrelevant to anything on here. And I know of NO gays/lesbians who are posting on the TOTV Political Forum. They probably know better. And you would not be able to tell if a poster was actually gay or not from what he or she wrote. I am just going by the names revealed when you Quote Post and Scroll.

Tal, I realize that you are not gay. You like young girls...........:a20: Hey, don't be so defensive. It's your right to come out of the closet if you wish. I do not have any problem with the gay posters on here, other than that they are liberal. Now, go play on your library thread and build up your post count.

Don Baldwin 06-20-2017 08:50 AM

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This is so simply irrelevant to anything on here. And I know of NO gays/lesbians who are posting on the TOTV Political Forum. They probably know better. And you would not be able to tell if a poster was actually gay or not from what he or she wrote. I am just going by the names revealed when you Quote Post and Scroll.

Because they'd be destroyed with REAL facts about the dangers of their abhorrent lifestyle.

Same reason there's no blacks posting...they'd be destroyed by the facts too.

At least the women try...

Taltarzac725 06-20-2017 08:52 AM

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Tal, I realize that you are not gay. You like young girls...........:a20: Hey, don't be so defensive. It's your right to come out of the closet if you wish. I do not have any problem with the gay posters on here, other than that they are liberal. Now, go play on your library thread and build up your post count.

Actually I like someone female about 45 to 55 if it is any of your goddamn business.

Trump still sucks Putin's dick though.

MDLNB 06-20-2017 09:04 AM

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Actually I like someone female about 45 to 55 if it is any of your goddamn business.

Trump still sucks Putin's dick though.

It's not my business, but it seems that your whole life story is everyone's business, when you put your whole biography on line. I do not care if you fantasize about the Trumps, and what Trump might be doing with someone else. That is your personal business, and if you are bi-sexual is not my business either. That's what I keep saying to all of you perverts. Keep your sexual preferences to yourself. Your preference for young girls or Putin's ***k is your business.

Don't you have a post count to work on over at your personal library thread? Better hurry and add some more views to it before they close it.

Lottoguy 06-20-2017 10:15 AM

Even Fox News doesn't think this is a good idea. "When you control the press, you control the people" Joseph Stalin

Chi-Town 06-20-2017 10:23 AM

Two incoherent posts by MDCPD and Donny/Danny B. They never fail to deliver.

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justjim 06-20-2017 01:03 PM

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Sorry, I was laughing and could not respond. I can't stop thinking about how you liberal sissies are all up in a tizzy about this. You all are so entertaining. Can't wait to see what the midterms bring us when the left starts harping on why they should be elected. So far, not one lefty has discussed policies or issues other than what Trump says on a tweet or gossip about what is happening in his social life. Since half of you are gay, this reads more like Entertainment magazine.

Want my response on your hysteria regarding the subject? I don't care.

Well, I care and I'm certainly not on the left but I can see the lack of transparency coming out of the White House (the people's house)as another mistake and at best a lack of respect for the American people. The White House is not Trump Tower it's the people's house. What The h... is this----kindergarten? As a Republican, I have never been more disappointed in a Republican administration.

Taltarzac725 06-20-2017 02:28 PM

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Well, I care and I'm certainly not on the left but I can see the lack of transparency coming out of the White House (the people's house)as another mistake and at best a lack of respect for the American people. The White House is not Trump Tower it's the people's house. What The h... is this----kindergarten? As a Republican, I have never been more disappointed in a Republican administration.

It is reality TV. That's what you get with Donald John Trump. Except Johnny Rotten is not making up a dead mother to keep from getting kicked off the island.

MDLNB 06-20-2017 03:35 PM

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Two incoherent posts by MDCPD and Donny/Danny B. They never fail to deliver.

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Who's MDCPD, Chi? Maybe I know him/her? Hope I am not making fun of your dyslexia. Some folks have real afflictions, so I don't want to demean them. Others are just stupid. They are fair game.

MDLNB 06-20-2017 03:41 PM

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Well, I care and I'm certainly not on the left but I can see the lack of transparency coming out of the White House (the people's house)as another mistake and at best a lack of respect for the American people. The White House is not Trump Tower it's the people's house. What The h... is this----kindergarten? As a Republican, I have never been more disappointed in a Republican administration.

