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npwalters 06-21-2017 08:47 AM

30 somethings
 
I get a news feed about The Villages in my Email everyday. I've noticed that almost every day there is an article about a "30 something person living with their parents in such and such a village was arrested for something". This kind of surprises and saddens me. First that there are so many adults living with their parents in TV and second that some of them are criminals. I'm not writing this to suggest anything. Just an observation.

Taltarzac725 06-21-2017 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1414582)
I get a news feed about The Villages in my Email everyday. I've noticed that almost every day there is an article about a "30 something person living with their parents in such and such a village was arrested for something". This kind of surprises and saddens me. First that there are so many adults living with their parents in TV and second that some of them are criminals. I'm not writing this to suggest anything. Just an observation.

The population of the Villages is around 160,000 now so there are bound to be some people committing crimes within this vast number. These are of various ages. The Villages, Florida - Wikipedia

redwitch 06-21-2017 09:05 AM

Sadly, our problems don't go away just because we moved here. If our children have a drug or alcohol problem, our first instinct is to help them. Even sadder, that "help" comes in the form of enabling. So, until the parents truly see that supporting these offspring does not help them, the rest of us have to put up with these mistakes.

On the plus side, there are several adult children living here that you will never hear about. They are the ones who gave up their lives in another town to become caretakers. They are our unsung heroes. Fortunately, there are more of these Heroes here than you can possibly imagine.

npwalters 06-21-2017 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1414588)
The population of the Villages is around 160,000 now so there are bound to be some people committing crimes within this vast number. These are of various ages. The Villages, Florida - Wikipedia

One would assume that since TV is a 55 and over community that at least 80%(?) of the population is over 55. Yet about half of the crime reported is by persons under 55. Pretty sure that number is disproportionate to the population as a whole.

justjim 06-21-2017 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1414588)
The population of the Villages is around 160,000 now so there are bound to be some people committing crimes within this vast number. These are of various ages. The Villages, Florida - Wikipedia

For what it's worth, the population of The Villages itself is more like 115,000 during the winter months. This time of the year it's less than 100,000. The number quoted is including the surrounding communities outside of The Villages. The facts are crime is really quite low and the safest place we have lived. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

Chatbrat 06-21-2017 10:33 AM

On the unmentioned website--there was a big police raid on a house near Tierra Del Sol, lots of deputies & an armored vehicle

joldnol 06-21-2017 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1414596)
One would assume that since TV is a 55 and over community that at least 80%(?) of the population is over 55. Yet about half of the crime reported is by persons under 55. Pretty sure that number is disproportionate to the population as a whole.

90 percent of statistics are made up.

Allegiance 06-21-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1414591)
Sadly, our problems don't go away just because we moved here. If our children have a drug or alcohol problem, our first instinct is to help them. Even sadder, that "help" comes in the form of enabling. So, until the parents truly see that supporting these offspring does not help them, the rest of us have to put up with these mistakes.

On the plus side, there are several adult children living here that you will never hear about. They are the ones who gave up their lives in another town to become caretakers. They are our unsung heroes. Fortunately, there are more of these Heroes here than you can possibly imagine.

"So, until the parents truly see that supporting these offspring does not help them, the rest of us have to put up with these mistakes."

Some of them are HUGE MISTAKES. Hope their mommies are reading this.

njbchbum 06-21-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1414582)
I get a news feed about The Villages in my Email everyday. I've noticed that almost every day there is an article about a "30 something person living with their parents in such and such a village was arrested for something". This kind of surprises and saddens me. First that there are so many adults living with their parents in TV and second that some of them are criminals. I'm not writing this to suggest anything. Just an observation.

What age group is committing the crimes where you live now?

As has been said, many folks just don't stop loving their children and will always be there when they need help. Bless them as well as the parents who are in the care of their children.

njbchbum 06-21-2017 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1414637)
"So, until the parents truly see that supporting these offspring does not help them, the rest of us have to put up with these mistakes."

Some of them are HUGE MISTAKES. Hope their mommies are reading this.

Regardless of whether or not the parents ever "truly see that supporting these offspring does not help them", residents will live with them as they do every other neighbor who has/had offended the law or not.

Miles42 06-21-2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1414626)
On the unmentioned website--there was a big police raid on a house near Tierra Del Sol, lots of deputies & an armored vehicle

drugs being sold from the house also golf cart chop shop

Rapscallion St Croix 06-21-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1414596)
One would assume that since TV is a 55 and over community that at least 80%(?) of the population is over 55. Yet about half of the crime reported is by persons under 55. Pretty sure that number is disproportionate to the population as a whole.

