voter fraud commission
 

Are you ready to give personal information to this commission?

Not while this is controlled by Donald John Trump and his minions.

All they need to do is ask the NSA for it.


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With a subpoena or a court suit: each requires a detailed legal reason for needing such information....

so you believe providing documentation to support the fact that you are who you say you are and that you are a legal United State citizen who has the right and privilege to vote is an invasion of your privacy? if so then don't vote.

Frankly, I am offended and greatly concerned that the integrity of our voting system, a system so critical to our preservation of freedoms is being compromised by unscrupulous people whose only agenda is to gain more power for them and continue to strip us of our basic freedoms.

You sir, are marching yourself down the road to perdition and I for one do not want to go there

Personal Best Regards:

SIMILAR ARGUMENT MADE SO GUN OWNERS CAN REMAIN ANONYMOUS......

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An election judge in Madison County, Illinois, was charged with two felony counts of election fraud for allegedly submitting an absentee ballot on behalf of her deceased husband. Audrey Cook, 88, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch she received the ballots in the mail shortly after her longtime spouse passed away, in September. She said he’d made it clear he intended to vote for Trump.

Ex-head of Colorado Republicans charged with voter fraud | Reuters
AP: Trump’s voter fraud expert registered in 3 states

Trump's Bogus Voter Fraud Claims - FactCheck.org

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the primary reason the left gets away with specious arguments such that voter fraud does not exist or that providing voter ID before voting gains credence is because the main street media promotes thes spacious arguments ad nauseam and withholds the truths.

Personal Best Regards:

I am just scared this information would wind up in the mailing list for Trump products or those of his business friends.

You are certainly correct. Unfortunately that hasn't worked out so well. Just ask Susan Rice.


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Interesting how there was no "Fake News" until Trump started saying it......and he says it is "Fake News" if he doesn't like it, it shows that the facts contradict him, or that the "media" does not agree with him.....

Rubicon,
You are on your mighty high horse once again.

IF the Democrats wanted the information, YOU would be ranting and raving about invasion of privacy.

Get off your high horse - and bite me!

Frankly, what I find offensive is that YOU and the President do not seem troubled that a foreign country.....and a clear and constant enemy or foe of our country.....attempted to sway our last election and continues to operate.

THAT does not seem to bother any of you. You are more interested in supporting a total sham of investigation and one that was only allowed because Trump is still in election mode and shot off his big mouth about fraud with ZERO substantiation.

No, if you are concerned, be concerned by the foreign interference, but it does not seem that you give a damn about that at all. Do not think I ever heard you say it even was even a slight concern to you.

PLEASE...AGAIN you accuse people.

WHAT SPECIFIC INFORMATION IS BEING WITHHELD....WHAT TRUTHS ARE YOU TALKNG ABOUT ?

You can never back up any accusations. You simply bark out what Trump tells you and NEVER EVER are able to back anything up.

Seems ACCUSING with never a reason given or logic provided is simply a new thing with your alt right haters.

Putin has to still be laughing his azz off...at succeeding in helping get this buffoon elected.

It is no secret that Putin hates and fears Hillary, but I'll bet even he didn't realize how easy Chump could be manipulated, due to his being clueless how the world works outside of real estate deals...and his megalomania and super-inflated ego. :oops:

I just wish I had a $1 for every time Putin says privately in Russian... 'Trump's my bitch.' :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

Immigrant Who Voted Illegally on Road to Becoming a U.S. Citizen | Fox News
Obama encouraging illegal immigrants to vote? | On Air Videos | Fox Business

Mexican woman in Texas sentenced to 8 years in prison for voter fraud | Fox News

Hillary Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, bolsters Trump argument, study finds - Washington Times

Nearly 2 million non-citizen Hispanics illegally registered to vote - Washington Times


Overreacting to Russia revealing hard true facts about scumbag Democrats as election interference yet downplaying actual election fraud by people at the ballot booths proves what scumbags the liberals actually are.

:1rotfl:

NO ONE has said that there aren't occasions...where voter fraud has occurred.

In fact, it seems that these extremely rare cases are actually pretty equally divided...between R's and D's.