NO, it is not the people's house. It's housing for the President as well as his office. No other president has ever been attacked as much as this one, so I do not blame him for changing up things to keep the fools of the press from gaining more ammunition to use against him. And yes, I also wish he would cut back on the tweets, although I have never read any of them. I don't do tweets so I do not see the big liberal problem. Only the left worries about such trivial things instead of serious issues.
At least it is not a brothel that it would have been if the Clintons moved back in.

Joe De Vito 06-20-2017 03:48 PM

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Sorry, I was laughing and could not respond. I can't stop thinking about how you liberal sissies are all up in a tizzy about this. You all are so entertaining. Can't wait to see what the midterms bring us when the left starts harping on why they should be elected. So far, not one lefty has discussed policies or issues other than what Trump says on a tweet or gossip about what is happening in his social life. Since half of you are gay, this reads more like Entertainment magazine.

Want my response on your hysteria regarding the subject? I don't care.

You must only listen to Fox. The Democrats haven't made it quite known what the Republicans are doing with health care. If that is not an issue or policy, what is it?

I know the answer. It is 17 male Republicans sitting around a round table with the right hand on the lap of the person to their right. Republicans only know right. Can't invite a Democrat, because his hand only goes left. So one Republican will not enjoy the fun of having his alter ego stroked. Can't invite a woman, because there is nothing to grab there. All you will get is air, and grief. What old man needs that?

Who wants to talk about Trump's social life other than Trump himself? So, the Russians hacking into our election affected Trump's social life. It certainly did. It gave him a job he can't handle. That is destroying his social life, and not his life on the golf course. Golf course. You know the place that he said he wouldn't be on, because he would be doing the work of the people.

MDLNB 06-20-2017 04:50 PM

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You must only listen to Fox. The Democrats haven't made it quite known what the Republicans are doing with health care. If that is not an issue or policy, what is it?

I know the answer. It is 17 male Republicans sitting around a round table with the right hand on the lap of the person to their right. Republicans only know right. Can't invite a Democrat, because his hand only goes left. So one Republican will not enjoy the fun of having his alter ego stroked. Can't invite a woman, because there is nothing to grab there. All you will get is air, and grief. What old man needs that?

Who wants to talk about Trump's social life other than Trump himself? So, the Russians hacking into our election affected Trump's social life. It certainly did. It gave him a job he can't handle. That is destroying his social life, and not his life on the golf course. Golf course. You know the place that he said he wouldn't be on, because he would be doing the work of the people.

It must be frustrating for the left to sit outside the closed door like the GOP had to when obiecare was created. Let's face it, the only reason the lefters want in is so they can start a ruckus to hinder progress. The left hates the fact that Trump played the game their way, using their dirty politics and won. Hopefully, the Republicans in congress will learn from it. In the old days, they called it guerrilla warfare when they fought against the redcoats.

Joe De Vito 06-20-2017 05:18 PM

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It must be frustrating for the left to sit outside the closed door like the GOP had to when obiecare was created. Let's face it, the only reason the lefters want in is so they can start a ruckus to hinder progress. The left hates the fact that Trump played the game their way, using their dirty politics and won. Hopefully, the Republicans in congress will learn from it. In the old days, they called it guerrilla warfare when they fought against the redcoats.

It might be easy to forget what the Republicans did for eight years under Obama. There were over 140 open meetings for Obamacare. There were 165 amendments both Democrat and Republican. The door was wide open when Obamacare was being discussed.

However from day one, the Republicans plan was to obstruct, and filibuster everything Obama did. The Republicans sure did learn from what they did, and are doing everything they can to make sure the tactics they applied don't get used on them. HYPOCRICY are its highest.

Trump played the Democrats game. It must be difficult to say that with a straight face. Then again you are Republican. Lying with a straight face isn't a talent. It is a requirement.

Trump lies so much that fact checkers can't keep up with him. Trump supporters are going to get what they desire a lot of nothing.

Rockyrd 06-20-2017 05:27 PM

Trump has been office for FIVE MONTHS.....investigation into whether Russia tried to sway the elections was concluded and reported in January. ALL of the United States Intelligence Community..ALL, plus other countries joining in announced there was NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that they DID attempt and DID hack. Recently we find evidence they actually got into, but did not sway anything but DID intrude into a few states voting machines.

