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Sandtrap328 06-24-2017 07:31 AM

Replacing Obamacare
 
Republicans had 7 years to try and write a replacement bill for Obamacare. They didn't do it. Now, the GOP House voted and passed their version. The Senate said No. The Senate wrote theirs. Several Republican senators say No. It will not pass voting. The whole ing will have to be re-done as a compromise but that will take many, many months.

What happened to "On Day One, I will repeal and replace Obamacare! I have a so much better plan!"

Chi-Town 06-24-2017 07:40 AM

So many plans Healthcare, the Wall, ISIS, Taxes. Always lax on details. Remember?




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AJ32162 06-24-2017 08:03 AM

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Republicans had 7 years to try and write a replacement bill for Obamacare. They didn't do it. Now, the GOP House voted and passed their version. The Senate said No. The Senate wrote theirs. Several Republican senators say No. It will not pass voting. The whole ing will have to be re-done as a compromise but that will take many, many months.

What happened to "On Day One, I will repeal and replace Obamacare! I have a so much better plan!"[/QUOTE]

And, just what have the Democrats proposed to fix the failings of Obamacare...NOTHING!

MDLNB 06-24-2017 12:00 PM

The Democrats have had seven years to FIX Obamacare so that it would not be a failure today. Their answer is to blame it on the Republicans. Push them enough and they will attempt to blame Bush. Americans know that Democrats have been planning to make us a European style socialist country and that their plan all along was to have Obiecare fail. And now they think they can blame the Republicans so they can regain political power. And that is why they are losers. They thought that ALL Americans were stupid lowlifes without a "proper" education.

Republicans lost their concentration on the goal. The Goal is to REPEAL Obiecare, period. Repeal it and then argue later as to how to replace it. You can't replace it with reconciliation.

wjboyer1 06-24-2017 12:12 PM

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The Democrats have had seven years to FIX Obamacare so that it would not be a failure today. Their answer is to blame it on the Republicans. Push them enough and they will attempt to blame Bush. Americans know that Democrats have been planning to make us a European style socialist country and that their plan all along was to have Obiecare fail. And now they think they can blame the Republicans so they can regain political power. And that is why they are losers. They thought that ALL Americans were stupid lowlifes without a "proper" education.

Republicans lost their concentration on the goal. The Goal is to REPEAL Obiecare, period. Repeal it and then argue later as to how to replace it. You can't replace it with reconciliation.

Although passed in 2010, the Affordable Healthcare Act (some people call it ObamaCare) had a gradual startup. It wasn't until 2013 and 2014 that most of the provisions took place, your "seven years to FIX Obamacare" is an unjustifiable rant of your version of "alternative facts" (or lies as most intelligent people call them)
Read (that is if you are intelligent enough) the following link of the ACTUAL Obamacare benefits for ALL Americans. Then read the LA Times article on what the Trumpcare bill will do. Then, you may be equipped with ACTUAL information to make an argument. What a dumbass.
Health Care Reform Timeline
A side-by-side comparison of Obamacare and the GOP’s replacement plans - Los Angeles Times

MDLNB 06-24-2017 01:02 PM

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Although passed in 2010, the Affordable Healthcare Act (some people call it ObamaCare) had a gradual startup. It wasn't until 2013 and 2014 that most of the provisions took place, your "seven years to FIX Obamacare" is an unjustifiable rant of your version of "alternative facts" (or lies as most intelligent people call them)
Read (that is if you are intelligent enough) the following link of the ACTUAL Obamacare benefits for ALL Americans. Then read the LA Times article on what the Trumpcare bill will do. Then, you may be equipped with ACTUAL information to make an argument. What a dumbass.
Health Care Reform Timeline
A side-by-side comparison of Obamacare and the GOP’s replacement plans - Los Angeles Times

Once again, proof that the Democrat party is the party of EXCUSES.

CNN’s Jake Tapper Highlights Democrat Lies To Sell Obamacare - YouTube

Democrat excuses for Obiecare increases:
Excuse #1 – Few Americans are affected by ObamaCare premium hikes.

Excuse #2 – ObamaCare premium hikes don’t matter because we can subsidize them.
Excuse #3 –Premiums would be even higher if ObamaCare hadn’t passed.

Excuse #4 – Premiums are high because Republicans oppose ObamaCare.

Excuse #5 –Premiums are high because Republicans won’t do what Democrats tell them to do.

And why didn't Hillary get elected?

wjboyer1 06-24-2017 01:22 PM

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once again, proof that the democrat party is the party of excuses.

cnn’s jake tapper highlights democrat lies to sell obamacare - youtube

democrat excuses for obiecare increases:
excuse #1 – few americans are affected by obamacare premium hikes.

excuse #2 – obamacare premium hikes don’t matter because we can subsidize them.
excuse #3 –premiums would be even higher if obamacare hadn’t passed.

excuse #4 – premiums are high because republicans oppose obamacare.

excuse #5 –premiums are high because republicans won’t do what democrats tell them to do.

and why didn't hillary get elected?

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Sandtrap328 06-24-2017 01:35 PM

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That is exactly what all these posts are saying.

It would be so justifying to have an alternative to ACA passed and signed into law - and see the fools who voted for Trumpanzee lose all the coverage they currently have under ACA. (And it just might happen)

MDLNB 06-24-2017 02:07 PM

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That is exactly what all these posts are saying.

It would be so justifying to have an alternative to ACA passed and signed into law - and see the fools who voted for Trumpanzee lose all the coverage they currently have under ACA. (And it just might happen)

Only losers that are too lazy to work or did not plan ahead have ObieCare and could lose it. That means those on the left. And "HELLO" in there, Obiecare is already self-destructing and you have or will lose your coverage anyway. Grab the life line while you can, because no one is going to jump in and save you. Not that I care about you anyway. Just giving you some free advice. And we know how the left LOVES FREE.

wjboyer1 06-24-2017 02:28 PM

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Only losers that are too lazy to work or did not plan ahead have ObieCare and could lose it. That means those on the left. And "HELLO" in there, Obiecare is already self-destructing and you have or will lose your coverage anyway. Grab the life line while you can, because no one is going to jump in and save you. Not that I care about you anyway. Just giving you some free advice. And we know how the left LOVES FREE.

What an uneducated troll.....

MDLNB 06-24-2017 02:47 PM

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What an uneducated troll.....

And yet you being so much more educated than myself, cannot argue civilly so you cry when someone flings it back at you. Same thing that Trump did and won. He used dirty left wing politics to beat you at your own game and you can't accept defeat. You cry instead of shrugging it off and moving on with your life, AND supporting your President. Leftards are so predictable and dependent.

wjboyer1 06-24-2017 03:07 PM

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And yet you being so much more educated than myself, cannot argue civilly so you cry when someone flings it back at you. Same thing that Trump did and won. He used dirty left wing politics to beat you at your own game and you can't accept defeat. You cry instead of shrugging it off and moving on with your life, AND supporting your President. Leftards are so predictable and dependent.

You have nothing intelligent to argue....just hollow talking points which trolls use as their facade for actually knowing something

Joe De Vito 06-24-2017 03:16 PM

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And yet you being so much more educated than myself, cannot argue civilly so you cry when someone flings it back at you. Same thing that Trump did and won. He used dirty left wing politics to beat you at your own game and you can't accept defeat. You cry instead of shrugging it off and moving on with your life, AND supporting your President. Leftards are so predictable and dependent.

You haven't said civil thing on this board. The reason that they aren't answering your stupid comments is never argue with a fool, because people might be able to tell the difference. You are that fool.

Health insurance premiums have increased every year in the past. The first 4-5 years under the ACA was the lowest in history. What to take last year and try to sell that increases like this have been the norm, since the ACA started.