It's exactly this type of pathetic reaching, by touting a specific case and trying to apply it across the board or on a significant scale...is when your ignorance is truly exposed. :ho:

Oh yeah, here's a hint for you...the Washington Times is probably the newspaper with the most fake news (ALL from a Republican perspective)... in the entire United States (just a little below Faux News). :oops:

Eye-opening however, to know that you're complete apathy regarding Russia working to get Trump elected...means that you are a secret commie and Russian thug supporter. :ohdear:

Sooooo...at least thanks for that. :thumbup:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Like the fake news of being 78 years old. Poopy pants, let's see how many illegals will not note next election... lol

Heck no just ask the Russians for it!

:1rotfl: :1rotfl: :1rotfl: OH SNAP! :1rotfl: :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

Fox News, and Washington Times! Seriously. Now, there are two real bastions of open minded reporting. They would never take the Republicans over the Democrats. Hell no. They are "fair and balanced".

Trump lost the popular vote. Only a fool and Trump would think otherwise. This commission to look into voter fraud is a complete joke. Trump's ego is hurt. When you attack Trump, he hits back ten times harder. He will never let the truth stand in the way of his childish rants. The prize for stupidity goes to anyone that believes this clown.

Don't expect an answer from Personal Best Regards. If you haven't noticed, he doesn't respond to anyone that doesn't agree with everything he posts. He is the poster boy for a closed minded individual.

That, his plagiarism and the fact that he has NEVER provided (or doesn't know how to) a link to support his constant lies, is exactly why RubiTHECon has earned the moniker of being a...'pseudo-intellectual.' :ohdear:

It's illegal to spit in Daytona Beach Florida. No tickets issued, so I assume no one spits there.

Without a real investigation we don't know. Kinda like the hillary investigations which were not investigations. Hillary not arrested so she did no wrong. Lol


Liberals lack logic. I will be printing and distributing that bumper sticker.

Really poopy pants. Lol

Says the 78 year old...

Scumbag? :1rotfl:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/voter-fr...r-trump-twice/

Or just another Trump Cultist moron? :D

Liberals lack logic. Logic is the only thing Republicans require like the logic behind seven Benghazi hearings all with the same conclusion. we all know what the definition of insanity is. I guess you can be logical and totally insane at the same time.

When Trump speaks, the totally insane listen, and agree with his every word. He is not lying. He is just giving a different version of the truth.

Al, you're 78? Explains a lot. '39 was a rough year.

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There is a new Sheriff in town. It will grow on you.

Law and order also means zero tolerance for voter fraud. ZERO

So, the thread has again burrowed into the depths of personal attacks and libtards vs trumptards........

One of the pillars of the Republican platform is STATES RIGHTS, and, constitutionally, elections are a right of each state. Therefore, the Federal government has NO standing when asking for, or demanding, ANY voter information from the indivdual states.

So, if you are Republican, you should be questioning why a Republican president, which is supported by a Republican Congress, is asking something that is totally AGAINST the viewpoints of Republicans.

It is NOT a liberal vs conservative issue.....it is a legal and constitutional issue. So, put away your personal attacks on the mental capabilities of either political isle and start using the way of the Constitution.......as true Americans should.

Perhaps it was missed on you but the MSM has been treating its readership under an agenda called the "mushroom theory". All Trump did was call the out.

You know this to be true but you hate Trump more than you do the dishonest media

Personal Best Regards:

Well for starters the same reason why Trump is sending federal assistance to Chicago because they do not know how to maintain law and order

I am a big supporter of the 10th Amendment. So I am pleased to see your concern here. Will you support medicaid block grants to states so that we can move forward with the repeal and replacement of OBAMACARE?

Will you push back against the federal governments expansion efforts?

The founders created the federal government to serve the states in three general areas Defense, Treasury, Commerce..and here we are with a federal budget that is primarily allotted to entitlements. Do we really need the Departments of Education, Energy, Housing? Should the Departments of Agriculture, Environment be monoliths? You get my point and I hope you get behind the 10th Amendment.

Personal Best Regards:

Just want to support your thinking and your post.

There are folks on here, like the poster you reply to, who will support anything and everything that Trump says.

Someday, we will wake up and find with Trump, our debt is greater, our security is less, and it is all about federal control.

Steve Bannon is running the country, and his wish is to rip it apart first, and begin with the media, for example.

The poster to whom you reply is most assuredly going to agree with Trump on any conspiracy theory that Bannon feeds him.