TODAY at the WH briefing this took place..


"White House press secretary Sean Spicer said on Tuesday that he had not yet spoken to President Trump about whether he believes Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election.

"I have not sat down and talked to him about that specific thing. Obviously, we've been dealing with a lot of other issues today,"


Spicer says he hasn't talked to Trump about Russian election meddling | TheHill

Perhaps because of talk like that from the White House....

"President Trump has hit another new personal low in another approval poll — this one showing that only 36% of Americans support his performance so far.

The new poll put out by CBS News Tuesday morning shows Trump with the lowest approval in that survey since he took office. His disapproval rating, meanwhile, has jumped to 57%."


President Trump hits new low for approval rating in CBS News poll - NY Daily News

Most shocking........

"Meanwhile, Trump has shown little interest in the multiple congressional investigations into Russia’s cyber attacks on the campaign."

Does he know that he is President of the United States ?

Rockyrd 06-20-2017 05:34 PM

But then again...Max Boot, "an American author, consultant, editorialist, lecturer, and military historian.[1] He has been an advocate of American values in foreign policy. He once described his ideas as "American might to promote American ideals."[2] Boot worked as a writer and editor for Christian Science Monitor and then for The Wall Street Journal in the 1990s. He is now Jeane J. Kirkpatrick Senior Fellow in National Security Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. He has written for numerous publications such as The Weekly Standard, The Los Angeles Times, and The New York Times, and he has also authored books of military history. He is in favor of limited government at home and American leadership abroad."



Wrote in Foreign Policy magazine.....two pretty good sources of information....


"Donald Trump Is Proving Too Stupid to Be President"

"The surest indication of how not smart Trump is that he thinks his inability or lack of interest in acquiring knowledge doesn’t matter. He said last year that he reaches the right decisions “with very little knowledge other than the knowledge I [already] had, plus the words ‘common sense,’ because I have a lot of common sense and I have a lot of business ability.”

How’s that working out? There’s a reason why surveys show more support for Trump’s impeachment than for his presidency. From his catastrophically ill-conceived executive order on immigration to his catastrophically ill-conceived firing of Comey, his administration has been one disaster after another. And those fiascos can be ascribed directly to the president’s lack of intellectual horsepower."




The article is chock full of examples of how "smart" our President actually is....

ARTICLE ENDS WITH THIS.....

"The 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides that if the vice president and a majority of the cabinet certify that the president is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office,” he can be removed with the concurrence of two-thirds of both houses. That won’t happen, because Republicans are too craven to stand up to Trump. But on the merits perhaps it should. After nearly five months in office, Trump has given no indication that he possesses the mental capacity to be president."

Donald Trump Is Proving Too Stupid to Be President | Foreign Policy

ColdNoMore 06-20-2017 06:27 PM

Of course there are no tapes.

Chump is used to being a medium-sized fish, in a small pond and is used to bullying and threatening...to get his way.

He is now waaaay in over his head intellectually, integrity and ethically wise...and he's not even smart enough to have figured that out yet. :oops:

Comey looked him in the eye (had to look down of course :D), called his bluff and testified knowing that if Trump actually had a recording that proved Comey wrong...it would be devastating to Comey's credibility.

Well, I guess anyone with a modicum of intelligence... knows how that's turning out. :1rotfl:

Trump is nothing more than a thug who is used to lying, threatening, suing and bullying.


And you Trump Cultists bought it...hook, line and sinker. :ohdear:

Rockyrd 06-20-2017 06:44 PM

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Of course there are no tapes.

Chump is used to being a medium-sized fish, in a small pond and is used to bullying and threatening...to get his way.

He is now waaaay in over his head intellectually, integrity and ethically wise...and he's not even smart enough to have figured that out yet. :oops:

Comey looked him in the eye (had to look down of course :D), called his bluff and testified knowing that if Trump actually had a recording that proved Comey wrong...it would be devastating to Comey's credibility.

Well, I guess anyone with a modicum of intelligence... knows how that's turning out. :1rotfl:

Trump is nothing more than a thug who is used to lying, threatening, suing and bullying.


And you Trump Cultists bought it...hook, line and sinker. :ohdear:

The age of patriotism seems to be dead.

These people think accusing people of felonies with no substantiation by a man who has never in 70 years done one single thing for his country is making America great.

These people think publicly and on a world stage criticizing his own country's judicial system, all 17 intelligence agencies, firing three (3) justice employees because they were investigating him is making America great.

So much more, but these simple minded posters will come on here, label everyone, attack with venom and lies thise who do not stand at attention, attack and lie about the media because they report truth and bow to this man.

Education in history and of course basic civic courses would have helped these folks for sure

wjboyer1 06-20-2017 08:44 PM

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because they'd be destroyed with real facts about the dangers of their abhorrent lifestyle.

Same reason there's no blacks posting...they'd be destroyed by the facts too.

At least the women try...

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Lottoguy 06-20-2017 11:14 PM

The White House has always been considered the peoples house. This is why tours are given out every day of the year. Why would you say it is not?
The people's house - The White House - war, election, domestic, second

jblum315 06-21-2017 08:50 AM

That's because Bannon says Spicer is getting too fat. Almost as fat as his boss!

MDLNB 06-21-2017 12:27 PM

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The White House has always been considered the peoples house. This is why tours are given out every day of the year. Why would you say it is not?
The people's house - The White House - war, election, domestic, second

Apparently, you forgot that Obama closed the tours and raised the fence (to keep Americans OUT).

MDLNB 06-21-2017 12:28 PM

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Of course there are no tapes.

Chump is used to being a medium-sized fish, in a small pond and is used to bullying and threatening...to get his way.

He is now waaaay in over his head intellectually, integrity and ethically wise...and he's not even smart enough to have figured that out yet. :oops:

Comey looked him in the eye (had to look down of course :D), called his bluff and testified knowing that if Trump actually had a recording that proved Comey wrong...it would be devastating to Comey's credibility.

Well, I guess anyone with a modicum of intelligence... knows how that's turning out. :1rotfl:

Trump is nothing more than a thug who is used to lying, threatening, suing and bullying.


And you Trump Cultists bought it...hook, line and sinker. :ohdear:

And you will still be a whiny lil' bit*h through the year 2020. Why don't you go get your nails done or something?

MDLNB 06-21-2017 12:37 PM

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It might be easy to forget what the Republicans did for eight years under Obama. There were over 140 open meetings for Obamacare. There were 165 amendments both Democrat and Republican. The door was wide open when Obamacare was being discussed.

However from day one, the Republicans plan was to obstruct, and filibuster everything Obama did. The Republicans sure did learn from what they did, and are doing everything they can to make sure the tactics they applied don't get used on them. HYPOCRICY are its highest.

Trump played the Democrats game. It must be difficult to say that with a straight face. Then again you are Republican. Lying with a straight face isn't a talent. It is a requirement.

Trump lies so much that fact checkers can't keep up with him. Trump supporters are going to get what they desire a lot of nothing.

Sure, open meetings my @ss! It was totally done behind closed doors until it was finished. How about all those bills that were passed by the House that Reid held up and refused to allow a vote on? You are out of your mind with left wing talking points.

Warren Kiefer 06-21-2017 12:57 PM

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Looks like the White House which is owned by the people of the United States doesn't want us to know what is going on? They have instructed Sean Spicer who is paid by the people of the United States to not speak to any recording devices. This administration is going back to the stones ages. Sad...

Is this what trump meant when he said he would have total transparency ??

MDLNB 06-21-2017 01:16 PM

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Is this what trump meant when he said he would have total transparency ??

No, I believe it was Obama that was the "transparency" advocate. I do not believe in total transparency, not even when Obama blundered through his tenure. And apparently Obama believed that classified information was supposed to be transparent also, if he did not mind Hillary releasing classified to uncleared people.

Trump investigations=Good
Hillary prosecution=Bad

Bowtorc 06-21-2017 02:58 PM

If I am not mistaken Obama promised all new bills would be visible to the public before being voted on.
Obama released known terrorist from Gitmo
Obama care was not read before being voted on and is slowly dying
I think Obama appointed losers like Clinton and Kerry
Worried more about his golf game than the people
He defended the idiots that were so mad that they burned their own neighborhood and looted Really Stupid!!!!!!!!
Was quick to comment on black people being injured or killed but was noticeably quite when other groups were treated the same

The stock market has been steadily climbing since Jan.
Millions have been renegotiated for new planes
A few companies have changed their minds about leaving the country
Some have come back
unemployment is improving
Stupid laws raising the cost energy are being reviewed
Cuba is being put back where it belongs in the world human rights
Fair trade agreements are being renegotiated
Iran is back under the microscope
Israel is being supported again
Military calls are being given back to the military leaders and not being subdued in a war that has been dragging on for years
Tax issues are being discussed concerning being more business friendly as well for the general public
The first Lady is proud of America
the president is not taking a salary
etc. etc.

I am not saying that he is saving the world but we should give him a chance. He gets as much leeway as the last administration we might be surprised what he can do!

Only my opinion, everyone is entitled to theirs but the bickering between the two parties is juvenile and stupid . We should be discussing issues not personalities or parties but it's easy to find things good or bad about anyone as noted above. I could find things just the reverse about both parties.

LET'S GIVE THEM A CHANCE.

MDLNB 06-21-2017 03:28 PM

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If I am not mistaken Obama promised all new bills would be visible to the public before being voted on.
Obama released known terrorist from Gitmo
Obama care was not read before being voted on and is slowly dying
I think Obama appointed losers like Clinton and Kerry
Worried more about his golf game than the people
He defended the idiots that were so mad that they burned their own neighborhood and looted Really Stupid!!!!!!!!
Was quick to comment on black people being injured or killed but was noticeably quite when other groups were treated the same

The stock market has been steadily climbing since Jan.
Millions have been renegotiated for new planes
A few companies have changed their minds about leaving the country
Some have come back
unemployment is improving
Stupid laws raising the cost energy are being reviewed
Cuba is being put back where it belongs in the world human rights
Fair trade agreements are being renegotiated
Iran is back under the microscope
Israel is being supported again
Military calls are being given back to the military leaders and not being subdued in a war that has been dragging on for years
Tax issues are being discussed concerning being more business friendly as well for the general public
The first Lady is proud of America
the president is not taking a salary
etc. etc.

I am not saying that he is saving the world but we should give him a chance. He gets as much leeway as the last administration we might be surprised what he can do!

Only my opinion, everyone is entitled to theirs but the bickering between the two parties is juvenile and stupid . We should be discussing issues not personalities or parties but it's easy to find things good or bad about anyone as noted above. I could find things just the reverse about both parties.

LET'S GIVE THEM A CHANCE.

Totally agree.

saratogaman 06-21-2017 04:31 PM

Nothing like a fact-free chunk of bigotry...

Rockyrd 06-21-2017 04:44 PM

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If I am not mistaken Obama promised all new bills would be visible to the public before being voted on.
Obama released known terrorist from Gitmo
Obama care was not read before being voted on and is slowly dying
I think Obama appointed losers like Clinton and Kerry
Worried more about his golf game than the people
He defended the idiots that were so mad that they burned their own neighborhood and looted Really Stupid!!!!!!!!
Was quick to comment on black people being injured or killed but was noticeably quite when other groups were treated the same

The stock market has been steadily climbing since Jan.
Millions have been renegotiated for new planes
A few companies have changed their minds about leaving the country
Some have come back
unemployment is improving
Stupid laws raising the cost energy are being reviewed
Cuba is being put back where it belongs in the world human rights
Fair trade agreements are being renegotiated
Iran is back under the microscope
Israel is being supported again
Military calls are being given back to the military leaders and not being subdued in a war that has been dragging on for years
Tax issues are being discussed concerning being more business friendly as well for the general public
The first Lady is proud of America
the president is not taking a salary
etc. etc.

I am not saying that he is saving the world but we should give him a chance. He gets as much leeway as the last administration we might be surprised what he can do!

Only my opinion, everyone is entitled to theirs but the bickering between the two parties is juvenile and stupid . We should be discussing issues not personalities or parties but it's easy to find things good or bad about anyone as noted above. I could find things just the reverse about both parties.

LET'S GIVE THEM A CHANCE.

I would have and did agree with you, UNTIL.......

I turn my back on a President who lies from the oval office....who makes nothing but disparaging remarks about ALL of his own countries departments, who disparages his own intelligence agencies, who accuses his predecessor of wire tapping, who fires THREE Justice employees for doing their job, which happened to be conducting investigations of HIM.