Old people need to step up their game.

Allegiance 06-21-2017 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1414704)
Old people need to step up their game.

Keep an eye out on any house that has adult children living at home. If you see something, say something.

Gpsma 06-21-2017 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1414758)
Keep an eye out on any house that has adult children living at home. If you see something, say something.

Bit of an over generalization with a pinch of paranoia thrown in for flavor.

I know many adult children that live with their older parents. None are criminals or drug dealers. Some have fallen on hard times because of divorce or job loss, some have moved back to care for their parents, and others just never left the nest but they work and are not parasites to their parents.

Id be more concerned if it were a 20-something grandchild that all of a sudden showed up to live with their grandparents.

manaboutown 06-21-2017 02:22 PM

Unless the adult children or grandchildren are caregivers to their parents or dependent on them due to physical and/or mental challenges most assuredly they are what used to be referred to as "undesirables" of one type or another. They have serious substance abuse issues, criminal histories or other problems which are unlikely, unfortunately, to go away. Needless to say they are incapable of functioning out in society as independent adults. IMHO they do not belong in a 55 and over community which is why some such communities are very strict about not allowing anyone under 55 other than a spouse or caregiver to live there.

Bogie Shooter 06-21-2017 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1414596)
One would assume that since TV is a 55 and over community that at least 80%(?) of the population is over 55. Yet about half of the crime reported is by persons under 55. Pretty sure that number is disproportionate to the population as a whole.

And you would be wrong.

dbussone 06-21-2017 02:44 PM

I can see a new reality show on the Velocity channel. Villages Chop Shop.


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Bonny 06-21-2017 03:29 PM

I know quite a few people that their kids live with them and mom & dad love it. The kids are not married & work in the area.

Taltarzac725 06-21-2017 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1414792)
I know quite a few people that their kids live with them and mom & dad love it. The kids are not married & work in the area.

I could probably move to DC, LA, or NYC and do well with stuff but am taking care of the parents right now. I have been here since 2005 though but have worked on something that got the attention of Gary Corsair then a reporter for The Villages Daily Sun. This was about my advocacy to get the Florida Victim Services Directory connected to the Marion, Lake and Sumter County Library Systems' web-sites. Mr. Corsair's article came out on Memorial Day 2007 but I have worked on other stuff in many states and even some other countries. It is a very creative effort so it would look strange to some people unfamiliar with the issues involved and more importantly with some of the people.

npwalters 06-21-2017 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1414767)
And you would be wrong.

Have been before. Which part is -in your opinion - wrong?

Buffalo Jim 06-21-2017 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1414857)
Have been before. Which part is -in your opinion - wrong?

Just guessing but perhaps it is the notion that the " children " in question are actually " adults " .

Allegiance 06-21-2017 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1414802)
I could probably move to DC, LA, or NYC and do well with stuff but am taking care of the parents right now. I have been here since 2005 though but have worked on something that got the attention of Gary Corsair then a reporter for The Villages Daily Sun. This was about my advocacy to get the Florida Victim Services Directory connected to the Marion, Lake and Sumter County Library Systems' web-sites. Mr. Corsair's article came out on Memorial Day 2007 but I have worked on other stuff in many states and even some other countries. It is a very creative effort so it would look strange to some people unfamiliar with the issues involved and more importantly with some of the people.

A good man... Mr. Corsair

chuckinca 06-21-2017 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1414802)
I could probably move to DC, LA, or NYC and do well with stuff but am taking care of the parents right now. I have been here since 2005 though but have worked on something that got the attention of Gary Corsair then a reporter for The Villages Daily Sun. This was about my advocacy to get the Florida Victim Services Directory connected to the Marion, Lake and Sumter County Library Systems' web-sites. Mr. Corsair's article came out on Memorial Day 2007 but I have worked on other stuff in many states and even some other countries. It is a very creative effort so it would look strange to some people unfamiliar with the issues involved and more importantly with some of the people.

Keep up the good work Tal !

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dillywho 06-21-2017 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1414591)
Sadly, our problems don't go away just because we moved here. If our children have a drug or alcohol problem, our first instinct is to help them. Even sadder, that "help" comes in the form of enabling. So, until the parents truly see that supporting these offspring does not help them, the rest of us have to put up with these mistakes.

On the plus side, there are several adult children living here that you will never hear about. They are the ones who gave up their lives in another town to become caretakers. They are our unsung heroes. Fortunately, there are more of these Heroes here than you can possibly imagine.

You hit it right on, as usual. Just like anything else, the good go totally unnoticed. Thank you for recognizing them. They do get far little recognition, even though they don't do it for recognition, but out of love. :BigApplause:

dillywho 06-21-2017 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1414692)
Book 'em, Danno.

I don't like either one; golf cart chop shops or drug dealing.

AND how short of time they will be incarcerated before they bail out. Florida has revolving door jails and judges who need to be kicked in the fanny.

Let's see if this will copy from the V-I-l-l-a-g-e-s N-e-w-s;


"Sumter County sheriff’s deputies executed a search warrant this morning at a troubled property in The Villages.
The house at 1902 Antonia Place previously has made headlines.
Frustrated, overwhelmed neighbors showed up earlier this month at a Community Development District 1 supervisors’ meeting to complain about the unkempt property located near Tierra Del Sol Recreation Center. They also hinted at what they suspected was illicit activity at the home.
Shortly after 6 a.m. today, the might of the sheriff’s office descended on the problematic home. The SWAT team executed a search warrant obtained after a confidential informant helped orchestrate three drug buys on three different occasions at the home"

The rest is interesting as well. Seems an elderly man lives there with a 41 year old niece who has "friends" staying there.

Grace, I got out of the article that he no longer resides in the home but does still own it. He let her live there (don't know if she was supposed to take care of him for a while or why he left) and that's when she moved her "friends" in with her.

Taltarzac725 06-22-2017 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 1414930)
You hit it right on, as usual. Just like anything else, the good go totally unnoticed. Thank you for recognizing them. They do get far little recognition, even though they don't do it for recognition, but out of love. :BigApplause:

I have met or heard of many 30-60 year olds who take care of their parents here in the Villages. Two were living with a leader of a Catholic church of volunteers when their house got struck by lightning and then burned down. Fortunately they were not in it nor was anyone else. A few doors south of them there had been a meth lab a few years prior to that. This was kids of the owner who got arrested. I do remember some neighbors speculating that another meth lab was involved. Just a lightning strike however.

Sometimes fate is kind some times it is fickle. And some of us just have to deal the best we can with the hand dealt us by life.

Allegiance 06-22-2017 09:09 AM

There is no doubt the crimes committed by adult children is disproportionate to their numbers.

Neighbors should be aware of their presence.

This is especially true of the "children" that never left home.

Taltarzac725 06-22-2017 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 1414876)
Keep up the good work Tal !

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manaboutown 06-22-2017 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1415044)
There is no doubt the crimes committed by adult children is disproportionate to their numbers.

Neighbors should be aware of their presence.

This is especially true of the "children" that never left home.

:beer3:

Some of them are "yo-yo" kids, not really children anymore, at least by their age and appearance. They remain perpetually dependent on society and/or their parents. Although a minuscule number of them are among those getting divorced, experiencing serious health issues or temporary financial difficulties due job loss or sickness, most are back from living on the street, rehab, half-way houses or from prison.

Allegiance 06-22-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1415085)
:beer3:

Some of them are "yo-yo" kids, not really children anymore, at least by their age and appearance. They remain perpetually dependent on society and/or their parents. Although a minuscule number of them are among those getting divorced, experiencing serious health issues or temporary financial difficulties due job loss or sickness, most are back from living on the street, rehab, half-way houses or from prison.

Often these yo-yo kids that lack life experience are troublemakers with no social skills. They are the squeaky wheel that often give the villages a bad reputation, even if the actions are not criminal in nature.

manaboutown 06-22-2017 12:10 PM

Check out on the unnameable news site the mug shots and short bios of the 5 arrestees who were at a TV house law enforcement recently raided. A rough bunch of Villagers indeed! The only one over 55 was a 63 year old who last year was a squatter in an unoccupied TV house.

Taltarzac725 06-22-2017 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1415128)
Check out on the unnameable news site the mug shots and short bios of the 5 arrestees who were at a TV house law enforcement recently raided. A rough bunch of Villagers indeed! The only one over 55 was a 63 year old who last year was a squatter in an unoccupied TV house.

I will check out that article.

ColdNoMore 06-22-2017 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1415094)
Often these yo-yo kids that lack life experience are troublemakers with no social skills. They are the squeaky wheel that often give the villages a bad reputation, even if the actions are not criminal in nature.

Please explain how these people of which you speak, are "troublemakers"...if they're not doing anything illegal or criminal?

Barefoot 07-27-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1415094)
Often these yo-yo kids that lack life experience are troublemakers with no social skills. They are the squeaky wheel that often give the villages a bad reputation, even if the actions are not criminal in nature.

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1415232)
Please explain how these people of which you speak, are "troublemakers"...if they're not doing anything illegal or criminal?

How can they be giving The Villages a bad reputation, if they're not doing anything illegal or criminal in nature. :confused:

Jake_ 07-29-2017 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1414760)
Bit of an over generalization with a pinch of paranoia thrown in for flavor.

I know many adult children that live with their older parents. None are criminals or drug dealers. Some have fallen on hard times because of divorce or job loss, some have moved back to care for their parents, and others just never left the nest but they work and are not parasites to their parents.

Id be more concerned if it were a 20-something grandchild that all of a sudden showed up to live with their grandparents.

Im 24 and live in the villages....... I ride a motorcycle, concealed carry a pistol and have tattoos. But I also go to college full time and work, you dont see me on the news getting arrested, its all about the individual and not the age.

I see plenty of people over the age of 55 getting arrested........ like the lated that was arrested just standing in the middle of the road in nothing but black leather boots.

Taltarzac725 07-29-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake_ (Post 1429816)
Im 24 and live in the villages....... I ride a motorcycle, concealed carry a pistol and have tattoos. But I also go to college full time and work, you dont see me on the news getting arrested, its all about the individual and not the age.

I see plenty of people over the age of 55 getting arrested........ like the lated that was arrested just standing in the middle of the road in nothing but black leather boots.

Do not let some of these posters get you down. They are in no way indicative of what most Villagers are like.

Bonny 07-29-2017 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake_ (Post 1429816)
Im 24 and live in the villages....... I ride a motorcycle, concealed carry a pistol and have tattoos. But I also go to college full time and work, you dont see me on the news getting arrested, its all about the individual and not the age.

I see plenty of people over the age of 55 getting arrested........ like the lated that was arrested just standing in the middle of the road in nothing but black leather boots.

I know a lot of younger people in the Villages and we are friends with many of them. Several are here helping their parents.
I love the younger crowd and think it is awful when people on here judge people & blame the younger ones for any trouble.
We have lots of the older folks drinking & driving, getting DUI's, have pulled guns on people, fought with people, threw trash out of their car/cart, stole golf clubs from the country clubs, stole their neighbors property, stole golf carts, vandalized property and on and on.
Pay no attention to the ones that place blame. Many of us here have no problems at all with the younger ones living here. :)
P.S. Many of the older people here ride a motorcycle, carry a concealed weapon and have tattoos.

Barefoot 07-29-2017 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake_ (Post 1429816)
Im 24 and live in the villages.

Welcome to the TOTV Forum. We need posts from a wide range of ages! :welcome:

Jake_ 07-29-2017 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1429864)
Do not let some of these posters get you down. They are in no way indicative of what most Villagers are like.

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1429875)
I know a lot of younger people in the Villages and we are friends with many of them. Several are here helping their parents.
I love the younger crowd and think it is awful when people on here judge people & blame the younger ones for any trouble.
We have lots of the older folks drinking & driving, getting DUI's, have pulled guns on people, fought with people, threw trash out of their car/cart, stole golf clubs from the country clubs, stole their neighbors property, stole golf carts, vandalized property and on and on.
Pay no attention to the ones that place blame. Many of us here have no problems at all with the younger ones living here. :)
P.S. Many of the older people here ride a motorcycle, carry a concealed weapon and have tattoos.

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1429880)
Welcome to the TOTV Forum. We need posts from a wide range of ages! :welcome:


Thank you all for the warm welcome. I have had many many many positive interactions since I moved here, however like anywhere you have small closed minded people. =]

ColdNoMore 07-29-2017 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake_ (Post 1429884)
Thank you all for the warm welcome. I have had many many many positive interactions since I moved here, however like anywhere you have small closed minded people. =]

Well stated.

There are also a few that have an unhealthy obsession with those that they don't think 'belong here,' but the good news is...they are easy to identify. :D


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