Why in the world would anyone support a pathological liar even if he is the president? In what world, can a liar be trusted? I guess that world would be Russia, China, Iraq, or North Korea, and now the US. OK, Republicans stand up and take a bow.

Obama stares Putin in the face, and tells him where to go. Trump invites high ranking Russians into the White House, and has a laugh fest. Republicans stand up and take a bow.

We should all appreciate what the Republicans have given us. That is a thin skinned, egomaniac liar. Let's here for Trump, "HIM, HIM, BLEEP HIM".

wjboyer1 06-24-2017 03:23 PM

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only losers that are too lazy to work or did not plan ahead have obiecare and could lose it. That means those on the left. And "hello" in there, obiecare is already self-destructing and you have or will lose your coverage anyway. Grab the life line while you can, because no one is going to jump in and save you. Not that i care about you anyway. Just giving you some free advice. And we know how the left loves free.

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Rockyrd 06-24-2017 03:27 PM

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You haven't said civil thing on this board. The reason that they aren't answering your stupid comments is never argue with a fool, because people might be able to tell the difference. You are that fool.

Health insurance premiums have increased every year in the past. The first 4-5 years under the ACA was the lowest in history. What to take last year and try to sell that increases like this have been the norm, since the ACA started.

Why in the world would anyone support a pathological liar even if he is the president? In what world, can a liar be trusted? I guess that world would be Russia, China, Iraq, or North Korea, and now the US. OK, Republicans stand up and take a bow.

Obama stares Putin in the face, and tells him where to go. Trump invites high ranking Russians into the White House, and has a laugh fest. Republicans stand up and take a bow.

We should all appreciate what the Republicans have given us. That is a thin skinned, egomaniac liar. Let's here for Trump, "HIM, HIM, BLEEP HIM".

Remember that "laugh fest" with the Russians was shared ONLY on Russian media, and was when our leader shared some secrets with them and one of those laughs he shared with the Russians was at the expense of the fired FBI director who was toiling away for his country for many years (Trump NEVER has)

Wish we could have seen the entire show but our Americans were shut out by the Presidents PERSONAL request that it be only Russian.

Make America great my a$$

MDLNB 06-24-2017 04:19 PM

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You haven't said civil thing on this board. The reason that they aren't answering your stupid comments is never argue with a fool, because people might be able to tell the difference. You are that fool.

Health insurance premiums have increased every year in the past. The first 4-5 years under the ACA was the lowest in history. What to take last year and try to sell that increases like this have been the norm, since the ACA started.

Why in the world would anyone support a pathological liar even if he is the president? In what world, can a liar be trusted? I guess that world would be Russia, China, Iraq, or North Korea, and now the US. OK, Republicans stand up and take a bow.

Obama stares Putin in the face, and tells him where to go. Trump invites high ranking Russians into the White House, and has a laugh fest. Republicans stand up and take a bow.

We should all appreciate what the Republicans have given us. That is a thin skinned, egomaniac liar. Let's here for Trump, "HIM, HIM, BLEEP HIM".

And you reply with "Putin." You have the audacity to suggest that I do not have anything relevant to say, and you want to change the subject. WOW! The left never ceases to entertain.

Do not think that anyone believes you when you suggest that Insurance has not gone up in giant steps since Obiecare. You are not living in the real world, or have no friends with private insurance.

wjboyer1 06-24-2017 04:30 PM

Health plans had big premium hikes before Obamacare
 
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And you reply with "Putin." You have the audacity to suggest that I do not have anything relevant to say, and you want to change the subject. WOW! The left never ceases to entertain.

Do not think that anyone believes you when you suggest that Insurance has not gone up in giant steps since Obiecare. You are not living in the real world, or have no friends with private insurance.

http://www.cnbc.com/2014/06/04/healt...obamacare.html

You should also consider, that healthcare COSTS (charges by the providers, i.e.: doctors, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies) have gone up an average of 24% per year. Insurance NEVER goes down or stays the same when COSTS go up.

