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Villagevip 08-01-2017 04:47 PM

Chitty chitty bang bang...
 
One cylinder, chug chug...Notice how overpriced these new golf cars are....Fred Flintstone engineering, in engine, suspension, frame, brakes....Now look, at other new ATVs of the same price.. Two or more cylinders, overhead cams, larger wheels tires , sophisticated suspension, disc brakes, on and on..

P.S. not on a budget,,Just dreaming.. Say if, Polaris made a golf course accepted cart..how advanced it would be to have a well oiled machine, to square hop!..This, to justify the $15K plus..:)

Wiotte 08-01-2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Villagevip (Post 1431137)
One cylinder, chug chug...Notice how over priced these golf cars are....Basic engineering in engine, suspension, frame, brakes.. Fred Flintstone...Now look at other ATVs of the same price, two or more cylinders, overhead cams, larger wheels tires , sophisticated suspension, disc brakes, on and on...Thinking this is a case of senior abuse...barf



Yep your right. Smart people buy used, those who buy new are the self abusers.


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graciegirl 08-01-2017 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Villagevip (Post 1431137)
One cylinder, chug chug...Notice how over priced these golf cars are....Basic engineering in engine, suspension, frame, brakes.. Fred Flintstone...Now look at other ATVs of the same price.. Two or more cylinders, overhead cams, larger wheels tires , sophisticated suspension, disc brakes, on and on...Thinking, this is a case of senior abuse...barf


yeah, yeah. yeah.

What did you buy?

Here is a picture of ours. We bought it used nine years ago.

We now have two but this one still gets around fine.

John_W 08-01-2017 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Villagevip (Post 1431137)
One cylinder, chug chug...Notice how over priced these golf cars are....Basic engineering in engine, suspension, frame, brakes.. Fred Flintstone...Now look at other ATVs of the same price.. Two or more cylinders, overhead cams, larger wheels tires , sophisticated suspension, disc brakes, on and on...Thinking, this is a case of senior abuse...barf

Since this being just your third post, comments like yours are a breath of fresh air. It's not many Villagers in their later years who can tote a bag of clubs and walk an 18 hole golf course anymore, everybody wants to drive a cart everywhere. That's the attitude, but just do me one favor, when I come up behind you in my cart I appreciate if I can just play through. Walkers do slow the game down, but we appreciate the effort.

dbussone 08-01-2017 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Villagevip (Post 1431137)
One cylinder, chug chug...Notice how over priced these golf cars are....Basic engineering in engine, suspension, frame, brakes.. Fred Flintstone...Now look at other ATVs of the same price.. Two or more cylinders, overhead cams, larger wheels tires , sophisticated suspension, disc brakes, on and on...Thinking, this is a case of senior abuse...barf



I agree, but are ATV's allowed on the golf courses? And will I need to take the hunting rifle holster off?


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dewilson58 08-01-2017 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Villagevip (Post 1431137)
One cylinder, chug chug...Notice how over priced these golf cars are....Basic engineering in engine, suspension, frame, brakes.. Fred Flintstone...Now look at other ATVs of the same price.. Two or more cylinders, overhead cams, larger wheels tires , sophisticated suspension, disc brakes, on and on...Thinking, this is a case of senior abuse...barf



What's your point???

jchase 08-01-2017 08:24 PM

Still looks new Gracie!

Topspinmo 08-01-2017 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1431202)
What's your point???

IMO Depending on where or what you buy, they are overpriced with Lawnmower engine in them. Profit margin got to be around 60% plus? New golf carts reminds me of New Boats. 50% lost after the first year use IMO of course. :popcorn:

I will admit my little yamahahopper runs like top I got for half price. :)

Wiotte 08-01-2017 10:49 PM

Chitty chitty bang bang...
 
We picked up a used 2015 fuel injected Yami 4 seater last July with all the bells and whistles. Original owner paid $15.8K with tax. I paid him 8K, no sales tax. DON'T BUY NEW. Deprecation is worse than anything on 4 wheels !


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dewilson58 08-02-2017 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiotte (Post 1431251)
We picked up a used 2015 fuel injected Yami 4 seater last July with all the bells and whistles. Original owner paid $15.8K with tax. I paid him 8K, no sales tax. DON'T BUY NEW. Deprecation is worse than anything on 4 wheels !


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Not worried about depreciation. Love the new smell.

photo1902 08-02-2017 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1431304)
Not worried about depreciation. Love the new smell.

Same here, as well as the warranty.

John_W 08-02-2017 01:17 PM

You can get a brand new 2018 Yamaha Drive 2 Quietech EFI Golf Cart for $7495 at Knight Rides in Alabama and free delivery to TV. Here's what you get;

http://www.knightrides.com/db/Carts/...6699062500.JPG

The 4 Seater is $7995;

http://www.knightrides.com/db/Carts/...6460781250.JPG

New Cart Sales | Knight Rides Yamaha Golf Cars and Carts

If you want to work with a dealer closer to TV, in Webster about 15 miles south of TV is I-4 Power Equipment. They advertise new 2017 Yamaha EFI Carts in stock for $2,000 less than TV.

2017 Gas Carts

After you have purchased a new Yamaha from I-4 or Knight Ride, you can have it delivered to Villages Discount Golf Cars on CR466 and for use in TV you'll want to add sideview and rearview mirrors, Sunbrella enclosure, floor mat, sand bottle if you play golf, and if you require, upgrade your seats. They advertise on their website these new cart upgrade packages. Then your cart will look like this;

Village Discount Golf Car

http://www.villagediscountgolfcar.co...3_1200x775.jpg

biker1 08-02-2017 03:45 PM

The level of technology is fine - it is a golf cart. You don't need more than one cylinder or overhead cams to get you around on the golf course or the MMPs at 20 mph. Overhead cams offer advantages at high RPMs - this is not really an issue with golf cart engines. They also are more complex and thus more costly than the simpler and proven overhead valve designs that are used in golf cart engines. The latest Yamahas have independent front and rear suspensions. I am not sure what additional level of sophistication you are looking for in the suspension. The one place where they could be improved would be brakes on all four wheels. My Yamaha has a wet disk brake on the rear wheels only. These things are rugged and bulletproof. If you really want something that has more whistles and bells, look at Atomic carts.


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Originally Posted by Villagevip (Post 1431137)
One cylinder, chug chug...Notice how over priced these new golf cars are....Basic engineering in engine, suspension, frame, brakes.. Fred Flintstone...Now look at other new ATVs of the same price.. Two or more cylinders, overhead cams, larger wheels tires , sophisticated suspension, disc brakes, on and on..

P.S. not on a budget,,Just dreaming, say if, Polaris made a golf course accepted cart..how advanced it would be, to justify the $15K plus..:)


ColdNoMore 08-02-2017 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Villagevip (Post 1431137)
One cylinder, chug chug...Notice how over priced these new golf cars are....Basic engineering in engine, suspension, frame, brakes.. Fred Flintstone...Now look at other new ATVs of the same price.. Two or more cylinders, overhead cams, larger wheels tires , sophisticated suspension, disc brakes, on and on..

P.S. not on a budget,,Just dreaming, say if, Polaris made a golf course accepted cart..how advanced it would be, to justify the $15K plus..:)

Based purely on the simplicity of the design, bolt on technology of long ago proved simple systems...golf carts should sell for about 1/2 of what they are getting.

It all boils down to the manufacturers knowing their demographics well and recognizing that they can get away with selling them...at such outrageous/gouging prices.

As long as the ignorant will continue to pay...the prices will stay grossly inflated. :shrug:

Bay Kid 08-03-2017 06:42 AM

My Yamaha is my CAR in TVs. Price is cheap for a car.

photo1902 08-03-2017 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1431717)
My Yamaha is my CAR in TVs. Price is cheap for a car.

Agreed. Some people just need to moan about everything.

dewilson58 08-03-2017 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1431761)
Agreed. Some people just need to moan about everything.

:bigbow:

graciegirl 09-16-2017 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Villagevip (Post 1431137)
One cylinder, chug chug...Notice how overpriced these new golf cars are....Fred Flintstone engineering, in engine, suspension, frame, brakes....Now look, at other new ATVs of the same price.. Two or more cylinders, overhead cams, larger wheels tires , sophisticated suspension, disc brakes, on and on..

P.S. not on a budget,,Just dreaming.. Say if, Polaris made a golf course accepted cart..how advanced it would be..This, to justify the $15K plus..:)

Oh I see.

Fredman 09-16-2017 08:40 PM

Be glad for those who buy new so you can buy used:wave:

Wiotte 09-16-2017 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1449171)
Be glad for those who buy new so you can buy used:wave:



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rubicon 09-17-2017 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1431717)
My Yamaha is my CAR in TVs. Price is cheap for a car.

Actually you can buy some new cars for the $15,000 or so you pay for a golf cart..just saying

TravelHungry 09-17-2017 11:19 AM

It's so true, costs are becoming to high for these golf carts.

Wiotte 09-17-2017 11:49 AM

Chitty chitty bang bang...
 
Buy used 1 or 2 years old if nearly new is desired. Save 40 % and NO sales tax ( registration not required so the state has no idea)
Many people get sucked into buying one and either want an upgrade or just feel they don't use it enough. Or, move out of TV etc.


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ajbrown 09-17-2017 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1431527)
The level of technology is fine - it is a golf cart. You don't need more than one cylinder or overhead cams to get you around on the golf course or the MMPs at 20 mph. Overhead cams offer advantages at high RPMs - this is not really an issue with golf cart engines. They also are more complex and thus more costly than the simpler and proven overhead valve designs that are used in golf cart engines. The latest Yamahas have independent front and rear suspensions. I am not sure what additional level of sophistication you are looking for in the suspension. The one place where they could be improved would be brakes on all four wheels. My Yamaha has a wet disk brake on the rear wheels only. These things are rugged and bulletproof. If you really want something that has more whistles and bells, look at Atomic carts.

Refreshing to read something that is based on logic... thank you

PS. buy electric :a20:

TechGC 09-17-2017 06:06 PM

What you need to remember is that the private owner market for a golf cart only represents 2% of the market for the manufacturers.
They like to sell 75 plus at a pop to golf courses. The Private market is growing and the manufacturers are seeing it. New stuff will be coming out directed to that market. Don't expect lower prices however.

Bosoxfan 09-17-2017 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiotte (Post 1431138)
Yep your right. Smart people buy used, those who buy new are the self abusers.


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Excuse me....Self abusers? Really? Where do you get off making such a statement. I prefer new with almost everything big I purchase. Houses, cars & yes golf cars.I don't need to inherit other people's problems. !!

Bosoxfan 09-17-2017 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiotte (Post 1431251)
We picked up a used 2015 fuel injected Yami 4 seater last July with all the bells and whistles. Original owner paid $15.8K with tax. I paid him 8K, no sales tax. DON'T BUY NEW. Deprecation is worse than anything on 4 wheels !


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What if one were to buy new with all the Bell's & whistles and never intend on selling it.

dbussone 09-17-2017 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1449484)
What if one were to buy new with all the Bell's & whistles and never intend on selling it.



There you go again, asking intelligent questions.


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Wiotte 09-17-2017 09:11 PM

Chitty chitty bang bang...
 
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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1449482)
Excuse me....Self abusers? Really? Where do you get off making such a statement. I prefer new with almost everything big I purchase. Houses, cars & yes golf cars.I don't need to inherit other people's problems. !!



I had to go back 2 weeks to see when I posted that. My post was in reply to what another poster said. In that context it isn't as bad as I thought. Sorry, nothing personal. I too only buy new on big purchases. I just can't justify paying 15K+ to buy a new golf cart. The depreciation is 40% the first year ! That's insane, if you're the new purchaser. For me, that would be self abuse.
BTW, go Yankees !!!
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Wiotte 09-17-2017 09:39 PM

Chitty chitty bang bang...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1449482)
Excuse me....Self abusers? Really? Where do you get off making such a statement. I prefer new with almost everything big I purchase. Houses, cars & yes golf cars.I don't need to inherit other people's problems. !!


$8K, 350 miles. Original invoice almost $16K. Isn't she a beaut !!

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coffeebean 09-25-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiotte (Post 1431251)
We picked up a used 2015 fuel injected Yami 4 seater last July with all the bells and whistles. Original owner paid $15.8K with tax. I paid him 8K, no sales tax. DON'T BUY NEW. Deprecation is worse than anything on 4 wheels !


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The bells and whistles that I wanted would wind up costing just about the same adding them to a used cart as the cart I purchased new, loaded as I wanted. My bells and whistles on my 2016 electric Yamaha include....

1) Steering wheel with self canceling directionals. This steering wheel also includes high beams for the head lights. That alone was worth the price of the upgraded steering wheel. Those brights light up the road and path like brights on an automobile. Of course, I kick down the brights when another cart approaches me in the opposite direction.

2) Upgraded bucket seats which a have a great lumbar support. I can take those big bumps in the road and not feel a thing and no jarring to my back. Wonderful firm comfortable support and with nice long arm rests.

3) Solid windshield. We don't play golf. We just play.

4) Locking trunk where the golf clubs would go. This is very valuable to me.

5) Auto water fill system for the batteries.

6) Shelf in the front of the cart.

7) Liquid lights on both front bumpers which were included by the dealer.

8) Roof painted the same color as the body of the cart.

9) 10" tires with upgraded wheels (they have a red emblem on them to match our red cart)

10) Some kind of system that maintains the top speed even when going up hill. (it works too)

manaboutown 09-25-2017 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1431304)
Not worried about depreciation. Love the new smell.

Recalling the Seinfeld episode where Jerry gets his car back smelling bad from the Valet I would opt for new or at least new seats, especially when carts are driven in hot and humid climates for lengthy periods of time, many by overweight drivers who wear out the support in the seats as well.


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