That is a partial list but to even imply that any of these problems are the fault of anyone but HIM is just plain ludicrioius.

Tired of comparing political lies to these kind of things that this person does AND GUESS WHAT....he does it publically so the entire world knows how the leader of our country actually feels about the country he is supposed to lead. Remarkable that people cannot see the difference or the severity of what is happening. Any President of the United States that does even half of what he has done to totally and completely embarrass this country on the world stage as he has done. I left the "give him a break crowd" once he began that stuff....that is the absolute total opposite of making america great........it is unamerican.
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By the way, on this forum I expect nothing any more but trolling but you mentioned parties working together. I posted about a group in congress.....THE PROBLEM SOLVERS CAUCUS....

This is from February when they first formed up....

"A congressional caucus working closely with No Labels, an advocacy group encouraging bipartisanship, is getting off the ground amid heightened tension between the two parties on Capitol Hill.

Reps. Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.) and Tom Reed (R-N.Y.) were elected to lead the Problem Solvers Caucus this week.

All of the group’s leaders represent competitive districts that may give them an incentive to try to work with the opposite party. "


Lawmakers set up bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus for new Congress | TheHill

A victory for these people in May...

"Today, Problem Solvers Caucus Co-Chairs Republican Tom Reed (NY-23) and Democrat Josh Gottheimer (NJ-5) announced a first win for the Caucus after it used its influence to get the FY17 funding bill passed. The bipartisan Caucus previously indicated that it would lead the effort to avoid a government shutdown by supporting such a funding bill if it contained no ideological riders.

The Caucus’ support of the bill was the result of the 40 Members of Congress, evenly split between Republicans and Democrats, working together."


Problem Solvers Caucus Claims First Congressional Victory | Congressman Tom Reed

And looking to the future.....on tax reform.....

"Gottheimer called what Trump released “a leaflet, not a plan.”

But they’re confident, they say, even with the shadow of Russia hanging over everything: Trump can still get the biggest tax reform package in history, and he can do it in conjunction with the largest infrastructure package, and he can get bipartisan support, and he can get it all done by early 2018.

Reed and Gottheimer aren’t crazy — they’re the co-chairs of the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus, and they insist their day has come. The voters who elected Trump demand it."


Problem Solvers insist it's not too late for tax reform - POLITICO

I know that on this forum, the tradition is to LABEL then ATTACK, ie., ALL conservatives or ALL democrats or some unkind way to describe people you love to hate.

This group is trying to make America great, the old fashioned way...work to compromise.

You really want to make America great ? Support this kind of effort....put the hate on the back burner, stop labeling everyone and understand YOU are not infallible

Rockyrd 06-21-2017 04:47 PM

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If I am not mistaken Obama promised all new bills would be visible to the public before being voted on.
Obama released known terrorist from Gitmo
Obama care was not read before being voted on and is slowly dying
I think Obama appointed losers like Clinton and Kerry
Worried more about his golf game than the people
He defended the idiots that were so mad that they burned their own neighborhood and looted Really Stupid!!!!!!!!
Was quick to comment on black people being injured or killed but was noticeably quite when other groups were treated the same

The stock market has been steadily climbing since Jan.
Millions have been renegotiated for new planes
A few companies have changed their minds about leaving the country
Some have come back
unemployment is improving
Stupid laws raising the cost energy are being reviewed
Cuba is being put back where it belongs in the world human rights
Fair trade agreements are being renegotiated
Iran is back under the microscope
Israel is being supported again
Military calls are being given back to the military leaders and not being subdued in a war that has been dragging on for years
Tax issues are being discussed concerning being more business friendly as well for the general public
The first Lady is proud of America
the president is not taking a salary
etc. etc.

I am not saying that he is saving the world but we should give him a chance. He gets as much leeway as the last administration we might be surprised what he can do!

Only my opinion, everyone is entitled to theirs but the bickering between the two parties is juvenile and stupid . We should be discussing issues not personalities or parties but it's easy to find things good or bad about anyone as noted above. I could find things just the reverse about both parties.

LET'S GIVE THEM A CHANCE.

By the way, your list is really subject to a A LOT of discussion.....sort of a dream list, all out of context both the good and bad and our issues are not quite that simple


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