Average health insurance premiums fell after Obamacare took effect, study says
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/27/avera...tudy-says.html

wjboyer1 06-24-2017 11:25 PM

This child is too lazy to work......
 
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Only losers that are too lazy to work or did not plan ahead have ObieCare and could lose it. That means those on the left. And "HELLO" in there, Obiecare is already self-destructing and you have or will lose your coverage anyway. Grab the life line while you can, because no one is going to jump in and save you. Not that I care about you anyway. Just giving you some free advice. And we know how the left LOVES FREE.

A mother dares Republicans to look her son in the eyes and tell him he’s not worth it
A mother dares Republicans to look her son in the eyes and tell him he's not worth it anymore (Details)

Allegiance 06-25-2017 03:58 AM

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A mother dares Republicans to look her son in the eyes and tell him he’s not worth it
A mother dares Republicans to look her son in the eyes and tell him he's not worth it anymore (Details)

Glad you are back in your drunken 1am time slot.

Where you belong.

Paper1 06-25-2017 05:43 AM

This thread is reflective of the dialog going on across country about healthcare. Democrats are not offering any alternatives and costs associated with them. To the credit of republicans they are addressing the cost of current system to the federal government acknowledging it cannot continue but are doing it but limiting care by income. Neither party is addressing the real problem, the cost of healthcare delivery. It is not insurance cost, although it does play a part. The lobbying and money politicians receive for not taking on the for profit healthcare industry prevents an honest discussion.

wjboyer1 06-25-2017 07:52 AM

If We Lose Our Health Care ...
 
If We Lose Our Health Care ... - The New York Times

wjboyer1 06-25-2017 12:56 PM

Senate bill sacrifices health care for tax cuts
 
Editorial: Senate bill sacrifices health care for tax cuts | Tampa Bay Times

MDLNB 06-25-2017 01:02 PM

More liberal commentary hit pieces based on liberal talking points, not fact.

MDLNB 06-25-2017 01:08 PM

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You haven't said civil thing on this board. The reason that they aren't answering your stupid comments is never argue with a fool, because people might be able to tell the difference. You are that fool.

Health insurance premiums have increased every year in the past. The first 4-5 years under the ACA was the lowest in history. What to take last year and try to sell that increases like this have been the norm, since the ACA started.

Why in the world would anyone support a pathological liar even if he is the president? In what world, can a liar be trusted? I guess that world would be Russia, China, Iraq, or North Korea, and now the US. OK, Republicans stand up and take a bow.

Obama stares Putin in the face, and tells him where to go. Trump invites high ranking Russians into the White House, and has a laugh fest. Republicans stand up and take a bow.

We should all appreciate what the Republicans have given us. That is a thin skinned, egomaniac liar. Let's here for Trump, "HIM, HIM, BLEEP HIM".

Yes, Obama stared at Putin's crotch and told him that he could be more flexible after the election, I think you meant to say.
Obviously you have no clue about health insurance costs since obiecare and still live in denial that it isn't really failing or that it will be defunct by the end of the summer. But, live in your fantasy that Obama is going to save you. As if he ever gave a rat's @ss about anyone but himself.

You couple libtards continue on your one track mind of dumping on your president, and contribute nothing to the discussion. Keep it up. That's why you are a loser and we will continue to win. Don't worry though, because there is always a conservative around to save you.

Don Baldwin 06-25-2017 07:52 PM

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Yes, Obama stared at Putin's crotch and told him that he could be more flexible after the election, I think you meant to say.
Obviously you have no clue about health insurance costs since obiecare and still live in denial that it isn't really failing or that it will be defunct by the end of the summer. But, live in your fantasy that Obama is going to save you. As if he ever gave a rat's @ss about anyone but himself.

You couple libtards continue on your one track mind of dumping on your president, and contribute nothing to the discussion. Keep it up. That's why you are a loser and we will continue to win. Don't worry though, because there is always a conservative around to save you.

"We" won't be winning for long...they are breeding us out...within 30 years the minorities will wield the political power. White people are disappearing.


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