Just know I support what you say about this sham of a commission. A commission that is supported only because those Trump followers will do and say what he wants, no matter the total and complete lack of facts.

Still waiting for these folks to supply the lies from the media. Still waiting for them to ever condemn Russian attempts to sway our election. They are tuned in to only defending Trump, no matter the hypocrisy, as in this commission, involved.

I am willing to give Trump a chance, but he is flying in the face of conservatism thought AND patriotism.

What would I care? Seems like the IRS already has the party affiliation information (remember they were targeting Republicans when Obama was in office), my SS#, DOB...it is the government after all.

A deflection away from the theme of this thread......but it is interesting that the largest departments of the Federal Government were started by Republican administrations and Congress, the most regulations were enacted by Republican administrations, the highest increases in national debt were overseen by Republican administrations, the highest unemployment numbers were during Republican administrations.......

Evidently, there is a very real disconnect between Republican rhetoric and reality; and now, that disconnect is becoming very apparent.

So why, then, does a Republican administration actually want names, addresses, last 4 numbers of people's social security numbers to investigate voter fraud? It has been argued that voter fraud which has only 2 components: personal multiple voting, and mailed ballot fraud.

Sensationalist claims have circulated this election season about the extent of voter fraud, with some politicians going so far as to tell voters to fear that this November’s election will be “rigged.” Because electoral integrity is one of the elements necessary to making America the greatest democracy in the world, claims like this garner media attention, and frighten and concern voters.

The Brennan Center’s seminal report on this issue, The Truth About Voter Fraud, found that most reported incidents of voter fraud are actually traceable to other sources, such as clerical errors or bad data matching practices. The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.0003 percent and 0.0025 percent.Debunking the Voter Fraud Myth | Brennan Center for Justice

Yes, there have been cases of voter fraud, but the minuscule number of cases lends to the question: Why does a Republican administration appoint a committee to investigate voter fraud, when there have been so few cases that are documented?

One can speculate that there are other intentions, and in an atmosphere charged with actions that suggest voter suppression, and manipulation of voter opinion by targeted trolling by foreign nationals and governments, there should be a truly rock solid reason, backed by verifiable statistics, to assume that this voter commission is actually in America's best interest.

Worth repeating. Maybe I should put it in the library thread .... lol

Millions did the same for Obama...you probably supported Obama as fervently.

The debt is expanding exponentially...there is no good that will come from it.

Huh? Obama doubled it, he added almost $10 trillion. Obama added MORE debt than ALL the previous 43 before him. You liberals really don't have a grasp on reality.

The "fraud" in voting is that the ONLY two candidates we get to choose from...BOTH work for the "system". The two party political system. The government is OWNED by the rich and powerful. Government make people wealthy...and powerful....psychopaths/sociopaths thrive on it/in it.

It's all fixed and you can't change it.

Ronald Reagan: Added $1.86 trillion, a 186 percent increase from the $998 billion debt at the end of Carter's last budget, FY 1981.

George H.W. Bush: Added $1.554 trillion, a 54 percent increase from the $2.8 trillion debt at the end of Reagan's last budget, FY 1989.

Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 32 percent increase from the $4.4 trillion debt at the end of George H.W. Bush's last budget, FY 1993.

George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101 percent increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

Obama added $7.917 trillion, a 68 percent increase, in seven years. This was the fifth-largest increase percentage-wise.

But getting back to the theme of the thread.....Trump says states are ‘trying to hide’ things from his voter fraud commission. Here’s what they actually say. - The Washington Post

Wouldn't this be a more pertinent number to look at in evaluating the state of the nation economically under each President?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesgl.../#4a666b26600b

Just wondering, as I am no economist, but this seems to give a more telling picture.

Again, back to OP, it seems as if both parties have complained about voter fraud in one way or another over the past several presidential cycles. So what's the harm in looking into it?

In my opinion, there are already methodologies in place on a State by State basis to address voter fraud, the commission of a federal task force is out of bounds.

It's simply an attempted red herring, to divert the focus on the Russians helping Chump get elected.

And the fact that Trump is still seething that he lost the popular vote legitimately...and his ego just won't let it go.

He exhibits so many traits of the average temper tantrum prone two year old...it still boggles the mind that so many voted for (and still blindly support) him. :oops: